Mixed race high school dropout Anthony Cumia credits "homogenous cultures" for low rates of gun violence, not the fact that they have much stricter gun regulation.

0  2018-02-23 by wifflebb

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What a dumb fucking wop. I hope Missy takes one of his illegal firearms and chases him around the Compound with it after finding out he's sleeping with some 16 year old dickgirl on the side.

I can't wait until Nonna wakes up from his drunken slumber and starts ranting again. Lots of gun stuff in the news today, hopefully the night ends with him clutching his chest and pawing blindly for an empty bottle of nitroglycerine pills.

I'm shocked that the 10th grade educated tin-knocker from Long Island has misinformed political opinions.

Oh duh, I feel like a big silly for not realizing Ant is wetting his panties because these mass shooters are always creepy white guys. Class personified. Talks about the cultural problem of gun violence in blacks as a smokescreen for how frequently incel honkeys blow a fuse.

This dummy knows nothing of American history. Does he think diversity is some recent event that has taken place in this country & that it’s been perpetrated by the “libtards” (Anyone who uses that term is basically retarded)? We have never been a homogeneous culture & that’s why we rose to the top, if Ant thinks all Europeans who arrived all shared the same culture he’s dumber than I previously assumed he was. The alt-right of the 1800’s-1970’s despised Catholics & Italians as much as they did Jews & blacks. America, unlike Europe & basically most other countries, has always been the antithesis of homogenous, hence the fact that Anthony’s a racist man who lives in an affluent Jewish community, what could less culturally homogeneous & nothing could be more American.

I think he meant homosexual culture instead of homogeneous

This is not even a political issue - wherever you fall on the gun debate, it is just common sense that a country with .6 guns per 100k is going to have far less gun crime than a country with 100 guns per 100k. Also, the UK is a "homogenous culture?" Lol maybe the last time he visited Epcot center.

If you remove the gun crimes from the chocolate hell holes gun crime rates are on par with Europe. Guns aren't the issue.

He's a wet brained idiot but he's not wrong

Not only is what he said wrong, his thought process and motivations are also wrong.

Nah, he's completely wrong. These are always poverty issues- you're not comparing apples to apples when you say a socialist country with stricter gun law has less gun crime than planned slums in the US.

Millions of dirt poor Hindus, Chinese, and Eastern Europeans have immigrated to the West within the last 2 generations. They came here with loose change in their pockets, living in slums, no free handouts, their children are discriminated against in the public education/university system, yet they've outperformed everyone, save the Jews, who also lived in slums without so much a morsel of free food. Anthony is an obsessed asshole, and this statement is idiotic, but don't bury your head in the sand altogether. I alsp read that West Va., is the poorest, most disenfranchised, most drug addicted, and whitest state in the Union. It also has the amongst the lowest homicide rates. Dunno, if it's true or not, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least.

So, a state that's virtually populated by the poorest, most disenfranchised, white trash, pill addicts should be butchering eachother at Chicago, Baltimore, New Orleans, DC, Detroit, levels, but they're not. So, poverty isn't the sole issue here. In terms of gun ownership, Switzerland and Israel, both require their denizens be armed, and have a vibrant gun culture, yet extremely low homicide. There's a lot more to the gun debate than simple ownership issues.

I wasnt engaging in the gun debate in the least I just think its absolutely moronic to suggest that there is a simple correlation between race and murder a la Ant's stance blacks murder people because they're bad. Any relation you find can without fail be related to other more complex issues with even more staggeringly complex solutions. But Ant isn't in the 'being smart' business he's in the low effort angry on twitter business.

You may find that the lack of population centers in WV has something to do with their average crime rate, and the crime rate in Charleston is actually quadruple in the national average. https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/wv/charleston/crime even though the black population is only 2% higher than the national average.

I'll bet you dont want to look up drug stats in appalachia if we're talking about racial disposition to crime.

a salud.

I already mentioned the drug stats. I mentioned the opioid epidemic. I mentioned the shit financial situation. The fact that they're not offing each other in record numbers, despite being gun nuts should indicate to you a little something about racial disposition of crime. Anthony is an asshole,but he'snot wrong here, if you ever left your gated community, you'd smarten up a little, but people like you never do. Sooner, than later, people figure it out, but by then it's too late.

