Alex Jones says wacky shit for attention and views but it's fucking obvious he's not completely wrong about everything and there is truth to a lot of what he says.
Joe Rogan is a gatekeeping faggot. The guy used to be HUGE on conspiracies and now he acts like he never was. I guarantee he was (((approached))) and told to shut the fuck up and quit bringing normalizing people like Alex.
Alright lad we've all seen bill hicks calm yourself down. If you have an alternative to "serving your masters" that isn't being an absolute embarrassment to your family let me know
I don't have to care what my family think because I have my own house because I work. If you think leeching off the system or your family is having a backbone good luck with that
You don't own your house, you rent a plot of land from the sovereign. That's why you pay property taxes, the state owns all land. Try not paying them, dumb ass.
Genuinely admitting he'd rather serve his masters than look like an "embarrassment". Try being like Christ, the Buddha, Lao Tzu, or one of a thousand of a non-cogs in history, fool.
Yeah wow it’s an entire 1400 a year for lakefront property. I pay property tax so I have garbage and snow removal, police and fire. Roads are nice to drive on as well.
Yeah, sure is crazy how that was done for thousands of generations without government. Funny that you use that much in government services. Great you proved my point, you don't pay they take it away, that means you don't own it, SUCKER!
Public roads have existed for thousands of years. Even today in virtually stateless states like Somalia, there's definitely not only well paved roads but you can safely travel them. I'm sure the garbage removal is great there too lol
Yeah because it takes thousands of dollars to maintain one plow truck for 1 month. You’re obviously a broke ass loser who cares about $100. $100 is something I’ll wipe my ass with.
Vana Parva, Sub-parva 36, sect. 178; vol. 2
Be he ever so wise and strong, wealth confounds a man. In my view, anyone living in comfort fails to reason.
Udyoga Parva, Sub-parva 51, sect. 34; vol. 3
The poor always eat better: hunger sweetens their dishes, and that is rare among the rich. It is generally found in the world that the rich have no appetite, but the poor, O Indra of kings, digest even wood.
Tibetan Liturgy of the Naljorpa
For ages, in the course of renewed births I have borrowed from countless living beings - at the cost of their welfare and life blood, clothing, all kinds of services to sustain my body, to keep it joyful in comfort and to defend it against death. Today, I pay my debt, offering for destruction this body which I have held so dear.
I give my flesh to the hungry, my blood to the thirsty-, my skin to clothe those who are naked, my bones as fuel to those who suffer from cold. I give my happiness to the unhappy ones. I give my breath to bring back the dying to life. Shame on me if I shrink from giving my self! Shame on you, wretched and demoniac beings, l if you do not dare to prey upon it.
The Analects of Confucius, sect. 1, Part 6
The Master said, "When Ch'ih was proceeding to Ch'i, he had fat horses to his carriage, and wore light furs. I have heard that a superior man helps the distressed, but does not add to the wealth of the rich."
The Tao Te Ching, Chapter 9
Those who overly pride wealth is like the overflowing water which shall cause damages. It is
better to restrain early.
Those who are not content with fame is like polishing the edge of a knife.
The sharper it gets, the easier it is to break.
Wealth and treasures are but illusions that one cannot possess.
Those who are arrogant of their wealth and fame shall invite blame upon oneself.
The nature Tao teaches one to retreat after one’s success and not to hold on to the credit.
Zhuangzi, Chapter 9
When horses live on the plain, they eat grass and drink from the streams. Pleased, they twine their necks together and rub; angry, they turn back to back and kick. This is all horses know how to do. But if you pile poles and yokes on them and line them up in crossbars and shafts, then they will learn to snap the crossbars, break the yoke, rip the carriage top, champ the bit, and chew the reins. Thus horses learn how to commit the worst kinds of mischief. This is the crime of Po Lo.
In the days of Ho Hsu, people stayed home but didn’t know what they were doing, walked around but didn’t know where they were going. Their mouths crammed with food, they were merry; drumming on their bellies, they passed the time. This was as much as they were able to do.
Then the sage came along with the crouchings and bendings of rites and music, which were intended to reform the bodies of the world; with the reaching-for-a-dangled-prize of benevolence and righteousness, which was intended to comfort the hearts of the world.
Then for the first time people learned to stand on tiptoe and covet knowledge, to fight to the death over profit, and there was no stopping them. This in the end was the fault of the sage
Ecclesiastes 4:4-6
Again, I considered all travail, and every right work, that for this a man is envied of his neighbour. This is also vanity and vexation of spirit.
The fool foldeth his hands together, and eateth his own flesh.
Better is an handful with quietness, than both the hands full with travail and vexation of spirit.
Diogenes of Sinope, Stobaeus, iv. 29a. 19.
The noblest people are those despising wealth, learning, pleasure and life; esteeming above them poverty, ignorance, hardship and death.
Stobaeus, iv. 31c. 88
Virtue cannot dwell with wealth either in a city or in a house.
Stobaeus, iv. 32a. 11
Self-taught poverty is a help toward philosophy, for the things which philosophy attempts to teach by reasoning, poverty forces us to practice.
Stobaeus, iv. 32a. 19
Poverty is a virtue which one can teach oneself.
Aristotle, Politics.
Happiness, whether consisting in pleasure or virtue, or both, is more often found with those who are highly cultivated in their minds and in their character, and have only a moderate share of external goods, than among those who possess external goods to a useless extent but are deficient in higher qualities.
Ovid, Metamorphoses, L. 140
Riches, the incentives to evil, are dug out of the earth.
Mark 8:36
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Matthew 19:24
And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
Luke 12:15
And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.
1 Timothy 6:10
For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
Rousseau, Discourse on the Inequality of Man
The first man, who, after enclosing a piece of ground, took it into his head to say, "This is mine," and found people simple enough to believe him, was the true founder of civil society. How many crimes, how many wars, how many murders, how many misfortunes and horrors, would that man have saved the human species, who pulling up the stakes or filling up the ditches should have cried to his fellows: Be sure not to listen to this imposter; you are lost, if you forget that the fruits of the earth belong equally to us all, and the earth itself to nobody!
Men soon ceasing to fall asleep under the first tree, or take shelter in the first cavern, lit upon some hard and sharp kinds of stone resembling spades or hatchets, and employed them to dig the ground, cut down trees, and with the branches build huts, which they afterwards bethought themselves of plastering over with clay or dirt. This was the epoch of a first revolution, which produced the establishment and distinction of families, and which introduced a species of property, and along with it perhaps a thousand quarrels and battles.
these conveniences having through use lost almost all their aptness to please, and even degenerated into real wants, the privation of them became far more intolerable than the possession of them had been agreeable; to lose them was a misfortune, to possess them no happiness.
They now begin to assemble round a great tree: singing and dancing, the genuine offspring of love and leisure, become the amusement or rather the occupation of the men and women, free from care, thus gathered together. Every one begins to survey the rest, and wishes to be surveyed himself; and public esteem acquires a value. He who sings or dances best; the handsomest, the strongest, the most dexterous, the most eloquent, comes to be the most respected: this was the first step towards inequality, and at the same time towards vice. From these first preferences there proceeded on one side vanity and contempt, on the other envy and shame; and the fermentation raised by these new leavens at length produced combinations fatal to happiness and innocence.
