Ron and Gail are looking good.

That's Cosmo. He's chinese.

Sister Christian...

Jews

JIAN-YANG!!!

Looks like Ron and Anthony had a baby

Kid had some major DSL's. They would have loved him in Pelican Bay.

They’d have given his face a good Rodgering.

he went on an incel-driven rampage 3 months before tinder became popular.

And actually had all the money in the world. Hahahaha

Are you implying that tinder hasn’t drastically increased inceldom? It’s basically Hypergamy: the App. The percentage of sexually inactive men has skyrocketed since tinder.

What? Explain yourself, you lunatic.

how..how does anyone not know this? hookup culture and hookup apps in particular create a situation where a smaller and smaller percentage of men are getting a larger and larger share of the women. Thus, more incels than ever before.

See for yourself. Notice how the male and female lines diverge to an unprecedented distance starting in 2011 (which just happens to be when tinder started).

Ok. I’ll bite. Maybe so, but your talking about hot, hot women.

What about the ol’ meat market mentality where, sure you can’t fuck a ten, but you can get your dick wet in a 5 just like the old days. That’s the other edge of the incel sword. They are picky, critical little baby boys, and don’t take what they can get and deserve based on their general outlook, lifestyle and demeanor.

I’m in a relationship, and have absolutely zero problem cheating any time I want if I am observant and easy going and NOT PICKY.

There’s still lonely desperate pigs out there, sir.

Also, how/why you know so much about this?

Also, also, how hideous are you?

Baby boy incels.

Ok. I’ll bite. Maybe so, but your talking about hot, hot women. What about the ol’ meat market mentality where, sure you can’t fuck a ten, but you can get your dick wet in a 5 just like the old days. That’s the other edge of the incel sword. They are picky, critical little baby boys, and don’t take what they can get and deserve based on their general outlook, lifestyle and demeanor. I’m in a relationship, and have absolutely zero problem cheating any time I want if I am observant and easy going and NOT PICKY. There’s still lonely desperate pigs out there, sir.

You’re simply wrong. So, so wrong. Incels have way lower standards than the average man. Hypergamy shifts the goals of all women significantly upwards. There’s even some data to suggest that average looking women actually hook up with the top 20% of men more often these days than really hot women (an idea known as juggernaut theory). But even setting that aside, the end result is that average and ugly men are having an extremely difficult time getting their looksmatches (average and ugly women). This is more or less what hypergamy refers to. You’re just not paying attention if you don’t think something like what I’ve described is happening.

Also, how/why you know so much about this?

I’ve been incel for the better part of a year. But I was aware of a lot of this before I became incel.

Baby boy incels.

Again, our standards are more reasonable than those of most men. I’m attracted to probably 80% of non-black women.

Then go fuck, faggot.

...do you know what incel stands for?

You’re insane.

Do you live in a American or European metro area?

Maybe just sheer volume or lack there of is your issue.

Same thing. Stop calling yourself an incel and do something about it and change your life. Stop blaming the media like the minorities do

Same thing as what?

Correction. Sorry. I didn’t mean to bruise your baby boy incel ego. I don’t want you driving a van into a crowd or whatever you creeps do.

Get over yourself! Stop feeling sorry for yourself and go fuck, faggot.

You didn’t brusie my ego. I just wanted to clarify that you know that the “in” in incel stands for “involuntary” because you strike me as possibly being some old boomer or Gen Xer who doesn’t know any of this shit. Not exactly ego-boosting to admit that nobody wants to fuck you but it is what it is.

Stop being the way you’re being.

I started going down this rabbit hole AFTER many months of no sex. The incelposting was caused by the lack of sex. Not the other way around. That’s pretty much the case for all incels.

Dude, I am a millennial who works in an office and lives in the city. The opposite of what you are framing me as. You’re probably older than me.

I said possibly. Just the impression I got. And you’re making some assumptions about me as well, and not couching them by saying “possibly” like I did. I really don’t know what your life is like, but you don’t know what mine is like either.

Sounds shitty, possibly.

I have a cousin who’s like 20 and is an ugly, goofy, chubby looking fuck and has a hot Puerto Rican girlfriend.

