I dont understand how rape, sexual assault sexualt assault against a minor, racial tweets and questioning of a topic (norms case) all have the same punishment. These people arent as mad as they want people to believe they are. Phony outrage.
These outraged people want to lower every achievement bar across every platform so they are equal. If that means bringing down everyone around them, so be it. That's what they are trying to do. Also, many just exist to be victims.
Idt its so much that as it is, with this whole female empowerment, nobodys think theyre somebody. Teenage girls and young women feel the need to take responsibility for things that they dont need to. Eventually, itll come back around to bite them in the ass when one of their female heroes will do something bad and theyll either defend and deflect or theyll learn to be quiet in most arguments. Itll be the first one though
50 shades of grey was a success for a reason, and that book was about an abusive dude.
women are starving for structure, they want it so much they accept bad abusive situations just because they are consistent and the roles are well defined and enforced
the fact no one put these things together makes me realize their is money put into keeping these duscussions taboo
Its pathological altruism. Between a trillion dollars of aid to MENA, Latin America sucking ass and being right next door, the Western World has been voted to be brown and Islamic in the next 50 years unless the men snap the fuck out of it and start patrolling these awful catlady, pitmomma, fag-had, shout-your-abortion creeps. Any time there's a political party to stop a country from getting skid-marked and chanting Allahu Akbar, thirty percent of the men vote for it and can't get ten percent of women to back them up. The women are the BIGGEST witch-hunters and NO PERSON IS ILLEGAL refugees welcome assholes who are flushing the Western World down the toilet.
The single biggest mistake in human history was democracy and then expanding the franchise to women and ethnoreligious minorities. The West is abolishing itself one Pussy Riot and Pussy Hat a time.
This is natural for women. It's a politicized, national version of "lets you and him fight", basically inviting stronger men over to test their men, and pick the winner.
They shouldn't have the right to vote, especially for immigration policy.
It's funny that you think Western Civilization is something you're an integral, necessary, or even discrenible part of. You idiots are fucking hilarious.
Women aren't empathetic at all. I know what you're referring to but it isn't empathy. Women are selfish and only think of themselves and their children (and the meal ticket). To this day I'm not sure why they're labeled the fairer sex when they aren't.
They don't deserve to breath air. You say "fag" or "retard" and you're a seriously out of control person that needs to apologize until the end of time and really do some "soul searching".
The most obnoxious thing now and always is the people clamoring over each other to condemn Norm. “I never liked him, I just never said anything before!” Shut up. The same people who think being white and complaining about how awful white people are makes them seem more thoughtful and impressive to non-white people.
The country is now divided into two "sides" and each side's greatest pleasure is antagonizing the other. You either believe that Donald Trump is the greatest human who's ever lived or you believe straight white males are solely responsible for all injustice and oppression throughout history. Because the "entertainment business" has aligned itself with "the left" any words or opinions that aren't in perfect lockstep with the currently accepted "left wing" belief system are a horrible atrocity that must be punished.
Phony Outrage? half the faggots here were pissed off about MDE fans coming to this sub. and outside of the Chapo fans i bet none of you even know what MDE stands for
you dont think theres a difference between members of another sub coming here and putting this sub at risk of a ban is different than people reading about how Norm was happy that the MeToo movement was slowing down and felt bad about how Roseanne lost everything in one day?
It doesn't help that we all click their bullshit links. They publish horseshit like this and only like 5% of the people reading it are actually "outraged" or "offended" or at least pretending to be very loudly. The other 95% are just people reading it and thinking to themselves "well that's very downsy". The problem is everyone clicked it.
It's unfounded outrage, but they are earnest about it(Aside from the muckety-mucks cynically using it for power jockeying). During Norm's interview with Howard, Norm mentioned how Fallon's female staff and producers were crying.
As soon as I heard this part, it seemed clear Norm was being Puckish to mock the initial overreaction he was there to defend. Does anyone remember laughter, ffs?
No. Archive.is is a known white supremacist site. We also credit our sources and respect the author. Not sure how you guys did it at MDE, but we aren't thieving niggers here.
Deadline is mostly okay compared to most of the other sjw shit factories masquerading as news sites. They mostly cover Hollywood business stories from a more balanced perspective than the competition. Of course, when they do address something like the Norm kerfuffle, they're obligated to include obligatory editorializing about his comments to Hoo Hoo being "tone deaf."
