Ask Jim Norton

You don’t think drinking a 6 pack of Pabst makes you an alcoholic?

Drinking a six pack of Pabst and then crying about some dumb shit/playing Black Sabbath. Get it right, shithead.

I get dark, man

I did. Went cold turkey and that was a big fucking mistake. Seized up in about 18-24 hours. Drank multiple pints of vodka daily, mixing with Xanax for years. First six months were fucking awful. After that, it’s easy to not drink. Like, literally you don’t just drink. Pretty simple. Do I miss it? Yeah, sometimes, but I feel a lot better mentally (anxiety would always be amped up during the days) and obviously physically. If you want to try quoting, talk to your doctor so he can prescribe you some medication so you don’t fucking have a seizure.

Get off work, grab a bottle on the way home (wasn’t driving, commuting), drink at home, pass out, wake up and eat Xanax to kill the hangover, go to work, repeat.

Tapering never worked for me. Didn’t have the will power to drink less alcohol. I remember once actively trying to quit and taking a medication that calmed down the desire to drink, as well as turn off the ‘reward mechanism’ inside the brain when drinking. That did seem to work, but I ditched the pills after a week.

Today, the taste of liquor feels uneasy and makes me cringe, but for some reason I’ll get a taste for beer. That’s weird, because I wasn’t a beer drinker back in my black out days.

I quit just by actively saying ‘I’m done.’ 15% of people suffer a seizure during withdrawal. I’m sure if I would’ve saw my doctor before my decision to quit, he would have informed me I was prone to a seizure based on my medical history (OCD, anxiety, abusing benzos) and would’ve given me medication to prevent one. I’d just talk to your doctor, and he’ll inform you on what to do. Also, lol seizures aren’t fun, but you aren’t going to die. I was afraid of getting it, like you, because I fucking googled the shit out of “alcohol withdrawal” before I quit. Fucking google, but being afraid of seizing so you don’t quit isn’t any better.

The drug he was talking about is Naltrexone, I have it. You can literally feel a switch being flipped in your head when you take it if you're drunk already, most people who are alcoholics have a different psychological reaction to it that feels more like cocaine, that was my experience anyway. The drug shuts that off so you just feel wobbly and tired which is less fun.

Yep. That’s it.

You're a rookie if you're not daydrinking.

Seriously, OP is a pussy

Xanax was the hardest drug I’ve ever had to get off, it took half a year to sorta feel mentally stable

Xanax Dessabesso, just chillin and relaxin

Yeah, it was the hardest drug I had to give up, as well.

Xanax was the best thing in the world, I loved it more than anything. Was eating so many bars a day, it’s almost embarrassing that I wanna such an addict. I don’t remember 2-3 years of my life.

The physical withdrawal took me about a month, it was awful. Locked myself in my sisters basement didn’t leave, sleep, or eat. The mental withdrawal is probably still ongoing.

Boo boo

Chill take a Xanax homeboy

I had a Xanax issue too man don’t be insensitive like that.

My dead aunt just bequeathed me about a thousand Xanax. I don’t like it. Want some?

I'll take them.

Whoa. You mean it?! I know I said I'd never call you "father", but I'm proud to call you "dad." Nigger

Yea

I've never had xanax, I hate and have never done pills. But my buddies are huge xanax and booze guys and dude they don't remember conversations that they tell me when they're sober, let alone on xanax and booze. Is it that bad of a mind eraser like my buddies make it out to be?

Yeah it is. It’s like the Nueralyzer in MIB

I was a RAGING heroin addict (way worse than Faggot SpaceEdge) for over 10 years. After I stopped heroin I started shooting RC benzos for a while (99.99% of people dont even know you CAN shoot benzos as theyre not water soluable). and your friends are 100% NOT exaggerating. I thought I was sober the whole time when i was in the moment, turns out i dont remember months and months at a time. Like i was asleep for 8/9 months. Its incredibly scary looking back. Im so thankful i didn’t kill/hurt anyone driving around like an asshole. Its exactly like waking up from an alcohol blackout. But the whole time, i would swear up and down that i was sober. (Thought i was). Its called “delusions of sobriety”.

When I grew up we used to keep our Percept in fawkin concrete bags

I’ve been high for 2 years, replaced everything with weed, which isn’t much better. Quit about everything else beside the occasional offer from a friend. What got me to stop drinking was terrible IBS.

