november of 2004

The Hero list was the reveal, but probably once they started shitting on him for his tubby tummy.

When he surpassed him in breast meat volume

probably a week into his employment

Probably before most of us where even aware the show existed.

Erock must have lots of dirt to dish, & the sneaky sweet boy copied all Opies files, secret archives, etc. He's a clever boy playing the long game.

When he got paid in quarters.

I genuinely think that when the phone number was dropped was probably about it.

Definitely this

That whole thing was a bit. You don't need a new phone to get a new phone number.

When Opie gave out Erocks phone number over the air, ruining a vacation for Erock & Wife.

"Above all - real"

Sure

What is more likely?

1. It was all a bit that Erock was in on.
   
2. Opie screwed over Erock for the bit.
3. It was totally an accident.

The furthest I'm willing to go is that they aired his number by accident but I'm not even convinced of that.

If it was an accident then they went with it and all the shit after that was fake.

If it was real he would have just turned off his phone and got a new number, it wouldn't have been an ordeal at all. Getting lots of calls and voicemails doesn't somehow break your phone.

Quantify "lots".

I don't need to because no amount of phone calls can physically break a cell phone, that's retarded. His voicemail would just fill up and that's it.

And why would he or anyone just sit there and let it ring all night? He would just turn it off as soon as calls started coming in.

IIRC Erock said that notifications were hitting so fast that his phone would do nothing else. He would turn on the phone and it was nothing but notifications.

I'm pretty sure it would be from the amount of text messages people were spamming to him. So, yes I think that if "lots" is "lots" enough it could prevent any other processes from getting processing time.

So just turn it off and continue the vacation.

What is so difficult to understand about that? Why would he need a new phone?

New phone number is what we are talking about here. There is a cost to change a phone number. That is all. I'm not saying the device itself would be permanently damaged.

Right but from what I recall he acted like his vacation was ruined and he had to get a new phone. Neither of those things would have been true.

You also would have to believe that the chisler opie would give him $5k or $10k or whatever it was. I'm not buying that either.

You probably think all that 90 day fiancé talk wasn't bought and paid for either, right? And that dick cream guy was just a friend of Ant's that he had on the show?

"Ruined" is a stretch but it's a major pain in the ass to deal with. I would have been livid that the place I allow to fuck with me day in and day out as a job would feel the need to fuck with me on my vacation too.

You don't think that Opie gave Erock a dolly of quarters? I mean there is video of it happening.

Having paid sponsors and spots is totally different than what we are talking about. You can try to conflate them to attack me but you only betrayed the weakness of your argument and logic. "Some things are staged so everything is staged."

Since we are at this point, let's just call this little exchange as complete. Bye now.

It's still real to you, dammit.

And my logic is fine, this is not a huge deal and obviously not a reason to need a new phone. Cell phones have off buttons, that's all is needed to solve this problem and continue the vacation.

And yeah there's a video of Kenny with a bunch of heavy looking boxes, so what? Even if he did, so what? $5k is $5k, I'd gladly take that to go to the AT&T store to get a new SIM card. He could pay some intern $200 to deal with the quarters if it was real.

You need a hug.

I bet it's whenever Opie screwed with his livelihood behind the scenes