Anyone else have an extreme fear of not existing / death

24  2018-03-16 by LOSfan

I know this is the absolute worst place to ask for advice but even funny comments might help me at this point lol

Its always in the back of my mind but recently its been something I've been obsessing over to such an extreme level.

I only had maybe like two panic attacks in my entire life and randomly this week I've been having multiple a day

If there's anyone who has also experienced this or can talk about this I'm all ears cause its really messing with me

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Yeah, but I also got an extreme fear of existing / life. I'm gonna buy a blue tarp and a skull bandana and give my mom quite a start.

my word

Yeah, you'll all greatly miss my topical yuma.

The absence of life is like before you were born, you just have no conception of it. When you die, it’ll be the same thing – what’s there to fear? PS, You are a dumb faggot.

Yeah I logically understand that and can go on with my day but for some random reason recently it made me get these weird panic attacks

I just graduated college and so maybe that might be a factor

Probably, you’re leaving the part of your life where pussy is the easiest/best quality combo - really only downhill from here.

There is something about you that reminds me of fez. If he was so miserable in life than wouldn't death be a relief? But he was terrified of it. Never understood that

At least Fez has money and a hell of a mustache. This guy is going to get a job at a car wash and complain how it doesn't make sense working with those Mexicans outside because he has a college degree. At least enjoy sitting in the heat and air conditioning cashier man.

being left out is something to fear

I started having an existential crisis of some sort when I started reading into climate change shit. What helped me was to realize death is inevitable and therefore I should waste my time righteously on things that I enjoy.

Instead of being crippled by the eventuality of death try to turn it around into a liberating feeling. If it's going to happen it's going to happen no need to stress yourself out about it so you can't even enjoy the time you do have.

If the thing you enjoy is sucking your dad's dick, go for it champ!!

lol thank you so much

I know its gay coming here for advice but this is the only type of advice that I need right now its making me feel so much better

And I guess I'll suck my dad's dick now

Yes, you will.

We're all very helpful people, and also very gay.

leave me and my gayness out of this

I don't see how that's possible

If we're talking about dick sucking now. You could always use the Rogan program of kettle bells and dozens of unregulated brain pills to get you on track. Maybe a motivational video from a crazy navy seal?

https://youtu.be/IdTMDpizis8

Also, if you're a video game fag try out nier:automata. It'll provide a good distraction and it's themes of the human experience, philosophy, and existentialism will resonate with you more with how you're feeling now.

If not have fun sucking your dad's dick

I'll definitely try it out I had it downloaded but deleted it to make room for other games

The truck drivers on this sub have had a lot of time to ponder death and existentialism on the wide open roads of Nebraska

Over the road truckers are faggots. When you're a trucker who drives in conditions like THIS and spend every day trying not to die it starts to fuck with you. Now imagine you're up there and it starts to rain or snow and you've gotta try and get up or down. If you put up a fuss to the boss he'll replace you so you do it.

You mean again?

I started reading into climate change shit.

it was her turn. the orange man is going to start ww3.

I agree with this guy. Having the understanding we are all going to die (that YOU are going to die) is useful self-knowledge.

That being said, we can't logic ourselves out of brain chemistry imbalance. If you have the option at all, see a therapist. Asking for help here is a great start. Continue to do that with friends, family, anyone in your life you can trust. But medicine that can help with brain chemistry (if this is what's needed) can sometimes have positive effects that feel almost miraculous.

Spending time in nature is proven to help stop some of the cycling that occurs when we sit around worrying about the same thing(s). It sounds trite. But no joke, you might be amazed what adding a 10 minute walk everyday can do for one's mental health. I'd highly recommend doing it without headphones for best results, too.

The bottom line is that if there is something in our lives we want to change, it is within our power. I come here to laugh at a few former radio hosts and some dick jokes but I genuinely hope you find some ways to deal with this pattern that work for you.

Look at the big brain on u/stuntpeckah. Well said.

Anyone who wears headphones in public is asking to be sneaked up on and raped by a pack of wild niggers.

Do you usually have a lot of down time? If I'm busy with work, hobbies, and looking forward to things I don't have the mental space to give bad thoughts too much time. When I've been drinking and/or stop working out for a few days I get pretty negative as well.

