This is blatant. Not only is this the most Alex Jones type thing I've ever seen, but Infowars has been trending on Twitter for days with some hashtag about CNN being ISIS. Now they have this video proof of CNN faking something, which people can say is CNN defending the threat.
When someone says they are dying for Islam, and you say, they aren't real Muslims, that is literally one of the most basic logical fallacys. It's called "No true scotsman."
This is what CNN said really happened. The TL;DR version is that there was an actual protest that was nearby. They asked the protestors if they wanted to move over to where they were going to film their live report so that they could hold their signs on camera. The protestors agreed.
Well I dunno that it's even necessarily lazy.. As you can see in the video they have all of their equipment set up there as well as all of their electrical outlets there. They were doing live shots from that location all day. It probably wouldn't have been logistically possible to break everything down to move their report a couple of blocks away to where the protest was. Much easier to just ask the protestors if they want to come to where you're already set up.
We live in a culture that demands authenticity and slaughters companies over fake wannabe stuff. Just like Pepsi and that Kardashian sister protest clip that pissed everyone off.
This just looks really bad and phony. Show us a real clip of a real protest, that's news.
That camera equipment is a pain in the ass to take apart and set up again, and these people are on a time crunch. It's a bit shitty, but understandable. Their crime is deadlines and laziness; there's no conspiracy.
That doesn't seem very unlikely... they had their cameras set up there all day. They have their electrical outlets and everything in that location. I don't doubt that if there was a protest nearby as they claim that they'd ask the protestors to come get into a shot for their next live report... it's just as likely as the theory that they rounded up some brown people and asked them to pretend to be Muslim protestors and crossed their fingers that these brown people can keep a secret.
Well speaking of African Americans there's not much difference between the spread of Crips/Bloods and radical islam. Except one is fueled by rich Saudis and religion, blaming their shitty situation on white people so they can feel powerful but not actually get anywhere better. And the other was fueled by selling drugs to (mostly) white people, to feel powerful in gangs and ending up dead or in jail.
I can't tell what's a bit and what's not anymore. There are people going to the mat on this one because they believe it's 100% proof!!11!!! CNN = Fake News!! bigly if true!! To the Top!!!
It's a fake political stunt caught on tape, to push their political motive. You haven't argued that, you're just arguing that they aren't 100% actors, they actually do believe the terrorist attacks were bad. Wow, what a moral high bar to set, that CNN found some Muslims who don't believe in terrorism.
Yeah... they are reporting on the Muslims who are protesting.. should they not report on that? They reported on the Muslims who killed people but they shouldn't report on the Muslims who are protesting because that is pushing a narrative?
CNN has basically a stage set up, with directors and cameras. They find some Muslims who decry terrorism, and put them on the stage, so they can push their narrative that this has nothing to do with Islam. That's not real news, that is creating a narrative. The liberal narrative is that the terrorism has nothing to do with Islam, so they are creating a scene to prove that. "A picture is worth a thousand words," so they artificially create the message they want to send.
It's not artificial if they literally have real Muslims who were actually protesting the attacks and all they did was ask the Muslims if they want to get on camera.
If there is any hope at all for a reformation in Islam it is going to take moderate Muslims being willing to speak out against the radical shitheads who are killing people. We need moderate Muslims to see that there are other Muslims willing to get on camera and condemn ISIS without being afraid of getting their heads sawed off. I don't know why this is a bad thing. We need this to happen. We need millions of Muslims willing to speak out and push the issue of a reformation. You're never going to get that if the news never shows any Muslims doing that.
No one is saying every single Muslim supports terrorism. People do believe Islam is the cause of acts like 9/11 though. CNN is actively trying to push against something that is true, because liberals believe racism is the worst thing in the world.
Islam isn't a race though, it is a set of ideas, which people practice and believe in. Christianity isn't treated as a race.
I never said that anyone is thinking that all Muslims support terrorism. The only thing I'm saying is that CNN reporting that there are Muslims protesting the terror attacks in London isn't fake news and it isn't a bad thing. It's a good thing that they are reporting that. I hope a lot of other Muslims take notice and fall in line behind that.
Many public intellectuals have been against Christianity, and I can see the effect that has had in basically 15 years. Atheism is mainstream now in the west. That wasn't racism, they just thought the beliefs were bad.
If you argue ideas, people will change their beliefs. Nothing will change if everyone says, Islam is great, the Koran is great, we support your belief in it.
The reason Christianity stopped behaving like Islam is behaving now is because secular western countries said "Ok.. enough of this shit.. we aren't going to let fuckin puritans burn people alive because they believe in witches anymore... we are going to be run by secular laws and if you step out of line you are going to be punished." It was other Christians who did this. The same thing needs to happen with Islam. Moderate Muslims need to work with secular western countries to get rid of the radicals. The moderates need to take control of that religion. Having a bunch of outsiders telling them how they need to change their beliefs is only going to strengthen their resolve to fight against us. It has to be moderate Muslims that reform their religion.
We are not outsiders in our own countries! People in their own countries need to say what is acceptable in their culture. Americans/Brits/Asians/etc must put their foot down on what is acceptable in their home.
Yeah... there is no Islamic rule in our country.. Our foot is down. If a Muslim tries to stone his wife to death for getting raped he is arrested. That isn't the case in a lot of Muslim majority countries where ISIS springs out of. That is where the problem is. That is where reformation needs to take hold.
I'm not talking about just keeping terrorist out of Times Square... I'm talking about reforming Islam in the same way Christianity is reformed so Islamic terrorism isn't a thing anymore.
You're kind of arguing two different things at once.
You're both more or less agreed that there are elements of the core Islamic texts that encourage extremism and terrorism. That's pretty much inarguable.
But you're saying that "no one is saying every single Muslim supports terrorism" while getting mad at CNN for showing that not every single Muslim supports terrorism. They're making no claim about the religion itself or its texts.
Yeah, I've already said that. If you don't see a problem with a news organization creating a narrative to support their ideological beliefs on a set, with sound guys, camera men, directors, and trying to pass it off as if what people are seeing is natural, then we can't argue this.
That wouldn't be a problem, unless they were still just trying to push their political narrative. CNN isn't supposed to be partisan, even though everyone just accepts that everyone is biased now. Imagine if CNN found 12 Muslims that support the attack, and put them on a set and pushed that narrative.
So, I'm curious as to how this is different from CNN, or any other news organization, pulling anyone off the street, or into a studio, for an interview or panel. Moving people from one spot to another to talk to them doesn't change what they were going to say.
I agree and find it funny. But when you think about it, countless iconic photographs that impacted the culture were staged in similar ways. Is TV cable new held to a higher standard than Dorothea Lange? Makes a guy think.
That doesn't explain away anything. Of course there are Muslims who decry the terrorist attacks. If CNN actively finds them and tells them to come to their set, and stand a certain way in front of their cameras, and CNN is doing it with an obvious political motive, that is not an excuse at all. I never assumed they found actors and told them to dress like Muslims, that isn't the point at all.
What's the point then? Muslim protestors were in the area speaking out against the attack. That's all CNN said. If these aren't actors then their report is true... having people move a block over to get on camera doesn't make the report fake...
They don't have to hire brown actors and have a CNN intern making fake protest signs to be deceptive. To be fair I haven't found the actual broadcast showing how it was presented, but I bet viewers watching it at home thought they were looking at an actual protest, not a few protestors coordinated by CNN to huddle together a block or two away. It looks like CNN made an effort with the tight shot and tight pack of people to make it appear like a real and crowded protest with a lot of people involved.