It was thus that every man, punishing the contempt expressed for him by others in proportion to the value he set upon himself, the effects of revenge became terrible, and men learned to be sanguinary and cruel. Such precisely was the degree attained by most of the savage nations with whom we are acquainted. And it is for want of sufficiently distinguishing ideas, and observing at how great a distance these people were from the first state of nature, that so many authors have hastily concluded that man is naturally cruel, and requires a regular system of police to be reclaimed; whereas nothing can be more gentle than he in his primitive state, when placed by nature at an equal distance from the stupidity of brutes, and the pernicious good sense of civilized man.
This period of the development of the human faculties, holding a just mean between the indolence of the primitive state, and the petulant activity of self-love, must have been the happiest and most durable epoch. The more we reflect on this state, the more convinced we shall be, that it was the least subject of any to revolutions, the best for man, and that nothing could have drawn him out of it but some fatal accident, which, for the public good, should never have happened.
In a word, as long as they undertook such works only as a single person could finish, and stuck to such arts as did not require the joint endeavours of several hands, they lived free, healthy, honest and happy, as much as their nature would admit, and continued to enjoy with each other all the pleasures of an independent intercourse; but from the moment one man began to stand in need of another's assistance; from the moment it appeared an advantage for one man to possess the quantity of provisions requisite for two, all equality vanished; property started up; labour became necessary; and boundless forests became smiling fields, which it was found necessary to water with human sweat, and in which slavery and misery were soon seen to sprout out and grow with the fruits of the earth.
It is iron and corn, which have civilized men, and ruined mankind.
If that was in Canada the government would bend you over , pull your pants down, and fawwwk you in the ass. They view lakefront property owners as piggy banks.
Cunt, the federal reserve owned and exploited by foreigners is a ticking time bomb that will inevitably blow.
Alex Jones is one of the few people who talks about this type of stuff. But continue to enjoy CNN and Fox telling you how we need to fight for Israel's latest bullshit.
Not saying that Rogan is some kind of genius, but I can't fault anybody who actually reflects on their opinions and is willing to change them when confronted with facts. I know it's not fun when the person one is arguing with starts agreeing with them, but the bigger man (or midget, in this case) admits when he is wrong.
I can't respect Alex Jones's opinion at all, because he doesn't actually have any opinions. He has shown multiple times (e.g., Pizzagate and divorce court) that he will do a complete 180° on his takes when faced with legal trouble, and his dumbass fans will do anything to justify him folding under pressure.
You're a fucking moron. (((When the legal system puts clamps on you, you need to say the right things))).
No one who is truly red pilled and in public is able to completely show their power level. We all have to do this to some degree unless you're some sort of an ultra normie PC faggot. Which a lot of you might be seeing as we're on reddit.
They're not morons, they're rationalizing their anger and sense of threat. They don't want to confess the real reasons they hate him because it would make them look weak and out of control
The fact that the only time Alex supposedly “admits he is fake” or whatever is when he is being squeezed by the legal system doesn’t say anything about his integrity to me. What is he supposed to start ranting about fluoride in the courtroom while he is fighting for custody of his kids?
Alex has also gone on record numerous times talking about how they (whoever they are) spend a lot of time trying to get him into court to scare him, and legally stop him from spouting his views.
Why do you have that in quotations? He admitted, through his attorney, that he was a fake. If he genuinely believed the shit he spewed, he wouldn't back down when those beliefs become inconvenient.
He is a coward who panders to suckers for financial gain, and backs down like a bitch when faced with actual ramifications for his actions.
Because that’s what all the headlines are saying. It’s saying “admits he’s fake” or “claims he’s an on air character”. And you may find him disingenuous for not standing behind his beliefs when he is either in danger of losing visitation to his kids, or potentially about to be sued for millions, but I personally don’t. I’m not even one of these maniacs that believes everything he says as gospel, I’m just perceptive enough to see that there is a massive worldwide PR campaign going to silence one man, so something he’s saying must be hitting a nerve.
Oh shut up with your nonsense. If I implied that a restaurant was involved in a child sex ring or that a school shooting was a government orchestration, I can be sued. Lying and damaging people's reputations is called libel (or slander).
If this coward was telling the truth, he wouldn't have backed down like a pussy. He has the money to fight these people, but he chose to backtrack and apologize. He has no values or stances, because be is a coward who panders to morons for money.
Remember after the Vegas shooting he said he had sources on the swat saying there was antifa propaganda and posters all over the room? Sure you heard that, bud.
He was offered a Rush Limbaugh like gig in the early 2000s that would have paid several millions per year but he turned it down because of the restrictions they placed on what he could say on the air. So this argument doesn't square away and smells of something else.
Either he is a pussy who won't back his claims out of fear of the consequences OR he is a careless moron who regurgitates lies because he lacks critical thinking.
Alex Jones has offered numerous apologies and has gone on record claiming that he is a fraud. Either he is a liar or a gullible fool.
I was sort of joking, but I don’t tolerate lactose well. Believe it or not, you can cook all sorts of things without dairy, from basic to advanced. Look into it.
fucking obvious he's not completely wrong about everything and there is truth to a lot of what he says.
Or he sprinkles in some truth only to keep a small foothold in reality to get rubes to defend him. He's pure carnival barker. The only "truth" he may speak is designed, like everything else he says, to make money.
apparently he took down his recent interview with Jack Dorsey of twitter. Alex Jones was brought up. Rogan went to the Sandy Hook talking point to frame him being banned from everywhere, and he didn't seem too concerned with painting the Sandy Hook hoax thing as a media exaggeration meant to target Jones, Joe seemed to just casually cite it as a known factor to indicate that Alex sealed his own fate, that Joe has washed his hands of him.
Joe's casual drop of "Sandy Hook" is made meaningful if you see this video from about a month ago. Alex Jones said he personally called Joe about possibly going on Joe's show and to clear up the air, and in the end Joe decided not to let him back on his podcast. With that Alex asked at least if Joe would stop repeating the Sandy Hook hoax talking point as Alex has publicly apologized and retracted his past statements about it dozens of times, and Joe went so far as to tell Alex that no, he wouldn't give him that courtesy either. His casual, dismissive mention of Jones -> Sandy Hook -> Deserved to be banned reasoning in yesterday's Jack Dorsey interview, knowing that conversation took place recently, makes Joe look pretty slimy right now
Analogy that might work if Chapman took a list of people from the book and used that as his direct (not interpreted) source of targets, as Hodgkinson did with the SPLC's hate list. You're being dishonest sir, and I think you know it.
He has seen the new lay of the land where social media activists think giving someone a platform on your show = endorsement. So he's gone from Charles C. Johnson to Bari Weiss, who isn't even a conservative but gets called one because she said "believe all women" was ridiculous.
So it's funny, Joe always talks about how independent he is that he can do gigs anywhere anytime with his cult fan base and make money from UFC so doesn't need the mainstream. But over the last year he's sure tried to join it. He must be afraid of losing Netflix.