In the same post you recognize the conditions of the opioid epidemic, where whites are committing crime and offing themselves at staggering amounts as non racial but environmental. It shouldnt be a stretch for you to apply the same logic to blacks unless you're a total racist.

Ha, sweet assumption bro. I live in a low income ex manufacturing community in a 100 year old twin with a bunch of poor white people, poor black people, and poor latin immigrants. I'm not afraid of any of my neighbors because they're all decent lower middle class people with jobs. All the violent crime in my town is from young people being fucking idiots, which you'll find is the primary motivation to most violent crime.

I never disagreed with you in the first place. People were describing violent crime, murder above. That's what I was referring to.

So, poverty isn't the sole issue here.

Density, too. Something about increased population density drives up violent crime in humans (and rats too, oddly enough); and guns act as a force multiplier on that.

You've got roughly the same chance of being mugged in London as New York; but one of those has 54 times the chance of that mugging ending in a murder. Can you guess which?

Funny, Tokyo is the most densely populated place on the planet. They don't seem to have a massive crime problem, now do they. In fact street crime is virtually non-existent. Gee, I wonder why. I grew up NYC. I have friends in London. Who's doing the muggings? I grew up around dirt poor European immigrants, I'm one myself, never heard of anyone ever mugging someone, and their was no shortage of degenerate drug addicts in the neighborhood. On occasion, some old lady was mugged in the neighborhood, 100% of the time it was a certain race, that came over for the sole purpose of robbing. Can you guess which it was?

Funny, Tokyo is the most densely populated place on the planet. They don't seem to have a massive crime problem, now do they. In fact street crime is virtually non-existent.

Like I said, poverty AND density. Tokyo's one of the richest cities in the world.

Could it have anything to do with why Japan, despite having been turned into hamburger after the war, and their homogeneous population rebounded the way they did, and didn't open their borders to third worlders?

It's a tiny series of islands, with most of it mountainous. There's not much living space for anyone.

And yet they've gone on to obscene success, despite Tokyo having been completely leveled, 2 major industrial cities nuked, and being subjugated by the White man, and consequently colonized, and not having been anything for free or insane amounts of privileges and special rights. Funny how that works out, isn't it? Your professors at your Sociology 101 class really did a number on you, bro.

despite Tokyo having been completely leveled

....and that's the key. Japan got levelled, Finland (Nokia) was agrarian until after WW2, Germany got bombed flat and yet has been kicking arse since unification....

Just out of interest - did you know your grandparents were retards, with IQs in the 80 ("Forrest Gump") range? I'm not just saying that - the Flynn effect is an enormously well-documented, and well-attested phenomena.

Should we have let them into the country? Shouldn't you go back to wherever you came from?

Flynn effect

The Flynn effect is the substantial and long-sustained increase in both fluid and crystallized intelligence test scores measured in many parts of the world from roughly 1930 to the present day. When intelligence quotient (IQ) tests are initially standardized using a sample of test-takers, by convention the average of the test results is set to 100 and their standard deviation is set to 15 or 16 IQ points. When IQ tests are revised, they are again standardized using a new sample of test-takers, usually born more recently than the first. Again, the average result is set to 100.


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...it occurs to me that I should explain the Flynn Effect to you, as you come from 80-IQ stock which (as you believe) is genetic, and not a function of the environment people are raised in.

See, during World War 2, incoming US soldiers were given an IQ test; and the average was scaled to 100. Remember that there was both a draft, and enormous patriotic fervour to enlist - so it's a really broad cohort, and we have a massive corpus of data. The problem is, if we give modern people the same IQ test, they mostly come out as 120+ IQs - or genius level. It's the same right across the developed world; there's even people arguing that old people don't suffer a loss of brain function, they just stay about the same IQ that they were.

So, my question is - if you're right about some races having fixed, sub-normal IQs - shouldn't you fuck off back to wherever you came from?

And btw, your theory as to why the Germans and Japanese are successful post war is b/c their countries were completely leveled and annihilated? Do you know how insane you sound right now? So we should reassemble the legions and completely annihilate, and even nuke, black and brown people, destroy their infrastructure, murder most military age young men, set up military base, and humiliate the old people, young, and women for several generations, and they'll somehow become cutting edge superpowers? Dude, honestly, you seem like an intelligent enough fella, but you've lost your mind.