Any conspiracies aside, this video clearly shows CNN staging the scene beforehand, and most probably being deceptive to the audience about the shot they were seeing.
CNN are incompetent faggots but who would conduct such shady conspiratorial shit in broad daylight in a city that the entire world is watching while some dipshit with a camera is filming the entire thing. It just seems a lot more logical that the protesters were asked if they wanted to be on the news.
Even if this is completely true, theyre still dressing the scene with flowers and placing the protestors (notice the small child located front/center) like a film director to maximize sympathy, thus shaping the narrative.
Yeah.. you put the kid up front so they aren't blocked out by the taller adults... What is the issue here? They should only report about the Muslims who killed people and not report on the Muslims who are speaking out against the attack? We fuckin need moderate Muslims to see that there are other Muslims speaking out so that the moderate Muslims also start coming out and speaking out against the attacks... if there is any hope for reformation in that religion it's going to take the moderate Muslims making it happen.. they all need to feel like they can come out and condemn these attacks without being afraid of getting their heads cut off.
I wish they would promote the message of moderate Muslims coming out and saying "fuck ISIS... we need to reform our religion and help secular countries rid the world of the jihadists in our ranks." That would be a good thing.
It's because those people don't exist. They only hate ISIS because they disagree with their tactics but not their goals, they would all love it if Sharia Law was the law of the land and everyone converted to Islam.
Not all of them but the head of the Quilliam Foundation which is a group in England working to reform Islam is a former radical Islamist who is now a secular Muslim. His message is exactly "fuck ISIS and we need to form our religion and help secular countries rid the world of the jihadists in our ranks."
How many Muslims have followed his lead? Because I can point to all sorts of secular Muslims who have been threatened, exiled, and otherwise ignored by the vast, vast majority of Muslims. It's impossible to secularized Islam, it's way different than Christianity and would need to change too much. Reforming Islam would be gutting it which is why no Muslims want to do it.
the moderate Muslims need to see that they can speak out without getting killed or having their families disown them.
Precisely. Also I'd like to know which parts they want to reform. You hear about people fleeing ISIS all the time but they're fleeing bombs and bullets, not the society they came from. Every Muslim country is a backwards shithole regardless of wealth or resources, I think it's important how these people define reformation. They can be against violence but be in favor of the rest of the parasitic garbage that constitutes that religion.
Well it really is no different than reforming Christianity. The Old Testament is by far the most violent religious text in history. During the Crusades that is what people were following. You don't see Christians stoning people to death anymore. You don't see them burning people alive anymore (except for in some African countries). Western secular influence took hold of their religion and said "this shit isn't allowed anymore." Islam needs the same thing. Muslim majority countries need to stop living under Sharia law the same way that Christian countries had to stop living under biblical law. That only can happen if people from within the religion are the ones to force the change.
Well it really is no different than reforming Christianity. The Old Testament is by far the most violent religious text in history.
Incorrect, the most violent text in history is the Hadiths in the Koran and since Jews aren't out there doing the shit Muslims are doing then it's not really an Old Testament issue, is it? This is the biggest lie I see put forward by Muslim apologists, that all religions are the same. Well if they're the same then why are they different? It's a lazy atheist approximation of thousands of years of conflict and development between different systems.
During the Crusades that is what people were following.
The crusades were a defensive war against hundreds of years of Muslim invaders sweeping their way across Europe.
You don't see Christians stoning people to death anymore. You don't see them burning people alive anymore (except for in some African countries).
Africa, you mean where Christians are being massacred by the thousands by Muslims? This is also a dangerous game you're playing here, using things Christians don't do as an argument that Muslims.... what, might stop at some point? Once again this relies on the argument that religions are all the same which they are certainly not. And hey, maybe that big Christian reformation would have happened a lot faster in a world of internet and space travel and airplanes and vaccines.
The fact that Islam cannot reform in the modern world is a deeper strike against it. Christians behaved savagely in savage times, Muslims behave savagely in enlightened times, see the difference?
Western secular influence took hold of their religion and said "this shit isn't allowed anymore."
Wrong, Western secularism came from Christianity. This is why all religions are different, Christianity valued the physical objective world much greater than Judaism and Islam, this is evidenced in their art and writings. This lead to science, which started as the religious cataloging of physical phenomena and systems. Theologians and philosophers actually point to Christianity's obsession with the absolute truth as the reason it harmed itself in the long run. Western Secularism came out of Christianity, it didn't just show up one day as a battering ram. Furthermore, in the DNA of Christianity is the belief that every human being has intrinsic value, which was a new idea and one most religions and ideologies don't practice; the idea that even a criminal has value and deserves to be seen as human is an idea that's still not widely practiced today and absolutely not evident anywhere in Islam. In fact its the exact opposite.
Muslim majority countries need to stop living under Sharia law the same way that Christian countries had to stop living under biblical law.
What do you mean Biblical law? You mean the 10 commandments?
Here's a cool fact that Christianity has that other religions don't: an automatic distrust of the state, but no rules in place to become the state. Islam - as indicated by the Koran and the Hadiths especially - wants to not only become the state, but become a massive all-controlling state. Christianity introduced this idea that you ought not to worship your leaders, a leader cannot be a deity (as it was done throughout human history.) Every king is answerable to a higher power, and this idea is coded right into American democracy. Not only the mentions of religion, but the idea that all leaders are answerable to the constitution. They made a thing that not only mentions god explicitly, but positions itself above every leader or party. Up until recently most countries didn't even have anything similar to that and I would argue most countries still don't.
In short, there is no such thing as a "Biblical society" that is comparable to what Islam seeks to be, and even in places where it exists the influence is much better.
The old testament can be thrown out." (except they keep shit from the old testament too like the 10 commandments but whatever. People are stupid so it worked).
Again, because the Bible is different. It is allowed to be interpreted differently. Every Christian acknowledges this. No Muslim allows the Koran to be interpreted differently. Even Moderate Muslims understand this and agree. The later parts supersede the earlier parts, because they are the most recent. And lo and behold all the shitty violent stuff happens near the end. Mohammad beheaded 1000 people in a day. Jesus never did that. Jesus was never described as a child raping warlord. But they're all the same!
When Christianity was in turmoil it was all swords and horses. Now it's the internet and bombs and eventually it'll be a Muslim majority country having nukes with the intention to use them.
Yes. Because Muslims are fucking insane retards. Did you know the country of Spain translates more books into Spanish than all Arabic Muslim countries have translated into Arabic in over 100 years? You still don't get it: they don't want to reform. They don't want to learn, they don't want to invent, they don't want to create new shit. Islam is an anti-innovation ideology and despite what people like you say, Christianity (and Catholicism) was integral to the development of scientific thought and innovation. People look at Bible Belt evangelists like they're the norm and not the exception, but even there: those are the extremists. Those are the weirdos, the people doing fake exorcisms. The Westboro Baptist Church holds up goofy signs for YouTube. Your average Moderate Muslim is 100x more dangerous than the worst American Christian.
The "weirdos" in Christianity are the ones who actually follow the text... That is why they seem weird. They follow the teachings of the Bible. Secularism came about because of Christianity. It came about as an alternative. It wasn't a bunch of Christians saying "well we should really open things up to allow for a broader cross-section of beliefs." It was people saying "geez.. when we follow the bible like it's an instruction manual we end up in nonstop conflict.. maybe we oughta stop that." And this idea that "the average moderate muslim is 100x more dangerous than the worst American Christian" is retarded. The average moderate muslim isn't killing anybody. The worst American Christian is some jackass who shoots up a planned parenthood to save the fetuses. I'll take the moderate Muslim who isn't killing anybody over the retard killing people who want abortions.