Dunno what it is but everyone can tell something happened.
(((Bari Weiss))) authored the NYT cringe fest "intellectual dark web" article that included Joe as one of them.
boiling hot take that's not a rehash at all: It's a transparent effort to deflect the edgy/subversive aura to the alt right who, like them or not, are actually possessed of some dangerous allure after being relegated to the dark web because their viewpoints get them banned from platforms and payment services. To then pose as if the dangerous stuff edgy stuff is actually over here, at NYT and big YouTube channels with a few Jews and shabbos goys, as if people couldn't smell the bullshit, is a testament to their arrogance and condescension and is backfiring spectacularly before our eyes. I think Joe has somehow got wrapped up in this as some kind of tool for these people through duress.
Joe’s written Alex off just from what he’s heard second hand about the sandy hook shit. He’s like everyone else who hears that Infowars was deplatformed and just takes Apple and YouTube’s word for it it that Alex committed the unforgivable crime of “hate speech.”
no wonder, Joe was still trying to be cool and relate to the common man in 2017, look at the photos of mick jagger and michael jackson in the background. Then, the government finally gets to him, and he changes it to the flag of northern aggression.
You sound like one of those frogs that the inter-dimensional shape-shifting child-molesting psychic vampires turned gay. You should find a new water source.
Can’t really blame rogan... he does like 15 hrs of podcasts a week so he’s gotta fill time and he’s decent at it even if everything is about a chimp and is “fascinating”. Good podcaster but is not funny at all. Just good at repeating things
Yawn. You can still find Jones, and his entertainment program, all over the internet. He wasn't "deplatformed" (buzzword loving faggots). JRE has always been a dog shit podcast for stones and people who love to watch guests babble for 3 hours without having their views challenged.
Jam that down vote button snowflakes and wipe away the tears when you read the truth.
Yeh I don't get this argument. Jones still has a very functioning website you can read/view everything he says on it. If this is what you like just exist in that world.
Bunch of crybabies looking for more to cry about. Plain and simple. They don't understand the 1st amendment, they don't understand private industry or legal documents like "terms of service" and they simply don't understand that they can create their own platform at any time. Isn't America great?
I understand that Big Tech benefits from legal immunity that newspapers and the like don't because they're supposed to be providing an open forum. Once they start banning people they don't like, "curating" content, and generally behaving like a publisher, they should be legally responsible for whatever they choose to leave up, just as a publisher would be.
They aren't curating content, they are monitoring individual contributors to their private forum. Every YouTube upload is basically an opinion piece from the user. It isn't journalism or factual based reporting. Hence why my OP stated Jones was an "entertainment" channel. It's the same cop out Hannity etc use when backed against a wall. To use your analogy, no newspaper need LET someone print an OpEd stating why all Canadians should be exterminated, or why rape of children should be OK. They have the right to simply say, "Nope. Our news organization doesn't want that opinion on our platform".
What? Of course they curate content, and it's pretty surprising anyone could think otherwise after all the uproar over fake news on social media and how they need to take responsibility for stopping the spread of it. One of the big stories about Youtube just this past week was how they're going to limit the visibility of "conspiracy" videos by altering the recommendation algorithm. Their trending tab has long promoted things they want you to see, not things that are actually organically trending. Which is why you can always find crap from network TV with low view counts there, while a lot of homegrown Youtubers who blow them out of the water with millions more views never show up there at all.
The thing that finally got Alex Jones banned from Twitter was, what? Yelling at Oliver Darcy? How is something that happens IRL (so, presumably off platform) a violation of Twitter's TOS? Their TOS doesn't even mean anything according to Jack himself in this very interview because they "don't look at speech but at conduct". Which strangely somehow means that advocating the doxxing or murder of some smirky-faced teenager is cool with them, but telling a laid off Buzzfeed writer to learn to code is bannable harassment.
I'll grant you that in their struggle to "explain" away their choices they do a terrible job. They are trying to walk a tightrope that cannot be managed. They should stick to the simple, and true, answer; "This is a private, for profit, enterprise where we govern our community to our TOS and the interpretation of the TOS as we, the owners, see fit."
That said, what is your solution? Government oversight and CONTROL of content? Government CONTROL of for profit private companies?
There is simply no lack of the content you, and others wish to see on the internet. There are several sites still hosting conspiracy theories, Alt Right "rhetoric" etc. I personally like using those sites more than YouTube and I don't even HAVE a Twitter account because it's fucking gay.
In conclusion, there isn't a vast conspiracy to deplatform Alt Right or Conspiracy theories. It's still widely available, but the slippery slope of government control and oversight of private sector companies is WAYYYY too far to take it.
The government already intervened when it gave them a special exemption from litigation. Remove that, and there should be no reason to regulate them at all.
Twitter has been sued repeatedly for banning people, but the cases are always dismissed on the grounds that Section 230 gives them immunity. It's a strange world in which a federal court can rule that the president isn't allowed to block people from his own account (many of whom are engaging in what would be called straight up harassment if it were aimed at, say, Leslie Jones) because it infringes on their first amendment rights somehow, but Twitter is allowed to ban those same people from their entire platform, even if doing so cripples them professionally.
Pretty strange, too, that the corporate media constantly scream at social media companies to get rid of the shit that they don't like, and the social media companies scrape and bow and go, "Yes, massas, we's a tryin'!", and you can act like there is no concerted effort. I don't like most of that retarded shit myself, but I like being told what I can watch even less. Whether it's dictated by governments or corporations bullying other corporations through peer pressure and bad press makes little difference to me.
On the other hand, 230 is used as a barrier to shield a lot of inflammatory personalities from getting in legal hot water over their "content". Can't have it both ways. You did, unfortunately, spin off into a rant about your preconceived notions on this topic that seem to be....one sided.
You seem to be using the 230 argument to justify that, Yes the government SHOULD take control of YouTube and Twitter. Am I wrong?
Capitalism IS profiting off of the free market. Twitter and the rest of the "leading" streaming or social media sites WANT mainstream dollars and attention. So of course when their profits are lessened by content that the overwhelming majority feel is "inappropriate" then they will remove it, them etc.
The reality is: this is Capitalism, and the fringe Alt Right or whatever you want to call it and the conspiracy theory lovers are not a large enough market group.
No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider.
That's the relevant text. It doesn't prevent Alex Jones being held legally responsible for what Alex Jones says. All it does it prevent Alex Jones from being held legally responsible for what users of his website say in the comments.
I don't know how you can construe anything I said to mean that I want the government to take control of Youtube and Twitter, but if I were to hazard a guess it's that you were too busy trying to read into what I'm saying to just simply read what I actually said. Which, if you'll recall, was that the more they block this and shadowban that, verify users and then remove user verification as a form of discipline, promote certain content above other content, etc., the fewer and fewer reasons there are not to treat them as a sort of publisher.
Both articles use Milo as their primary example. Are you using this as debate material, or letting us in on your own personal views on pedophilia?
Perhaps you would like to acknowledge that Milo "lost influence" because his Alt Right shock jock gimmick wore thin and he went too far with his zeal for kid touching.
