They were the furthest thing from hacks. The reason both were somewhat overrated is that they didn’t hack it up enough. It’s okay to sometimes sprinkle in dumb, easy, obvious laughs. As Florentine would say, a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down.
Carlin's stuff holds up incredibly well, probably better than almost any comedian ever. All of his bits on you tube have like 10 million views, and most of them are young people just discovering him. Carlin is kind-of like O&A in that way. So many people discover him through you tube. Most of these old comedians don't hold up like that at all.
Its a generational thing. Carlin isn't overated I dont think. I can randomly watch his stuff still. Bill Hicks I do think is overated. I think most Bill Hicks fans come from a crossover of spergy Tool fans. I think Pryor and Dice Clay can be put on that list as well. I really don't enjoy any of that shit. Especially Dice Clay. He has never made me laugh. Every other five years I've played "Day the laughter died" thinking I would eventually get it because so many people praised it and there wasn't a laugh to be had.
Clay doesn’t really hold up but you have to compare him to what was going on at the time. Imagine seeing 3 “what’s the deal with airline peanuts” type hacks and then dice comes up. It was a revelation.
Compared to today's stand-up Carlin is fucking amazing.
I think if Bill hadn't died... that's a rough one, man. He'd either fall into the SJW shit or he'd have done a complete 180 and become borderline Nazi and would've gotten blackballed by certain segments of show business.
His bit about the sniper rifle pendant is still funny
I'll take both of them over 99% of comics today. Neither are hacks even in the slightest. Redundant? Sure, hack, no. The biggest problem with comedy today is that the only reason this PC garbage has been willing to infect everything is that all the big names caved too easily to it. Maybe if these guys were still around that could have been different. We can all agree they're funnier than Lenny Bruce right?
I'm not doubting it was probably great for it's time. But none of it holds up and I'm not quite sure it's even comedy. I bought Lenny Bruce records when I was in my late teens and I wasn't even willing to pretend to get it at that age, I doubt I would now.
Carlin’s books are amazing. Some of the content is recycled stage material but a lot of it is just these hilarious thoughtful bits that range from weird zen koans to skits to funny musings like this:
”I've also grown weary of reading about clouds in a book. Doesn't this piss you off? You're reading a nice story, and suddenly the writer has to stop and describe the clouds. Who cares? I'll bet you anything I can write a decent novel, with a good, entertaining story, and never once mention the clouds. Really! Every book you read, if there's an outdoor scene, an open window, or even a door slightly ajar, the writer has to say, "As Bo and Velma walked along the shore, the clouds hung ponderously on the horizon like steel-gray, loosely formed gorilla turds." I'm not interested. Skip the clouds and get to the fucking. The only story I know of where clouds were important was Noah's Ark.”
They’re all on YouTube as audiobooks and I highly recommend them. Bill Hicks dined out on the same two hours his whole career though so fuck him.
32 comments
1 JosefKWasArrested 2018-10-27
Agreed.
1 ElFaporino 2018-10-27
Kill yourself. Carlin is great
1 ShetUp 2018-10-27
Carlin isn't an overrated hack but he's an overrated hack's favorite comic.
1 call_me_winston 2018-10-27
a take as hot as the faggot cum in your asshole
1 etmhpe 2018-10-27
they had all the answers
1 nunyobisnez 2018-10-27
Ah the weekly post about 90's comics having dated material
1 CharlieWaflesBR 2018-10-27
Their material being dated has nothing to do with it. Just can't stand these two preachy faggots. They've always been horrendous.
1 BackstabbingSammy 2018-10-27
They were the furthest thing from hacks. The reason both were somewhat overrated is that they didn’t hack it up enough. It’s okay to sometimes sprinkle in dumb, easy, obvious laughs. As Florentine would say, a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down.
1 LaurenDoingChin-Ups 2018-10-27
I only heard him talk about ketchup.
1 ChippySez 2018-10-27
A lot of Carlin's stuff doesn't hold up particularly well, but you have to be a fucking retard to think he's a hack.
1 JoeMommma101 2018-10-27
Carlin's stuff holds up incredibly well, probably better than almost any comedian ever. All of his bits on you tube have like 10 million views, and most of them are young people just discovering him. Carlin is kind-of like O&A in that way. So many people discover him through you tube. Most of these old comedians don't hold up like that at all.
1 BoboOrbani55 2018-10-27
Carlin was hilarious before his Jersey special.