I spend all day miserable if I don’t smoke until night. Like put my own head through a wall levels of headache. Pretty pathetic of me, at least alcoholics have a real excuse, shit is a pretty hard drug as far as things go. If I were you I wouldn’t try to replace alcohol with anything and try to fill my time with something relatively productive. Right now I’m in the same boat as you but a lot lamer.

This guy is right about distracting yourself.

P.S.- I do however hope that Anthony drinks himself to death.

P.S.- I do however hope that Anthony drinks himself to death.

Your lips, Allah's ears and all that.

Good idea. If you start to feel physically awful get yourself some help. Good luck and feel better man

The more breaks from weed you take the less you get those shitty feelings when you aren’t high. There’s no real withdrawals so it’s all in your head, plus you’ll get ripped like the good old times if you take a couple weeks to a month off. Problem is not smoking everyday when it’s around, it’s such a nothing drug you can do it but it’s just a waste of time and money if you’re not getting high.

As gay as it sounds, what helped me cut back and quit mostly was video games. Like I just bought RDR2 and it's easy to play that for hours and take your mind off it.

Man, I barely play video games anymore since they seem to bore me unless I'm fucked up. It's weird because as a kid I would play nonstop and obviously I was sober because I'm not a real alcoholic like Norton.

That's why I go for story-heavy single player games rather than multiplayer or random fun games where you can be drunk and high. That's why I like RDR2, it's so story and character heavy and so detail oriented you need to be soberly autistic to do it.

I burnt myself out playing Halo as a teenager so I just feel done.

This is what I do too. Also works for food addiction for you fat fucks out there. It’s just something to look forward to after work instead of getting fucked up.

Yeah having some sort of routine helps and stacking your day with shit to do. The thing is, if you are drunk every single day you forget what it is like to be sober. So you gotta get it down to a couple times a week so you can feel the night/day comparison. I kept drilling into my head how terrible hangovers are and how they fuck up all of my routines. As you get older you start to think "I wasted an entire day this week being hungover." An entire day just gone, where you could be doing something better. That's 52 days a year of just not even being drunk, just a lazy fag.

But playing video games is no less a waste of time than being drunk/hungover.

It's just to get you past the initial 3 weeks, if you can get past 3 weeks you will be off the chemical dependency and a good chunk of the psychological one. Should have clarified that. It's a great way to break up the drinking routine.

get gud noob.

Ya gotta mix the weed with some light benzos

You've probably been smoking Sativa, Indica shouldn't make you paranoid, it's all body.

/r/hempflowers or some shitnit. Weed with the thc bred out

High CBD strain with very low THC might suit you perfect

Weed is leaps and bounds better than drinking every night. You're nuts. Smoke erry day. You're 100x better off.

work?

So stop being a fucking faggot.

This sub goes on all day about faggot this and faggot that. GAY.

Nigga, YOU gay. A little weed gets you all out of sorts? And you post here? Faggot bitch.

Sounds alpha AF! Just like the rest of posters here.

GAY.

If you get panic attacks/paranoia, avoid certain strains like indica (more of a mental high) and try sativa instead ("body high").

You might want to try edibles without high THC content instead.

Jesus fuck man. Pull yourself together.

Dude, I give CBD treats to my geriatric cat. You're fine.

You got that reversed, indica is body high and sativa is head high. Generally sativas make you more head high/heady and if you're prone to becoming paranoid sativas are worse than indicas. Indicas generally make people lazier and "couched locked" whereas sativas are more social and people usually go out and do stuff on sativas, and the high is more background noise.

I've consumed, well, a lot in the past 8 years, when my tolerance is low sativas really make me paranoid, but once my tolerance is where I want it I only go for sativas.

I think you have the sativa/indica body/mental thing backwards.

Indacouch, easiest way to remember it.

Smoking weed every day makes me want to drink every day. I wake up hungover as hell then smoke and feel great and can eat something. Developed a tolerance for the weed and the booze will boost the high so now the weed and booze goes hand in hand. Smoke every day and drink every night. On days off it’s wake and bake right into the vodka.

I smoked for 18 years from age 13 - 31 and had to quit overnight because I got in a fight with my faggot weed guy for calling him a mormon junkie faggot basically. It was easy as shit for me, I don't think I was ever actually addicted. I just liked smoking to enhance movies/video games/sex/music.