If you want to die on the hill "The Victim Milo" please continue, it'll be easier to win just letting you proceed with that angle.
You dumb fuck. You dont see anything weird about a while bunch of separate entities effectively shutting him down on the same day? That's a real conspiracy right there. Start your own site: like Gab? They tried shutting and even went as far as threatening the domain hosts. Fucking shill. I can't wait til shit falls apart and you faggots kill each other for food.
“So an evil couple of globalists are attempting to take over the world and enslave humanity? That’s interesting, but have you ever done DMT bro? Let’s talk about that instead bro.” - Joe Rogan
Cunt, the federal reserve owned and exploited by foreigners is a ticking time bomb that will inevitably blow.
Alex Jones is one of the few people who talks about this type of stuff. But continue to enjoy CNN and Fox telling you how we need to fight for Israel's latest bullshit.
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1 dotsontheory 2019-02-02
Alex Jones says wacky shit for attention and views but it's fucking obvious he's not completely wrong about everything and there is truth to a lot of what he says.
Joe Rogan is a gatekeeping faggot. The guy used to be HUGE on conspiracies and now he acts like he never was. I guarantee he was (((approached))) and told to shut the fuck up and quit bringing normalizing people like Alex.
1 Lussos 2019-02-02
Or he grew up and realised the only people that actually believe the moon landing was fake are basement dwelling weebs
1 iPadsFromPizzaFace 2019-02-02
Wake the fuck up faggot, wipe the thermite paint off your yamaka and quit the MIND CONTROL!!!! Thank you for your service
1 NguyenLevin71 2019-02-02
*yarmulke
1 CommodorePawsey 2019-02-02
No, silly, a yamaka is a yarmulke used for mind control.
1 realestassdude 2019-02-02
Of course (((Levin))) knows how to spell it.
1 NguyenLevin71 2019-02-02
That’s the fucking bit, stupid.
1 realestassdude 2019-02-02
I’m aware. We’ve spoken before, genius.
1 throwawizzlemahnizzl 2019-02-02
These guys are fuckin
1 NguyenLevin71 2019-02-02
My apologies.
1 SamRobertsPhiltrum 2019-02-02
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1 NguyenLevin71 2019-02-02
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1 SamRobertsPhiltrum 2019-02-02
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1 NguyenLevin71 2019-02-02
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1 Phkna1 2019-02-02
You been smoking chemtrails bro
1 UhLookHereMan 2019-02-02
what if the chemtrails are WEEEEEED SMOOOKE BRO
1 dotsontheory 2019-02-02
Everything the TV tells you is correct. Everything your federally funded public school told you was true. Your government never lies to you.
Go to work and pay your taxes, citizen.
1 Lussos 2019-02-02
Jesus Christ how edgy. What would I do as opposed to going to work when I don't have a mother to feed me tendies all day
1 dotsontheory 2019-02-02
There's nothing edgy about admitting you're a debt slave and your masters constantly lie to you about everything.
Calling me "edgy" is just another part of your conditioning.
Nigger.
1 Lussos 2019-02-02
Alright lad we've all seen bill hicks calm yourself down. If you have an alternative to "serving your masters" that isn't being an absolute embarrassment to your family let me know
1 xxxxxxxxx9xxxxxxxxx 2019-02-02
So you don't want to state the truth because a boomer or queer in your family will call you a Nazi? Nice backbone, stupid.
1 Lussos 2019-02-02
I don't have to care what my family think because I have my own house because I work. If you think leeching off the system or your family is having a backbone good luck with that
1 HiddenThrowAwayIRL 2019-02-02
You don't own your house, you rent a plot of land from the sovereign. That's why you pay property taxes, the state owns all land. Try not paying them, dumb ass.
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1 HiddenThrowAwayIRL 2019-02-02
Genuinely admitting he'd rather serve his masters than look like an "embarrassment". Try being like Christ, the Buddha, Lao Tzu, or one of a thousand of a non-cogs in history, fool.
1 stonepitbull141 2019-02-02
r/iamverydiogenes
1 chulathedog 2019-02-02
Yeah wow it’s an entire 1400 a year for lakefront property. I pay property tax so I have garbage and snow removal, police and fire. Roads are nice to drive on as well.
1 HiddenThrowAwayIRL 2019-02-02
Yeah, sure is crazy how that was done for thousands of generations without government. Funny that you use that much in government services. Great you proved my point, you don't pay they take it away, that means you don't own it, SUCKER!
1 ganazumbi 2019-02-02
Public roads have existed for thousands of years. Even today in virtually stateless states like Somalia, there's definitely not only well paved roads but you can safely travel them. I'm sure the garbage removal is great there too lol
1 chulathedog 2019-02-02
Yeah because it takes thousands of dollars to maintain one plow truck for 1 month. You’re obviously a broke ass loser who cares about $100. $100 is something I’ll wipe my ass with.
1 HiddenThrowAwayIRL 2019-02-02
Vana Parva, Sub-parva 36, sect. 178; vol. 2
Be he ever so wise and strong, wealth confounds a man. In my view, anyone living in comfort fails to reason.
Udyoga Parva, Sub-parva 51, sect. 34; vol. 3
The poor always eat better: hunger sweetens their dishes, and that is rare among the rich. It is generally found in the world that the rich have no appetite, but the poor, O Indra of kings, digest even wood.
Tibetan Liturgy of the Naljorpa
For ages, in the course of renewed births I have borrowed from countless living beings - at the cost of their welfare and life blood, clothing, all kinds of services to sustain my body, to keep it joyful in comfort and to defend it against death. Today, I pay my debt, offering for destruction this body which I have held so dear.
I give my flesh to the hungry, my blood to the thirsty-, my skin to clothe those who are naked, my bones as fuel to those who suffer from cold. I give my happiness to the unhappy ones. I give my breath to bring back the dying to life. Shame on me if I shrink from giving my self! Shame on you, wretched and demoniac beings, l if you do not dare to prey upon it.
The Analects of Confucius, sect. 1, Part 6
The Master said, "When Ch'ih was proceeding to Ch'i, he had fat horses to his carriage, and wore light furs. I have heard that a superior man helps the distressed, but does not add to the wealth of the rich."
The Tao Te Ching, Chapter 9
Those who overly pride wealth is like the overflowing water which shall cause damages. It is
better to restrain early.
Those who are not content with fame is like polishing the edge of a knife.
The sharper it gets, the easier it is to break.
Wealth and treasures are but illusions that one cannot possess.
Those who are arrogant of their wealth and fame shall invite blame upon oneself.
The nature Tao teaches one to retreat after one’s success and not to hold on to the credit.
Zhuangzi, Chapter 9
When horses live on the plain, they eat grass and drink from the streams. Pleased, they twine their necks together and rub; angry, they turn back to back and kick. This is all horses know how to do. But if you pile poles and yokes on them and line them up in crossbars and shafts, then they will learn to snap the crossbars, break the yoke, rip the carriage top, champ the bit, and chew the reins. Thus horses learn how to commit the worst kinds of mischief. This is the crime of Po Lo.