“Then Jimmy came back in, said can I talk to you buddy?”, Macdonald said. “He was very broken up about it, he said ‘I don’t know what to do..it’s just that I have so much pressure, people are crying. Senior producers are crying.’
What the fuck is happening to the world? High level staff on one American television's flagship programs are in tears because Norm said in an interview he's glad #metoo "slowed down a bit"? The people in my life with genuine mental illness aren't even that volatile.
Shocking that Norm didn't go out of his way to make time for a Jim & Sam appearance. It really would've provided a wealth of exposure for his new project. He must've been afraid they were going to grill him with tough questions about introducing insensitive comments into today's culture.
Im a huge Norm fan, but he really did amazingly horrible on Stern. Like i'd rate it a 9 out of 11 on the shitty scale. He was obviously on anxiety meds, you can always tell because he forgets words and struggles to find replacements. Stern said he loved the podcast when it was on Youtube, so Norm recites jokes he's done on it, to the fake laugh of everyone. Nobody fake laughed louder than that cunt egret though. Fuck him. He also mentioned the Netflix boss way too many times, like who is that supposed to help?! Norm going on about their great personal friendship is going to make it impossible for that guy to work behind the scenes now, as not to appear incredibly biased. Fuck, he might even be forced to executive produce the show out of existence just so he can seem unbiased and professional.
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Also, he did the idiotic thing of claiming that the reporters might have dishonestly edited his answers. Which is a risky moves in case they didnt, and they can show the transcripts, making norm a close to a liar in truth, and a liar to the media that already hates him now. Lets not forget, Norm always does horrible in print, as Stern confronted Norm some time ago when he had said that Stern encouraged Artie's drug fueled degeneracy. You would think at his advanced age, Norm would be ready for some more mainstream success, but true to form he just cannot fucking help himself.
The outrage is so laughably fake. These people are so simple-minded. They just decide if someone is good or bad, and there are no degrees of goodness or badness. A rapist is the same as Hitler is the same as someone who writes a mean tweet.
Maybe if those female Fallon producers who were crying at the prospect of Norm appearing on the tonight show got punched in the faces until their noses broke, maybe then they would realize how silly it is to cry over Norm appearing on your shitty fucking show.
Norm has apparently talked about liking an author who is arguably fascist but too obscure to cause controversy. But yeah, he's definitely not publicly political
He's just a straight-up comic. Everything about him his funny - voice, delivery, jokes, conversation, etc. That's why he's the best. But sure, he does like Trump and despise leftists, clearly, especially the Clintons, but he rarely talks about it. And who fucking cares. Let him do his job and make people laugh. These media activists just fuck up everything good.
LOL they wrote an article solely to publish a headline to rat him out for saying "Down syndrome" holy fucking shit 2018 is insane. He didn't even say retard. In fact this story makes The fact that he used that term even more hilarious.
Her current desire to not interact with someone occluded all past possibility of vaguely knowing a former SNL member - what a disingenous, dumb "intellectual".
Then Jimmy came back in, said can I talk to you buddy?”, Macdonald said. “He was very broken up about it, he said ‘I don’t know what to do..it’s just that I have so much pressure, people are crying. Senior producers are crying.’
You'd think that some vastly influential and very important societal guru made the comments in question and not barely-coherent comedian Norm McDonald. next they'll go after Carrot Top for the implied symbolic phallic overtones in his name. They won't be happy until every "comedian" is a fat "woman of color" blubbering about the time she got diddled when she was twelve.
113 comments
1 SwollenPeckas 2018-09-12
I only caught a minute of the interview on Howard this morning. They were too busy blowing each other to actually conduct an interview so I bailed.
You're a genius, Norm!
No, You're a genius Howard!
Suck my cock.
1 deanthecleanmachine 2018-09-12
I dont understand how rape, sexual assault sexualt assault against a minor, racial tweets and questioning of a topic (norms case) all have the same punishment. These people arent as mad as they want people to believe they are. Phony outrage.
1 terpin 2018-09-12
They just want to feel powerful and important without actually earning it.
1 lispychicken 2018-09-12
These outraged people want to lower every achievement bar across every platform so they are equal. If that means bringing down everyone around them, so be it. That's what they are trying to do. Also, many just exist to be victims.