A.J. and Blanca?

Basically, actually.

hot Puerto Rican girlfriend

False, All Puerto Ricans look like an ugly foot. All the northeast manbabies keep that false narrative alive so they won't get goofed on for fucking pedro serrano in a wig.

I’m left coast, hoe.

It’s YOU and your horrible attitude and outlook.

My incel attitude must have somehow gone back in time then, because again, the autistic incel obsession came after months of no sex, not the other way around.

How about instead of sitting on the subreddit of a radio show that’s been defunct for 5 years, ranting about being an incel, you go outside?

You’re post on this subreddit more than me.

I just stated I work long hours in an office setting.

Also, I’m trying to woo u/Bams_seed and fly her out to smash.

Now she only sends me feet pics. :(

Interesting fact: there's a profession known as "prostitution," where women will fuck you if you pay them money. It exists virtually everywhere on Earth and, thanks to the wonders of the internet, doesn't even require you to leave your house. If it's simply a matter of getting your dick wet, there's the solution. Your celibacy is not "involuntary."

If it's simply a matter of getting your dick wet

It’s not. I’ve got the numbers of 4 or 5 whores from back when Craigslist still had personals that I could plow if all I cared about was the physical act of fucking.

Your celibacy is not "involuntary."

Ok fine. if no man can be involuntarily celibate because hookers exist, call it whatever else you want. The exact term used doesn’t matter.

I'll grant you, "men-who-blame-their-unfuckability-on-society-instead-of-making-any-sort-of-effort-at-self-improvement-cel" doesn't roll off the tongue very easily.

A lot of incels looksmatch, which is basically doing anything and everything to make themselves as fuckable as possible. Some spend thousands on it.

Instead of shoveling money over to PUAs and the like, some regular old therapy to improve their social skills would be more likely do the trick.

Oh PUAs are a straight-up scam. I (and almost all of the incels) agree with you there.

Can’t fix your rotten, boring personality and attitude.

Can’t fix your rotten, boring personality and attitude.

But earlier you said...

Stop being the way you’re being.

...and suggested that’s all I had to do to get laid. So can a person change their personality or not?

I was going to go down this road but this creep just wants to cry because super models aren’t lining up to rim him, because he thinks he deserves it.

No one owes you shit.

This. I've never had a problem getting laid because I've never had an issue with paying for sex, whether it's your standard hooker or even paying a college girl a couple hundred through a sugar daddy site. Either way, it's a great time to be alive and never been easier to get pussy. I'm an average looking guy with an OK personality and I do fine.

every time you type "baby boy" it makes you look like an enormous faggot.

That’s what I was going for.

Goddamn it. I actually feel bad for you.

Even married or “in a relationship” women are on the market for a quick fuck if they are miserable.

I’m not denying the whorishness of women (in fact, the graph I posted earlier clearly shows that women are getting sex outside their marriages at a much higher rate than men). Sure, they’re on the market. Doesn’t say anything about who on the market gets them.

I was with you until

Incels have way lower standards than the average man

Bullshit. That's exactly the opposite of truth. Those creeps feel entitled to girls WAY out of their league and they're unwilling to improve themselves to get them.

I would be thrilled to fuck Amy Schumer or Landau’s wife. That shoild give you an idea of how not-picky I am.

I believe you but I don't believe that's the norm for incels.

Maybe not. I don’t know.

Dude.....seriously?

I’m really not picky at all. I don’t like black women and legitimately morbidly obese women. That’s about it.

Those creeps feel entitled to girls WAY out of their league and they're unwilling to improve themselves to get them.

*citation needed

You're either a great troll or this is something pandemic

It’s the latter. Don’t believe everything on incel forums—some of it is dumb—but lurk on them for a while and you’ll find that a lot of it corresponds with what you see around you.

It's almost as if the media are purposely making incels look as awful as possible because they're this seasons new "active shooter boogeyman".

which is funny considering they are 100% capable of pulling that type of shit (Elliot) so they're just gassing the fire.

then again the media loves school shootings so it makes sense.