In the days of Ho Hsu, people stayed home but didn’t know what they were doing, walked around but didn’t know where they were going. Their mouths crammed with food, they were merry; drumming on their bellies, they passed the time. This was as much as they were able to do.
Then the sage came along with the crouchings and bendings of rites and music, which were intended to reform the bodies of the world; with the reaching-for-a-dangled-prize of benevolence and righteousness, which was intended to comfort the hearts of the world.
Then for the first time people learned to stand on tiptoe and covet knowledge, to fight to the death over profit, and there was no stopping them. This in the end was the fault of the sage
Ecclesiastes 4:4-6
Again, I considered all travail, and every right work, that for this a man is envied of his neighbour. This is also vanity and vexation of spirit.
The fool foldeth his hands together, and eateth his own flesh.
Better is an handful with quietness, than both the hands full with travail and vexation of spirit.
Diogenes of Sinope, Stobaeus, iv. 29a. 19.
The noblest people are those despising wealth, learning, pleasure and life; esteeming above them poverty, ignorance, hardship and death.
Stobaeus, iv. 31c. 88
Virtue cannot dwell with wealth either in a city or in a house.
Stobaeus, iv. 32a. 11
Self-taught poverty is a help toward philosophy, for the things which philosophy attempts to teach by reasoning, poverty forces us to practice.
Stobaeus, iv. 32a. 19
Poverty is a virtue which one can teach oneself.
Aristotle, Politics.
Happiness, whether consisting in pleasure or virtue, or both, is more often found with those who are highly cultivated in their minds and in their character, and have only a moderate share of external goods, than among those who possess external goods to a useless extent but are deficient in higher qualities.
Ovid, Metamorphoses, L. 140
Riches, the incentives to evil, are dug out of the earth.
Mark 8:36
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Matthew 19:24
And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
Luke 12:15
And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.
1 Timothy 6:10
For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
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1 HiddenThrowAwayIRL 2019-02-02
Rousseau, Discourse on the Inequality of Man
The first man, who, after enclosing a piece of ground, took it into his head to say, "This is mine," and found people simple enough to believe him, was the true founder of civil society. How many crimes, how many wars, how many murders, how many misfortunes and horrors, would that man have saved the human species, who pulling up the stakes or filling up the ditches should have cried to his fellows: Be sure not to listen to this imposter; you are lost, if you forget that the fruits of the earth belong equally to us all, and the earth itself to nobody!
Men soon ceasing to fall asleep under the first tree, or take shelter in the first cavern, lit upon some hard and sharp kinds of stone resembling spades or hatchets, and employed them to dig the ground, cut down trees, and with the branches build huts, which they afterwards bethought themselves of plastering over with clay or dirt. This was the epoch of a first revolution, which produced the establishment and distinction of families, and which introduced a species of property, and along with it perhaps a thousand quarrels and battles.
these conveniences having through use lost almost all their aptness to please, and even degenerated into real wants, the privation of them became far more intolerable than the possession of them had been agreeable; to lose them was a misfortune, to possess them no happiness.
They now begin to assemble round a great tree: singing and dancing, the genuine offspring of love and leisure, become the amusement or rather the occupation of the men and women, free from care, thus gathered together. Every one begins to survey the rest, and wishes to be surveyed himself; and public esteem acquires a value. He who sings or dances best; the handsomest, the strongest, the most dexterous, the most eloquent, comes to be the most respected: this was the first step towards inequality, and at the same time towards vice. From these first preferences there proceeded on one side vanity and contempt, on the other envy and shame; and the fermentation raised by these new leavens at length produced combinations fatal to happiness and innocence.
It was thus that every man, punishing the contempt expressed for him by others in proportion to the value he set upon himself, the effects of revenge became terrible, and men learned to be sanguinary and cruel. Such precisely was the degree attained by most of the savage nations with whom we are acquainted. And it is for want of sufficiently distinguishing ideas, and observing at how great a distance these people were from the first state of nature, that so many authors have hastily concluded that man is naturally cruel, and requires a regular system of police to be reclaimed; whereas nothing can be more gentle than he in his primitive state, when placed by nature at an equal distance from the stupidity of brutes, and the pernicious good sense of civilized man.
This period of the development of the human faculties, holding a just mean between the indolence of the primitive state, and the petulant activity of self-love, must have been the happiest and most durable epoch. The more we reflect on this state, the more convinced we shall be, that it was the least subject of any to revolutions, the best for man, and that nothing could have drawn him out of it but some fatal accident, which, for the public good, should never have happened.
In a word, as long as they undertook such works only as a single person could finish, and stuck to such arts as did not require the joint endeavours of several hands, they lived free, healthy, honest and happy, as much as their nature would admit, and continued to enjoy with each other all the pleasures of an independent intercourse; but from the moment one man began to stand in need of another's assistance; from the moment it appeared an advantage for one man to possess the quantity of provisions requisite for two, all equality vanished; property started up; labour became necessary; and boundless forests became smiling fields, which it was found necessary to water with human sweat, and in which slavery and misery were soon seen to sprout out and grow with the fruits of the earth.
It is iron and corn, which have civilized men, and ruined mankind.
1 Beazyguboo 2019-02-02
If that was in Canada the government would bend you over , pull your pants down, and fawwwk you in the ass. They view lakefront property owners as piggy banks.
1 Teppler832 2019-02-02
Cunt, the federal reserve owned and exploited by foreigners is a ticking time bomb that will inevitably blow.
Alex Jones is one of the few people who talks about this type of stuff. But continue to enjoy CNN and Fox telling you how we need to fight for Israel's latest bullshit.
1 Lussos 2019-02-02
Mate did I say anything that opposed that? All I said was working is better than living in your parents basement like you're Joe Cumia
1 Teppler832 2019-02-02
Make sure you give Mr Shekelberg a high five on Monday morning about how trashed Alex Jones over the weekend. Yay Israel.
1 Lussos 2019-02-02
I work freelance mate, nobody has give me a solution to being a leech
1 ManlyEmbrace 2019-02-02
Woke as fuck.
1 ManlyEmbrace 2019-02-02
Woke as fuck.
1 TehSamurai01 2019-02-02
Not saying that Rogan is some kind of genius, but I can't fault anybody who actually reflects on their opinions and is willing to change them when confronted with facts. I know it's not fun when the person one is arguing with starts agreeing with them, but the bigger man (or midget, in this case) admits when he is wrong.
I can't respect Alex Jones's opinion at all, because he doesn't actually have any opinions. He has shown multiple times (e.g., Pizzagate and divorce court) that he will do a complete 180° on his takes when faced with legal trouble, and his dumbass fans will do anything to justify him folding under pressure.
1 Teppler832 2019-02-02
You're a fucking moron. (((When the legal system puts clamps on you, you need to say the right things))).
No one who is truly red pilled and in public is able to completely show their power level. We all have to do this to some degree unless you're some sort of an ultra normie PC faggot. Which a lot of you might be seeing as we're on reddit.
1 CASCAI 2019-02-02
You need to go back to square one. Look at the way you talk, the words you use. You're more brainwashed than the ''normies'' you try to wake up.