It can be mentally addicting but much different that the physical addiction that alcoholics have. Your body actually thinks you need alcohol and will react if you don’t get it. With weed, you might just be bored and depressed for a couple days.

Just switch from the hard stuff to natty light, you can pound those all day and be just fine.

Yeah I'm no help there man. Seriously though I can't quit, and my dad violated his parole earlier this year because he can't quit. I guess I'm just fucked in this regard genetically. It's just in some people and you gotta make the best of it I guess.

Agoraphobia is easy to manage for most, just don't go anywhere near Athens.

get "the fear"

Wait until you get panic attacks on the interstate caused by angina and palpitations.

That got my off Xanax but not booze

It wasn't the Xanax. It was the DT's caused by booze withdrawal. Everyone says they don't come up for a couple of days, but if you get blackout drunk every night (and I mean EVERY night) for over a decade, you start to get the DT's in the late afternoon.

I was in 3rd day Xanax withdrawal and yes same thing blackout drunk every night it happened at 10 am on my way to a job hungover as fuck it was a mess. I'm kind of mess. But yeah I froze pulled over got out of the car thought I was having a heart attack and had to have a co-worker come pick me up cause I thought I was dying. Love you

It happened to me at the same interstate junction in the same direction three days in a row so I knew it was a panic attack.

That shit really whooshes from your ears to the tips of your toes.

whats “the fear”

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You have to find other shit to occupy your time. I used to drink a lot and now only drink 4-5 drinks a week but I definitely feel the itch to drink when I’m bored. A lot of people use exercise to replace it but I’ve mostly used games to keep me distracted. TV and movies are too passive.

Once I found coke, I was finally able to tell alcohol to "get off my back, Jack!"

Zero, or Diet?

New

You should go to the gym and get in shape

A) you might get pussy for the first time in your life B) you won’t die

And after being tired out it really does relieve stress. And you might just think, eh, im too tired to drink rn. That anxiety to get the party started leaves you and you don't need the drink. Happens for me

Exercising also boosts your mood and focus, and you'll have a new sort of energy that will make you not want to drink anyway. That's my experience anyway. But that's why it's best to do it in the morning to set your day up right.

No, a virgin

My man, good luck to you

I'm going to try to do something challenging when I get off work maybe reading, hiking or learning a new hobby because the only reason I drink is to kill the boredom. I notice alot of people who successfully stop being addicts work 7 days a week. My theory just resting is boring as fuck, we have to be constantly doing something.

I notice alot of people who successfully stop being addicts work 7 days a week.

I'm the complete opposite. I have two full time jobs. I think part of the reason I can do it is because it's a lot easier to work at night if you're drinking.

Like, I don't want to do the work but if I have a couple cocktails it takes the edge off.

you will start to get fatigued regularly, then your appetite will diminish drastically, and your belly will swell. Then if you don't put away the drink, you will die two to five years after that. alcohol is both beautiful and ugly.

He's not gonna die in 2 years, people can be drunks for decades.

Danny just got out of the nut house and should be sober. You might want to talk to him.

Did he try to fuck you? Because if not then it wasn't Danny.

Im a high functioning alcoholic so I gonna stick with it

I don't drink every night or every week but I fucking go hard when I drink, usually to a black out for the last few hours I am awake. My buddy is getting divorced and we got a hotel last weekend and ordered a hooker that we didn't end up fucking and instead got fucking plastered on two bottles of vodka and going down a deep fucking rabbit hole on satanic conspiracy websites. I blacked out and made a fucking huge embarrassing post on the forum, didn't even remember it the next day and was hung over for about 3 hours the next day. I know where you're coming from on the black out situation.

Opiesinstantreplay is right if you've been drinking for a long time heavy you can have seizures, I have a buddy that gets them frequently. Shits fucking scary man. I would console a physician and study up on how to do it the low slow way if you want to quit. Alcoholism is 100 times worse than marijuana addiction which I gave up overnight because marijuana addiction is a fucking myth, there's nothing physical to that shit. Hope you tread the waters of quitting slowly and properly dude. If not, fucking party on brother.

going hard once in awhile isn't anything, fuck outta here regular guy

Excuse me sir, did you read the part where he embarrassed himself while drinking and posting on a satanic website? This man is a menace to society for a few hours a night every other month!