1 Mikekekeke 2018-09-12
Hey buster, a girl that works at a nail salon should totally earn the same as her surgeon husband.
1 thggana 2018-09-12
The hypothetical example you chose neatly demonstrates your emotional maturity level.
1 htownnucca 2018-09-12
Harrison Bergeron
1 AOTV88 2018-09-12
Women need less power. Their autistic empathy is bringing down the western world.
1 deanthecleanmachine 2018-09-12
Idt its so much that as it is, with this whole female empowerment, nobodys think theyre somebody. Teenage girls and young women feel the need to take responsibility for things that they dont need to. Eventually, itll come back around to bite them in the ass when one of their female heroes will do something bad and theyll either defend and deflect or theyll learn to be quiet in most arguments. Itll be the first one though
1 PocketSurprises 2018-09-12
Easy there Incelio
1 herpacin 2018-09-12
Know how we know you are gay?
1 AOTV88 2018-09-12
Incel is the new hot trendy insult. All the cool kids are using it.
1 anitathequeef 2018-09-12
They added some spicy LatinX flavor to it, doubleplus good burn.
1 a-corsican-pimp 2018-09-12
It's the evolution of the insult for "men who don't comply". It went from:
Pick up artist
Red piller
Alt-right
Incel
Who knows what flavor it will be next week.
1 enzo_trash 2018-09-12
i think its funny no one ever even discusses the idea maybe women shouldnt vote
bring it up around a girl, its hilarious
1 Coondoon 2018-09-12
I regularly say it to women.
Some kinda like it, i pretend to not be serious.
1 enzo_trash 2018-09-12
50 shades of grey was a success for a reason, and that book was about an abusive dude.
women are starving for structure, they want it so much they accept bad abusive situations just because they are consistent and the roles are well defined and enforced
the fact no one put these things together makes me realize their is money put into keeping these duscussions taboo
1 anitathequeef 2018-09-12
Interloper
1 HoagieErocktion 2018-09-12
It's mainly their lack of logical thinking. Women are overgrown children.
1 Superbad415 2018-09-12
Autistic and over-empathy don’t make sense together. Autistic people have troubling showing empathy. You’re an idiot
1 vaselineeater 2018-09-12
What an autistic reply
1 Superbad415 2018-09-12
Take it from me then
1 AOTV88 2018-09-12
Autistic as in myopically focused to the detriment of themselves and others. Ya autistic retard.
1 Superbad415 2018-09-12
That’s a made up definition of autism. But gotcha. 👍🏻
1 BeerCanThick 2018-09-12
Its pathological altruism. Between a trillion dollars of aid to MENA, Latin America sucking ass and being right next door, the Western World has been voted to be brown and Islamic in the next 50 years unless the men snap the fuck out of it and start patrolling these awful catlady, pitmomma, fag-had, shout-your-abortion creeps. Any time there's a political party to stop a country from getting skid-marked and chanting Allahu Akbar, thirty percent of the men vote for it and can't get ten percent of women to back them up. The women are the BIGGEST witch-hunters and NO PERSON IS ILLEGAL refugees welcome assholes who are flushing the Western World down the toilet.
The single biggest mistake in human history was democracy and then expanding the franchise to women and ethnoreligious minorities. The West is abolishing itself one Pussy Riot and Pussy Hat a time.
1 a-corsican-pimp 2018-09-12
This is natural for women. It's a politicized, national version of "lets you and him fight", basically inviting stronger men over to test their men, and pick the winner.
They shouldn't have the right to vote, especially for immigration policy.
1 thggana 2018-09-12
It's funny that you think Western Civilization is something you're an integral, necessary, or even discrenible part of. You idiots are fucking hilarious.
1 Nah_Ming 2018-09-12
Women aren't empathetic at all. I know what you're referring to but it isn't empathy. Women are selfish and only think of themselves and their children (and the meal ticket). To this day I'm not sure why they're labeled the fairer sex when they aren't.
1 MuddahSockCuckah 2018-09-12
I'm truly surprised you aren't an MDE refugee.
1 TheGhostOfAbeVigoda 2018-09-12
Well said, Deaniel Day Lewis.