1 Teppler832 2019-02-02
You're defending Joe Rogan & the Federal Reverse and you have the gall to imply someone has a level of brainwashed more than you?
1 CASCAI 2019-02-02
I don't even like him. Why did you assume I do? Nothing I wrote indicated that.
1 Teppler832 2019-02-02
That's why you're brainwashed. You don't even like these guys yet you defend them and their shitty interests.
1 CASCAI 2019-02-02
Oh you're mentally ill, I'm sorry.
1 Teppler832 2019-02-02
You're on an Opie and Anthony sub getting offended by people picking on Joe Rogan. Look in the mirror.
1 Mod_Impersonator 2019-02-02
How old are you?
1 iWhoreSchortSchorts 2019-02-02
I'm a 16 year old girl.
1 Mod_Impersonator 2019-02-02
Tits or gtfo
1 iWhoreSchortSchorts 2019-02-02
iPad or fuck off!
1 DK8044 2019-02-02
The kike brigade is down voting you
1 deep_legal_shit 2019-02-02
They're not morons, they're rationalizing their anger and sense of threat. They don't want to confess the real reasons they hate him because it would make them look weak and out of control
1 stevex42 2019-02-02
The fact that the only time Alex supposedly “admits he is fake” or whatever is when he is being squeezed by the legal system doesn’t say anything about his integrity to me. What is he supposed to start ranting about fluoride in the courtroom while he is fighting for custody of his kids?
Alex has also gone on record numerous times talking about how they (whoever they are) spend a lot of time trying to get him into court to scare him, and legally stop him from spouting his views.
1 TehSamurai01 2019-02-02
Why do you have that in quotations? He admitted, through his attorney, that he was a fake. If he genuinely believed the shit he spewed, he wouldn't back down when those beliefs become inconvenient.
He is a coward who panders to suckers for financial gain, and backs down like a bitch when faced with actual ramifications for his actions.
1 stevex42 2019-02-02
Because that’s what all the headlines are saying. It’s saying “admits he’s fake” or “claims he’s an on air character”. And you may find him disingenuous for not standing behind his beliefs when he is either in danger of losing visitation to his kids, or potentially about to be sued for millions, but I personally don’t. I’m not even one of these maniacs that believes everything he says as gospel, I’m just perceptive enough to see that there is a massive worldwide PR campaign going to silence one man, so something he’s saying must be hitting a nerve.
1 TehSamurai01 2019-02-02
Oh shut up with your nonsense. If I implied that a restaurant was involved in a child sex ring or that a school shooting was a government orchestration, I can be sued. Lying and damaging people's reputations is called libel (or slander).
If this coward was telling the truth, he wouldn't have backed down like a pussy. He has the money to fight these people, but he chose to backtrack and apologize. He has no values or stances, because be is a coward who panders to morons for money.
1 chulathedog 2019-02-02
Remember after the Vegas shooting he said he had sources on the swat saying there was antifa propaganda and posters all over the room? Sure you heard that, bud.
1 deep_legal_shit 2019-02-02
He was offered a Rush Limbaugh like gig in the early 2000s that would have paid several millions per year but he turned it down because of the restrictions they placed on what he could say on the air. So this argument doesn't square away and smells of something else.
1 TehSamurai01 2019-02-02
What does "it smell of?"
Either he is a pussy who won't back his claims out of fear of the consequences OR he is a careless moron who regurgitates lies because he lacks critical thinking.
Alex Jones has offered numerous apologies and has gone on record claiming that he is a fraud. Either he is a liar or a gullible fool.
1 deep_legal_shit 2019-02-02
Clam down
1 TehSamurai01 2019-02-02
Nice response, stupid.
1 ofimmsl 2019-02-02
to pay child support lol
1 iWhoreSchortSchorts 2019-02-02
Well if he was able to convince the judge that his wife was poisoning the kids with fluoride he would have gotten full custody.
1 Canonicald 2019-02-02
And turning the fricking frogs gay
1 LimousineLibtard 2019-02-02
Calm down big guy.
1 iWhoreSchortSchorts 2019-02-02
Agreed, Rogan's best quality is that he's a reasonable down to earth dude in an environment completely saturated by insanity.
1 chulathedog 2019-02-02
He’s not though. $100 says he doesn’t know how much a gallon of milk costs. Joe Rogan is an actor playing a comedian.
1 iWhoreSchortSchorts 2019-02-02
You're such an unbelievable faggot that it's honestly impressive. Do you like anyone besides Joe Rogan's ex producer?
1 chulathedog 2019-02-02
I don’t like anyone who Joe Rogan thinks is cool or funny
1 NguyenLevin71 2019-02-02
Milk is gross. I haven’t bought milk since I was 16 years old, and can only imagine it costs about 5 bucks a jug these days.
1 chulathedog 2019-02-02
So you don’t know how to cook basic food
1 NguyenLevin71 2019-02-02
I was sort of joking, but I don’t tolerate lactose well. Believe it or not, you can cook all sorts of things without dairy, from basic to advanced. Look into it.
1 notadegenerate2 2019-02-02
You don't do a reflection on your opinions overnight after having Alex Jones on your massively influencial show.
1 demandsteak 2019-02-02
it didn't happen overnight you dumb piece of shit lmao even the image here has a fucking 2 year gap.
1 notadegenerate2 2019-02-02
Oh yeah because the image is an accurate timeline to what's been said after that show. Swallow nigger cum fag.
1 demandsteak 2019-02-02
looooool learn to tell time
1 deep_legal_shit 2019-02-02
(((reflections)))
1 mrsirthemovie 2019-02-02
Im all for trashing Rogan, but to say that "a lot" of truth in what Alex fucking Jones says is retarded
1 SHITLORD_CUNTDICK 2019-02-02
Or he sprinkles in some truth only to keep a small foothold in reality to get rubes to defend him. He's pure carnival barker. The only "truth" he may speak is designed, like everything else he says, to make money.
1 deep_legal_shit 2019-02-02
That's right, Alex Jones is playing 4D chess
1 cQrPsE 2019-02-02
Alex Jones is a character. Ever heard him on O&A? not sure if he came on multiple times, but the time he did was fucking hilarious.
1 LimousineLibtard 2019-02-02
SHUT IT DOWN! THE GOYIM KNOW!
1 deep_legal_shit 2019-02-02
There's no question about it. Alex Jones is ridiculous, but this is still just sad to see.
1 Billyassman 2019-02-02
Wwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeed.DMT. Dumb Monumental Turd.
1 insertclevereference 2019-02-02
Wow, this post this really brought out the "agency" trolls to defend and do damage control for the Lilliputian.
They must be starting to realize his "influence" is waning.
Can't save a sinking ship boys, might as will scuttle it and find a new face.
Owen Benjamin seems to be building an army of rubes.
Co-opt him next.
1 deep_legal_shit 2019-02-02
apparently he took down his recent interview with Jack Dorsey of twitter. Alex Jones was brought up. Rogan went to the Sandy Hook talking point to frame him being banned from everywhere, and he didn't seem too concerned with painting the Sandy Hook hoax thing as a media exaggeration meant to target Jones, Joe seemed to just casually cite it as a known factor to indicate that Alex sealed his own fate, that Joe has washed his hands of him.
