Crowder on JRE yesterday- A retrospective
21 2017-02-16 by [deleted]
Joe was alpha-ing him from the beginning for sure. I wonder how much of it was Crowder being involved in martial arts and Joe wondering if he could "take him", The alcohol didn't help.
Joe came off bad by continually going back to the marijuana issue even though Crowder said over and over he didn't care about the issue.
That being said, Crowder's apparent opposition to marijuana (there's an article on his website that cites dubious facts) is weird. He mostly argued that the medical benefits claimed by marijuana are likely overblown and no more significant than an average anti-inflammatory. Even if this were true, it seems odd to be against marijuana for that reason alone.
Especially considering the interview started off with Crowder bringing a tobacco pipe and showing Joe how to smoke tobacco. How does someone who smokes tobacco, something that has NO positive attributes at all, rail against marijuana?
And then Crowder (reluctantly) admits he takes Aderall. You could tell he knew this came across hypocritically.
Neither guy came off well. Rogan was drunk and belligerent and Crowder couldn't handle being fact checked and you can tell is used to just spouting off "facts" by saying things like "they" and "the left".
Interesting listen but very uncomfortable at times.
60 comments
n/a PresidentBaseball 2017-02-16
I was waiting for your thoughts on this. Thank you.
n/a Mr702law 2017-02-16
I figured as much. No problem.
n/a peckabuns 2017-02-16
What's next, faggot?
n/a Transgendered_Chip 2017-02-16
Have you done any more movie reviews?
n/a Mr702law 2017-02-16
Coming soon
n/a OkaySeriouslyBro 2017-02-16
Granted I didn't watch the whole thing but I got the exact opposite from what I saw. Crowder was doing the shitty internet argument tactic of arguing his anti-weed points and then retreating to "I don't even care why are you so angry about it calm down lol" whenever Placebo enthusiast got too riled up and started asking him questions that didn't fit into the anti-weed agenda.
If he truly didn't give a shit about weed, he wouldn't have gotten Rogan so emotional about the issue, simple as that. He pushed the right buttons to get a reaction and then immediately turtled back to his devil-may-care attitude instead of addressing Joe's points.
n/a Mr702law 2017-02-16
i think if you kept listening you may feel a little different. Rogan kept going back to it later. I don't like Crowder and am generally ok with Rogan and at times even like him (I know, bad to say here).
n/a OkaySeriouslyBro 2017-02-16
Rogan was clearly pissed off ("you keep interrupting me stop it"), most likely because he believes he is 100% correct that there is no logical anti-weed argument to be made when cigarettes, whiskey, and prescription pills are all legal, and if you want to oppose him on that viewpoint he will attack any argument you throw at him.
So for Crowder to bring him right up to the edge of that anger, get him pissed off and ready to debate, only to go "I don't care stop being so angry lol", it's like a game that a cunt plays with her husband when she's looking for a fight. Rogan's the type of guy where once you get him angry like that, the anger doesn't just magically go away, it stews in the back of his mind, so it makes sense that he'd keep trying to back to a pure pro-pot vs. anti-pot debate.
n/a Mr702law 2017-02-16
I agree with you mostly. This is obviously an issue Rogan cares about and anyone who doesn't advocate for tobacco and alcohol to be illegal should STFU about marijuana.
The only thing I might disagree with you on is perhaps Crowder didn't know how pissed Joe was going to get. A few times he expressed surprise but maybe that was planned. He also did lead off with when asked the one thing he has changed his opinion on and wanted to talk about the least was marijuana.
n/a OkaySeriouslyBro 2017-02-16
Eh, reminded me of the difference between O&A. Anthony makes a point, some caller phones in to argue it, immediately he goes 0-100 and gets into a screaming match.
Wheres the Opster does the opposite - turtles the argument and tries to come across as cool - "so and so from Long Island doesn't like the bit WELL CHANGE THE CHANNEL THEN". No attempt to support his point or it's merits, just throwing it back in so-and-so from Long Island's face that he's refusing to defend what he's saying.
Perhaps Crowder didn't know Joe would get THAT pissed about weed, but there was clearly an attempt to push buttons and then not give Joe the courtesy of an actual counterargument. But then again, you saw the whole interview and I only saw a bit of it so you may be right.
n/a bonniesretardsister 2017-02-16
He doesn't know who he is if he didn't know Rogan flips out when drugs and atheism are challenged.
n/a BaconAndWeed 2017-02-16
Did you go back and listen to the whole thing? The subject of weed came up when Joe asked him something like what's one subject of your ideology that
n/a BaconAndWeed 2017-02-16
Did you go back and listen to the whole thing? The subject of weed came up when Joe asked him something like "what's one subject of your ideology that you went too far on and want to scale back?" Steven says weed. Joe asks what about weed and Steven says he doesn't like exaggerations about it and that accidents have gone up in Colorado. Joe then spends the rest of the podcast trying to prove Crowder is wrong about weed, a subject that only came up because Crowder said he wants to talk about it less.
