Going to college without getting into massive debt is fairly easy. You go to Community College for the 1st 2 years, live with your parents, and work. Then you transfer to a 4 year school that is fairly close, and commute from your parents house. That's what I did. And had almost no debt. But most people want the "college experience". And the college experience is expensive.
Yes! I say this all the time. If money is an issue, you SHOULD NOT be going to university for four years. Go to community college. Transfer. And work and/or live at home so
Your loans are tuition only, not living expenses. In the end you'd owe 15-20k tops.
Most people's loans are all the extra money they let you take for room and board.
personally i found the community college setting more rigorous in science and math because of the smaller class size. they can really look over your shoulder in a room of 24. everything else seemed a bit equal.
also, at CC they don't coddle you. a good amount of students are older and have already seen a bit of life. they don't care about being inclusive all that much or hurting your feefees (not that they're trying to).
went from community college and into "big university" science classes, and yeah they kinda do treat you as if you're a child because most everybody is. substantially more scantily dressed girls though... so there's that.
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fucking idiot communists thinking capitalism invented the idea of debt. i guess that's why all those communist countries have no debt and everything works out.
lol, yeah crack that whip massa. You can tell no one in that sub is an econ major because the idea of net worth and wealth are clearly interchangeable to them.
Fuck college. Learn a trade. Or don't and just work regular gigs like I did. My father is a PhD college professor and I have a higher net worth than him at 28 years his junior. He has no other kids and his wife also works, yet together, they're not doing as well as me financially. I'm no fucking investing whiz. I'm a fucking bar bouncer. A lot of Academians are just shitheads when it comes to thinking practically. Some have this laissez-faire kind of attitude because in their minds, they feel that their education excuses them from hard work.
Yeah, it was a very broad usage whereby I meant relaxed, free, and easy. Anyway, I have no use for someone with 12 years of adult education who can't even buy a co-op or a townhouse. Miss me with that. Miss me with going to college for 4 years to come out working as a barista or standing in Zuccotti Park with a bunch of malconted creeps and faggots. From my persective, unless we're talking one of maybe 20-25 collegiate career paths, you're better off learning how to fix toilets or elevators.
Capitalism gives you the option to opt-out of debt by not going to college. A communist country would force everyone to go to college and accept debt. Or it might keep colleges from being profitable enough to exist and therefore erase all opportunity to accept dept. But it wouldn't give you money and a degree and that awesome life you're owed by simply existing.
Of course the commies didn't include each person's share of the national debt, which doubled after our first mulatto president screwed up our credit. Not that it matters. It's not like we're ever going to be able to pay it off. If we go down, we're taking the rest of the world with us.
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32 Joemomma101 2016-12-11
Going to college without getting into massive debt is fairly easy. You go to Community College for the 1st 2 years, live with your parents, and work. Then you transfer to a 4 year school that is fairly close, and commute from your parents house. That's what I did. And had almost no debt. But most people want the "college experience". And the college experience is expensive.
13 Mr702law 2016-12-11
Yes! I say this all the time. If money is an issue, you SHOULD NOT be going to university for four years. Go to community college. Transfer. And work and/or live at home so Your loans are tuition only, not living expenses. In the end you'd owe 15-20k tops.
Most people's loans are all the extra money they let you take for room and board.
5 blackirishlad 2016-12-11
personally i found the community college setting more rigorous in science and math because of the smaller class size. they can really look over your shoulder in a room of 24. everything else seemed a bit equal.
also, at CC they don't coddle you. a good amount of students are older and have already seen a bit of life. they don't care about being inclusive all that much or hurting your feefees (not that they're trying to).
went from community college and into "big university" science classes, and yeah they kinda do treat you as if you're a child because most everybody is. substantially more scantily dressed girls though... so there's that.
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3 c0up0n 2016-12-11
You can also join the military for a few years and then get paid to go.
16 TotallyNotObsi 2016-12-11
Or die in the middle east. Which is nice.
1 Yujiro_Hanma_ 2016-12-11
Same here. It's the siren song of grad school where they bend you over and fuck ya.
18 TriangleDimes 2016-12-11
fucking idiot communists thinking capitalism invented the idea of debt. i guess that's why all those communist countries have no debt and everything works out.
7 hookahreed 2016-12-11
LSC is a very short-sighted sub.
13 yeahheymate 2016-12-11
maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan
10 shmigshmog 2016-12-11
"Debt is the modern equivalent of slavery"
lol, yeah crack that whip massa. You can tell no one in that sub is an econ major because the idea of net worth and wealth are clearly interchangeable to them.
7 KuukerinNelli 2016-12-11
I don't know which system is better, yours or our with "free" schooling and "free" healthcare. We get taxed and I mean TAXED up the ass for it.
7 F_H_Rileys_MaitreD 2016-12-11
Fuck college. Learn a trade. Or don't and just work regular gigs like I did. My father is a PhD college professor and I have a higher net worth than him at 28 years his junior. He has no other kids and his wife also works, yet together, they're not doing as well as me financially. I'm no fucking investing whiz. I'm a fucking bar bouncer. A lot of Academians are just shitheads when it comes to thinking practically. Some have this laissez-faire kind of attitude because in their minds, they feel that their education excuses them from hard work.
5 Acatalepsia 2016-12-11
You misused laissez-faire.
Source: academic shithead, me et al., (2016).
3 F_H_Rileys_MaitreD 2016-12-11
Yeah, it was a very broad usage whereby I meant relaxed, free, and easy. Anyway, I have no use for someone with 12 years of adult education who can't even buy a co-op or a townhouse. Miss me with that. Miss me with going to college for 4 years to come out working as a barista or standing in Zuccotti Park with a bunch of malconted creeps and faggots. From my persective, unless we're talking one of maybe 20-25 collegiate career paths, you're better off learning how to fix toilets or elevators.
5 thee_tOECUTTEr 2016-12-11
Pinko scum
5 thissiteruinedme 2016-12-11
Capitalism gives you the option to opt-out of debt by not going to college. A communist country would force everyone to go to college and accept debt. Or it might keep colleges from being profitable enough to exist and therefore erase all opportunity to accept dept. But it wouldn't give you money and a degree and that awesome life you're owed by simply existing.
5 MattressBoy 2016-12-11
Of course the commies didn't include each person's share of the national debt, which doubled after our first mulatto president screwed up our credit. Not that it matters. It's not like we're ever going to be able to pay it off. If we go down, we're taking the rest of the world with us.
2 thrillated 2016-12-11
Really makes you think.
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1 puppy_action_team 2016-12-11
Free education devalues the degree you earned. Get rid of college loans and you will have a better chance of finding a job
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16 TotallyNotObsi 2016-12-11
Or die in the middle east. Which is nice.