Joe's casual drop of "Sandy Hook" is made meaningful if you see this video from about a month ago. Alex Jones said he personally called Joe about possibly going on Joe's show and to clear up the air, and in the end Joe decided not to let him back on his podcast. With that Alex asked at least if Joe would stop repeating the Sandy Hook hoax talking point as Alex has publicly apologized and retracted his past statements about it dozens of times, and Joe went so far as to tell Alex that no, he wouldn't give him that courtesy either. His casual, dismissive mention of Jones -> Sandy Hook -> Deserved to be banned reasoning in yesterday's Jack Dorsey interview, knowing that conversation took place recently, makes Joe look pretty slimy right now
1 shimshammcgraw 2019-02-02
"Alex Jones said.." at least post the clip of him lying you fuck.
1 deep_legal_shit 2019-02-02
i put a link in there dipshit
1 CordouroyStilts 2019-02-02
Joe Rogan never said Alex SENT anyone to Sandy Hook parents houses, or to a pizza place. He said the things he says drives assholes to do that stuff.
1 deep_legal_shit 2019-02-02
SLPC said things that drove James Hodgkinsin to try to murder a bunch of republicans at a public sporting event in 2017.
1 CordouroyStilts 2019-02-02
Catcher in the Rye also gave Mark David Chapman a few ideas but it wasn't instructions.
1 deep_legal_shit 2019-02-02
Analogy that might work if Chapman took a list of people from the book and used that as his direct (not interpreted) source of targets, as Hodgkinson did with the SPLC's hate list. You're being dishonest sir, and I think you know it.
1 CordouroyStilts 2019-02-02
Not being dishonest. I just love a good Mark David Chapman reference.
I still stand by my OP. Though upon a second read it's terribly worded.
1 bonniesretardsister 2019-02-02
He has seen the new lay of the land where social media activists think giving someone a platform on your show = endorsement. So he's gone from Charles C. Johnson to Bari Weiss, who isn't even a conservative but gets called one because she said "believe all women" was ridiculous.
So it's funny, Joe always talks about how independent he is that he can do gigs anywhere anytime with his cult fan base and make money from UFC so doesn't need the mainstream. But over the last year he's sure tried to join it. He must be afraid of losing Netflix.
1 deep_legal_shit 2019-02-02
Dunno what it is but everyone can tell something happened.
(((Bari Weiss))) authored the NYT cringe fest "intellectual dark web" article that included Joe as one of them.
boiling hot take that's not a rehash at all: It's a transparent effort to deflect the edgy/subversive aura to the alt right who, like them or not, are actually possessed of some dangerous allure after being relegated to the dark web because their viewpoints get them banned from platforms and payment services. To then pose as if the dangerous stuff edgy stuff is actually over here, at NYT and big YouTube channels with a few Jews and shabbos goys, as if people couldn't smell the bullshit, is a testament to their arrogance and condescension and is backfiring spectacularly before our eyes. I think Joe has somehow got wrapped up in this as some kind of tool for these people through duress.
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1 TheUserRedditBanned 2019-02-02
Like you can ever trust a closeted fag.
They don't trust themselves.
1 UhLookHereMan 2019-02-02
it's that livin' in the closet....makes 'em devious
1 ReDMeridiaN 2019-02-02
Joe’s written Alex off just from what he’s heard second hand about the sandy hook shit. He’s like everyone else who hears that Infowars was deplatformed and just takes Apple and YouTube’s word for it it that Alex committed the unforgivable crime of “hate speech.”
1 jubbytime 2019-02-02
Joe Rogan’s hot take on most things: “Wow. That seems completely possibly. “
1 HologramChicken 2019-02-02
Now when you say the universe is flat, how many miles thick is it exactly?
1 brmlb 2019-02-02
no wonder, Joe was still trying to be cool and relate to the common man in 2017, look at the photos of mick jagger and michael jackson in the background. Then, the government finally gets to him, and he changes it to the flag of northern aggression.
1 late_50s_why 2019-02-02
Once Jones is in bed with Nana there is no point to acknowledge his existence
1 uptownshakedown 2019-02-02
Unfortunately, this brilliant meme leaves out the slight detail that Alex Jones is a fucking retard.
1 LimousineLibtard 2019-02-02
You sound like one of those frogs that the inter-dimensional shape-shifting child-molesting psychic vampires turned gay. You should find a new water source.
1 uptownshakedown 2019-02-02
I don’t see what that has to do with anything.
1 LimousineLibtard 2019-02-02
Well, it’s simple.
The water you are drinking is TURNING THE FRICKIN’ FROGS GAY! 🐸 👬
1 watermelanoma69 2019-02-02
Can’t really blame rogan... he does like 15 hrs of podcasts a week so he’s gotta fill time and he’s decent at it even if everything is about a chimp and is “fascinating”. Good podcaster but is not funny at all. Just good at repeating things
1 El_Heato 2019-02-02
Yawn. You can still find Jones, and his entertainment program, all over the internet. He wasn't "deplatformed" (buzzword loving faggots). JRE has always been a dog shit podcast for stones and people who love to watch guests babble for 3 hours without having their views challenged.
Jam that down vote button snowflakes and wipe away the tears when you read the truth.
1 fuckstartmyheartx 2019-02-02
Yeh I don't get this argument. Jones still has a very functioning website you can read/view everything he says on it. If this is what you like just exist in that world.
1 El_Heato 2019-02-02
Bunch of crybabies looking for more to cry about. Plain and simple. They don't understand the 1st amendment, they don't understand private industry or legal documents like "terms of service" and they simply don't understand that they can create their own platform at any time. Isn't America great?
1 stonepitbull141 2019-02-02
I understand that Big Tech benefits from legal immunity that newspapers and the like don't because they're supposed to be providing an open forum. Once they start banning people they don't like, "curating" content, and generally behaving like a publisher, they should be legally responsible for whatever they choose to leave up, just as a publisher would be.
1 El_Heato 2019-02-02
They aren't curating content, they are monitoring individual contributors to their private forum. Every YouTube upload is basically an opinion piece from the user. It isn't journalism or factual based reporting. Hence why my OP stated Jones was an "entertainment" channel. It's the same cop out Hannity etc use when backed against a wall. To use your analogy, no newspaper need LET someone print an OpEd stating why all Canadians should be exterminated, or why rape of children should be OK. They have the right to simply say, "Nope. Our news organization doesn't want that opinion on our platform".
1 stonepitbull141 2019-02-02
What? Of course they curate content, and it's pretty surprising anyone could think otherwise after all the uproar over fake news on social media and how they need to take responsibility for stopping the spread of it. One of the big stories about Youtube just this past week was how they're going to limit the visibility of "conspiracy" videos by altering the recommendation algorithm. Their trending tab has long promoted things they want you to see, not things that are actually organically trending. Which is why you can always find crap from network TV with low view counts there, while a lot of homegrown Youtubers who blow them out of the water with millions more views never show up there at all.
