At this point it's our own fault...

13  2019-04-30 by MonsignorScurrility

Multiple solutions have been proposed.

Want to post images and offensive content without restriction? Somebody set up an 8chan. Download Clover or a similar app and go. Oh no! The format sucks and 8chan is a shitty site!

Want to stick with the reddit formula and keep upvotes and the layout and all that? Somebody set up a Voat. Oh no! Voat is slow, full of edgelords and scumbags and sucks in general!

Let's just go to Scorch, because nobody will find us there the first time somebody /u/ calls Patrick or his crippled photographer in to make fun of them. Except the admins will be onto it and the sub will last a week instead of 3 weeks or whatever. Then we'll go to opieradio. DMCAs. Down in a week. OnA. Gregntony.

Etc etc. Until the 5k here whittled down to the last 300 still making fun of Fatrick for being a cuck, Joe for being a cum gobbling Big Apple Ranch member and calling Logan a sex predator.

Pickiness and an affinity for this shitty site full of whiny faggots is going to be what kills it.

Should either move our stupid asses off of reddit or stop posting "I think it all went wrong when we..." and "It's been fun lol mom's box" and go buy Will Tates Starship Repo books and shut up.

Also, Patrick Tomlinson had his pregnant wife leave him. No matter what happens, we can always look up on a sunny day and smile knowing that.

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There seems to be very little we can do if Reddit simply counts complaints instead of actually evaluating them. All Patso has to do is what he does best: lie and cry.

There are subs where people would fight DMCA abuse, because they don't mind putting their real name on the line for the fight.

This isn't one of them.

"And how do you explain the 49,564 instances per month of the word 'nigger?'"

"I, uh, give up, your honor."

haha holee shit ( one pound on desk, one finger up a 6th graders skirt)

My shift manager at Panera isn't going to buy "I need to go defend myself in court because a fat science fiction author from Milwaukee keeps filing false legal claims against me. What are the posts about? Well...." as an excuse to take a day off. Jose isn't trained on soups yet and the recent cold snap has people lined up.

There's plenty we can do about it, we stop posting pics that he can file claims on, I'm not sure why everyone acts like that's not a viable option. u/MonsignorScurrility, u/Mintwa, you guy both had takedowns, right? Any that weren't caps of his Instagram pics?

So hey, I'm on board. I'd prefer if we brought back the images and took a hard stance on content that is DMCA sensitive. But it's a tough call and definitely bringing in a more mod heavy element.

a more mod heavy element

And there lies the problem. The place will have a meltdown if that mod box stretches past a full two inches, which it's already skirting the edge of.

Adding automod elements isn't going to help either. If we were linking directly to Instagram it would be easy. The problem is folks posting images thereof, which I've always done to avoid being accused of harrasment or brigading people's social media.

So basically, we need enough of a modding presence that every image is seen and if needed deleted before Fatrick can DMCA it.

But then there's still the issue of these faggots just flat out fraudulently DMCA flagging posts because nobody is going to fight it. Nothing much to do about that that I can see as long as Reddit just auto-fulfills DMCA takedown.

flat out fraudulently DMCA flagging posts because nobody is going to fight it.

Well, that's why I asked if you had anything removed that wasn't a pic. Fatrick is a blowhard, the idea of someone actually coming forward and calling bullshit on him in a way that could legitimately have consequences isn't lost on him, in a sub of 5k people, there's always a chance someone here would step up just to fuck him, not everyone here prizes their anonymity. I honestly think he's too chickenshit to risk it, I suspect he's only filing legitimate takedown requests.

It might need a day or so longer to really sink in but what do I know?

Realized I didn't answer you. I do think any takedowns I had originated either on his or Thin Lizzy's social media.

I received a takedown for a screencap of that hog's website of all things.

Well, and her website isn't social media, it's her property, so that makes sense.

I honestly don't think these fucking squares have it in them to be shady, they're too afraid of consequences, and false DMCA definitely have those. I'm sure whoever advised Fatty that this was his best recourse to get rid of the sub also cautioned him to only file takedowns that he could absolutely prove were his. I think as long as we stick to only parody posts and no pictures lifted from their accounts, we're free to stick around. I'd rather that anyways, taking Fatty's last shot at anything resembling a win away will throw him into a meltdown.

One was a picture from Google images of his standup and the other was just a screencap of his dumb blog. Also got one for a screen of Liz website.

Yeah, the blog and the website are legit. I looked into it, screencaps of them are DMCA protected. The stand-up one he probably filmed himself for his YouTube channel, so that's likely legit to. Only question is, are they only filing takedowns for legitimate claims, or are they filing claims for everything and reddit is only removing the ones that seem legitimate?

Hey I’m open to possibilities. If going to a shitty 8chan is what it’ll take to maintain our cruel little hobby, fuck Reddit.

I'd go to the 8chan as well. I've supported the idea of a voat but if I recall they aren't the DMCA-free wild west everybody on Reddit seems to think they are.

