Jim and Sam's Show has no Fucking Energy at all

62  2017-01-28 by BillyBats33

It really hit me this past week how bad their show has become/is. It literally feels they are passing time until the next guest comes in instead of trying to put on an actual show . Little preparation and almost zero fucking energy. It sounds like neither guy is having fun or wants to be there. Scratch that...Sam tries. UNless Jimmy is talking about himslef or making any situation about himself he checks out. Which was fine when Ant and Opie were running the show and he could pop in 10 minutes before the show and chime in when he could. He now has to carry the show and self admits he has little pop culture knowledge or desire to immerse himself in anything other than his incredibly small interests.

Do a drinking game everytime Jim takes a topic Sam throws out and puts himself into it or make it about him...you won't make it until 9:03A.

One thing about Opie's show is that while the quality/humor is certainly lacking...at least it sounds like they are having fun in that studio. I actually have checked it out a few more times lately and the energy level between the two shows is night and day.

Also, Jason Ellis sucks balls. Even with this rant I wish I could hear the replay instead of his crap.

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Agreed. I love Jimmy, but everything you said you hit on the head. Sam is trying and giving it everything he's got. Unfortunately, he's the least funny guy in any room he's in.

The guests are terrible, and it's almost like they are purposely going away from good comedians who can bring up the room. I get that the days of the old school O&A guys are far gone. They all have their own stuff going on, and being up at 6am to get to a morning show isn't a priority, but shit.....get Joe List in there. Mark Normand. Luis J Gomez etc etc. There's a ton of younger comics who would love to guest host and be third mic for a full week.

Them getting some good rotating 3rd mics is really the only chance the show has at being decent. Jim and Sam by themselves became boring after like 3 shows. Unfortunately they don't seem to have any desire to do that.

I asked Jim on twitter about getting more comics in as third mic and his response was something like "I love having [blank] in, theyre not always available though" when, in reality, they could easily get a different younger comic on two or three times a week if they want.

Agreed.

I personally like the idea of one comic coming in every day as third mic. I remember 05/06 when Jimmy was off doing Lucky Louie, Burr and Patrice took turns being in pretty much all week for a few months, and that was one of my favorite times for the show. Each of those guys brought a piece of their personality to the mix, and the show for the week fired on all cylinders. Louie CK and Vos were other guys who regularly were in. Ant was like a chemelon how he adapted to those guys and ran with them. Opie.....well Opie sucks, and I hate to pull out this old gag, but he was there an hour early doing his prep, and he "steered the ship."

When Ari is on the east coast, get him in for a full week. He's a guy who's always been so loyal to the boys(especially Ant). List and Normand are younger guys I mentioned before who I'm sure would have no problems doing a week. Maybe ESD when he is on vacation from his radio job can do a week(Im sure Ant can loan him his apartment for a week as a favor Jimmy so he can do it easily without commuting to Asbury). Maybe Nick Dip can pop in for a week. A guy like Nick Mullen. Or Zac Amico. Luis J is always good. Dave Smith would be perfect for a week especially with Trump dominating the news and everything going on in that world.

I agree with all of that. I'm guessing if it was brought up to Jimmy in that way, having different guys in for a few days or a week at a time, he'd probably blame Roland or someone else.

There's no way that if they wanted comics in regularly, they couldn't get them. All of those younger comedians you mentioned are fans of Jimmy and have said how hilarious he is on the radio. They would love a shot at co hosting (or whatever the term) with him.

I don't feel like Jimmy wants that, as the chemistry between a younger comic and Sam will exclude Jim more than anything else. It can be noticed when Mullen is in.

Good point, Sams much better than Jim at adapting to whoever comes in.

Sam's can keep up when a guest mentions something current, or even something from within the past 20ish years. they were talking about TV for a few minutes earlier today and Jim brought up Taxi

You don't love the Mary Tyler Moore and Dick Van Dyke show talk?

Sam's up on current events but I feel like he's no better at discussing them than your average person would be.

Yes.. and if this pout bullshit from Jim is what's hampering the show then much sympathy for yim goes out the door due to his bitch faggot attitude about this.

