Comedy is actually fucking dead this time.

38  2017-06-15 by [deleted]

What's left for a comedian? A cute little podcast? Being one of 52 standups (who get paid barista wages) on a Netflix billboard for three days until you're cycled out for the next one, never to be seen again? Getting paid 900 bucks a month to teach classes at Amy Poehler's for-profit comedy colleges that encourages everyone to make the same exact bits and jokes? Having a shitty bar show where you perform for other comedians because real people don't go out to see standup anymore? Playing empty casino and cruise ship auditoriums for a few hundred bucks a pop? A show on the now-defunct Seeso?

The dream is dead. You will never have a sitcom unless the corporations need an agenda pushed and you fit the identity, and that will likely get cancelled in five seconds as network TV sitcoms are also a dying model. You will never star in movies as the comic relief as comedians are no longer cast in movies, with the exception of if you're already a trust fund baby like TJ Miller, who is already burning himself out.

You will never buy a house in the comedy business. The clubs have no money. Going on the road gets you pennies compared to what it was in the 80s and 90s. Plenty of hobbyists are happy to pay their own money to perform. You get zero labor protections. No health insurance. No union. You're on your own, prick.

It's a dead industry. A dead business model. A dead artform with no future.

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Does anybody remember laughter?

I 'member.

member Sam Kinison

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o&a ruins comedy. for you

Hasn't it been this way since the 80s? Hasn't the running gag between comedians for years been that they're all basically homeless unless they get a big break?

No. 90s had a massive fuck you money boom and then early 2000s did too. And even road dogs like Attell could make good livings for themselves without suckling on Hollywood teat.

independent comedy died when school-to-theater pipelines started becoming the "official" way to break in.

Every comedian in the 90s was tripping over sitcom deals.

Hey, at least have Opie's afternoon show, without that, we really would have nothing

Calm down faggot

I can't wait until Liza Treygar is serving me soup in a bread bowl and I buy my weed from Zac Amico.

Is this Matarese?

no its joe derosa

no its geno biscont

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That didn't happen.

Pretty much any entertainment medium not born alongside the internet is "dying." With the internet, though, people no longer have to rely on Jew media heads to recognize them. Comics could theoretically upload their set at some shitty open-mic to YouTube and monetize the content. If they're funny, they'll make a living wage. No censors to worry about on the internet either. The future isn't all doom and gloom for TV/radio/live shows, but we're in a weird transitional period now.

No censors to worry about on the internet either.

Buzzfeed, Gawker, Vox, Huffpo, Dailybeast, etc beg to differ

The workaround is selling magic health potions to retards. No need to cowtow to sponsors.

maaaaaan

They can't take you down, only cry and shit their pants about it.

tell that to Anthony Cumia, or Sam Hyde, or Colin Quinn

YouTube monetization is also going down the shitter. The site is trying to rebrand; it only wants PC content in both the liberal and conservative sense of the word.

PCs, you mean like computas or somethin?

It sounds like someone bombed their first open mic. Keep going up, big fella.

By "up" you mean on a noose in the rafters, right?

You actually thought being in comedy was a viable career option??

I remember on that dumb Roast Battle (yes I'm a fag and watched the whole season), that blonde Aryan looking guy was killing the whole season. I don't remember his name, but I have seen his face all over the place. He does late night shows and shit all the time. He probably works the road nonstop. When he made it to the finale of the show, they did an quick biography on him. He lives in a shitty on bedroom apartment and sleeps in a twin bed a couple feet away from 2 other struggling wannabe stand-ups. And he is actually pretty funny, and good looking. That was really a wake up call.

Found Stevie Lew's reddit name

Did you see him attack East Side Dave the other day?

I think there has been a shift in the comedy industry. Standup and old media sitcoms are well and truly dead and what you have instead is the criminally unfunny social media comics. These include YouTube and Instagram comics that cater to kids and teens with literally 5 second attention spans. Look at the constant jump cuts in a YouTube video: these cunts don't even allow for a one second pause between delivering lines because they'll lose the attention of their retarded viewers. There is no such thing as a well crafted storyline because that would involve subtlety and a masterful delivery that involves pauses and dynamic execution. Or have a look at Instagram comedy videos that literally have no punchline. The most popular "comedy" Instagram videos are 20 second clips of a slut showing her ass and tits with the addition of a horrible attempt at comedy. No one is even trying anymore, people are just uploading soft core porn under the guise of comedy.

Comedy has now regressed so far back that the Jews are only using standup or sitcoms to promote their agendas. They no longer even care about making shekels from it. The shekels are now being made from the ad revenue of these social media dickheads.

Yes but how are the jews making money with social media? Or is it just one mega jew?