I'd still try it if that what people wanted and everybody went there. Not gonna get pinched on harrasment or hurt feelies posts there at least and it's a familiar format.

There will be stubborn faggots who claim “the new place sucks” no matter what we do. But I don’t care about trimming the fat as long as the truly good eggs come along.

I get having a backup plan, but I think jumping ship preemptively is just going to shed even more users. We should stick to this until we don't have a choice.

trimming some of the fat

Well, the problem with that is what Monsignor posted about in the first place. Everybody is already leaning in 9 different directions. Just because the last mass exodus worked out doesn't mean the next will, everyone might scatter next time.

You’re right. But remember that after the SpaceEdge drama, three or four subs were being used at first. Since this one had the mass majority, everyone just migrated here. I know there’s a difference between different subreddits and different websites, but the hope is that most of us end up at the place the majority has chosen.

Well, after it happening again so quickly, I suspect a lot of guys will just say fuck it on move on. I gotta say, I'm not moving every two months myself. We either have to make this place is livable or make sure the next one for sure is, because this bouncing around shit is going to be what kills it.

Too bad the chapo sub has so many moderators. We could have infiltrated it and used it as a sacrificial lamb. Maybe we still can i dk

Hahaha that’d be glorious.

Maybe Joe Cumia will do something silly again so we can beat that into the ground and move on from this alleged author

The answer is probably to just stop talking about Patrick here. He's funny to mock to some degree but it has taken the sub over completely. It's understandable. The sub is like a hornets nest or an anthill. There is no plan; it's just a swarm. However, the attack on Patrick has been so intense and constant-and he's such an enormous cry baby-that the profile of the sub has been raised enough that the admins have taken notice.

Personally, I think all of the humor than could be extracted from making fun of Patrick has been. It's just repeating the same few themes about him being a pedophile/shitty with a micropenis/cuckhold. Repetition is fine but it isn't worth beating the same jokes into the ground when fatty is going to get the sub shut down. At this point I think people are only doing it because pat is trying to get the sub shut down and they want to defy him. If people really want to continue fucking with him, they should move it to a more private location like discord where you can do gay ops.

Yeah I agree. People thinking this would be a win for Patso are thinking about it all wrong.

He’s had his prized twitter taken from him, his facebook multiple times, and his instagram which he bitterly and desperately protects with DMCA takedown requests is a dead zone.

All of the delusions he clings onto to escape his reality as a fatbodied alcoholic insurance salesman have been exposed as frauds. This ‘tough guy’ is actually a lumpy sissy with jowls and bitch tits. This ´political firebrand’ is actually a thin-skinned coward who blocks people who disagree with him. This ‘writer’ writes horribly generic and boring scifi and obnoxiously shoehorns his shitty politics into it, that’s not even mentioning the craft of his writing which is dogshit too. This ‘comedian’ can’t get any more than pity laughs at open mic nights. This ‘antifascist’ is constantly promoting very fascist ideals about free speech and public discourse. This ‘feminist’ defends the physical assault of a woman because she has different political beliefs than he does.

Think of what Fatrick’s life must be like for things to have reached this point. He spends his days annoying strangers in a shitty bar while cosplaying as a writer. But in reality he’s spending staggering amounts of time trying to fight this sub. Don’t you see, fellas? We’ve already won.

Think of what Fatrick’s life must be like for things to have reached this point. He spends his days annoying strangers in a shitty bar while cosplaying as a writer. But in reality he’s spending staggering amounts of time trying to fight this sub. Don’t you see, fellas? We’ve already won.

I kind of agree. At this point, it's actually helping him to a degree. He can claim victimhood. You know his stupid lecture at that con is going to be a tale of how he managed to persevere despite all the "incels" and "Nazis" doing everything they can to degrade him, blah blah blah.

You guys won. He has a book coming out in 3 weeks. His multiple twitter accounts are gone. His facebook has been locked for 20 days. His instagram has like 300 followers. He's got no way to promote the book.

If you still want to fuck with him, let him be. His Facebook will get unbanned, but he won't be able to contain himself for long and he'll start posting self-righteous rants again and there will be another "I'll punch a woman wearing a Maga hat" and you guys can get him perma-banned from Facebook and maybe Insta. His wife can't watch all his socials forever.

Although whoever is fucking with him by making physical Fatrick drawings in Milwaukee that he'll be forced to see is doing Gods work and can continue. That shit is funny.

I heard a lot of people from POLand use 8chan .

I don't have the same disdain for the chan board format as a lot of people around here. Put that shit in catalog mode and it's pretty easy to navigate. But I get it. It's definitely an uglier, less functional and harder to use board type.

I also get that there's a different crowd there, like poltards, etc. but as with Voat and any other site, I can't see anybody really shitting in our sandbox like here.

I'd go to 8chan if it came to it. I'd prefer that over Voat, realistically, because I feel like of all the available options, the least likely to respond to DMCA or censor would be that shithole.

I think chan might even be better for this type of stuff . The only thing that worries me is the gay image posting , i can imagine it getting taken to an extreme level over there .