It must be mentally draining for Sam to go on a high energy rant to try to get the energy levels up only to have Jim respond with a low energy throw away line.

I can already feel the resentment and awkwardness building up.

I can kind of sense it too. I think these guys genuinely like each other, but how can Sam not be at least a little annoyed at this point?

I don't think Jimmy does it on purpose in any way, but I just kind of get the feeling that he's miserable and so caught up in whatever his life is in the 156 hours a week he's NOT in the studio, that his sort of casual dismissal of everything not revolving around himself on air has to be picked up by Sam.

Plus Jimmy HAS to be making anywhere from 5 to 10x what Sam makes, and Sam is doing all the prep work.Handling all the day to day show stuff. Busting his ass so the show isn't 3 hours of them kind of awkwardly talking around each other where if the convo isn't directly aimed at Jimmy and his life or interests, Jimmy is tinkering with his phone disinterested. Half the time Jimmy is a no show on Friday and I know if I was making 1/6 of my partner and I didn't miss a show Monday/Friday EVER, and he's off every Friday....that would bug me.

Yeah jimmy is the true talent, and the reason Sam is in a big spot morning show instead of broadcasting to 1,300 people on the midnight shit show, but how far can that go without some kind of negative feelings sprouting up considering all this other stuff?

It's crazy, but all you have to do is bring Ant into the mix somehow, and this really could be an extension of classic O&A. The hour Ant called in was absolutely fantastic last week and he's the missing link to this show being great.

Give Jim a break, Sam's opinions suck. He has a smugness to most things he says that comes unwarranted especially when most come as questions trying to prompt jim to pitch in instead of trying to be creative.

They need someone else in there that is not like Sam. Also the age gap is not helpful.

The age gap shouldn't be a problem, it's not like one of them is a teenager. But one host is well into his 30's, only eats chicken tendies and has no passions outside watching men pretend to fight. Who wants to hear what that mixed raced autist has to say? He's not interesting or charming. Bobo has the Mets, and Mr Maloonigins - that's one more thing than Sam has to talk about, and he's way more fun to listen to with Jimmy.

Oh hush. Sam maintains the same level of enthusiasm and plays his part every single day. He's been the same on their worst shows as he has on their best shows. Jim is the one who doesn't bother to give 100% unless the conversation involves something that he personally finds interesting.

Oh yeah, well I don't think a fart parfait would actually be a good idea for a dessert

sams what 33? That's early 30s. He relates to Nick Mullen like they went to high school together. Jim is 48. The age gap is real numerically and culturally.

god, do people here have to over analyze everything?

They do a mediocre show, they both know it, they're both fine with it. Either listen or don't.

Me, Personally? I find it to be mostly unobjectionable background noise for working hours.

Jim said at some point he admired Ant's talent for telling a story. He can talk about how he microwaved a burrito and turn it into a 15 minute long epic that has you genuinely interested in what happened next. Jim said he didn't quite have that ability and even as a standup he couldn't do that like Ant did. I guess it's showing now more than before, which is no fault to him for being lazy or disinterested, more showing their weaknesses and the flaw of the current setup

get Joe List in there. Mark Normand. Luis J Gomez etc etc. There's a ton of younger comics who would love to guest host and be third mic for a full week.

Jim would never allow that. Remember, he's a lazy insecure twat.

The tide's not turning here, but the comments on the shows on YouTube show that people are coming to the same realization about Jim and Sam and acknowledging that Opie's show benefits from being a hang where people are having fun, partially because he can't get any real guests. For all the times Jim mentions that radio is what he wants to do and that it's his job, he does so little work to prep for the show it's embarrassing and his shtick is getting old. Sam obviously puts in a lot of work but it's so calculated it cancels it out. Neither show has that magic spark unfortunately and they'll both be cancelled and the Opie and Anthony saga will finally be over in every way and they'll all go on to shitty podcasts and pretend they're happy but deep down know the truth about their sad little lives.