And the crusades being a defensive war is true up until Christians were killing Pagans for not converting. Once Christianity was the ruling power they didn't stop and become peaceful. They went on a mission to convert everyone by force if necessary.
And believe me.. I'm not equating the religions today. Islam is by far the worst/most dangerous religion on the planet at this moment in history. I only bring up Christianity as an example of a large religion that was violent and oppressive and then changed because Christians within the religion recognized that they couldn't continue to exist in that manner. It started with a minority of Christians pushing the reformation and eventually it was the entire religion. The same thing needs to happen now with Islam. There is a minority who wants to reform the religion. It needs to spread.
Google the Quilliam Foundation. Run by a moderate Muslim. The whole purpose of the foundation is to denounce extremism and push for reformation. In real life.
Lol. This is a front for appearing moderate. You know there's also a foundation called Jews for Jesus right?
In the real world, "everyday" Muslims conspire to protect and shelter the extremists among them. Anonymous surveys show that most sympathize with extremists and would not notify the authorities when they know about terror plots.
The Quilliam Foundation isn't a front. Do you know anything about Maajid Nawaz (the Muslim who started the Quilliam Foundation)? He was an Islamist who was thrown in prison in Egypt for a few years and came out and changed to being a secular Muslim. His foundation isn't a front. He is on the SPLC's list of bigots for speaking out against Islam and he is under a constant threat of murder from radical islamists because he speaks out against them.
And yeah, you are right.. there is a majority of Muslims in a lot of countries who might not be willing to detonate themselves in the name of the caliphate but they aren't opposed to other Muslims doing that. Nobody is saying that's not true. It is a fact that the number of people who want Islam to be a more secular religion is the minority. That is why it's important for Moderate muslims who do have the balls to speak out to do so publicly and have it be shown on TV.
Keep nitpicking dude. The idea that "Muslims" think one way or another way is irrelevant. They're one of the biggest groups in the world. Within this community there is, no doubt, a complete spectrum of opinions. We get it.
How about a little context? Most Muslims aren't denouncing terrorism. For CNN to stage a shot with the intention of creating a narrative, under the guise of an impartial news outlet, is the very definition of "fake news."
So CNN should not report on a protest that they see? If they see muslims protesting ISIS they should not report it because that's creating a narrative? So it's OK for them to report on Muslims killing people but it's dirty pool if they report on Muslims protesting the attack? Interesting. Seems like you are the one who wants a narrative.
Right now? Probably 10%ish. Every religion says they are God's perfect religion. There are already Muslim scholars working on "interpreting" the Quran and Hadith in ways that would allow for a more secular lifestyle in the Muslim community. It's inevitable that it has to happen. Either they reform their religion or they end up all losing their lives to their death cult.
There are already Muslim scholars working on "interpreting" the Quran and Hadith in ways
Yeah? And those Muslim "scholars" probably have absolutely no influence.
Either they reform their religion or they end up all losing their lives to their death cult.
Lose their lives? The Muslim population is exploding and the Western response to Muslim terror is to keep bringing more of these shitheads into the West.
Well the goal of the fundamentalists is literally to die. They want to provoke the infidels into an Armageddon battle. Soooo yeah.... lose their lives. That is the plan.
I'm not carrying water for anything. I'm just not a retard so when I see something I actually look into it before I start jerking off and getting out my notebook to write down everything I'm going to say to Alex Jones when I call into his show tomorrow.
Why on earth would they not show the larger protest with more people if that were the case? If they were able to get people from the protest and bring them to a different location, they would have just been able to pull them to the side and keep the main protest in the background.
What larger protest? They took the protestors that wanted to be on camera and put them on camera... it wasn't some massive protest... it was like a dozen people.
If this thing was a fake staged event then I'm sure they would have had 50 people on camera to show just how big of a protest there was... Instead they filmed the people who were there.. a small number of Muslims.
1) Stop using ellipses in place of periods, you twat.
2) You still didn't answer why they would stage this shoot instead of showing the actual ongoing protest. They aren't woefully incompetent enough to waste all this time and money when they could have just recorded what was already there.
Waste what time and money? It's easier to move the protestors than it is to break down all of their equipment and move to where the protest was. How is that hard to understand?
They shouldn't do this. Just film it live, even if it isn't the best shot. Too easy for a misunderstanding and too many people who want to believe it's all fake.
But they -- the protesters -- didn't have signs and were picking up one's CNN had seemingly procured. I'm still a bit dubious about the 'they're faking this' narrative but it does appear to be staged in some way.
Ehhh it's not really much of a no-no. All news do networks do this. If you take something that is real and simply move their location to get them onto camera it isn't really doing anything wrong. It would be wrong if there was just a group of people standing around and CNN said "Hey, do you guys wanna be on the news? Come stand over here and hold these signs."
It always makes me wonder, why? Why do these people have such a vested interest in helping muslims?
Google, Zuckerberg , 95% of media/hollywood, etc. all seem to have a vested interest in supporting muslims. Why? Most of them are ran by jews who should especially hate muslims.
Maybe all this virtue signalling will make people hate muslims even more which will actually help them in the end. Maybe both of them want to end western culture and so the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Who knows
Because one of the big lessons of the 19th and 20th centuries was how ugly nativist backlash can get. It's why there's a certain hypervigilance against it now.
Social status, virtue signalling, whatever you want to call it. They want to be the coolest of all their friends and be known for being so caring and tolerant. Meanwhile, most of these fuckers wouldn't cross the street to spit on most of us.
When Jews are the only problem minority they have a tendency to be expelled from 200 countries through history. Better to bring in a bunch of Muslims and let the various types of goyim duke it out for a while to buy some time.
They hate White Christians more is the best answer I've come up with. I mean think about what looms larger in Jewish memory and it isn't Islamic persecution it's Christian.
Simple: The jews want to make their problem our problem. That way we'll fight Israel's wars for them. The more muslims in the west causing terror, the more likely we'll be to rush off to the Middle East and pick a fight - a fight with Israel's enemies.
Yea, this is a nothing video and being hyped for no reason. CNN has police on scene backing up what they did it seems. Which is a let down because I hate CNN.
“This story is nonsense. The group of demonstrators that was at the police cordon was being allowed through by officers so they could show their signs to the gathered media. The CNN crew along with other media present simply filmed them doing so.”
Which seems to be clearly a lie. The protesters, from what I saw, were picking up signs as they arrived for the shoot.
Or they set their signs down while they were waiting to be told where to stand? I'm sure if you are right then somebody who was in that area will come forward and say "Hey, this is bullshit! I was downtown and there were no protestors anywhere!" OR "Hey, this is bullshit! I was downtown and those protestors didn't have any signs! CNN must have made them!"
If the protestors are real it's pretty fair to assume the signs are real too. Pretty much anyone who protests anything brings a sign.
Yeah I don't deny that. It may be all a fuss over nothing. However from the video evidence I can see a lot of people approaching an area set-up by CNN empty handed and pick up signs that have been placed in a pile for them.
So that at least, for my, suggests some elements of the event being 'staged'.
Well, like I said, if that's the case then I'm sure somebody who was in downtown London will be coming out to say that they were there and CNN manufactured the protest footage they provided.