They agreed on most things about weed. It wasn't pro-weed vs. anti-weed. Traffic accidents and what the word "cure" means when talking about if weed cures cancer were the 2 main sticking points. But Joe kept going back to it and eventually it was just an argument for arguments sake. I sure as hell didn't agree with Crowder everything but it only went so far because Joe was being a drunk asshole and couldn't drop it because weed is a sore spot for him.
n/a TheDarkFezRises 2017-02-16
There was a few things where Crowder really exposed Rogan, like how he pointed out his fakeness about how he talked about Bernie Sanders on the podcast versus behind the scenes. Also him being too scared to actually taje a side and pretending to be so smart and above it all.
My favorite was when Rogan kept saying "I thought we were friends" and Crowder seemed genuinely surprised when he said something like "wha are you talking about? We only met each other a coupleof times."
n/a Mr702law 2017-02-16
I forgot to mention in the recap, Rogan was flat-out insulting him-- ending rants with YOU FUCK and the like. Crowder at one point is like hey hey come on. Then Rogan tried to play it off like they are just friends and he's joking. You could tell he wasn't.
I think it was at this point when Crowder did what you're referring to: started calling Rogan out for how he conducts his podcasts and dominates conversations and sets the stage where he always looks right.
n/a LIGHTA-FLUID 2017-02-16
I'd like to agree with you, but he actually pleaded for Joe to stop 'Bullying" him and Joe retorted appropriately that Crowder was using a whiney-'leftist' tactic.
n/a Thomas_Daly 2017-02-16
I wouldn't say Crowder was whining about being bullied, he was just pointing out that what Joe was doing could be described as bully-like. I don't think it was the best word, but I get what he was trying to say. Joe was being an unnecessarily aggressive cunt and trying to talk down to Crowder.
n/a PepsiColaRapist 2017-02-16
What? Joe said I cant believe you called me a bully and he said "You are." how is that not calling him out as a bully?
n/a Eternalforms 2017-02-16
Joe 100% bullied him into drinking more than he wanted to, also. Super cringey and uncomfortable.
n/a TriangleDimes 2017-02-16
Asking Crowder to tone it back on the right wing shit is like asking Rogan to stop talking about weed and Internet videos. You know what you're fucking getting.
n/a fapworld 2017-02-16
What's with the goddamn alt-right and taking speed designed for preteens? It's almost like they suffer from some sort of arrested development that results in an entire life philosophy based in spite and reactionary ignorance, and taking Twitter seriously. It's a wonderful life.
n/a Wellshiteinabucket 2017-02-16
Are you saying Crowder is alt-right? He's just Bill O'Reilly with gelled hair. Please stop calling every conservative movement that isn't elderly women in a church pew alt-right. They literally believe in segregation and Jewish genocide. Don't throw it around lightly.
n/a fapworld 2017-02-16
I'll throw you around lightly bud
n/a Wellshiteinabucket 2017-02-16
Well if you're going to do that make it rough.
n/a clay-davis 2017-02-16
That's precisely why liberals love using the term "alt-right." It's an effective way to conflate "conservative" and "white supremacist." The two meanings are used interchangeably to maximize damage.
n/a JesusHDice 2017-02-16
Crowder looks to me like the literal example of that overused word cuck. Like while he's out humiliating himself on JRE, his wife is banging some jacked up dude with a cockring who wipes his dick on Crowder's pillow. And Crowder, he's kind of alright with that.
n/a TriangleDimes 2017-02-16
what we need is more threads about this.
n/a Mr702law 2017-02-16
Joe just apologized on IG and admits he was drunk.
n/a caradelevingneSOMF 2017-02-16
joe rogan is a faggot. crowder is a faggot. you sir, are a faggot.
n/a JoeCumiaSr 2017-02-16
Finally someone is taking some sense.
n/a Mr702law 2017-02-16
Fuck, I just remembered another weird part.
As part of a casual conversation Crowder mentions his dad had taken up some martial arts and has been doing very well. I don't remember the exact martial art.
Then Joe, looking to argue, starts talking about what a true world class martial artist in that discipline can do.. He goes on for about two minutes, contrasting this person with Crowder's elderly father who recently took up the sport as a hobby. Really just shitting on him that he's not "elite".
Crowder says " I never said my dad was world class".
It just seemed like Joe couldn't wait to shit on his dad.
n/a TheDarkFezRises 2017-02-16
"Aww you wanted to brag about your dad."
Imagine the dissection JoeRogan2 would have given this podcast.
n/a bonniesretardsister 2017-02-16
That was very weird. Rogan is kind of evangelical about martial arts and would give anybody else a "hey, that's great you and your dad are learning." He just had a hard on for him because he hates Christians and saw that dumb weed article on his site.
n/a DeclanGunn 2017-02-16
His dad does jiu jitsu I think, I seem to remember Crowder mentioned the first time he was on the JRE that him and his dad both do jiu jitsu. Crowder said he had some drama with his instructor though (big surprise) that prevented him from getting promoted.