I started listening to OnA around 2000 and have stuck with them through all the lineup and timeslot changes. I now listen maybe 35% to the Jim and Sam Show (definitely not when they are talking about carpets, DBoy, or mundane boring shit bc Jim has not life experiences to share) and less than 10% of Opie's show. I kinda fell in line with all the anti-Opie shit like most on this baird and did not turn on his show at all until recently and fact is, it is a much more "fun" show than Jim/Sam because I actually think Opie still gives a fuck and preps at least a hair more than Jim/Sam. It still has a hang feel, where Jim/Sam is more like a trudge through "lets get this over with."

For all the shit Opie takes he probably is right about Jimmy being miserable and it holding down the vibe of the show.

It's dbag, not dboy, ya piece of garbage

Opie has always been right about his assessment of other people. Don't let the Opie hate ever convince you otherwise.

Anthony is human garbage. Jim is a pouty baby.

I won't tolerate anything that approaches a positive comment about Opie.

Deep...

Sam obviously puts in a lot of work but it's so calculated it cancels it out. Neither show has that magic spark unfortunately and they'll both be cancelled and the Opie and Anthony saga will finally be over in every way and they'll all go on to shitty podcasts and pretend they're happy but deep down know the truth about their sad little lives.

lol.. bravo!

So this fucking sub is gonna start elevating opie. I'll have no part in it sir!

I hope that is not the outcome. Both shows are terrible in their own way.

Depends on how much fun it will be to hate Sam and Jim. Even hating Opie is fucking mediocre at best. Loving him to spite others might turn out perfect.

Can you imagine the secret ire that would cause Trant, aids-jim and negroid clown?

This place is 4chan cancerous without all the tech-savvy.

God bless.

Yeah, 4chan's problem is underage, i think this sub is probably geriatric.

If you're saying anything good about Opie's show, then I hope you get raped by a pack of niggers

Male or female?

Absolutely. Sam is basically a producer who was occasionally good for a few minutes on the air shit-stirring or chiming in with youtube clips. His horrendous, nasal voice aside...he has no business being on a radio show, let alone presenting it.

Sam was always Opie's boy. This has two results - 1) Sam has no business being on-air, let alone a presenter. 2) This is why Sam will never publicly bash Opie. Sam is marginally less awful than Tits, but they're cut from the same cloth.

Purrrroud of your boyyyy

I think what Jim Norton needs to do is become a Hollywood A lister. I think that would cheer him up.

He would get annoyed with himself for wanting to take so many selfies.

Jim Norton has the looks and animal magnetism of a young Marlon Brando mixed with the dangerous brooding air and sly wit of Sean Connery.Jim Nortons Hollywood's best kept secret and as soon as the right script comes along his star is going to shine insiders have told me.......Move over DiCaprio someones here to take your crown buddy Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha.

Could you imagine him on a poster?

Jim Norton has the looks and animal magnetism of a young Marlon Brando mixed with the dangerous brooding air and sly wit of Sean Connery.Jim Nortons Hollywood's best kept secret and as soon as the right script comes along his star is going to shine insiders have told me.......Move over DiCaprio someones here to take your crown buddy Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha.

I enjoyed hearing Jim complain like a baby boy about something he wasn't happy about with the company. He was being cryptic which was something he really dug into Greg for. Also gals he stopped pretending the name didn't bother him. It took Anthony coming on the air and making fun of it for him to admit it. May as well name it the Jason Ellis channel.

Any further ideas what this was about? Jim was really bummed about something but I could figure out what.

My guess - that Ellis is favored by management, or the J & S Show isn't getting enough replays (hence less exposure of Jim's career and fewer plugs), or he senses the J & S Show just isn't working.

Jim has often claimed to be at his best as a "reactive" comic, playing off others. Maybe he feels Sam isn't ever going to be the springboard for good stuff.

Also, the interviews and the political stuff is falling flat and there seems to be fewer big name guests.

Just guesses.

I could definitely see Ellis being favored. I'm still wondering what it could be. I still enjoy all the shows but I was most excited for Jim and Sam and I'm super bummed that it's the show I enjoy the least. Which shocks the hells out of me.

Special Delivery with Sam and Dave was about 10 times better than Jim and Sam is, and Sam was not any different on that show. Jim is just unbelievably terrible as a second mic.