1 fo-da-fo-da-show 2018-10-27
Two of the greatest. Can be proven with math. You can still hate them and think they are fags. And they might be fags, ButstllDabessdo.
1 Vulgardervish 2018-10-27
Its a generational thing. Carlin isn't overated I dont think. I can randomly watch his stuff still. Bill Hicks I do think is overated. I think most Bill Hicks fans come from a crossover of spergy Tool fans. I think Pryor and Dice Clay can be put on that list as well. I really don't enjoy any of that shit. Especially Dice Clay. He has never made me laugh. Every other five years I've played "Day the laughter died" thinking I would eventually get it because so many people praised it and there wasn't a laugh to be had.
1 JerkStoreJ 2018-10-27
Clay doesn’t really hold up but you have to compare him to what was going on at the time. Imagine seeing 3 “what’s the deal with airline peanuts” type hacks and then dice comes up. It was a revelation.
1 Vulgardervish 2018-10-27
Yeah you really got to think of the time. I respect it for that.
1 WaterFromTheWell 2018-10-27
Dice is a better actor than he is a comedian.
1 PsychopathyRed 2018-10-27
Compared to today's stand-up Carlin is fucking amazing.
I think if Bill hadn't died... that's a rough one, man. He'd either fall into the SJW shit or he'd have done a complete 180 and become borderline Nazi and would've gotten blackballed by certain segments of show business.
His bit about the sniper rifle pendant is still funny
1 VigoTheCarpethian 2018-10-27
I think he would have gone after both of them. He hated PC culture and the religious right.
1 TheyCutMeDown 2018-10-27
Hitler had the right idea, he was just an underachiever.
1 J-Bradley1 2018-10-27
"Ratshit Batshit Dirty ol' Twat. 69 Assholes tied in a knot. Hurray, Lizard Shit, *FUCK*"
1 Fezisasmellyhomo 2018-10-27
This shit too
1 TheDreidelMan 2018-10-27
It was a bit embarrassing that they tried to pretend they were philosophers, but they weren't unfunny. They just weren't likeable at all.
1 Tlk619 2018-10-27
i love em both, Hicks more so, Ey what do I know though. Fuck me for having an opinion.
1 423289 2018-10-27
I'll take both of them over 99% of comics today. Neither are hacks even in the slightest. Redundant? Sure, hack, no. The biggest problem with comedy today is that the only reason this PC garbage has been willing to infect everything is that all the big names caved too easily to it. Maybe if these guys were still around that could have been different. We can all agree they're funnier than Lenny Bruce right?
1 WaterFromTheWell 2018-10-27
Yeah, i don't get Lenny Bruce at all.
1 423289 2018-10-27
I'm not doubting it was probably great for it's time. But none of it holds up and I'm not quite sure it's even comedy. I bought Lenny Bruce records when I was in my late teens and I wasn't even willing to pretend to get it at that age, I doubt I would now.
1 WaterFromTheWell 2018-10-27
Hannah Gadbsy of that time.
1 ChikenShit 2018-10-27
you know who's a hack, Dennis Leary
1 titsucks 2018-10-27
Christopher Lloyd and John Ritter are ok I'm my book.
1 iwasblocked 2018-10-27
Carlin’s books are amazing. Some of the content is recycled stage material but a lot of it is just these hilarious thoughtful bits that range from weird zen koans to skits to funny musings like this:
”I've also grown weary of reading about clouds in a book. Doesn't this piss you off? You're reading a nice story, and suddenly the writer has to stop and describe the clouds. Who cares? I'll bet you anything I can write a decent novel, with a good, entertaining story, and never once mention the clouds. Really! Every book you read, if there's an outdoor scene, an open window, or even a door slightly ajar, the writer has to say, "As Bo and Velma walked along the shore, the clouds hung ponderously on the horizon like steel-gray, loosely formed gorilla turds." I'm not interested. Skip the clouds and get to the fucking. The only story I know of where clouds were important was Noah's Ark.”
They’re all on YouTube as audiobooks and I highly recommend them. Bill Hicks dined out on the same two hours his whole career though so fuck him.
1 Billyassman 2018-10-27
Hey Groucho,today's secret word is Jacuzzi, but first the blow job.
1 LaurenDoingChin-Ups 2018-10-27
I only heard him talk about ketchup.
1 WaterFromTheWell 2018-10-27
Yeah, i don't get Lenny Bruce at all.