Now that you mention it yeah I definitely have a lot of down time recently

I'll get back into the groove of my routines soon

Nah. Move to a port town and become a fishmonger. That's your only way out.

That's the grim reaper knocking at your door, just let him in.

nope.

I have an extreme fear of not seeing Rich Vos on the 24th at the Tree House Comedy Club

lol

There ish noshing to fear exshept a good time

Tree House? With Richard? Hmm....

Fort. It was a tree FORT! What's the difference? A fortification provides more protection from those who might seek to interrupt a good dicksucking.

I used to until I realized the alternative was spending eternity on a spinning ball with 7 billion insufferable cunts.

I'm Christian so I believe in the afterlife but think of it this way: Was it so bad the billions of years BEFORE you existed?

No but now I do exist and then its going to go away haha

Fair enough. Why do you exist?

FAG

First of all, you need to get some blood work done, because it could be a symptom of a real illness.

Depending of exactly what you're feeling, and calling a panic attack, this may or may not work for you. I know you're gonna call me a faggot, but you should try hot yoga. The reason is simple. A 90 minutes class is one of the hardest things you can do, mentally, and you're very physically tired afterwards. Even if you want to get depressed and stressed after class, you can't. It's no cure in itself, but it just takes away stress like nothing I've ever experienced. I do it every day and it's changing my life so much. I know I sound like JRE, but this is one of those almost magical things.

If nothing else, the class is also filled with half naked chicks.

Way to dodge the faggot remarks by talking about half naked chicks at the end. However, I'm on to you, pillow biter.

Hey, just because Anthony likes to be fucked in the ass, doesn't mean all of the sub does.

We don't?

Well, not all the time.

I always wanted to try yoga to see if I can get bendy enough to suck my own dick.

All about lower back flexibility. I'm sure you could do it eventually.

Good luck bro'

Anytime i get that feeling i just imagine myself stranded in the middle of an unfamiliar forest of blackness. Nothing acknowledges me. Every now and then I'll see the flicker of some headlights or hear the spinning of a helicopter, but I'm never found. Sometimes hikers are so close that i can almost touch them, but i can't touch them. They can't see me, they can't hear me, they can't feel me. For eternity I'm in that forest. Acknowledged by only me.

This seems to cheer me up. Good luck brothaman

Nice existential crisis, stupid

Nigga u gay

I pray daily for the sweet release of death

Let me help you with that.

If you opened your mind just a little bit and did some research in Eastern Religions and Astral Projection you'll realise that our physical universe isn't real and our conciousness does not end when we die.

Maaaaaaahn

Nice theory stupid

(I've tried astral projection but failed ofcourse)

I've experienced AP. You have to be real good at meditation first. You're a Dr. right? It will change the way you think if you accomplish it.

I'm open minded about it, I just don't have the ability to completely relax.

Ahh, yes that's a key component to it.

i hope you're right and your consciousness still exists after you die, but you go to hell for all eternity you stupid, annoying faggot

Looks like you tapped into the human imagination. ie the ability to make up bullshit.

I thought I was the only one on this sub into meditation and understanding consciousness. I AP'd one time before.

You didn't exist for an eternity before you were born. When you die it's gonna be just like that.

Why do you fear death? Just hope it's quick and you have your affairs in order. We're all on borrowed time anyway. Maybe you fear the finality of it, or how people will react etc. Don't, when you die you won't feel anything, like a clock out of battery you just stop. There is no darkness or light or any kind of afterthought. Just accept it now rather than waisting your time being scared.

Also it's pretty faggy to be that fear for you life that way

Of course. The way to deal with it is to try and not think about it.

nothing works here, I hate this place, I've been here for 7 years

yeah it's horrific

but this calmed me down:

i managed to not exist for all eternity before I was born, so obviously I can do it again.

Life is also mysterious as fuck when you look at it like that. Who's to say you didn't exist another being in another universe before this one? you died in that reality, but that's over now, and who gives a fuck?

i'm dumbing down the thoughts I have, but it's why I'm comfortably nihilistic.

I don't have anything that can help you (in fact this post might make it worse), but I do empathize. I don't obsess over it but it really scares the fuck out of me sometimes. The fact that time seems to go by quicker as you get older sometimes makes me feel like death is right around the corner, and even if I eliminate that thought, the fact that it's inevitable is terrifying.