The chemis-tree between Jim and Sam just ain't the same. Sam is just a glorified O&A superfan he made his way on to the mic. He knows he isn't on Jim's level and it's evident in their exchanges, which unfortunately lets Jim get away with talking about himself non-stop and turning the whole show into a three month long interview with himself.

Special Delivery was so good. most of the shows are up on archive.org

East Side Dave, love him or hate him, he can milk a topic like non other while raising his own blood pressure.

he milks more than just topics

You mean big juicy peckers right?

Yeah it feels like they just roll into work and wing it for two hours hoping that something will stick.

Seriously the best summary I've read on this sub about where the show is.

I've been saying since week one that Opies show is better. Jim & Sam suck at radio.

Sam can talk for hours. It may not be anything noteworthy. 1% might be interesting, but the rest is all filler. Jim is used to chiming in on halfway decent topics, but Sam and his afternoon crew do not interest Jimmy Nordon.

If Sirius invested the money to bring back Ant...I'd likely be very interested in listening. As it stands, I've got 3 subs and they are all going to stop at the next renewal. The channel is shit and the rest of their content I can get for free elsewhere more-or-less.

Don't you dare say that Opie's show sounds like they're having fun and be serious. So is Scott and Todd. And every other zoo crew.

If Opie went really hard into making a cuss filled crude zoo crew radio show I feel it would be 1.34 times better than other shows on the channel.

Opie's show now is worse than Bob and Tom in their prime. The fake laugh from Mad Cuban and Vic is just confounding. I usually cannot even figure out what they're laughing at, at all. I seriously find it entertaining how awful the show is. How it has become everything Opie used to mock, but worse.

It;s even more weird when you haven't listened to his shit in months and stumble on a new show. It's like... peckas n shit

What's going on here? I see a lot sneaky opie praise by names I don't recognize. And they all have lots of upvotes.

its a conspiracy mahnnnnn

They both lead really boring lives, which is amazing considering their status. Sam is a D lister in the professional wrestling world, but he will never give you anything interesting there so he can get free DVD's and dolls and maybe tickets. Jim travels quite a bit but by his own admission he doesn't embrace or partake in anything. Neither one drinks, so none of the dumb, mistake laiden stuff Anthony might have contributed. They're just fucking bores.

Sam talking about how he follows juicy wrestling arguments on facebook as a way to relate to Mullen's social media trolling stories really drilled home how fucking boring and empty his life is. The twitter posts bragging about playing console games while eating pizza and soda seal the deal.

They aren't dolls they are action figures. Little babies play with dolls.

I don't listen to either, but based on the times I've heard either show: Jim & Sam show is dark, broody, and occasionally interesting and funny (like Mr. Robot). Opie's show is a lot of energy, noise, phony excitement and lots of fake laughter (like the last season of American Idol).

I don't listen to Opie's show but I did watch his interview with Cody Garbrandt (UFC Champion) and it was so much better than Jim's interviews with him on both his UFC podcast and radio show. Cody also seemed to enjoy his time with Opie a lot more as well.

I just think Jim is bad at leading interviews, but that is pretty much all he does now.

Dassasleepshow

I wish I listened more often so I could give a more brutal critique. But I've listened enough to realize the accuracy of your comments.

The most heinous, impossible to ignore, and thing which will stick in the minds of the people who read this (note: the entire JAM staff and Jim and Sam as well) is the comment about Jim (A) making it about himself and only able to be bothered to relate if it's made about himself and (B) the fact that he openly states that he's actively hostile to anything new in the culture. And to act like his generation/era is better is just a disgusting self delusion. What, your corny ass fucking 80s death rock, "JUST LIKE WITCHES IN BLACK MASSES" you fucking 13 year old? If I'm honest, Ant had a more assertive command of the 60s-80s pop culture in a way that had a glean of a lost golden era about it. When Jimmy talks about television, film, or music it just sounds like some schmuck picking through the rubble of the working class environment he spent his formative years in. That description may fit Ant too but he has some insight and genuine connection with the pop culture of his era. Jim...noted celebrity botherer... I just never got that from you.