"I wonder how much of it was Crowder being involved in martial arts and Joe wondering if he could "take him""
Not even a question, Crowder is I think a blue belt, MAYBE purple at best and that's doubtful, it's not even a contest.
n/a Fairlysquarely 2017-02-16
Joe is a two beer queer. He was probably on the verge of a blackout
n/a lifeobenreilly 2017-02-16
Don't tell Jimmy, he might talk about his addiction again!
n/a Aniemal 2017-02-16
Over-analytical cuck
n/a Mr702law 2017-02-16
This entire sub is over analytical
n/a LIGHTA-FLUID 2017-02-16
"How does someone who smokes tobacco, something that has NO positive attributes at all, rail against marijuana?"
Never spun cannabis with tobacco? So much better than just green.
n/a Clint0nBukowski 2017-02-16
not sure how many times he could say that he didn't care if people smoked weed or not. He kept saying that he doesn't care, and joe kept pushing him. He said he doesn't even like to debate it anymore because he doesn't care.
n/a majin_babidi 2017-02-16
Nicotine has positive benefits, retard.
n/a bonniesretardsister 2017-02-16
Yes. It's beautiful for dealing with stress.
n/a maynardsabeast 2017-02-16
It's beautiful for alleviating the stress caused by being addicted. It's like saying heroin has positive effects cause when an addict shoots up he isn't sick anymore
n/a bonniesretardsister 2017-02-16
Whatever, it works.
n/a maynardsabeast 2017-02-16
No it doesn't. You should quit. We look down on your kind, you look weak and stink
n/a bonniesretardsister 2017-02-16
I'll gladly take cancer over being an adult who is proud they watch pro wrestling.
n/a JoeCumiaSr 2017-02-16
Thanks for breaking that down for us partner.
n/a bonniesretardsister 2017-02-16
Same reason lots of alcoholics look down on potheads. "It's legal and yours isn't." Never underestimate the stupidity of cop worshippers.
n/a Mr702law 2017-02-16
Crowder was drinking beer and whiskey while making these statements.
n/a bonniesretardsister 2017-02-16
I'm telling Jesus.
n/a kevin121312 2017-02-16
maaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
n/a jamocha_shake 2017-02-16
Don't know much about Crowder but does he believe the bible is non-fiction like most of these right-wing fags? If so, he is to be laughed at and nothing more.
n/a SkepticSloth 2017-02-16
Reminded me of the second time Les Stroud was on - when Joe drinks, he turns into a total dick. Most shows, he's high as fuck and passive. Ruined the show with Stroud - and they were drinking that show too. They didn't start yelling like this one, but they came damned close. And the worst part, Stroud hasn't been back. His first appearance was one of the best JREs ever.
n/a Thomas_Daly 2017-02-16
how many fucking times does he need to say he's not against marijuana at all?
n/a YusufKumiya 2017-02-16
Except Christ fag Crowder never said he was "against" marijuana.
n/a YusufKumiya 2017-02-16
Crowder is correct about the overhyped medical benefits of marijuana though.
n/a MattressBoy 2017-02-16
The most annoying stoners are guys like Joe who don't start smoking until they're well into their thirties. They act like weed is the cure to all of mankind's problems and don't want to hear about negative side effects. If Joe had started smoking when he was a teenager like a real man, he probably would have already grown out of it and wouldn't be a fifty year old who spends his life in a marijuana induced fog.
n/a yellowman444 2017-02-16
What happened was crowder is trying to be the next Sean hannity and just blindly spew conservative talking points but when joe fact checked crowder was exposed
n/a nomorecompromise 2017-02-16
Ahh they were both annoying as hell. Crowder is an unrelatable smarmy little twerp and Joe is a smug domineering know-it-all.
n/a Mr702law 2017-02-16
Have you seen Crowder really give it to those snowflakes on campus??
n/a LeVampire1992 2017-02-16
it says Steven Crowder is 6'2 so Joe already had to show him whose boss.
and holy fuck are Joe Rogan fans the biggest faggots in the world or what? All bros who think they have intellect because they smoke weed.
n/a Mintyfresh03 2017-02-16
Crowder is an Abstinence-only, Christian comic faggot
n/a Eternalforms 2017-02-16
https://youtu.be/LKSTg9CgQq8?t=5143
Joe Rogan is a douche
n/a HemosPasado 2017-02-16
Crowder should have just manned up and called Joe a degenerate.
n/a AiCPearlJam 2017-02-16
To be fair, tobacco has nicotine in it, which creates a euphoric effect and has said to help creativity and thinking when used in moderation. The negatives are corporations filling the tobacco with addictive chemicals, and the fact that any smoke hitting your lungs is bad for you. But it's the reason writers and journalist usually smoke.