If I was CNN and I wanted footage of a protest with signs and there was no protest so I had to make the whole thing up I'd send the people I was going to use to some area with signs and have them actually protest for a couple of hours. This way nobody could come out and say there were no protests there. Anybody who was there would see an actual protest (even if I hired people to do it) and would think nothing of the fact that protestors are now on the news. I don't think CNN would be dumb enough to just pluck up some people and hand them signs that they made.
Why does anyone care? Let the Muslims kill a couple kids and let CNN make up stories to defend them. Bill Maher can say nigger and Kathy Griffin can shove a fake severed head in her cunt. Who gives a fuck? For a bunch of fat slobs Americans have a lot of energy to give a fuck about irrelevant shit. Just eat your Taco Bell and watch your Big Bang theory and shut the fuck up.
Yeah... there is no Islamic rule in our country.. Our foot is down. If a Muslim tries to stone his wife to death for getting raped he is arrested. That isn't the case in a lot of Muslim majority countries where ISIS springs out of. That is where the problem is. That is where reformation needs to take hold.
I'm not talking about just keeping terrorist out of Times Square... I'm talking about reforming Islam in the same way Christianity is reformed so Islamic terrorism isn't a thing anymore.
So, I'm curious as to how this is different from CNN, or any other news organization, pulling anyone off the street, or into a studio, for an interview or panel. Moving people from one spot to another to talk to them doesn't change what they were going to say.
Or they set their signs down while they were waiting to be told where to stand? I'm sure if you are right then somebody who was in that area will come forward and say "Hey, this is bullshit! I was downtown and there were no protestors anywhere!" OR "Hey, this is bullshit! I was downtown and those protestors didn't have any signs! CNN must have made them!"
If the protestors are real it's pretty fair to assume the signs are real too. Pretty much anyone who protests anything brings a sign.
So CNN should not report on a protest that they see? If they see muslims protesting ISIS they should not report it because that's creating a narrative? So it's OK for them to report on Muslims killing people but it's dirty pool if they report on Muslims protesting the attack? Interesting. Seems like you are the one who wants a narrative.
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n/a deanthecleanmachine 2017-06-04
but but ... but FAUX NEWS!!!!
n/a Billyassman 2017-06-04
CNN is like the old WWF.Wolf Shitzer is their Mean Gene Oakerland.Phoney ass Jabronies.
n/a Joshua_Goodnaturedly 2017-06-04
Anderson Cooper is their Adrian Adonis.
n/a UnitedStates_America 2017-06-04
Don Lemon is Darren Young
n/a vichenleyssister 2017-06-04
and the right gets shit for exploiting....
n/a TheNigIsUp 2017-06-04
This wouldn't be a first. CNN used to have a report stand in a cheap set and say he was reporting live from Saudi Arabia during the first gulf war.
n/a YouAintGotToLieCraig 2017-06-04
Nah
https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-cnns-fake-news-broadcasts-charles-jaco-and-the-fake-live-gulf-war-reports.t1140/
n/a TheNigIsUp 2017-06-04
Egg on my face. That's what I get for reading something on something awful when I was like 13 and never looking in to it.
n/a stinksskc 2017-06-04
i work for cnn its the first-time
n/a Dennyislife 2017-06-04
I mean...who didn't think that this behind the police barrier was stage managed?
n/a whatisthishere 2017-06-04
This is blatant. Not only is this the most Alex Jones type thing I've ever seen, but Infowars has been trending on Twitter for days with some hashtag about CNN being ISIS. Now they have this video proof of CNN faking something, which people can say is CNN defending the threat.
n/a rahtin 2017-06-04
It's only the cause if you believe what the terrorists who gave their lives say they died for. Only an idiot would believe them.
n/a whatisthishere 2017-06-04
When someone says they are dying for Islam, and you say, they aren't real Muslims, that is literally one of the most basic logical fallacys. It's called "No true scotsman."
n/a TriangleDimes 2017-06-04
Fallacy talk? On Reddit?
n/a ChurchOfBaldOpie 2017-06-04
I prefer phallus talk
n/a AustinLMayes 2017-06-04
I prefer faction talk
n/a Slippery_Slope_Guy 2017-06-04
That's a slippery slope hurr durr. (I had to)
n/a steelygooch 2017-06-04
"Logical Fallacies"
I'll send you a gun if you just want to shoot yourself, we would really appreciate it.
n/a whatisthishere 2017-06-04
If someone says, Islam is the cause of this terrorism, and your response is, "no real Muslim would kill someone." That is not a logical argument.
If your argument is it's not Islam itself, it's our foreign policy, that's not the policy, but I disagree with you just as strongly.
n/a steelygooch 2017-06-04
I agree but I can picture the face of the guy saying "logical fallacy" and it pisses me off.
n/a piggyboi 2017-06-04
Dumb people are usually infuriated by smart people, so I could see why you'd feel that way.
n/a steelygooch 2017-06-04
Logical fallacy is a term dumb people use to try to sound smart
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
https://www.google.com/amp/www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-rebuts-claim-they-set-up-a-pro-muslim-shot-during-london-aftermath/amp/
This is what CNN said really happened. The TL;DR version is that there was an actual protest that was nearby. They asked the protestors if they wanted to move over to where they were going to film their live report so that they could hold their signs on camera. The protestors agreed.
n/a blackirishlad 2017-06-04
so, they're not evil just incompetent and lazy?
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
Well I dunno that it's even necessarily lazy.. As you can see in the video they have all of their equipment set up there as well as all of their electrical outlets there. They were doing live shots from that location all day. It probably wouldn't have been logistically possible to break everything down to move their report a couple of blocks away to where the protest was. Much easier to just ask the protestors if they want to come to where you're already set up.
n/a SirWallaceII 2017-06-04
Usually, when reporting, the news makes a on-location studio for their set up with proper gear and politely ask people to cosplay news for them.
n/a dmix 2017-06-04
We live in a culture that demands authenticity and slaughters companies over fake wannabe stuff. Just like Pepsi and that Kardashian sister protest clip that pissed everyone off.
This just looks really bad and phony. Show us a real clip of a real protest, that's news.
n/a deegan258 2017-06-04
That camera equipment is a pain in the ass to take apart and set up again, and these people are on a time crunch. It's a bit shitty, but understandable. Their crime is deadlines and laziness; there's no conspiracy.
n/a whatisthishere 2017-06-04
That's their defense for an obviously fake, directed, piece. Your reaction is to believe that, and defend them, even with that excuse?
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
That doesn't seem very unlikely... they had their cameras set up there all day. They have their electrical outlets and everything in that location. I don't doubt that if there was a protest nearby as they claim that they'd ask the protestors to come get into a shot for their next live report... it's just as likely as the theory that they rounded up some brown people and asked them to pretend to be Muslim protestors and crossed their fingers that these brown people can keep a secret.
n/a SirWallaceII 2017-06-04
its true, typically news gear is stationary and not designed to move around a scene or location.
Usually, when reporting, the news makes a on-location studio for their set up with proper gear and politely ask people to cosplay news for them.
n/a CoyoteeBongwater 2017-06-04
but then why do muslims kill people?
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
They get really in character when they cosplay.
n/a ajcuster89 2017-06-04
Method acting
n/a dmix 2017-06-04
Because you're not guilty enough about being white. And also because your country was evil enough to like McDonalds and Coca-cola and Santa Clause.
n/a CoyoteeBongwater 2017-06-04
I'm a nigger whos great great grandparents were stolen from africa by arabs to pick cotton for 2 decades dont put that white shit on me.