The whole Nick Mullen "how do I edit video on my iphone while, in the process of discovering this googleable tech conundrum, rudely disrupt a guest appearance for 40 minutes until the show is over?" debacle highlighted, underscored, spotlighted, but plugged the weird fact that Jim is contending with a toxic personal issue of stubborn refusal to engage and relate with current media and pop culture happenings. If you want to hang up the coat and coast during work and get your paycheck each month or whatever, fine. But that stopped working when you chose to join up with Sam and prove Gregg wrong. This is on you now. When you say on twitter "I honestly love doing the show" or "I love what I do" it comes across as a desperate mood-bosting mantra that you repeat to distract yourself from the harsh reality of what you're doing and where you and Sam are going.

Fuck, you nailed it so perfectly! You just made me realize that while I love Jimmy, the thing that I find almost impossible to get past is how ignorant he is to technology, music and culture outside of his 1986 bubble but he will completely ridicule everything else like everyone agrees with him. He's completely out of touch and we are the same age.

"JUST LIKE WITCHES IN BLACK MASSES you fucking 13 year old" thanks for stealing a really good colin quinn line mencia

It was a direct reference to CQ. THat was the point.

so is a direct reference just reusing peoples lines now and hoping no one heard it before ? boooo stay online hack

are you being serious?

this is life or death, man

I'm glad you got the reference. I'm sad you mistook it for an attempt to sneak a stealin. And I'm saddest of all for how your life must be that you're this angry on a Saturday morning.

Good day!

your forced rants don't work. keep your day job.

I am sincerely sorry about your life.

nobody cares what you think. get used to it stupid

Your life of sorrows is hurting you and those in your life. Get to work on it.

wow. powerful stuff there. you really held a mirror up to me. i realize the error of my ways. haha "your life of sorrows"? what a dramatic little fag.

lol mad faggot

you lost

"haha dramatic fag my life is great not shitty like you say"

what did you mean by that

"how do I edit video on my iphone while, in the process of discovering this googleable tech conundrum, rudely disrupt a guest appearance for 40 minutes until the show is over?"

i love how you don't know what quotation marks mean. LOL.

You're steaming mad. The fact that you can't put together a paragraph worth of thought to express yourself is making the pain unbearable for you.

Now get to work on your life. Lord knows you have your work cut out for you.

You know you lost. just give up buddy, steal a line, or make up a quote, like you've done this entire time. or just sarcastically say you feel bad about me. GOODMORNING

lol

most original thing you said all day

I am unsarcastically sorry about your life. You need to be worrying about winning and losing in that context, not this one.

desperately trying to take the highroad dosnt work on the internet. try a new response you redundant dummy

good luck

thanks, but i can shut you up without it.

go away you walking corpse irritant

overdose and be done with it, no one will miss you.

well jim's just so tired

But Jimmy's tired!

I absolutely hate when you can tell they have no idea to fill time at the end of the show without guests so they get Travis, D-bag, or Roland in studio and just tease them for 30 minutes until the show ends. Opie was notorious for doing this towards the end of Opie & Jim but Jim and Sam are doing the exact same thing and it's so fucking boring.

fucking hell all you guys do is complain

Sirius XM just need to make a ballsy move and get Cumia back on with them. The show would slay. Trump is President now, the SJW crowd has other things to focus on

Sam just stinks. His voice is unpleasant, he had a sheltered childhood, and his whole education and professional life has been radio. No one ever heard him and thought "this guy is good, I hope he does more radio", he got into the business the way Opie did - by eating shit for years and being able to turn on the mic for someone funny.

I hate Sam and take comfort knowing his awful show won't last and his marriage will inevitably fall apart. And that, my friends, is P! F! G!

he got into the business the way Opie did - by eating shit for years and being able to turn on the mic for someone funny.

fucking jej these replies are killing me in this thread hahhahyaha

Tits (Irrespective of how much he annoys most of the listeners) was right....Worm should have gone to Ant,But Jim wanted security,mornings and No Opie.Sirius obliged and now the Morning show is shit. The Afternoon show,irrespective of very annoying individuals,is a better show. The sum is greater than its parts.

