It's hilarious how all the Cumia-type dipshits, claiming they're "fighting double standards", are basically saying "HEY! That guy whined pathetically and looked like a retarded asshole, I should be able to look like a retarded asshole and whine pathetically too!!!!"
What was further needed to meet requirements for fair hiring practices, however, according to Actors' Equity, was an addendum to the effect of: "Performers of all ethnic and racial backgrounds are encouraged to attend." It was added, making any subsequent controversy moot.
This is why I fucking hate Snopes. It's that last line. So I guess if a frat was recruiting only white people and then, after being found out, suddenly said "oh we're for everyone now" there would be nothing left to talk about? Fuck you.
Similar shit happens all the time. It's like the oldest technique of getting away with being a bigot. You say something offensive and when someone calls you out, you just say "I don't mean it like that. I love those peope."
Japan is a more homogeneous country than the US. And I was talking about the roles of minority characters frequently being given to white actors. There is still at least one movie every year that causes a hullabaloo when they put a white actor in yellow face. But that's okay because clearly it was a meritocracy and a better actor got the job... unlike when they pander to SJWs by casting a black actor in the role of a white character.
I only care when it's based on ideology. Christian Bale as Moses has NOTHING to do with 'Whites first' ideas and everything to do with practicalities. Hamilton as some scummy mulatto has EVERYTHING to do with ideology. That's the difference.
Yeah. They just exclude them without saying it. The mistake the Hamilton crew made was openly stating their intentions instead of quietly passing over white actors.
It is against federal law to only have a job opening for a specific race. The producers of Hamilton essentially said "we're only hiring minorities." That's a huge no-no.
Even if your role is for a specific type the casting call has to be open to all.
Imagine the backlash if you had an ad that said "Whites Only." There would be hell on earth. But Hamilton got a major pass in the media/news for no reason other than it was reverse discrimination.
If they decide to do a biopic on Kurt Cobain, do you think any black actors are gonna be considered to play Kurt? How about Princess Di? John F Kennedy?
I'm sorry but this shit is as fucking stupid as when men sued Hooters for not hiring them as Hooters waiters. ITS A HIP HOP MUSICAL
Oh my god. Dude I'm white, like I'm a white guy who despises SJWs and you're fucking just like them right now with your hypocritical bullshit.
Didn't see a lot of black people on Friends, did ya? Big Bang Theory? Modern Family? Does it really offend your delicate white boy sensibilities that some Latino would dare to write a musical that's gimmick is the all-white founding fathers being portrayed by GASP minorities! Then that musical would become super fucking popular, talk of the proverbial town, sold out for two years or whatever it is.
Like they're always going off about white privilege, and while it's an annoying concept you're an utter bottom bitch if you get offended at stupid fucking Hamilton not wanting to cast white actors. There have been PLENTY of movies and TV Shows and plays and musicals and whatever that have only featured white actors, let them have their hip-hop musical and choose your fucking battles.
ALL'S I'M TRYING TO FUCKING SAY IS THAT IT'S TOTALLY NOT A WASTE OF TIME TO LET A BLACK WOMAN AUDITION FOR THE ROLE OF STEVE JOBS. HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT MR JOBS WASN'T A BLACK WOMAN? YOU DON'T, FAGGOT!
Hot Hollywood gossip: Lupita Nyong'o auditions for the role of Marlon Brando. If they didn't make the casting call open to all races, that would be SEXIST!
It's not a "gimmick" when you actively close casting to minorities only. You cannot do that. There are a plethora of state and federal laws that forbid it.
I'm highlighting a hypocrisy. I'm white. I can't create an ad hiring only "white" secretaries. I'd be hit with all sorts of fines and could potentially lose my license.
If I have to follow the rules, then minority employers should have to follow the rules, too. The end.
YES YOU FUCKING COULD UNDER THE RIGHT CIRCUMSTANCES YOU UTTER PINHEAD
Go to the local theater, say you want to put on a production of Frost/Nixon. Put in ad in the paper casting for this specific play, news flash asshole, there aren't gonna be black ladies circling the ad with a fucking highlighter because Latisha Washington can really prove to you that she's gonna be the best RICHARD FUCKING NIXON.
This isn't hiring secretaries, it's a fucking work of fiction with specific parts which are supposed to be played by specific races. Learn the difference.
I assume you're referencing BFOQ - which allows employers to hire "types" of people if the "role" calls for it.
From Wikipedia:
While religion, sex, or national origin may be considered a bona fide occupational qualification in narrow contexts, race can never be a BFOQ.
There ARE narrow exceptions for art - but the hiring process needs to be open for all to apply. The producers can then determine the actor doesn't fit the role.
I'll reiterate: if a producer is going for a look, there are plenty of non-minorities that can pass for minority (Italians, Greeks, etc). If these people are passed up based on their race alone (and not their talent) then that is discrimination.
That is why it is extremely difficult to advertise "this race only."
Again, the only mistake they made was being open about. This happens all the time in Hollywood, behind closed doors. If you think you have some kind of legal case, sue them.
That's fucking dumb. You should be able to employ who ever the hell you want. I'm white as fuck and I just think it's retarded. If I'm making a movie and I know the a certain role needs to go to a black guy (convict, drug dealer, etc) why the hell would i cast it to anyone but black peoples. I fucking hate political correctness.
BFOQ is a permitted consideration after everyone applies for the job. You cannot limit the hiring process to one group. Everyone applies, then you consider BFOQ.