McDonalds and christmas is the shit tho, them stinky hindus are jealous
n/a dmix 2017-06-04
Well speaking of African Americans there's not much difference between the spread of Crips/Bloods and radical islam. Except one is fueled by rich Saudis and religion, blaming their shitty situation on white people so they can feel powerful but not actually get anywhere better. And the other was fueled by selling drugs to (mostly) white people, to feel powerful in gangs and ending up dead or in jail.
n/a hookahreed 2017-06-04
Explains why Jimmy couldn't get podcasting equipment into the city.
n/a AustinLMayes 2017-06-04
Everything will be different when he gets the New York studio
n/a ihaveaholeinmyass 2017-06-04
Ok guy who ruins the bit 😡
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
I can't tell what's a bit and what's not anymore. There are people going to the mat on this one because they believe it's 100% proof!!11!!! CNN = Fake News!! bigly if true!! To the Top!!!
n/a whatisthishere 2017-06-04
It's a fake political stunt caught on tape, to push their political motive. You haven't argued that, you're just arguing that they aren't 100% actors, they actually do believe the terrorist attacks were bad. Wow, what a moral high bar to set, that CNN found some Muslims who don't believe in terrorism.
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
Yeah... they are reporting on the Muslims who are protesting.. should they not report on that? They reported on the Muslims who killed people but they shouldn't report on the Muslims who are protesting because that is pushing a narrative?
n/a whatisthishere 2017-06-04
CNN has basically a stage set up, with directors and cameras. They find some Muslims who decry terrorism, and put them on the stage, so they can push their narrative that this has nothing to do with Islam. That's not real news, that is creating a narrative. The liberal narrative is that the terrorism has nothing to do with Islam, so they are creating a scene to prove that. "A picture is worth a thousand words," so they artificially create the message they want to send.
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
It's not artificial if they literally have real Muslims who were actually protesting the attacks and all they did was ask the Muslims if they want to get on camera.
If there is any hope at all for a reformation in Islam it is going to take moderate Muslims being willing to speak out against the radical shitheads who are killing people. We need moderate Muslims to see that there are other Muslims willing to get on camera and condemn ISIS without being afraid of getting their heads sawed off. I don't know why this is a bad thing. We need this to happen. We need millions of Muslims willing to speak out and push the issue of a reformation. You're never going to get that if the news never shows any Muslims doing that.
n/a whatisthishere 2017-06-04
No one is saying every single Muslim supports terrorism. People do believe Islam is the cause of acts like 9/11 though. CNN is actively trying to push against something that is true, because liberals believe racism is the worst thing in the world.
Islam isn't a race though, it is a set of ideas, which people practice and believe in. Christianity isn't treated as a race.
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
I never said that anyone is thinking that all Muslims support terrorism. The only thing I'm saying is that CNN reporting that there are Muslims protesting the terror attacks in London isn't fake news and it isn't a bad thing. It's a good thing that they are reporting that. I hope a lot of other Muslims take notice and fall in line behind that.
n/a whatisthishere 2017-06-04
Many public intellectuals have been against Christianity, and I can see the effect that has had in basically 15 years. Atheism is mainstream now in the west. That wasn't racism, they just thought the beliefs were bad.
If you argue ideas, people will change their beliefs. Nothing will change if everyone says, Islam is great, the Koran is great, we support your belief in it.
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
The reason Christianity stopped behaving like Islam is behaving now is because secular western countries said "Ok.. enough of this shit.. we aren't going to let fuckin puritans burn people alive because they believe in witches anymore... we are going to be run by secular laws and if you step out of line you are going to be punished." It was other Christians who did this. The same thing needs to happen with Islam. Moderate Muslims need to work with secular western countries to get rid of the radicals. The moderates need to take control of that religion. Having a bunch of outsiders telling them how they need to change their beliefs is only going to strengthen their resolve to fight against us. It has to be moderate Muslims that reform their religion.
n/a whatisthishere 2017-06-04
We are not outsiders in our own countries! People in their own countries need to say what is acceptable in their culture. Americans/Brits/Asians/etc must put their foot down on what is acceptable in their home.
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
Yeah... there is no Islamic rule in our country.. Our foot is down. If a Muslim tries to stone his wife to death for getting raped he is arrested. That isn't the case in a lot of Muslim majority countries where ISIS springs out of. That is where the problem is. That is where reformation needs to take hold.
I'm not talking about just keeping terrorist out of Times Square... I'm talking about reforming Islam in the same way Christianity is reformed so Islamic terrorism isn't a thing anymore.
n/a panjshirlion 2017-06-04
You're kind of arguing two different things at once.
You're both more or less agreed that there are elements of the core Islamic texts that encourage extremism and terrorism. That's pretty much inarguable.
But you're saying that "no one is saying every single Muslim supports terrorism" while getting mad at CNN for showing that not every single Muslim supports terrorism. They're making no claim about the religion itself or its texts.
n/a whatisthishere 2017-06-04
Yeah, I've already said that. If you don't see a problem with a news organization creating a narrative to support their ideological beliefs on a set, with sound guys, camera men, directors, and trying to pass it off as if what people are seeing is natural, then we can't argue this.
n/a panjshirlion 2017-06-04
If they just took the shot of those same people kind of scattered on the sidewalk, would that have been a problem?
I know what you're getting at, but I'm not sure how unusual or nefarious that kind of TV production is.
n/a whatisthishere 2017-06-04
That wouldn't be a problem, unless they were still just trying to push their political narrative. CNN isn't supposed to be partisan, even though everyone just accepts that everyone is biased now. Imagine if CNN found 12 Muslims that support the attack, and put them on a set and pushed that narrative.
n/a BradleyF81 2017-06-04
So, I'm curious as to how this is different from CNN, or any other news organization, pulling anyone off the street, or into a studio, for an interview or panel. Moving people from one spot to another to talk to them doesn't change what they were going to say.
n/a CockPoopExpress 2017-06-04
I agree and find it funny. But when you think about it, countless iconic photographs that impacted the culture were staged in similar ways. Is TV cable new held to a higher standard than Dorothea Lange? Makes a guy think.
n/a TotallyNotObsi 2017-06-04
Umm, that's how pretty much every protest is covered. They put people where the cameras can capture them. That's the entire point of field reporting.
n/a whatisthishere 2017-06-04
That doesn't explain away anything. Of course there are Muslims who decry the terrorist attacks. If CNN actively finds them and tells them to come to their set, and stand a certain way in front of their cameras, and CNN is doing it with an obvious political motive, that is not an excuse at all. I never assumed they found actors and told them to dress like Muslims, that isn't the point at all.
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
What's the point then? Muslim protestors were in the area speaking out against the attack. That's all CNN said. If these aren't actors then their report is true... having people move a block over to get on camera doesn't make the report fake...
n/a BaconAndWeed 2017-06-04
They don't have to hire brown actors and have a CNN intern making fake protest signs to be deceptive. To be fair I haven't found the actual broadcast showing how it was presented, but I bet viewers watching it at home thought they were looking at an actual protest, not a few protestors coordinated by CNN to huddle together a block or two away. It looks like CNN made an effort with the tight shot and tight pack of people to make it appear like a real and crowded protest with a lot of people involved.
Any conspiracies aside, this video clearly shows CNN staging the scene beforehand, and most probably being deceptive to the audience about the shot they were seeing.