My mudda always said "the Jew will get his chippah"

The Saudis own Twitter, not the Jews.

yeah a cute little 6 figure podcast

Marc Maron advised comics to expand their skill sets and try to get into writing. That is probably the most solid gig funny people could get. However it would require decent talent and hardwork and also likely a degree and connections.

(((((((((connections))))))))))))))))

Mainly just connections. Degrees for anything art related is worth as much as the paper it was printed on.

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dont worry tho bryan callen is making it!

It's not a dying business. Just like all other forms of entertainment, it's becoming heavily diluted because of the many different ways people are consuming media these days.

It's no the 50's anymore. We have a million different ways to watch. The days of an entire nation sitting down to watch I Love Lucy at the same time are over.

People have the ability to seek out entertainment that suits them, and connect with a community that has the same taste.

Example: This stupid fucking subreddit.

"You get zero labor protections. No health insurance. No union."

Fuck off, commie scum!

Kurt, Kurt,is that you're old friend.

These guys are making huge money on these Netflix specials more than they ever made in the past. As far as making it as a standup today, I think it would be easier to get recognized for your comedy, if you're actually funny, with the internet & social media.

most of em are making 50k at the highest. with no residuals.

Every entertainment field is like that. People don't get into any kind of high-level devotion for some form of artistic expression for the money, though. It's like saying you're getting into a sport for the promising financial opportunities it presents. Like tearing your ACL just isn't gonna happen, and if it does, whatever, it won't affect you at all. If you're looking for a stable future with safe, secure money-making opportunities, getting a dead-end job and going to college to secure a higher-paying dead-end job while figuring out a 10-year plan to pay off your student loans and following that up with a savings plan for your 401k is the way to go. Much like every form of art, though, people are always gonna wanna read a book, or watch a movie, or lose themselves in a picture somebody made, or let their emotions go to some music, or consistently laugh for anywhere from 11 minutes to 2 1/2 hours-plus, and people who devote themselves to those things will be able to do fill that void better than regular people who can kind of draw or write or are fairly funny can. And where there's a demand, there's a way to make money off it. The actual details of that are just getting trickier to work out nowadays, and things can really feel hopeless when they're tricky. But anyone who's done it will tell you that it feels way better to take the risk and fill that drive they have than it does to bury it, despite the financial setbacks it may present.

You couldn't at least write peckahs at the end?

Stand Up Comedy isn't art it's a public display of your mental illness.

lose themselves in a picture somebody made, or let their emotions go to some music

No girls allowed, plz leave

Kevin Hart disagrees. Maybe the industry isn't dead but just your outlook about it dead. You're going by a model that hasn't existed for over 20 years; play clubs, get big break on Carson, do a comdey album, have huge HBO special, get millions of dollars in a holding deal for some unfunny network cheesy sitcom, play yourself in one small movie role after another as comic relief. Dude it's 2017 not 1995.

O&A was really good at teaching it's audience how to deconstruct humor and identify what is awful. The rest of the world is really happy with morning zoo radio, sitcoms, and Ben Stiller movies.

If your podcast is unique and good enough to get a niche but significant following you could have a patreon thing setup and generate a decrn source of income. I'm thinking Cumtown as a prime example - Nick Mullen is apparently aware of how dead comedy is and is using the revenue stream,which may not last forever, to invest for his future.

I don't listen to it but I think its similar in its anti industry bridge burning sentiment to Misery Loves Company podcast with Kevin Brennan which also has a niche following. He too rants about how hopeless comedy is and how there is no money in it for just good comedians.

He should have done a patreon two podcast a week thing like Cumtown instead of begging for donations and doing a show on Compound Media.

I told kev this when he quit riotcast. He didnt listen

Neal is so rich just borrow money from him.

Plenty of hobbyists are happy to pay their own money to perform. You get zero labor protections. No health insurance. No union. You're on your own, prick.

fuck them. Those stand-ups laughed at everyone else when immigrants came for their jobs, now look who is obsolete.

Stanhope was just whining on a podcast recently about this, his younger friends can't do well in standup anymore because their jobs get taken away from them by hacks with more followers on social media.

Stanhope used to mock people because they would whine about immigrants taking their job, now that the shoes on the other foot, he actually cares about this shit.

fuck em

It comes in waves. the market is over saturated.

You truly are a student of comedy.

Try being good

Wellllll who could compete against such titans as aziz ansari and "Kumail Nanjiani"

Lies. Compound Media is a totally viable option for budding young comics

You can literally make your own content at home and upload it to YouTube.

I 'member.

o&a ruins comedy. for you

I told kev this when he quit riotcast. He didnt listen