People always talk about how we "just won't exist" like before we were born as if that's comforting, but to me that's almost more terrifying than some sort of eternal damnation, because at least that's something I can properly imagine.

You should get really high and think about it.

I don’t have an extreme fear of death but I would certainly prefer not to die.

If it’s any consolation you won’t actually “die”. Not totally, anyway. It will forever remain true that you existed, that you helped or hurt people, that you accomplished some things and failed others, and in this way you permanently scar the face of history.

Now that might help. To me it actually makes me more anxious - if life were truly meaningless then I might as well waste it away, but because it isn’t and you can’t undo the past there’s this constant pressure to live up to that meaning.

When I turned 26 I started thinking more about being older and dying. It usually only gets to me when I’m bored, not preoccupied, or like right before my head hits the pillow.

u/Bick_Bickerson comment?

Don't trigger me or i will end up in the nervous hospital.

We wouldn't want that now.

I don’t understand this sub sometimes

This sub doesn't mince words. A rare thing these days. If you ask a straight question, you'll get a straight answer without a lot of faggy bullshit.

This is a better place to go for mental health advice than half of the therapists practicing, because the therapists have to pretend that Bruce Jenner is normal to keep their licenses.

And having to repeat faggy left-wing bullshit to keep your job is the main cause of depression these days. If I were entering college and entering this job market, I'd be panicking, too.

OP, just trash your diploma and learn a trade. White men shouldn't want to work in offices anymore.

My first day on Reddit I post an honest question about comedy and podcasts and got called a faggot for a week. I never know which way it’ll go. 50/50 you’ll be called a faggot

My first day on Reddit I post an honest question about comedy and podcasts

Yeah, never do that.

I learned that pretty quickly

Ask Chris Kuhn Jr. how he's doing. Wonder if he had that fear? I'm Catholic though, and I don't really have a fear of death, go to a church would be my advice.

I am the immortal Count St Germain. So I don't fear that

Im not very religious but I think its silly to think that death is just eternal sleep. I truly believe that life does what its supposed to and something awaits us

I started having that shit out of nowhere last year. Thought I was having a heart attack (like Vos) at first because, even at 32 I had never had any symptoms of panic; ever.

Long story short, had a shut ton of heart tests done first because I went to a GP first. All fine. Went to a psychiatrist next for the first time ever. They listed off every symptom I experienced without me even telling them.

Gave me Lorazepam (cousin of Xanax). I keep one in my small jeans pocket, just in case. And I never had another symptom again. I've never even taken one. It's all mental. And having the emergency pill was what stopped them.

Good luck man.

Yep, I've known several people who had their first trip in an ambulance due to panic/anxiety. They were all over 30 and had never had a panic attack before. They all felt like they were going to die on the ride to the hospital. All of them have found relief in general. The reason why is because they continued to ask for help and work on the situation.

I was 100% sure I was going to die on the way to the ER. Both my arms were numb and curling into my body. It felt like someone was standing on my chest. I was doubled over and couldn't catch my breath. So I was hyperventilating and making it way worse.

What worried me later, was that I wasn't even stressed out. I was just driving home on a Saturday to go watch football. It started about 2 miles from my house and was in full effect when I got to the driveway.

Shit's crazy.

2 am I'm in a truck in the middle of nowhere hauling well water and this shit happened. No idea why or what it was. I thought it was too much coffee or something. Had the wife on the phone the whole way back to town driving to the hospital. About 5 minutes away I felt perfectly fine, turned around and went back to work.

You can't live in fear

Worse thing that can happen to you in life is you die, and we are all going to die

Don't sweat the inevitable

Live

During my late teens & early 20s I obsessed about the same thing and had horrible crippling anxiety over it which was exacerbated by self-medicating with alcohol and drugs.

I'm pretty sure it's just part of growing up and it definitely passed for me when I just figured out to accept it and try to enjoy life.

Alternatively it may be that we are both just monumental faggots who should skip to the dying part.

So you might be having this fear of death BECAUSE of the panic attacks. PAs have this impending sense of doom as one of their symptoms, and in response people can form maladaptive behaviors or thought processes IN RESPONSE to the attacks. Go see your doctor!