You don't have to hire actors to "lie" or be deceptive to your audience
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
I haven't seen the report either... it was on CNN International so it didn't air in the states.
n/a Jarvismcjigglesteins 2017-06-04
Lol, you're so worked up.
CNN are incompetent faggots but who would conduct such shady conspiratorial shit in broad daylight in a city that the entire world is watching while some dipshit with a camera is filming the entire thing. It just seems a lot more logical that the protesters were asked if they wanted to be on the news.
n/a mcb84 2017-06-04
Even if this is completely true, theyre still dressing the scene with flowers and placing the protestors (notice the small child located front/center) like a film director to maximize sympathy, thus shaping the narrative.
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
Yeah.. you put the kid up front so they aren't blocked out by the taller adults... What is the issue here? They should only report about the Muslims who killed people and not report on the Muslims who are speaking out against the attack? We fuckin need moderate Muslims to see that there are other Muslims speaking out so that the moderate Muslims also start coming out and speaking out against the attacks... if there is any hope for reformation in that religion it's going to take the moderate Muslims making it happen.. they all need to feel like they can come out and condemn these attacks without being afraid of getting their heads cut off.
n/a mcb84 2017-06-04
So CNN has become a tool to promote the message of the "moderate Muslims"?
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
I wish they would promote the message of moderate Muslims coming out and saying "fuck ISIS... we need to reform our religion and help secular countries rid the world of the jihadists in our ranks." That would be a good thing.
n/a mcb84 2017-06-04
I wish they'd promote that i have a juicy pecka. the "news" is supposed to be reporting on current events not a glorified pamphlet
n/a TriangleDimes 2017-06-04
It's because those people don't exist. They only hate ISIS because they disagree with their tactics but not their goals, they would all love it if Sharia Law was the law of the land and everyone converted to Islam.
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
Not all of them but the head of the Quilliam Foundation which is a group in England working to reform Islam is a former radical Islamist who is now a secular Muslim. His message is exactly "fuck ISIS and we need to form our religion and help secular countries rid the world of the jihadists in our ranks."
n/a TriangleDimes 2017-06-04
How many Muslims have followed his lead? Because I can point to all sorts of secular Muslims who have been threatened, exiled, and otherwise ignored by the vast, vast majority of Muslims. It's impossible to secularized Islam, it's way different than Christianity and would need to change too much. Reforming Islam would be gutting it which is why no Muslims want to do it.
Precisely. Also I'd like to know which parts they want to reform. You hear about people fleeing ISIS all the time but they're fleeing bombs and bullets, not the society they came from. Every Muslim country is a backwards shithole regardless of wealth or resources, I think it's important how these people define reformation. They can be against violence but be in favor of the rest of the parasitic garbage that constitutes that religion.
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
Well it really is no different than reforming Christianity. The Old Testament is by far the most violent religious text in history. During the Crusades that is what people were following. You don't see Christians stoning people to death anymore. You don't see them burning people alive anymore (except for in some African countries). Western secular influence took hold of their religion and said "this shit isn't allowed anymore." Islam needs the same thing. Muslim majority countries need to stop living under Sharia law the same way that Christian countries had to stop living under biblical law. That only can happen if people from within the religion are the ones to force the change.
n/a TriangleDimes 2017-06-04
Incorrect, the most violent text in history is the Hadiths in the Koran and since Jews aren't out there doing the shit Muslims are doing then it's not really an Old Testament issue, is it? This is the biggest lie I see put forward by Muslim apologists, that all religions are the same. Well if they're the same then why are they different? It's a lazy atheist approximation of thousands of years of conflict and development between different systems.
The crusades were a defensive war against hundreds of years of Muslim invaders sweeping their way across Europe.
Africa, you mean where Christians are being massacred by the thousands by Muslims? This is also a dangerous game you're playing here, using things Christians don't do as an argument that Muslims.... what, might stop at some point? Once again this relies on the argument that religions are all the same which they are certainly not. And hey, maybe that big Christian reformation would have happened a lot faster in a world of internet and space travel and airplanes and vaccines.
The fact that Islam cannot reform in the modern world is a deeper strike against it. Christians behaved savagely in savage times, Muslims behave savagely in enlightened times, see the difference?
Wrong, Western secularism came from Christianity. This is why all religions are different, Christianity valued the physical objective world much greater than Judaism and Islam, this is evidenced in their art and writings. This lead to science, which started as the religious cataloging of physical phenomena and systems. Theologians and philosophers actually point to Christianity's obsession with the absolute truth as the reason it harmed itself in the long run. Western Secularism came out of Christianity, it didn't just show up one day as a battering ram. Furthermore, in the DNA of Christianity is the belief that every human being has intrinsic value, which was a new idea and one most religions and ideologies don't practice; the idea that even a criminal has value and deserves to be seen as human is an idea that's still not widely practiced today and absolutely not evident anywhere in Islam. In fact its the exact opposite.
What do you mean Biblical law? You mean the 10 commandments?
Here's a cool fact that Christianity has that other religions don't: an automatic distrust of the state, but no rules in place to become the state. Islam - as indicated by the Koran and the Hadiths especially - wants to not only become the state, but become a massive all-controlling state. Christianity introduced this idea that you ought not to worship your leaders, a leader cannot be a deity (as it was done throughout human history.) Every king is answerable to a higher power, and this idea is coded right into American democracy. Not only the mentions of religion, but the idea that all leaders are answerable to the constitution. They made a thing that not only mentions god explicitly, but positions itself above every leader or party. Up until recently most countries didn't even have anything similar to that and I would argue most countries still don't.
In short, there is no such thing as a "Biblical society" that is comparable to what Islam seeks to be, and even in places where it exists the influence is much better.
Again, because the Bible is different. It is allowed to be interpreted differently. Every Christian acknowledges this. No Muslim allows the Koran to be interpreted differently. Even Moderate Muslims understand this and agree. The later parts supersede the earlier parts, because they are the most recent. And lo and behold all the shitty violent stuff happens near the end. Mohammad beheaded 1000 people in a day. Jesus never did that. Jesus was never described as a child raping warlord. But they're all the same!
Yes. Because Muslims are fucking insane retards. Did you know the country of Spain translates more books into Spanish than all Arabic Muslim countries have translated into Arabic in over 100 years? You still don't get it: they don't want to reform. They don't want to learn, they don't want to invent, they don't want to create new shit. Islam is an anti-innovation ideology and despite what people like you say, Christianity (and Catholicism) was integral to the development of scientific thought and innovation. People look at Bible Belt evangelists like they're the norm and not the exception, but even there: those are the extremists. Those are the weirdos, the people doing fake exorcisms. The Westboro Baptist Church holds up goofy signs for YouTube. Your average Moderate Muslim is 100x more dangerous than the worst American Christian.
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
The "weirdos" in Christianity are the ones who actually follow the text... That is why they seem weird. They follow the teachings of the Bible. Secularism came about because of Christianity. It came about as an alternative. It wasn't a bunch of Christians saying "well we should really open things up to allow for a broader cross-section of beliefs." It was people saying "geez.. when we follow the bible like it's an instruction manual we end up in nonstop conflict.. maybe we oughta stop that." And this idea that "the average moderate muslim is 100x more dangerous than the worst American Christian" is retarded. The average moderate muslim isn't killing anybody. The worst American Christian is some jackass who shoots up a planned parenthood to save the fetuses. I'll take the moderate Muslim who isn't killing anybody over the retard killing people who want abortions.