Change your life and you won't be an incel. Doesn't matter how ugly you are if you get sun, workout,clean yourself well and spend some time getting decent clothes, as a man you can still become very fuckabls

“Just X bro”

sure you can’t fuck a ten, but you can get your dick wet in a 5 just like the old days

Those uggos also just fuck hot guys. There are enough manwhores willing to fuck anything that they will fuck those women too.

Also using Norton words doesnt help your argument considering the ladies you cheat on your nordic princesses with most likely have a penis

So become the manwhore. ?

Stop being Jim Norton you dumb faggot

Are you a cuckold victim too?

sort of.

Are you a virgin?

No.

Volcel

Sure doesn’t feel that way. But I don’t care too much about the semantics of it all. I’m in a bad situation sexually speaking that shares many commonalities with inceldom. Call it what you will.

I’m a femcel.

A woman who can’t get laid?

Well I’d rather have a boyfriend but I am very agoraphobic and can’t leave my house.

I’ve been there. I’m still a homebody and have trouble dating because of it, due to the fact that few other people enjoy staying in as much as I do. But I used to be even worse.

Hi, just curious how you found this sub (as a shy FA woman) ? Pm if you want

I listen to old shows

This isn't a result of hookup culture. Shit has always been that way.

Average to below-average looking guys have relationship sex (which makes senses. Why would a girl hookup with some 300 pound neckbeard?). Above-average looking guys can fuck around. It's never not been like that.

All tinder has done is make this easier for women, and bring it to the attention of men who may not have previously known.

But the number of girls hooking up is astronomically smaller than the number of girls in relationships/wanting to be in relationships. It just isn't easy when the majority of the male population consists of unfuckable/undateable nerds.

This isn't a result of hookup culture. Shit has always been that way. Average to below-average looking guys have relationship sex (which makes sense. Why would a girl hookup with some 300 pound neckbeard?). Above-average looking guys can fuck around. It's never not been like that.

So alpha fux, beta bux basically? And sure, while women might have secretly had this dual-attraction before the rise of hookup culture, hookup culture has allowed this phenomenon to play out more in reality. I don’t see how you can say it hasn’t.

All tinder has done is make this easier for women (hence the rise on the chart),

Sure....That’s the whole point....

and bring it to the attention of men who may not have previously known.

Yes.....

But the number of girls hooking up is astronomically smaller than the number of girls in relationships/wanting to be in relationships.

No. You suck at interpreting data. Whether the bare majority of women want hookups or relationships, I can’t say (I suspect most women probably want to have their cake and eat it too). But the data shows that an increasing number of women (might still be the minority, but they’re increasing) are choosing hookups with Chads over relationships with their looksmatches.

On the graph, the number of sexless females actually hasn’t gone down that much. It’s the number of sexless males and the differential between that number and the number of sexless females that have increased to an unprecedented level. An increase or decrease in just relationship sex would show a rise or fall for both lines simultaneously, as relationships are generally monogamous and contain an equal number of males and females. But if about the same number of females are having sex at the same time that a drastically decreased number of men are having sex, that can only happen if momogamous relationships are becoming less common and women are seeking sex more and more in nonmonogamous ways, AND with a smaller and smaller number of men (and, as you’ve already stated, when they have casual sex, they go for looks). That’s what incels argue. The data shows that the trend is correct. You can only argue that the degree or extent isn’t as great as incels think. But you can’t deny the trend.

It just isn't easy [for women to enter relationships] when the majority of the male population consists of unfuckable/undateable nerds.

I thought you said women were more lenient in their attractiveness standards for relationship sex?

Go to a public place and look around. 95% of the guys are messes.

I don’t think so—I think most men are average looking—but women agree with you. Studies show that they rate something like 80% of men as below average looking (which would be impossible if women had realistic standards, unless maybe we’re using mean rather than median, and if there are some major outliers shifting the mean upwards). And that’s the whole point of the incel argument. If women want to date/fuck, and if they’re increasingly coming to see only a small minority of men as dateable/fuckable, you end up with fewer and fewer men getting more and more women. Logic dictates it. The data shows it. Lived experience validates it.

"I’ve been there. I’m still a homebody and have trouble dating because of it, due to the fact that few other people enjoy staying in as much as I do. But I used to be even worse."