Sounds like a pre-existing mental health problem that just went acute. You need to get a real diagnosis, but something happened to you or your family as a child that could have made you completely dysfunctional.

But instead of suicide or incarceration, you managed a decent life until now. Now you're getting panic attacks about death, because the things that happened to you as a child left you susceptible to mental illness.

Question is, why now? Something happened. The death of a close family member is the typical trigger for an adult nervous breakdown.

Just make sure of one thing: Meds are to MANAGE your emotions, not hide from them. (Yes, Ant, talking to you.)

Did u have a fear of death before you were born? Death is the default normal state - being alive is the weird part with all the problems. imagine ur dead self looking back and going ‘I cant believe my faggot alive self spent all his time worrying about this’. What

Been trying to get my head around the newest thinking about multi-verses and the possibility that there are infinite universes...so, even without an afterlife you will experience consciousness again...and again...and again...eventually you'll find yourself fucking Stormy Daniels with your orange hair falling in her face (or something like that), so just relax and wait it out.

Are you on any meds?

I travel a ton for work, got in the habit of taking modafanil to avoid crashing my car when I'm sleep deprived, and noticed that it occasionally makes me feel "panicky."

Nothing too crazy, but I'm really mellow naturally and feeling "panicky" is completely foreign to me.

I just obsessed over death and dying that it became a professional research focus for me to the point it became bland to me.

I used to, but then I read what one of those faggots on /r/AskReddit wrote on the matter which pretty much said:

Look, if there is freak occurrence that regenerates your consciousness after death, even if it takes a trillion years, to you it'll happen instantly because time has no meaning when you die. You'll literally die and then wake up in whatever new form your consciousness has, instantly.

It actually relaxed me slightly.

Also, sometimes in the moment of death your brain "slows down" the perception of time and creates an alternate reality to comfort you (like in Jacob's Ladder, sans the demons). So in theory, while your body is dying, in your mind you are living a life where you've existed for 1,000 years and are rich and famous, or something.

Hell you could be dying right this instant, and all this that you're experience which you THINK is your life is an elaborate delusion your brain cooked up to comfort you until that last neuron burns out and you slip away into eternal nothingness.

Hope that helps. :)

Jacob's Ladder is still one of the best, most genuinely original horror/thriller type movies I've seen, the effects and visuals still look fucking great and have aged well even after almost 30 years.

I used tah until I realized when I'm sleeping is the time I'm most happy in life lolz... If death is as fun as napping, bring it on!

I just hope theres no gay ass afterlife, i dont wanna be no faggy angel playing with no gay ass pink puff clouds.. i dont play that gay heaven shit son!

Sounds like you just became a real adult with something to lose. Once that feeling of invincibility of youth wears off you start tip toeing more.

Every now and then I get pangs of existential dread. But then I remember existence is the weirdest thing in the world, and if you really break it down logically there would always have to have been "something" in order for life to arise. Thomas Aquinas made an argument for a creator years ago that still stands up today, not saying there is a bearded man watching everyone, but most likely a life bearing force that exists simply because it could. Possibly unaware of its existence (solipsism).

Probably doesn't help at all but I take solace in that, as well as everyone having the shared experience of death. Do whatever shit makes you happy and try to make things around you better and you'll be fine. As for where we go once we die, there's only one way to find out and I'll meet you there.

The answer is alcohol and drugs and lots of them.

Do you find the air seems to take on a weird consistency when these panic attacks come, almost like you could touch it and rub it in between your fingers? That and an unbearable intensity/weight bearing down and fixation on a single thought or concept until it feels mentally deafening always came with panic attacks for me, just wondering if its the same for anyone else. It sucks cause you feel like you're insane and will be stuck that way forever.

all is one and one is all. youll always take on some form of energy because the universe is all a varying wavelength of energy, even if you die you won't stop existing and that to me is the hardest part to swallow, that it is never over

Fuc no cuz i just rok. Liv fast dye yung FAWK YA

r/Existentialism, r/Philosophy...two of many good subs where you can get more supportive, rational and relevant feedback for these kind of questions.