Benzos, a commitment to quit, and books. I’m back on the bottle but last time I broke a 3 year binge that’s what worked. I think “books” can be any hobby that you can get engaged enough with to distract you from drinking. Benzos are essential though. Klonopin keeps the cravings at bay but you have to be committed to quitting because if you mix benzos and alcohol you can get real fucked up. It sent me to the hospital. That’s when I stopped drinking last time. Unfortunately I only learned half the lesson.

So glad I never started drinking. Always hated the taste of that shit.

Never tried those faggy fruity drinks they make just for people like yourself? I never picked up drinking either but the taste was never a factor for me.

That's one of the gayest things I have ever read. I would tell you if it wasn't, honestly.

....and I'll post the same thing I always do.

Remember you'll need help dealing with whatever emotional shit you've been using alcohol to put off, so find a counsellor that you trust to help you work through it in manageable chunks.

Good luck!

Thank you. 12 step is a cult full of mentally ill people who are desperate to cling to the simplicity of the 12 step explanation of their problems and what you can do to fix them. They are terrified of challenging their beliefs and they hate new information and independent thought with a passion, doing everything in their power to suppress it. Everyone who has ever thought about or been suggested treatment for substance use should read that article

Most people in 12 step dont need to be there. It's for people who are so deep into it they need to rebuild their entire personality. Ironically, Stanhope is the type who would need it the most since his entire life and personality is drinking 24/7.

Doug doesn't have a problem. That's like saying Hunter S. Thompson shouldn't have drank.

That's like saying Hunter S. Thompson shouldn't have drank.

He shouldn't have. He would have been more prolific and probably wouldn't have blown his head off with a shotgun.

He's over 50 and the greatest comic to ever breathe into a mic, fuck it.

He's far from the greatest comic, but he could be. His act has deteriorated a lot and you can tell from his cadence that his brain is literally rotten away with booze. He is constantly glassy eyed and stumbling over his words.

Only retards think great artists are great because of their crippling addictions rather than despite them.

He shouldn't have. He would have been more prolific and probably wouldn't have blown his head off with a shotgun.

Agree to disagree.

Beer Hall Putsch was within the last decade and is easily a top 10 special of all time. He got his best work out already and would arguably be more lionized if he were dead now. He has a quote about some of his peers on an old podcast that always stuck with me. "If he was dead he would be a legend but now the reaction is oh he's still doing this?" Andy Andrist never got a fair shake with the industry but Amy Schumer is being pushed by them. Reality is retarded so you might as well get fucked up too.

Beer Hall Putsch was within the last decade and is easily a top 10 special of all time. He got his best work out already and would arguably be more lionized if he were dead now.

You're not paying attention. I am not saying Doug Stanhope never released a good comedy special. Yes, if he died he would be worshiped. The problem is he's not dead, he's living on as a stumbling drunk whose specials are getting worse and worse. You saying that he recognizes this doesn't really mean much in regards to my position, I am saying booze has ruined his mind and delivery and if he stopped, or got sober awhile ago, he could probably have 4 more Beer Hall Putsches.

You're not paying attention.

Lol, can't really dispute that because I'm more focused on me being right. I don't know maybe you are right but I feel like no one should have told Keith Richards to stop doing heroin even though I personally think the Rolling Stones suck and are gay.

I can, but it's too fucking boring and miserable being sober.

Take this faggot shit to a recovery sub

I drank lots of beers. It’s doable. Find something else to do. Part of it is that you have this shitty routine that you are in.

I'm finding it harder than expected as well. I tend to quit for a few days to a week and luckily the cravings go away pretty quickly for me. But as soon as I allow myself a beer after a week of not drinking I end up drinking every day again for a weeks straight.

I use speed regularly which is part of the problem because it goes really well with alcohol. I recently switched from beer to wine because I've gained weight. I guess that's my junkie way of pretending I'm health conscious.

I just woke up one day and didnt want to drink anymore. It was getting harder to shake a long night of drinking the next day. Took a couple months to feel "normal" but I wasnt drinking as hard as I did when I was younger. It was nice to get out of that daily haze.