And the crusades being a defensive war is true up until Christians were killing Pagans for not converting. Once Christianity was the ruling power they didn't stop and become peaceful. They went on a mission to convert everyone by force if necessary.
And believe me.. I'm not equating the religions today. Islam is by far the worst/most dangerous religion on the planet at this moment in history. I only bring up Christianity as an example of a large religion that was violent and oppressive and then changed because Christians within the religion recognized that they couldn't continue to exist in that manner. It started with a minority of Christians pushing the reformation and eventually it was the entire religion. The same thing needs to happen now with Islam. There is a minority who wants to reform the religion. It needs to spread.
n/a Sanderrankonk 2017-06-04
I wish moderate Muslims would denounce extremist Muslims, you know, in real life. They don't.
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
Google the Quilliam Foundation. Run by a moderate Muslim. The whole purpose of the foundation is to denounce extremism and push for reformation. In real life.
n/a Sanderrankonk 2017-06-04
Lol. This is a front for appearing moderate. You know there's also a foundation called Jews for Jesus right?
In the real world, "everyday" Muslims conspire to protect and shelter the extremists among them. Anonymous surveys show that most sympathize with extremists and would not notify the authorities when they know about terror plots.
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
The Quilliam Foundation isn't a front. Do you know anything about Maajid Nawaz (the Muslim who started the Quilliam Foundation)? He was an Islamist who was thrown in prison in Egypt for a few years and came out and changed to being a secular Muslim. His foundation isn't a front. He is on the SPLC's list of bigots for speaking out against Islam and he is under a constant threat of murder from radical islamists because he speaks out against them.
And yeah, you are right.. there is a majority of Muslims in a lot of countries who might not be willing to detonate themselves in the name of the caliphate but they aren't opposed to other Muslims doing that. Nobody is saying that's not true. It is a fact that the number of people who want Islam to be a more secular religion is the minority. That is why it's important for Moderate muslims who do have the balls to speak out to do so publicly and have it be shown on TV.
n/a Sanderrankonk 2017-06-04
Keep nitpicking dude. The idea that "Muslims" think one way or another way is irrelevant. They're one of the biggest groups in the world. Within this community there is, no doubt, a complete spectrum of opinions. We get it.
How about a little context? Most Muslims aren't denouncing terrorism. For CNN to stage a shot with the intention of creating a narrative, under the guise of an impartial news outlet, is the very definition of "fake news."
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
So CNN should not report on a protest that they see? If they see muslims protesting ISIS they should not report it because that's creating a narrative? So it's OK for them to report on Muslims killing people but it's dirty pool if they report on Muslims protesting the attack? Interesting. Seems like you are the one who wants a narrative.
n/a Sanderrankonk 2017-06-04
Again you have done a spectacular job of nitpicking and missing the point entirely. Keep writing long, annoying replies dude.
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
I'm not nitpicking and if one paragraph is "long" for you then that explains why you are having a hard time explaining your position.
n/a FakeTrending 2017-06-04
What percentage of Muslims do you really think want to "reform" God' perfect religion? 1%? Islam cannot even be reformed.
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
Right now? Probably 10%ish. Every religion says they are God's perfect religion. There are already Muslim scholars working on "interpreting" the Quran and Hadith in ways that would allow for a more secular lifestyle in the Muslim community. It's inevitable that it has to happen. Either they reform their religion or they end up all losing their lives to their death cult.
n/a FakeTrending 2017-06-04
Yeah? And those Muslim "scholars" probably have absolutely no influence.
Lose their lives? The Muslim population is exploding and the Western response to Muslim terror is to keep bringing more of these shitheads into the West.
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
Well the goal of the fundamentalists is literally to die. They want to provoke the infidels into an Armageddon battle. Soooo yeah.... lose their lives. That is the plan.
n/a davidfeynman 2017-06-04
You're responsible for half the replies in this thread, big boy loves carrying water for partisan establishment news corporations.
Second point, your username is memorable because I pronounce it to rhyme with faggot.
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
I'm not carrying water for anything. I'm just not a retard so when I see something I actually look into it before I start jerking off and getting out my notebook to write down everything I'm going to say to Alex Jones when I call into his show tomorrow.
n/a KingDonaldTrump 2017-06-04
Why on earth would they not show the larger protest with more people if that were the case? If they were able to get people from the protest and bring them to a different location, they would have just been able to pull them to the side and keep the main protest in the background.
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
What larger protest? They took the protestors that wanted to be on camera and put them on camera... it wasn't some massive protest... it was like a dozen people.
If this thing was a fake staged event then I'm sure they would have had 50 people on camera to show just how big of a protest there was... Instead they filmed the people who were there.. a small number of Muslims.
n/a KingDonaldTrump 2017-06-04
1) Stop using ellipses in place of periods, you twat.
2) You still didn't answer why they would stage this shoot instead of showing the actual ongoing protest. They aren't woefully incompetent enough to waste all this time and money when they could have just recorded what was already there.
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
Waste what time and money? It's easier to move the protestors than it is to break down all of their equipment and move to where the protest was. How is that hard to understand?
n/a drexler57346 2017-06-04
They shouldn't do this. Just film it live, even if it isn't the best shot. Too easy for a misunderstanding and too many people who want to believe it's all fake.
n/a literalotherkin 2017-06-04
But they -- the protesters -- didn't have signs and were picking up one's CNN had seemingly procured. I'm still a bit dubious about the 'they're faking this' narrative but it does appear to be staged in some way.
n/a piggyboi 2017-06-04
Even if that's true, it's still manipulating the image, which I assume is a journalistic no-no.
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
Ehhh it's not really much of a no-no. All news do networks do this. If you take something that is real and simply move their location to get them onto camera it isn't really doing anything wrong. It would be wrong if there was just a group of people standing around and CNN said "Hey, do you guys wanna be on the news? Come stand over here and hold these signs."
n/a ellasmitherson 2017-06-04
It always makes me wonder, why? Why do these people have such a vested interest in helping muslims?
Google, Zuckerberg , 95% of media/hollywood, etc. all seem to have a vested interest in supporting muslims. Why? Most of them are ran by jews who should especially hate muslims.
n/a frrunkis 2017-06-04
Maybe all this virtue signalling will make people hate muslims even more which will actually help them in the end. Maybe both of them want to end western culture and so the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Who knows
n/a thissiteruinedme 2017-06-04
The smart ones are paid off by political circles, the dumb ones think they're saving humanity.
n/a andrewjacksonjihads 2017-06-04
They love falafal
n/a 52017 2017-06-04
Globalism works better when there's chaos.
n/a panjshirlion 2017-06-04
Does it, though? Global disarray got people to vote for Brexit and Trump.
Global trade thrives on predictability.
n/a rahtin 2017-06-04
Yeah, the billionaire with Mafia and Hollywood ties isn't part of the global elite, he's a real rogue lol
n/a Otis_The_Axe 2017-06-04
Billionaires funded Clinton at a ratio of 20 to 1 over Trump genius. He's not in the club.
Try again.
n/a JohnQNo1 2017-06-04
You seriously believe that?
n/a Otis_The_Axe 2017-06-04
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-26/billionaire-donors-led-by-soros-simons-favor-clinton-over-trump
That's all you need to know.