1 deanthecleanmachine 2018-09-12
Now this one, I like
1 AnthonysGunFauxPas 2018-09-12
They don't deserve to breath air. You say "fag" or "retard" and you're a seriously out of control person that needs to apologize until the end of time and really do some "soul searching".
1 TheElDan 2018-09-12
The most obnoxious thing now and always is the people clamoring over each other to condemn Norm. “I never liked him, I just never said anything before!” Shut up. The same people who think being white and complaining about how awful white people are makes them seem more thoughtful and impressive to non-white people.
1 satanssockpuppet 2018-09-12
The country is now divided into two "sides" and each side's greatest pleasure is antagonizing the other. You either believe that Donald Trump is the greatest human who's ever lived or you believe straight white males are solely responsible for all injustice and oppression throughout history. Because the "entertainment business" has aligned itself with "the left" any words or opinions that aren't in perfect lockstep with the currently accepted "left wing" belief system are a horrible atrocity that must be punished.
1 SWIMsfriend 2018-09-12
Phony Outrage? half the faggots here were pissed off about MDE fans coming to this sub. and outside of the Chapo fans i bet none of you even know what MDE stands for
1 deanthecleanmachine 2018-09-12
you dont think theres a difference between members of another sub coming here and putting this sub at risk of a ban is different than people reading about how Norm was happy that the MeToo movement was slowing down and felt bad about how Roseanne lost everything in one day?
1 HookerMouth82 2018-09-12
What does MDE stand for?
1 ADoucheNamedBag 2018-09-12
Million Dollar Extreme
1 Superbad415 2018-09-12
Realistically people are just having fun conflicting and trying to one up each other. It’s more of a pissing contest
1 anitathequeef 2018-09-12
If they were putting effort into their digs at MDE that'd be fine, but they weren't.
1 maynardsabeast 2018-09-12
It doesn't help that we all click their bullshit links. They publish horseshit like this and only like 5% of the people reading it are actually "outraged" or "offended" or at least pretending to be very loudly. The other 95% are just people reading it and thinking to themselves "well that's very downsy". The problem is everyone clicked it.
1 anitathequeef 2018-09-12
I agree. Let's frot as a mea culpa and be besties.
1 anitathequeef 2018-09-12
It's unfounded outrage, but they are earnest about it(Aside from the muckety-mucks cynically using it for power jockeying). During Norm's interview with Howard, Norm mentioned how Fallon's female staff and producers were crying.
1 Taureg01 2018-09-12
Imagine crying because someone expressed sympathy for their friend in a bad situation.
1 commissarjb 2018-09-12
I really hope Netflix doesn't overreact. Been waiting months for this show to have this drama with days to go is ridiculous.
1 Mintwa 2018-09-12
They will can his show. Calling it right now.
1 Peckas1 2018-09-12
Norm sucks for removing his older youtube shows.
1 David_Tosk 2018-09-12
this is great pr for him. the world had forgotten about him
1 beier5 2018-09-12
please no
1 a-corsican-pimp 2018-09-12
I hope they won't, but they absolutely will. Netflix is full of progressive fags.
1 PresidentJonStewart 2018-09-12
They won't. Loser deletes his username.
1 Patmcpsu 2018-09-12
It will be great when all the liberals boycott Netflix because of Norm and all the conservatives boycott Netflix because of Obama.
1 anitathequeef 2018-09-12
He mentioned he's developed a personal friendship with one of the Netflix execs, maybe that will help.
1 commissarjb 2018-09-12
As long as they hold out for a few days, it'll blow over. I'm hoping that personal friendship buys him the time to get that.
1 TriangleDimes 2018-09-12
Norm is the greatest.
1 Randal_X2 2018-09-12
As soon as I heard this part, it seemed clear Norm was being Puckish to mock the initial overreaction he was there to defend. Does anyone remember laughter, ffs?
1 throwawizzlemahnizzl 2018-09-12
No, my health doesn't allow it
1 Brokenbatmancowl 2018-09-12
Norm rules.
1 Sam_Hyde_2020 2018-09-12
somebody post an archive link so these vultures don't get any page clicks
1 AOTV88 2018-09-12
No. Archive.is is a known white supremacist site. We also credit our sources and respect the author. Not sure how you guys did it at MDE, but we aren't thieving niggers here.
1 0o-0-o0 2018-09-12
That is the stupidest thing I've read in at least two years.