I used to be a heavy drinker to the point where I wasn't even getting any enjoyment out of it any more, I was only drinking so I could feel normal. If you have a specific reason for why you want to quit besides "muh health" (which you probably didn't give a shit about in the first place considering how you got to where you are), it makes things easier. The first week is obviously horrible, but if you're willing to give up something that is so important to you to better yourself, you can stick it out. The killer is when you are a month or so sober and you're like, "Hey, this ain't so bad. I think I can control myself and drink moderately. Plenty of people do it." Don't. You clearly have an addictive personality, and once you have another drink, you're gonna say to yourself, "Hey, I don't feel totally fucked up. I could probably handle another one", and so on and so forth. Good luck breh.

I had a great self-help thread going in the old sub, sad that this has been deleted.

Anyways, just stop being such a humongous fag and lay off the bottle. jeez.

Feel free to message me if you have other questions.

I was drunk every day for 7 years, wanted to stop for 5 years. Eventually I lost my job as well as everything else and had no other option but to stop. It sucked for a night or two but once you can sleep again, everything else levels outs. I've been sober for 4 months now and don't miss it, definitely don't miss feeling like shit all the time.

I think kratom is good for both opiate and alcohol WDs

Kratom lowers the seizure threshold, which is the last thing you want during alcohol withdrawal.

I’ll show myself out

If you can quit for one week you will find it easier to keep it off for another week. After 3 weeks the physical addiction will be gone and it's all psychological. That's how I quit smoking, after 3 weeks anyone can quit anything and then its just leeping that routine until you forget about it.

Sometimes you suck the bottle and sometimes the bottle sucks from you.

I’ve never crossed much into hard liquor; was always a beer drunk (I can still pound 40 of them a day for about a week when I go on a bender). Just make sure to taper off.

You have to find something you enjoy more than drinking. Drinking is fucking fun. I still struggle with this, and fall off the wagon.

If you want to hear from some other drunks, try r/CripplingAlcoholism . They aren’t huge faggots like most other subreddits.

Buy a gun. The rest will come naturally. Worked for Nana.

Going on 10 years myself, currently at a 15 pack of naddy daddys every 2 days, and for about the past year, every night after 4-5 beers, take an 8 mg suboxone strip and melt it down and shoot it up, and despite what anyone says, it’s a great heroin like high if you do it after a few beers. I make it to work every day, in fine physical shape, and welcome health problems and death with a warm smile. So why the fuck should I ever stop?

That a boy!

If you can afford it, find a rehab. If not, talk to an MD. Withdrawal from alcohol (also benzos) can kill you if you go cold turkey. There will always be someone who survived going cold turkey who thinks this is bullshit but it kills more people than it works for. I work in inpatient psych and the majority of the people who get admitted at my site are ODs. I'm around people detoxing every day. Every withdrawal sucks but with alcohol or benzos, you absolutely need to have a doctor monitoring you.

A lot of people can't do this alone. Don't get down on yourself if you need help. The people who I've seen retain their sobriety the longest are the ones who have some kind of support system. The fact that your interest in giving up booze is your own and not some kind of ultimatum is a great start. Feel free to PM me if you want to talk privately.

Yeah I quit, it's easy when you hit rock bottom and realize you don't wanna go back to that.

I can't believe you faggots mock norton for this shit.

I had some rum raisin ice cream and used mouth wash when I was 17. I was in a dark place man. But I worked the program, lived with my parents until I was 30, and now chase after tranny cam girls from Viking lands between stand up gigs and an unlistenable radio show with a genetic throwback.

Point/counterpoint:
/r/stopdrinking
/r/cripplingalcoholism

Junk science:
/r/FriendsOfBillW
/r/alcoholicsanonymous

Point: /r/dryalcoholics

I actually stopped Wednesday; I've drank on and off since i was 18 I'm in my early 30's now. I don't know how heavy a drinker you are but i think my habits (at least in the last 5 years) were mild compared to most which is like a 30 pack of light beer a week (maybe 3 or 4 a day) with some whiskey shooters mixed in. Drinking was always done at night in the basement while I'd watch whatever bulllshit was on or listen to music/podcasts before heading up to bed. It was never "I hate my life" drinking i saw it more as carrry over from college that i just never stopped for whatever reason. Usually about two hours of drinking before I'd call it a night and of course I'd stop at the kitchen on the way up and find whatever i could to gorge on whether it be lunch meat, a candybar, whatever was around. I took an office job back in 2012 which meant a lot of sitting (which was different for me as my older jobs i was on my feet all the time) which lead to me getting really fucking lazy and a beer belly that most can't even tell i have based on how i dress. Anyway, I've gotten bored of it and its really lost any enjoyment i can once said i got from it so on Wednesday night as i brought my 24 ounce shitty light beer downstairs along with a few whiskey shooters to watch Jon Wick i just....didn't drink them. It wasn't some big moment of clarity, i just left them there until the movie was over and popped them back in the fridge as i went upstairs to bed. Day three and i can't say it's been that bad; no shakes, I don't wake up a million times to piss at night, and i actually feel like I've gotten some real sleep which is really refreshing. I'm not "craving" it (not yet at least) and don't feel like a hunk of shit in general and ended up already down three pounds. I'm not a doctor so i cant recommend cold turkey because i know that doesn't work for everyone, I'm not even sure it's going to work for me long term. Good luck with it all man.