That's a quote of yours from this thread, so something tells me like the majority of redpill/mgtow/incel guys, you base your "experiences" around what you read on the internet. I discovered TRP in high school and did the same shit. Suddenly, women were evil because a bunch of people on the internet said so. That's the majority of anti-women groups IMO. Just guys who really don't have a lot of experience. I could obviously be wrong in our case but I honestly believe that's most of you. Because I was the same way when I was younger.

TRP obsession with Chad makes zero sense. How often do you encounter a Chad? How many Chads are out there? It sure as shit isn't 20% of men. But let's say that it is. Logistically, how can 20% of the male population be fucking 80% of women? The numbers don't possibly make sense. So do 20% of guys just bang 24/7? They would have to in order for that math to work out.

Don't you have friends/family who are in relationships? Almost everyone I know is dating, engaged, or married. These are average guys. So 80% of their girls are cheating on them, right? It's fucking nonsense.

Most really good-looking/successful guys are in relationships. Most of them have "bluepill" tendencies and tend to fall way harder for girls than normal guys. Real life isn't a frat. People work/have hobbies/have families/etc. Life isn't a fuckfest.

That's a quote of yours from this thread, so something tells me like the majority of redpill/mgtow/incel guys, you base your "experiences" around what you read on the internet. I discovered TRP in high school and did the same shit. Suddenly, women were evil because a bunch of people on the internet said so. That's the majority of anti-women groups IMO. Just guys who really don't have a lot of experience. I could obviously be wrong in our case but I honestly believe that's most of you. Because I was the same way when I was younger.

I don’t enjoy going out, but I’m willing to. I used to be straight-up unwilling or very resistant to it, but I was actually getting laid back then, funny enough. So “just leave your house bro” isn’t true in my case.

Logistically, how can 20% of the male population be fucking 80% of women? The numbers don't possibly make sense. So do 20% of guys just bang 24/7? They would have to in order for that math to work out.

How would it be mathematically impossible? This isn’t some some situation like with Wilt Chamberlain, where some nerds calculated that if he slept with as many women as he claimed to have slept with, he would have had to have sex with like 20 different women a day or something. It just requires that the top 20% of men have one, two, maybe three regular fwbs, the ability to easily pick up new girls at parties or on tinder when they please, and maybe girlfriends they cheat on. It doesn’t seem too out-of-step with what I observe in reality tbh. 20% of the men getting 80% of the women isn’t actually that absurd in an increasingly nonmonogamous culture. There are ratios in the animal kingdom that are way worse, and you can infer from genetic evidence that the same was true in primitive humanity. Civilization relied on and enforced a kind of sexual socialism via monogamy, but remove the incentives/pressure for it and you regress back towards the animalistic mean.

Don't you have friends/family who are in relationships? Almost everyone I know is dating, engaged, or married.

I don’t know if it’s a regional thing or something, but that’s not the case where I live. Especially with regard to marriage. Something like 65% of people nowadays are unmarried at age 30. Up from like 15% in the 1950s.

inb4 “but some of them will get married in their 30s”

Yeah I know, but you can’t deny that the general trend is for less and less people to be married.

Chicks will fuck normal guys in relationships, but if a girl is hooking up, then she wants someone hot. How is this news to you or anyone else?

It’s not new. What’s new is the rate at which women hook up. If it’s true that an increasing number of women are choosing to hookup rather than enter relationships (and it is true), that means more sex for the minority of men who are fuckbuddy-material Chads and less for the majority of men who are boyfriend-material betas.

Would you prefer to hookup with a girl who's a 6 with a great personality, or a 10 who's retarded? The 10, right? Because it's a hookup and you don't care about real qualities.

Actually, I’m weird about that. I want sex quickly but not necessarily casually. I like to fuck right away and have that be the start of a long-term relationship. So I keep both looks and personality in mind when I’m trying to score. Other men might not approach it that way though. Women certainly don’t.

I concede that you might be more right than I am about the extent that hypergamy affects most men today. But I think that its existence and the general trend towards a re-emergence of primitive sexuality are undeniable. And since I’m the kind of guy who’s always thinking about what the future will be like, I pay a lot of attention to these trends. The 80-20 rule might not be totally in effect right now, but I think we’re rapidly getting there.