1 aRTie02150 2018-09-12
Did someone say "You're a smart fella" to you two years ago?
1 enzo_trash 2018-09-12
whats MDE?
is that like MDMA?
1 AOTV88 2018-09-12
Mandingo Deep Enema. Basically a cuckold sub.
1 enzo_trash 2018-09-12
/r/eyebleach
hashtag nsfl
1 anitathequeef 2018-09-12
Interloper
1 AOTV88 2018-09-12
My joke bombd
1 jofreal 2018-09-12
Deadline is mostly okay compared to most of the other sjw shit factories masquerading as news sites. They mostly cover Hollywood business stories from a more balanced perspective than the competition. Of course, when they do address something like the Norm kerfuffle, they're obligated to include obligatory editorializing about his comments to Hoo Hoo being "tone deaf."
1 marklarsen 2018-09-12
What the fuck is happening to the world? High level staff on one American television's flagship programs are in tears because Norm said in an interview he's glad #metoo "slowed down a bit"? The people in my life with genuine mental illness aren't even that volatile.
1 BrothamanB5010 2018-09-12
He's right aswell, it was getting ridiculous with accusations without any proof destroying people's careers.
1 Patmcpsu 2018-09-12
It really jumped the shark with Aziz
1 a-corsican-pimp 2018-09-12
It's weird how that seemed to be the turning point.
1 moleguy9k 2018-09-12
This is what happens when you let women go outside.
1 SWIMsfriend 2018-09-12
it all started to go to shit when World Peace got canceled
1 optimus187 2018-09-12
The hero we need
1 Patmcpsu 2018-09-12
He’s going to be more of a martyr than a hero
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1 xodch 2018-09-12
Holy shit
1 jofreal 2018-09-12
Shocking that Norm didn't go out of his way to make time for a Jim & Sam appearance. It really would've provided a wealth of exposure for his new project. He must've been afraid they were going to grill him with tough questions about introducing insensitive comments into today's culture.
1 AntsCurls 2018-09-12
Norm MacDONEald
1 Spokker 2018-09-12
They are going to take his cieling fan.
1 OAUK 2018-09-12
I really hope Norm strikes back. He really is such a clever guy and could run circles around any Sady Doyle-type
1 Ilovemesomereddit123 2018-09-12
Will you go to the dance with me? Sady Hawkins yuma
1 Pepsiarizonasquirt 2018-09-12
Fucking outrage culture robbed us of this goddamn it all to hell
1 GraveJ 2018-09-12
Really sad to see Norm bending the knee. I think he needs the money so won't jeopardise his new show.
1 Gr8Chan 2018-09-12
Im a huge Norm fan, but he really did amazingly horrible on Stern. Like i'd rate it a 9 out of 11 on the shitty scale. He was obviously on anxiety meds, you can always tell because he forgets words and struggles to find replacements. Stern said he loved the podcast when it was on Youtube, so Norm recites jokes he's done on it, to the fake laugh of everyone. Nobody fake laughed louder than that cunt egret though. Fuck him. He also mentioned the Netflix boss way too many times, like who is that supposed to help?! Norm going on about their great personal friendship is going to make it impossible for that guy to work behind the scenes now, as not to appear incredibly biased. Fuck, he might even be forced to executive produce the show out of existence just so he can seem unbiased and professional.
​
Also, he did the idiotic thing of claiming that the reporters might have dishonestly edited his answers. Which is a risky moves in case they didnt, and they can show the transcripts, making norm a close to a liar in truth, and a liar to the media that already hates him now. Lets not forget, Norm always does horrible in print, as Stern confronted Norm some time ago when he had said that Stern encouraged Artie's drug fueled degeneracy. You would think at his advanced age, Norm would be ready for some more mainstream success, but true to form he just cannot fucking help himself.
1 HvinFunOnTheInternet 2018-09-12
The benzos are gonna destroy his career faster than the SJWs
1 anitathequeef 2018-09-12
He claimed Vulture editorialized and selectively edited their piece, not the original (Hollywood Reporter?) article.
1 throwawaymanthrows 2018-09-12
The outrage is so laughably fake. These people are so simple-minded. They just decide if someone is good or bad, and there are no degrees of goodness or badness. A rapist is the same as Hitler is the same as someone who writes a mean tweet.