My grandparents were actually very successful given their dire circumstance in a war ravaged Fascist country. Funny how they retired to beautiful rustic homes in the coastal countryside after having worked their asses off and no one given them any handouts and special privileges, huh. Your bullshit has crashed against reality, dude. Give it up. You're not fooling anyone who doesn't wanna be fooled. Speaking of low IQ's, did you know that blacks and Muslims rank lowest. Is it no surpise their countries, and global diasporas are the poorest, most backwards, barbaric, war torn, diseased, chaotic, helpless, hopeless places in the world. But, I thought this was all b/c of poverty and population density, huh? Surely genetics have no baring on this, according to your Flynn effect analysis. Just poverty and population density. Like those Starving post war Germans and Japanese. Poverty and population density was the reason they rebuilt their nations within one generation, and within two were once again the dominant economic power on their continents. Why are you doing this to yourself, bro? Honestly. Why can't you just accept reality and deal with it, like everyone else who has the dignity and self-respect to do so.

My grandparents were actually very successful given their dire circumstance in a war ravaged Fascist country. Funny how they retired to beautiful rustic homes in the coastal countryside after having worked their asses off and no one given them any handouts and special privileges, huh.

I'll bet that's exactly what they told you. No bloody skeletons in your family closet, huh?

You ever contact your national records, maybe see what your "successful" grandparents got up to during the war? Somehow they held on to their money, and I know how hard that was in Facist countries if you didn't collaborate.

Oh, also - one poorly-sourced anecdote doesn't beat data. We couldn't have developed the Internet if we'd still be trying to learn via your "my uncle's friend's third cousin says that leeches cure cancer" model. I mean, I get how you think - your "feels is reals", despite literally tens of millions of IQ tests pointing to a different conclusion.

But, yeah, I get it - your sole achievement in life is the accident of your birth, and how close you came to being a wet spot on your parent's bed....

....come to think of it, if your grandparents ever served, there's probably an IQ test floating around that they took during induction. Are you brave enough to look, see how it scales now?

Furthermore for someone who's obsessed with IQ, as you've brought it up on your own, and who's admitting it's all genetic, didn't you just shoot down your own thesis here by inadvertently admitting that low IQ populations, such as Blacks and assorted brown people are genetically predisposed to failure. The nerve of you, man. So,this is what you think of low IQ dark people huh? It all makes sense now.

Very mature, dude. You can't deal with the math and reality of the debate, so resort to petty ad hominems, as to save some face. Sad. I'm from Spain, and my grandfather ended up in a POW camp post war for many years, before he had to flee to South America. If you're as bright as you like to pretend you are, you could figure the aforementioned out. You lose, dude. Bullshit always crashes against reality.

before he had to flee to South America

Many Nazis did.

Re: (Reeeeeeeee?) your other point? Pick a country, build a stable economy, educate the fuck out of them for a generation or two; then bomb them flat and rebuild them with foreign aid. See what happens.

Your point about Asian immigrants doing well? That's not a random assortment of people - it's self-selected (only people who are successful enough to become immigrants actually become immigrants). They really are sending their best.

(What you're suffering from is a common problem with people who know fuck-all about statistics - you fail to understand the selection pressures on your self-selected data set.)

Secondly, are you really surprised that wealthy and well-educated immigrants do better than less-wealthy, less-educated refugees?

You lose, dude. Bullshit always crashes against reality.

...and yet here you are, faced with a massively well-documented phenomena (the Flynn Effect), making high-school-level statistical mistakes and clinging to your initial hypothesis despite overwhelming (and I mean overwhelming: we're talking tens of millions of IQ tests, spread over countries and decades; with the ability to re-take the tests) evidence that it's wrong.