So what's the problem? I'm genuinely curious because I've never talked to someone with this mindset before. Do you want to be a chad? Do you want to be a guy with a bunch of FWBs? You can do that if you want to. The only thing stopping you from living the life you want is yourself.

If you want to get tons of NSA ass, then get ripped and fuck the shallow girls who want to hookup with hot guys. If you want a real relationship, start approaching girls whenever you're out (not clubs but stores, shops, social circle, etc) and try to find a girl who isn't social media obsessed (they're out there. I've dated them).

I've never understood the incel/mgtow mindset of complaining about things but not trying to change. If the world is going further into the 80/20 rule like you claim it is, then get into that 20%. It's not hard. Being in great shape pretty much puts you there and a little personality makes you a catch to women. At least TRP guys try to better themselves with working out/game.

And don't you think that women making money is the root cause of those numbers increasing? Most dudes don't have a lot to offer besides their paycheck, and if a girl is making good money at her job, then why would she bother dating an average joe? Women had to get married back in the 1950's because they had literally no other option in life. You need to bring something more to the table than just existing in 2018. Get in great shape, fuck the shit out of your girl in bed, be funny, and you'll never have a problem with women. It's pretty simple.

I have 7 dates lined up in a place I'm.moving to in a week. If you're good with tinder you can get laid a couple times a week with random chicks until you find a girl who's good enough to be you're girlfriend. Also 70% of chicks on tinder do want to fuck on the first date and like to be spanked and for you to spit on their cunt. It just takes practice and confidence

I’ve only gotten laid once through tinder and I’ve had it for like a year. “If you’re good with tinder” lol. There’s not really any strategy to it. Just look good and have a good bio. And I get chicks messaging me all the time saying they like my bio, so that kind of narrows it down, doesn’t it?

Supreme Gentleman.

Looks like Harvey Keitel

Elliot was a creepy looking fuck

He is perfect for this subs mascot.

Wow, you have a fine eye for detail sir.

youre a creepy looking fuck, stop projecting what you think about yourself onto others.

Lol

Mr. Kill Yo Girl

Some half-chink kids look great but he got the worst of both.

Damn those are some dick sucking lips. I’d have taken his virginity.

Great minds or sumthin'.

Tsssss

He kind of looks like Sue.

Is that Sue the Russian guy that fucks Anthony Cumia?
Why did tranth photoshop his sandpaper face?

Good lookin kid, I bet he gets a lot of pussy

He looks like he was pieced together from dead ladyboys

Holy shit. lol

What a little faggot.

Ant and Sue look so cute together.

Are you guys the type that go hard for Asian women?

Nice shirt, stupid.

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Ok. I’ll bite. Maybe so, but your talking about hot, hot women.

What about the ol’ meat market mentality where, sure you can’t fuck a ten, but you can get your dick wet in a 5 just like the old days. That’s the other edge of the incel sword. They are picky, critical little baby boys, and don’t take what they can get and deserve based on their general outlook, lifestyle and demeanor.

I’m in a relationship, and have absolutely zero problem cheating any time I want if I am observant and easy going and NOT PICKY.

There’s still lonely desperate pigs out there, sir.

Also, how/why you know so much about this?

Also, also, how hideous are you?

Baby boy incels.

Are you a cuckold victim too?

A lot of incels looksmatch, which is basically doing anything and everything to make themselves as fuckable as possible. Some spend thousands on it.

This isn't a result of hookup culture. Shit has always been that way.

Average to below-average looking guys have relationship sex (which makes senses. Why would a girl hookup with some 300 pound neckbeard?). Above-average looking guys can fuck around. It's never not been like that.

All tinder has done is make this easier for women, and bring it to the attention of men who may not have previously known.

But the number of girls hooking up is astronomically smaller than the number of girls in relationships/wanting to be in relationships. It just isn't easy when the majority of the male population consists of unfuckable/undateable nerds.

which is funny considering they are 100% capable of pulling that type of shit (Elliot) so they're just gassing the fire.

then again the media loves school shootings so it makes sense.

Same thing as what?