1 RapistWithHIV 2018-09-12
Most of these frumpy college chicks have never even fucking heard of Norm, but they absolutely know that he is a bad man.
1 DickSlit 2018-09-12
Maybe if those female Fallon producers who were crying at the prospect of Norm appearing on the tonight show got punched in the faces until their noses broke, maybe then they would realize how silly it is to cry over Norm appearing on your shitty fucking show.
1 enzo_trash 2018-09-12
someone said “down syndrome” and someone else writes an article chastising the person who said “down syndrome”
1 AntsCurls 2018-09-12
Dwn sndrome
1 Patmcpsu 2018-09-12
He should have said Up Syndrome orsumptin
1 misstheolddaysfan 2018-09-12
Yeah, he's done. That one he wont be able to back out of.
1 consensualsexnovd 2018-09-12
The Norm worship around here is misguided. https://mobile.twitter.com/normmacdonald/status/1039661638629187585?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet He's already said he's "deeply sorry." He made the Down syndrome joke to try and save face and play both sides. Quite worm-esque really and hack edginess.
1 AOTV88 2018-09-12
Nana didn't say sorry and look what happened to him.
1 consensualsexnovd 2018-09-12
They're both twitter addicted right wing fags
1 AOTV88 2018-09-12
Yes, Norm is a major player on the right.
1 AntsCurls 2018-09-12
Norm has apparently talked about liking an author who is arguably fascist but too obscure to cause controversy. But yeah, he's definitely not publicly political
1 AOTV88 2018-09-12
He's just a straight-up comic. Everything about him his funny - voice, delivery, jokes, conversation, etc. That's why he's the best. But sure, he does like Trump and despise leftists, clearly, especially the Clintons, but he rarely talks about it. And who fucking cares. Let him do his job and make people laugh. These media activists just fuck up everything good.
1 anitathequeef 2018-09-12
Who is the author? My bookclub needs be content.
1 anitathequeef 2018-09-12
How can you look at yourself in the mirror after using such homo phobic language? This is a community for bottoms and trans-chasers.
1 maynardsabeast 2018-09-12
You're trying way too hard. Stfu
1 consensualsexnovd 2018-09-12
Gay
1 anitathequeef 2018-09-12
Interloper
1 maynardsabeast 2018-09-12
LOL they wrote an article solely to publish a headline to rat him out for saying "Down syndrome" holy fucking shit 2018 is insane. He didn't even say retard. In fact this story makes The fact that he used that term even more hilarious.
1 bigchair 2018-09-12
Holy shit how did our country come to this, it's embarrassing how offended people pretend to be.
1 Brandy_Buck 2018-09-12
I fucking hate what our society is devolving into. Rome needs to burn once again. Or mighty yahweh smites the fuck out of us Sodom & Gomorah style.
Norm is the final line in the sand against these groveling SJW bottom-feeders, this is now a full scale war for freedom of expression!
1 Trueduhtective 2018-09-12
https://twitter.com/Hannahgadsby/status/1039659713057644545
1 AOTV88 2018-09-12
Eh, tough to hate a comedy revolutionary like Gadsby.
1 anitathequeef 2018-09-12
Her current desire to not interact with someone occluded all past possibility of vaguely knowing a former SNL member - what a disingenous, dumb "intellectual".
1 HvinFunOnTheInternet 2018-09-12
White women are ruining society
1 JimmyMcNultyKU 2018-09-12
I hope Norm’s show kicks the shit out of the Nanette “special” numbers wise
1 satanssockpuppet 2018-09-12
You'd think that some vastly influential and very important societal guru made the comments in question and not barely-coherent comedian Norm McDonald. next they'll go after Carrot Top for the implied symbolic phallic overtones in his name. They won't be happy until every "comedian" is a fat "woman of color" blubbering about the time she got diddled when she was twelve.
1 CMsGreenScreen 2018-09-12
Norm is extremely lovable. Seriously attacking such and un-serious person is ridiculous, and even the masses have to see through it
1 LarryKleist711 2018-09-12
"Senior producers are crying." Yuck. Where the fuck is ISIS or Ted Kaczynski when you need them?
1 Superbad415 2018-09-12
Take it from me then
1 commissarjb 2018-09-12
As long as they hold out for a few days, it'll blow over. I'm hoping that personal friendship buys him the time to get that.