Whatever gets you through the day. Spaniards who had to flee Spain, fought against the Nazi's genius. If IQ is as genetic as you propose, than this perfectly explains Anthony's hypothesis as to why black and non-Hindu browns have failed catastrophically throughout the world, even despite unprecedented aid and privileges being bestowed upon them. But now I see how you think. You've suggested that low IQ third worlders are genetically fucked up people and furthermore, if that wasn't insulting enough, they should have their major population centers leveled, even nuked, in order to light a fire under their butts and motivate them. You are one twisted fuck. But at least you can explain to them how the Flynn effect works, and G.I. IQ test circa 1945.

As to your point about Asian immigrants, and by extension extraordinarily successful European immigrants that came before them- the overwhelming vast majority are poor, barely literate peasants. Had you ever been to any immigrant communities you'da known this, but alas, you're waxing poetical about the Flynn effect on a sub dedicated to a defunct radio program on Reddit. Fucking dolt.

There's a book that you might find horrifically uncomfortable, but I still think you'd find it helpful; it has nothing to do with race. It's called "How to lie with statistics" by Darrell Huff. A better name would be "How to spot people lying about statistics", as it's not really about how to lie; it's about how to spot people misinterpreting data - like yourself. It covers people who think poorly-attributed stories about their grandparents are useful data; and people who confuse self-selected data with random selection.

It was published in 1954, it doesn't cover race at all; but I think you'd find it confronting and challenging nonetheless. Particularly pay attention to the graphs of the V1 bombs that landed on London. The papers at the time declared that it indicated that the Nazis were avoiding bombing German spies (as indicated by their North-South oriented maps); analysis using maps oriented in a slightly different direction indicated that the bombs were very badly aimed and lucky to land in any square mile (as confirmed by the guy who designed them - Werner Von Braun). The point - as those of you with 80-IQ grandparents (which is according to you genetic and unchangeable) is that how you organise your data set can make or break the info you get out of it.

You're obsession with IQ is quite startling. And if that weren't alarming enough, you suggest problematic populaces should be completely annihilated in order to perform up to your impeccable standards. Now I see where your social justice conviction comes from- projection. Flynn effect and sloppy statistical analysis take a backseat to your tyrannical bloodlust of bombing low IQ thirdwolders. Shame on you, man. But I could help you out with this. I still have plenty of contacts in my old neighborhood in Jamaica, Queens. I could set you up with a nice lil apartment there and you could explain to the locals how the Flynn effect works, how statistical analysis operates, and most importantly how IQ is genetic, and how being firebombed, and if need be, nuked, will work out in their best interests. I'm sure they'll welcome you in with open arms. But you wouldn't dare, b/c we all know people like you despise blacks and browns, and everyone else for that matter with such intensity, that you defend them from the safety of your white neighborhood and protection of your anonymity of the computer. At least Anthony has the balls to be open about his racism.

I don't understand what this means. The UK has a low gun crime rate because guns are basically illegal. Here we have an astronomically high gun crime rate because they are barely regulated. What does this have to do with 'chocolate hellholes?'

Edit: oh I understand your point and it's completely wrong. Per capita gun deaths of white men in the US: 17. The overall population in the UK? .23. So if by 'on par' you mean '75 times higher' you have a point.

Barely regulated? And wtf does regulation have to do with gun crimes? As if the perp gives any fucks about the laws on the books in the first place. Most gun crimes are done with unregistered guns.

So you don't think the UK has fewer gun crimes because guns are illegal there?

They also have 1/6th the population. And tyranny seems to be much more prominent in places where guns are heavily restricted. So take your pick. Deal with dipshits that don't care about the existing laws or maybe a government that wants to rid it's population of the undesirables. Here's a hint, the bloods and crisp ain't got shit on the Stalins of the world.

So you don't think the UK has fewer gun crimes because guns are illegal there?

This is the ONLY statement in question in Anthony's tweet. I'm not having a debate about gun control merits or lack thereof.

EDIT: And we're talking about per capita gun violence, so population makes no difference.

Of course they do. The fact remains, it's easier to fight Stalins army, armed. So, I ask you, would you rather deal with thugs with guns or God forbid, the government, with an armed citizenry or an unarmed citizenry?

Once again, because you don't seem to understand, THIS ISN'T A GUN CONTROL DEBATE. I'm taking issue with Anthony blaming gun crime on diversity and not, say, the huge amount of guns in this country. To look at countries with low gun crime and say (wrongly) that the one thing they have in common is their "homogenous cultures" and not their low rate of gun ownership - that is willful ignorance or utter stupidity.