Those people speak with their money. They were probably mad about Trump letting blacks and Jews into his clubs.
n/a TriangleDimes 2017-06-04
Because they thrive in chaos, in times of chaos people are easier to rule and manipulate.
n/a davidfeynman 2017-06-04
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-hating_Jew
n/a MalcolmX_InTheMiddle 2017-06-04
Notice the first verified user to come to their defense hahaha
n/a panjshirlion 2017-06-04
Because one of the big lessons of the 19th and 20th centuries was how ugly nativist backlash can get. It's why there's a certain hypervigilance against it now.
n/a ellasmitherson 2017-06-04
That's my thought too. "They" don't want the "people" to start fighting back because it would be an absolute slaughter.
n/a Barbx 2017-06-04
Social status, virtue signalling, whatever you want to call it. They want to be the coolest of all their friends and be known for being so caring and tolerant. Meanwhile, most of these fuckers wouldn't cross the street to spit on most of us.
n/a Slippery_Slope_Guy 2017-06-04
When Jews are the only problem minority they have a tendency to be expelled from 200 countries through history. Better to bring in a bunch of Muslims and let the various types of goyim duke it out for a while to buy some time.
n/a joomommyhappy 2017-06-04
They don't want to help Muslims; they need the chaos Muslims bring with them so the police state will be an easier sell.
Theresa May came out hours after the latest attack in London and put the blame squarely on..............the freedom of the internet.
n/a literalotherkin 2017-06-04
They hate White Christians more is the best answer I've come up with. I mean think about what looms larger in Jewish memory and it isn't Islamic persecution it's Christian.
n/a piggyboi 2017-06-04
Simple: The jews want to make their problem our problem. That way we'll fight Israel's wars for them. The more muslims in the west causing terror, the more likely we'll be to rush off to the Middle East and pick a fight - a fight with Israel's enemies.
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
https://www.google.com/amp/www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-rebuts-claim-they-set-up-a-pro-muslim-shot-during-london-aftermath/amp/
Here is what CNN says about the matter.
n/a turnthemaround 2017-06-04
Yea, this is a nothing video and being hyped for no reason. CNN has police on scene backing up what they did it seems. Which is a let down because I hate CNN.
n/a LinkRazr 2017-06-04
You need to be at the top. OP posted actual fake news.
n/a literalotherkin 2017-06-04
“This story is nonsense. The group of demonstrators that was at the police cordon was being allowed through by officers so they could show their signs to the gathered media. The CNN crew along with other media present simply filmed them doing so.”
Which seems to be clearly a lie. The protesters, from what I saw, were picking up signs as they arrived for the shoot.
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
Or they set their signs down while they were waiting to be told where to stand? I'm sure if you are right then somebody who was in that area will come forward and say "Hey, this is bullshit! I was downtown and there were no protestors anywhere!" OR "Hey, this is bullshit! I was downtown and those protestors didn't have any signs! CNN must have made them!"
If the protestors are real it's pretty fair to assume the signs are real too. Pretty much anyone who protests anything brings a sign.
n/a literalotherkin 2017-06-04
Yeah I don't deny that. It may be all a fuss over nothing. However from the video evidence I can see a lot of people approaching an area set-up by CNN empty handed and pick up signs that have been placed in a pile for them.
So that at least, for my, suggests some elements of the event being 'staged'.
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
Well, like I said, if that's the case then I'm sure somebody who was in downtown London will be coming out to say that they were there and CNN manufactured the protest footage they provided.
If I was CNN and I wanted footage of a protest with signs and there was no protest so I had to make the whole thing up I'd send the people I was going to use to some area with signs and have them actually protest for a couple of hours. This way nobody could come out and say there were no protests there. Anybody who was there would see an actual protest (even if I hired people to do it) and would think nothing of the fact that protestors are now on the news. I don't think CNN would be dumb enough to just pluck up some people and hand them signs that they made.
n/a forcedhammer 2017-06-04
the problem is nobody cares about CNN
n/a Clint0nBukowski 2017-06-04
You'd be surprised
n/a 52017 2017-06-04
Just a reminder:
CNN started the fake news narrative to use against Trump and it was almost immediately turned back on them for shit exactly like this.
LOL.
n/a RabboRibbo 2017-06-04
If you don't trust the corporate media, you are literally a nazi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG244HPfUpw
n/a TriangleDimes 2017-06-04
People flipped it around on them within like 4 days of them trying to make it a meme, it was the best.
n/a Good2Go5280 2017-06-04
Trump needs to tweet this.
n/a SirWallaceII 2017-06-04
CNCN
n/a timallenonacid 2017-06-04
Why does anyone care? Let the Muslims kill a couple kids and let CNN make up stories to defend them. Bill Maher can say nigger and Kathy Griffin can shove a fake severed head in her cunt. Who gives a fuck? For a bunch of fat slobs Americans have a lot of energy to give a fuck about irrelevant shit. Just eat your Taco Bell and watch your Big Bang theory and shut the fuck up.
n/a aTwinkForFez 2017-06-04
Long reply for not caring faggot
n/a timallenonacid 2017-06-04
🤗
n/a fyisah 2017-06-04
Ugh.. This will only make the Trump fags stronger.
n/a AnthonyCumiasGaySon 2017-06-04
Fuck CNN. Except for Brooke Baldwin. I would beat her pussy into a coma.
n/a VigoTheCarpethian 2017-06-04
Was this staging a scene of something already going on or completely fabricated?
n/a kickerofelves 2017-06-04
Nothing funnier than the outrage bus on this sub-reddit.
n/a Whoreses 2017-06-04
It just looks like blocking to me
n/a Leofan7 2017-06-04
What does this have to do with an off the air radio show starring a breasted gentleman and a Tunisian knife fighter?
n/a UnitedStates_America 2017-06-04
Don Lemon is Darren Young
n/a aTwinkForFez 2017-06-04
Long reply for not caring faggot
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
I haven't seen the report either... it was on CNN International so it didn't air in the states.
n/a CoyoteeBongwater 2017-06-04
I'm a nigger whos great great grandparents were stolen from africa by arabs to pick cotton for 2 decades dont put that white shit on me.
McDonalds and christmas is the shit tho, them stinky hindus are jealous
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
Yeah... there is no Islamic rule in our country.. Our foot is down. If a Muslim tries to stone his wife to death for getting raped he is arrested. That isn't the case in a lot of Muslim majority countries where ISIS springs out of. That is where the problem is. That is where reformation needs to take hold.
I'm not talking about just keeping terrorist out of Times Square... I'm talking about reforming Islam in the same way Christianity is reformed so Islamic terrorism isn't a thing anymore.
n/a BradleyF81 2017-06-04
So, I'm curious as to how this is different from CNN, or any other news organization, pulling anyone off the street, or into a studio, for an interview or panel. Moving people from one spot to another to talk to them doesn't change what they were going to say.
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
Or they set their signs down while they were waiting to be told where to stand? I'm sure if you are right then somebody who was in that area will come forward and say "Hey, this is bullshit! I was downtown and there were no protestors anywhere!" OR "Hey, this is bullshit! I was downtown and those protestors didn't have any signs! CNN must have made them!"
If the protestors are real it's pretty fair to assume the signs are real too. Pretty much anyone who protests anything brings a sign.
n/a kgt5003 2017-06-04
So CNN should not report on a protest that they see? If they see muslims protesting ISIS they should not report it because that's creating a narrative? So it's OK for them to report on Muslims killing people but it's dirty pool if they report on Muslims protesting the attack? Interesting. Seems like you are the one who wants a narrative.