This sum of this post, irrespective of its parts, is shit. Irrespeectively.

It's awful. They routinely pick one viral video and spend an hour dissecting it. Like the guy with the large penis in Mexico. That should have been a 10 minute segment. They spent literally 50 minutes on it.

I predicted eventually you queers would realize this show sucks and turn on it...your gay fervor against Opie has a limited shelf life.

All these shows suck at this point. Just waiting for the O&A reunion.

rubbish.

I disagree that the show sucks that hard- but it is missing something. All it needs is a third mic- someone to be the Anthony or the Jimmy of the new show (if Jimmy is the new Anthony)

I officially cashed in and am now relistening to old O&A shows when I need my fix.

Jim needs another funny person to bounce off of. They should rehire Ant and put him in there.

Sam has no talent.

It's Jimmy. Besides his funny lines once in awhile. He is a bore and barely prepares or remembers anything. Sam will bring up a topic from a day before and Jimmy won't remember talking about it.

He's very self-centered. I felt bad for his old comic buddy that came in and Jim didn't remember any of his stories.

Jim also is not very funny on the show. I would say Jimmy has lost his ability to be funny, but he was very funny on Matarese podcast. He does that stupid baby boy character way too much. Another problem with the show is the lack of quality comedian guests. They should be filling the show with top comedian guests. But they are rarely on. Vos has been on Opie's show more than he's been on Jim and Sam.

It sounds exactly like they're just running the clock down until Opie and Ant get back from Vacation.

The Sam & Jim Show is often very cringe worthy. As several people have said, you can hear the energy and effort in Sam's voice but if they're not talking to a tranny or an MMA fighter, then Jimmy is too busy checking his phone. Anytime Sam tries to talk about something, Jimmy always finds a way to make it about himself for some stupid joke

Sam: So, over the weekend there was this person who [do something, let's call it xyz]'d.

Jim: Yeah, I [xyz]'d all the time in high school.

Sam: (fake laugh) You did not.

Jim: Sure, I did. My name in high school was the [xyz] Kid.

Sam: (more fake laugh) That was really your name?

Jim: Oh yeah, we would [xyz] then (insert play on words) [zyx].

Sam: (fake laugh) Why would you do that?

And now what started out as a story about someone else has been brought back around to the attention whore that is Jim Norton. It's old and tired.

Opie's show is by no means perfect, but it's definitely more fun.

Haha, that example is crazy now you nailed it. I'm so tired of hearing that "riff" 6x a day.

Sam is an awkward nerd who has no business running a show like this. No wonder it sucks dick.

Bad idea to make Sam a co-host of a morning show.

Jim is an old man riddled with aids. Cut him some slack.

I'm one of the only persons on this sub who've consistantly sided with sam. I genuinely like him. I do agree that he's a dweeb and his voice probably is harsh on the ears. But his scheming bullshit and gift of gab almost always makes me laugh. And he's always had a very good way of setting up jokes for other people.

But the show's quality really hinges on Sam squeezing as much yuma out of Jim as possible, and if his energy and current events/pop culture knowledge isnt there, i imagine that it will be hard.

Jim and Sam on the Jason Ellis channel.

I was all in until you started praising how "fun" opies show is...

Whoever thought any of these guys can carry a show by themselves was delusional.

It's dbag, not dboy, ya piece of garbage

Opie has always been right about his assessment of other people. Don't let the Opie hate ever convince you otherwise.

Anthony is human garbage. Jim is a pouty baby.

Sam talking about how he follows juicy wrestling arguments on facebook as a way to relate to Mullen's social media trolling stories really drilled home how fucking boring and empty his life is. The twitter posts bragging about playing console games while eating pizza and soda seal the deal.

he got into the business the way Opie did - by eating shit for years and being able to turn on the mic for someone funny.

fucking jej these replies are killing me in this thread hahhahyaha

It was a direct reference to CQ. THat was the point.

you lost

good luck

They aren't dolls they are action figures. Little babies play with dolls.