The thing that finally got Alex Jones banned from Twitter was, what? Yelling at Oliver Darcy? How is something that happens IRL (so, presumably off platform) a violation of Twitter's TOS? Their TOS doesn't even mean anything according to Jack himself in this very interview because they "don't look at speech but at conduct". Which strangely somehow means that advocating the doxxing or murder of some smirky-faced teenager is cool with them, but telling a laid off Buzzfeed writer to learn to code is bannable harassment.
1 El_Heato 2019-02-02
I'll grant you that in their struggle to "explain" away their choices they do a terrible job. They are trying to walk a tightrope that cannot be managed. They should stick to the simple, and true, answer; "This is a private, for profit, enterprise where we govern our community to our TOS and the interpretation of the TOS as we, the owners, see fit." That said, what is your solution? Government oversight and CONTROL of content? Government CONTROL of for profit private companies?
There is simply no lack of the content you, and others wish to see on the internet. There are several sites still hosting conspiracy theories, Alt Right "rhetoric" etc. I personally like using those sites more than YouTube and I don't even HAVE a Twitter account because it's fucking gay.
In conclusion, there isn't a vast conspiracy to deplatform Alt Right or Conspiracy theories. It's still widely available, but the slippery slope of government control and oversight of private sector companies is WAYYYY too far to take it.
1 stonepitbull141 2019-02-02
The government already intervened when it gave them a special exemption from litigation. Remove that, and there should be no reason to regulate them at all.
Twitter has been sued repeatedly for banning people, but the cases are always dismissed on the grounds that Section 230 gives them immunity. It's a strange world in which a federal court can rule that the president isn't allowed to block people from his own account (many of whom are engaging in what would be called straight up harassment if it were aimed at, say, Leslie Jones) because it infringes on their first amendment rights somehow, but Twitter is allowed to ban those same people from their entire platform, even if doing so cripples them professionally.
Pretty strange, too, that the corporate media constantly scream at social media companies to get rid of the shit that they don't like, and the social media companies scrape and bow and go, "Yes, massas, we's a tryin'!", and you can act like there is no concerted effort. I don't like most of that retarded shit myself, but I like being told what I can watch even less. Whether it's dictated by governments or corporations bullying other corporations through peer pressure and bad press makes little difference to me.
1 El_Heato 2019-02-02
On the other hand, 230 is used as a barrier to shield a lot of inflammatory personalities from getting in legal hot water over their "content". Can't have it both ways. You did, unfortunately, spin off into a rant about your preconceived notions on this topic that seem to be....one sided. You seem to be using the 230 argument to justify that, Yes the government SHOULD take control of YouTube and Twitter. Am I wrong? Capitalism IS profiting off of the free market. Twitter and the rest of the "leading" streaming or social media sites WANT mainstream dollars and attention. So of course when their profits are lessened by content that the overwhelming majority feel is "inappropriate" then they will remove it, them etc. The reality is: this is Capitalism, and the fringe Alt Right or whatever you want to call it and the conspiracy theory lovers are not a large enough market group.
1 BigLebowskiBot 2019-02-02
You're not wrong, Walter, you're just an asshole.
1 El_Heato 2019-02-02
I'll take it any day.
1 stonepitbull141 2019-02-02
That's the relevant text. It doesn't prevent Alex Jones being held legally responsible for what Alex Jones says. All it does it prevent Alex Jones from being held legally responsible for what users of his website say in the comments.
I don't know how you can construe anything I said to mean that I want the government to take control of Youtube and Twitter, but if I were to hazard a guess it's that you were too busy trying to read into what I'm saying to just simply read what I actually said. Which, if you'll recall, was that the more they block this and shadowban that, verify users and then remove user verification as a form of discipline, promote certain content above other content, etc., the fewer and fewer reasons there are not to treat them as a sort of publisher.
1 deep_legal_shit 2019-02-02
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/bjbp9d/do-social-media-bans-work
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/12/5/18125507/milo-yiannopoulos-debt-no-platform
1 El_Heato 2019-02-02
Both articles use Milo as their primary example. Are you using this as debate material, or letting us in on your own personal views on pedophilia?
Perhaps you would like to acknowledge that Milo "lost influence" because his Alt Right shock jock gimmick wore thin and he went too far with his zeal for kid touching.
If you want to die on the hill "The Victim Milo" please continue, it'll be easier to win just letting you proceed with that angle.
1 deep_legal_shit 2019-02-02
goes back to filing nails
1 El_Heato 2019-02-02
All too easy. 👋👋
1 deep_legal_shit 2019-02-02
No, hun.
1 deep_legal_shit 2019-02-02
from "yawn" to 5 huge paragraphs
1 El_Heato 2019-02-02
"trying to defend yourself"? Get off my nuts little guy. What exactly am I defending myself from? Hmm? You'll just run away now, like always.
1 deep_legal_shit 2019-02-02
"debate me you coward"
1 Spokker 2019-02-02
I understand all that. I'm just saying Twitter and Facebook are gay and that's before they ever banned Alex Jones.
1 notadegenerate2 2019-02-02
You dumb fuck. You dont see anything weird about a while bunch of separate entities effectively shutting him down on the same day? That's a real conspiracy right there. Start your own site: like Gab? They tried shutting and even went as far as threatening the domain hosts. Fucking shill. I can't wait til shit falls apart and you faggots kill each other for food.
1 El_Heato 2019-02-02
.....because we can't hear about chemicals in the water turning frogs gay?
Yeah, I'm the "dumb fuck". Grow up little one.
1 notadegenerate2 2019-02-02
Fuck off sodomite
1 bigtitsbeer90 2019-02-02
I like joe rogan
1 LimousineLibtard 2019-02-02
but have you ever liked Joe Rogan while doing DMT?
1 bigtitsbeer90 2019-02-02
Yes
1 LimousineLibtard 2019-02-02
AWE NOICE.
1 LimousineLibtard 2019-02-02
“So an evil couple of globalists are attempting to take over the world and enslave humanity? That’s interesting, but have you ever done DMT bro? Let’s talk about that instead bro.” - Joe Rogan
1 etmhpe 2019-02-02
Did the same shit with louie
1 rykorotez 2019-02-02
Its hard to stay loyal to crazy.
1 basedmattnigga7 2019-02-02
Sure alex is nuts but this isn’t any way to treat your “friends.”
1 xxxxxxxxx9xxxxxxxxx 2019-02-02
So you don't want to state the truth because a boomer or queer in your family will call you a Nazi? Nice backbone, stupid.
1 Teppler832 2019-02-02
Cunt, the federal reserve owned and exploited by foreigners is a ticking time bomb that will inevitably blow.
Alex Jones is one of the few people who talks about this type of stuff. But continue to enjoy CNN and Fox telling you how we need to fight for Israel's latest bullshit.
1 LimousineLibtard 2019-02-02
but have you ever liked Joe Rogan while doing DMT?
1 CASCAI 2019-02-02
I don't even like him. Why did you assume I do? Nothing I wrote indicated that.
1 Mod_Impersonator 2019-02-02
Tits or gtfo