And I answered you and yes of course they do, again. So yea, I understand what you're doing and saying. And now I'm trying to find out where you stand on the debate. That's all.

Ok? I meant the US has roughly 310 million people and UK has what 60 million? And I meant 1/5th but typed 6th.

Per capita statistics account for population. You understand this, right? Gun deaths are 45x higher per capita in the US.

Never fucking mind. How hard is it to understand I typed, the US has 310 million people and the uk has about 60 million, making it about 1/6th the overall population. I didn't say anything about gun/crimes per capita. I already conceded to your statement. Ffs. All I'm trying to find out is where you stand on the gun debate, because of fucking course a country where a citizen can obtain a gun legally and has 6 times more people will not only have more guns but more crimes also.

The point is, it doesn't matter what my politics are. What you just said in that last sentence is rational common sense and anyone should understand it regardless of politics. So we agree.

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Tranpa just can't help making it about race and culture.

Why not bring up that the UK has 1/100th the guns of the US, but the murder rate of the UK is still 1/4th the murder rate of the US? Why can't he just address an issue without bringing up "the grand scheme of things"?

"Like we had before this shit started"

Antwan your shitty culture brought us organized crime from Sicily.

Mexico, Brazil, Honduras all have strict gun laws but higher gun death than ours. Anthony is not wrong here

Lol at comparing the US to literal Shithole countries instead of the First World.

Really shooting for the stars there

It's because our racial makeup is more similar to the third world. That is the key. It's about race, dipshit.

Mexico doesn't and this doesn't even make his point. Brazil and Honduras certainly have more 'homogenous' cultures than the UK and Australia.

How do you figure Brazil is more homogeneous than the UK and Australia.

Australia and the UK are in no way homogeneous cultures. Jesus he's just full blown race conspiracy now. And Japan has massive gun prohibition.

The Japanese were also historically blood thirsty motherfuckers. Their culture was feudalism and constant war. When they got a hold of guns shit got completely out of hand.

That’s why we nuked the little buggers, set them straight at least for a few generations.

Thats a whole other fallacy in his statement- if you want to talk about a group of people without troubling cultural trends Japan would not be the first place you start.

I'd like him to read about the Nanking Massacre and tell me more about how national pride leads to lower gun crime.

Isn't the UK overrun by Muslims now? How does he explain that?

28% of Australians are immigrants.

Homogeneous, my arse.

Its almost as if this tweet was pulled 100% out of his ass

It's dripping with sue cum.

Like's Sue's condom the first time they fucked. Then they decided to go bareback.

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He means white. But he too much of moron to realize that using the PC term is even more wrong than just saying white.

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Wasn’t it always that way? I have no idea, the only time I pay attention to Australia is when it involves Saltwater crocodile attacks. I imagine it’s had similar immigration patterns to America but on a much smaller scale considering it’s land is the size of the continental United States with a population smaller than the state of Texas. I don’t know any of the stats but where I came from in the US it seemed like alomost every other persons parents or grandparents were originally from an another country.

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How does a person that never graduated high school, never traveled anywhere besides Cleveland or LA, admitted to rarely if ever reading any book, never in 20 years of ona had a serious guest on that challenged his views and whenever a liberal guest came on he kept quiet then trashed them after they left, know ANYTHING about other cultures?

Everything he spews is shit he read on shoddy websites that support his views already anyway. He's a bullet point, base level political hack that wouldnt stand a chance against someone that actually had clout.

Not to mention, he also fucks friendly transexuals then lies about it.

I like the cut of your jib…

His dad came here on a banana boat.

Funny enoug everything has come around full circle. Now Anthony likes to sit on bananas.

I blame the blacks but don't want to be a Cumia, what do I do?

Finish highschool we're rooting for ya'. If not a killkuhn or metoo will do.

I wanted to reply but this so embarrassing. 🐜h you tiny insect fuck.

Funny enoug everything has come around full circle. Now Anthony likes to sit on bananas.

Could it have anything to do with why Japan, despite having been turned into hamburger after the war, and their homogeneous population rebounded the way they did, and didn't open their borders to third worlders?