I went from being a successful financial advisor at 24 (holding the demons at bay), to a homeless opiate, alcohol, cocaine, Klonopin, amphetamine, abusing shell of a human in just a few years. I have now been clean and sober for 9 years. Tried so many times to stop, and it finally stuck when I realized that I was at a point where my life was redeemable and I could still salvage what I destroyed, and if I didn't stop, I would have lost any ability to make a comeback to a normal life that I once knew. I also felt differently that time because I wasn't fighting getting clean, but I embraced it and just knew that it was my time.

Behavioral Therapy, other forms of Therapy, and non-12 step, non-religious based addiction support groups, were a comprehensive way for me to ensure success. I am of the opinion that the desire to drink/do drugs, to the level such as you are and i was, is rooted in issues that will continue to make sobriety difficult, until taken care of. Good luck.

There are quite a few online addiction support groups that are based on behavioral therapy as opposed to 12-step/faith based groups.

Take control. Good luck. It's completely worth it

If it makes you feel any better I've never had a problem with drink or drugs before. Good luck 😊

I was drinking four handles a week just to keep the shakes at bay. My blood pressure was insanely high and if I let things continue I wasn't going to live much longer. So I tapered off over a month or two and got on antidepressants. Now, it's been several years since my last drink and I don't have any desire to have another one. I don't know exactly how long because I'm not an AA faggot like Morton.

Are you still on antidepressants tho? Cuz that shit makes you crazy. A family member of mine got a prescription for them that he probably didn't even need but that he liked for obvious reasons. He died out of the blue at 25 years old because he randomly decided to order a bunch of heroin and meth and OD. There was literally nothing illicit in his apartment becides those 2 things. Also a lot of mass shooters are on that shit. Just sayin.

They've been nothing but good for me. I'm far less impulsive now because the pills give me time to think if my impending reaction to a stimulus is rational. I don't spend money I don't have or automatically go into hothead mode because someone said something that I perceived as an insult. Also it makes the crippling anxiety much less crippling. A lot of mass shooters are on that shit because mass shooters tend to be fucking nuts.

Look up osteonecrosis, I learned about it the hard way.

I'm surprised you lasted a decade. Only thing that keeps me off drinking is I'm not ready to totally ruin my life. Came close but I decided to get out of it. It took several withdrawals and medical treatment but I quit, it's been 6 months not a sip, and that's coming from nightly blackouts like you.

I ruined too many relationships and lost my job so yeah, after so many times getting burned I figured out alcohol just wasn't gonna do anything but fuck up my life. I have that "gene" or whatever. After quitting I got another job that actually ended up being better, but if I start drinking again I know it's a matter of time before I just end up driving drunk or doing something else insanely stupid and dangerous.

Never did AA, no offense if anyone does that but I always thought it was pretty gay.

I haven't had a drink/drug since November 19th, 2012 when I was at the age of 21. I knew immediately that Norton was a dry drunk, and Colin Quinn was an exemplary human being.

But yea I used to black out 2 or 3 times a week, I was living with mother and she would sometimes pick me up from random suburbs, or I'd pass out at the airport or in some farm field. Basically I had to become a huge fag and surrender myself to 12 step work but now I'm at like 6.5 years and things are good, I have lots of great sex with hot men and trannies and am on the up & up, it takes a bit of humility and willingness brothaman but anything is possible.

If you ever quit, it won't be until you get arrested or do something so bad it scares you into quitting. So... at least you got that to look forward to.

There's a really good book called Alcohol Explained that may or may not ruin drinking for you. I wasn't as far in as you are, but recently read it and got sober and aside from the occasional craving I don't really miss it. Hope it helps faggot