I've been in and out of that same sort of rabbit hole since I was fucking 15 years old, so I get it. I feel like I've said this before to people on reddit but a book that really helped me with these kinds of questions was The Myth of Sisyphus by Albert Camus. You should check it out but just to boil it down to the bare essentials the author's point is that human beings in general are fucked because we:

A. Naturally desire a sense of purpose and meaning to life at the core of our being, and B. Inhabit a universe that does not provide any, so we all have to make the whole fucking thing up as we go along.

This is a universal truth. There is no higher power, order or authority, at least not that we can have any meaningful contact with, and all of our religions, value systems, morals, laws, social customs, whatever, is just shit that different people in different places at different times have cooked up...no collection of thoughts on these matters is any more legitimate than the next.

That sounds daunting, and it is, but the writer goes on to say that we basically have three courses of action in responding to this reality:

  1. Commit suicide. Ultimately destructive decision because life and consciousness and the human vessel that we inhabit is all we can really be sure that we have in the first place. It's not a perfect world, but it is the ONLY one we have.

  2. "Philosophical suicide," or copping out to someone else's code of thought, such as religion, society, whatever. Relying on ideas that are not your own and that you know in your heart are illegitimate for philosophical comfort.

  3. "Revolt." This is what the author deems the ideal option. To basically tell the universe to fuck itself, to continue living in defiance of the meaninglessness and create one's own meaning with the life that they have, which again, we DO have- being present on this planet is a thing that we are definitely experiencing even though we were thrust into it without any input from us, and we cannot transcend this realm.

It sounds cliche, but the idea is yeah, things are confusing and nobody necessarily knows what's right, but that's okay, because you are free to decide for yourself.

It's a motherfucker, because thinking like this can make you want to curl up in the fetal position and die if you interpret it that way, but after feeling like that for years, I'm starting to see it as a more empowering thing. None of the shit that happens on this fucking planet really matters at all, so it's not worth worrying about. Best to live as honest of a life as possible

As for death...hate to break it to you man, but it's inevitable and its coming eventually anyway. Again, can be a scary thought or a comforting one in some ways- at least I found it comforting at one point in my life when I was seriously contemplating suicide, but kind of came to the realization that oh well, I'm going to die at some point no matter what, so fuck it, I might as well hang out and see if I can make something better happen before then. I did and it hasn't been perfect but it's been worth it.

Talk to people, even if it's just on the internet, who think about this kind of stuff. I'm sure you've already probably tried to start conversations with the average joes of the world who just want to talk about beer and football and have no idea what the fuck you're getting at, and it can be painful to have such overwhelming thoughts and have no one comprehend them.

Hang in there though buddy, life can actually be okay if you make it that way, which you have the power to do. Try to work on not sweating the shit that you have no control over.

Can't believe I typed that into the fucking O&A sub, but hey, what do I know.

Thank you so much for typing all that out

Tbh it still bothers the fuck out of me so damn much its been days and i revisited this post and i still feel awful

But thank you so much for letting me know all that im just reading more and thinking and idk haha its just so much

Just FYI, if you go into a depression spiral, I would try (in this particular order, if each preceding thing doesn't do the trick):

  1. Making a point of doing things you like more often and engaging in more self-care.

  2. Doing therapy, a support group, or finding an emotional outlet of some sort.

  3. Talking with a psychiatrist about medication. (I was very resistant to this for years but it's not worth spending what little you have of life stiflingly depressed if there doesn't seem to be an immediate, identifiable cause for it. Just something to think about if other stuff fails.)

It's time to take it to the extreme maaaan

Probably, you’re leaving the part of your life where pussy is the easiest/best quality combo - really only downhill from here.

Maaaaaaahn

Nice theory stupid

(I've tried astral projection but failed ofcourse)

i hope you're right and your consciousness still exists after you die, but you go to hell for all eternity you stupid, annoying faggot

Looks like you tapped into the human imagination. ie the ability to make up bullshit.

There is something about you that reminds me of fez. If he was so miserable in life than wouldn't death be a relief? But he was terrified of it. Never understood that

At least Fez has money and a hell of a mustache. This guy is going to get a job at a car wash and complain how it doesn't make sense working with those Mexicans outside because he has a college degree. At least enjoy sitting in the heat and air conditioning cashier man.

I thought I was the only one on this sub into meditation and understanding consciousness. I AP'd one time before.