Not the other way around.
You can justify your hiring by using BFOQ. But the hiring process has to be open to all to apply.
Why is that? Why can't you limit your applicants to a certain group? It's your money you are paying them. Pathetic. It actually makes me mad how sensitive and gay we are as a society sometimes.
The whole fucking gimmick of the show is casting non-white actors who can rap as the founding fathers. What's the next target for the alt-right, not enough white people in Madea movies? Fuck off.
You can't discriminate in your hiring practices. There aren't exceptions.
The producers can look for a "type" but the casting call has to be open to all.
If you're looking for a "minority" - you're hiring based on race. That's illegal. What if an Italian or Greek looks Puerto Rican? Should they be excluded from the job because they aren't minorities?
Stop with your shitty technicalities. "Oh they disclosed it on the casting call we fucking got them!" Do a biopic on Wayne Gretzky, hire a white actor. Do a biopic on Michael Jordan, hire a black actor. You're gonna read Shia Lebouf for the role of Jordan? Maybe if he impresses but doesn't get the main role, you can offer him Pippin? Is that the way entertainment works or can you understand that the gimmick is casting the all-white founding fathers as rapping minorities and you getting OFFENDED at that being allowed to exist is so fucking pathetic.
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19 ihaveaholeinmyass 2016-11-30
I don't give a shit cuz I'm a white male and my life is fuckin awesome
5 packitchofsositch 2016-11-30
It's hilarious how all the Cumia-type dipshits, claiming they're "fighting double standards", are basically saying "HEY! That guy whined pathetically and looked like a retarded asshole, I should be able to look like a retarded asshole and whine pathetically too!!!!"
6 3stepsbackward 2016-11-30
What a who gives a fuck thing to care about.
4 John_Gulbunny 2016-11-30
Because white people only get offended on behave of other people, also because it's a shit play not on anyone's radar
3 YouAintGotToLieCraig 2016-11-30
There was. This made the news like a year ago.
2 BeMineYouGoose 2016-11-30
Fucking this faggot.
2 literalotherkin 2016-11-30
This is why I fucking hate Snopes. It's that last line. So I guess if a frat was recruiting only white people and then, after being found out, suddenly said "oh we're for everyone now" there would be nothing left to talk about? Fuck you.
1 TinKnockinMoroccan 2016-11-30
Similar shit happens all the time. It's like the oldest technique of getting away with being a bigot. You say something offensive and when someone calls you out, you just say "I don't mean it like that. I love those peope."
2 UnwarrantedArrogance 2016-11-30
I'm not racist, some of my best friends are niggers.
2 Billyassman 2016-11-30
The juggalos are really pissed. Mass demonstration coming to the great gay way
2 iWhereSchortSchorts 2016-11-30
How the fuck do magnets work?
0 9NepaliRed6 2016-11-30
Racism against whites, especially white men, is something liberals love and applaud. These leftists are very akin to Hitler.
0 aprosbro 2016-11-30
Why would there be outrage?
-1 TinKnockinMoroccan 2016-11-30
Who cares? Hollywood gets away with casting white actors in favor of minorities all the time.
3 literalotherkin 2016-11-30
You know the biggest problem is Japanese cinema. They're constantly casting Japanese people. It's fucking racism I tell you.
1 TinKnockinMoroccan 2016-11-30
Japan is a more homogeneous country than the US. And I was talking about the roles of minority characters frequently being given to white actors. There is still at least one movie every year that causes a hullabaloo when they put a white actor in yellow face. But that's okay because clearly it was a meritocracy and a better actor got the job... unlike when they pander to SJWs by casting a black actor in the role of a white character.
1 literalotherkin 2016-11-30
I only care when it's based on ideology. Christian Bale as Moses has NOTHING to do with 'Whites first' ideas and everything to do with practicalities. Hamilton as some scummy mulatto has EVERYTHING to do with ideology. That's the difference.
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-2 TinKnockinMoroccan 2016-11-30
Yeah. They just exclude them without saying it. The mistake the Hamilton crew made was openly stating their intentions instead of quietly passing over white actors.
0 _TheConsumer_ 2016-11-30
The Equal Employment Opportunity Center cares.
It is against federal law to only have a job opening for a specific race. The producers of Hamilton essentially said "we're only hiring minorities." That's a huge no-no.
Even if your role is for a specific type the casting call has to be open to all.
Imagine the backlash if you had an ad that said "Whites Only." There would be hell on earth. But Hamilton got a major pass in the media/news for no reason other than it was reverse discrimination.
7 OkaySeriouslyBro 2016-11-30
If they decide to do a biopic on Kurt Cobain, do you think any black actors are gonna be considered to play Kurt? How about Princess Di? John F Kennedy?
I'm sorry but this shit is as fucking stupid as when men sued Hooters for not hiring them as Hooters waiters. ITS A HIP HOP MUSICAL
-1 _TheConsumer_ 2016-11-30
So we're justifying Washington and Hamilton being black because the play uses rap? There are no white rappers?
This is a ridiculous argument. The cast being minority is a political statement and a huge fuck you to white society.
6 OkaySeriouslyBro 2016-11-30
Oh my god. Dude I'm white, like I'm a white guy who despises SJWs and you're fucking just like them right now with your hypocritical bullshit.
Didn't see a lot of black people on Friends, did ya? Big Bang Theory? Modern Family? Does it really offend your delicate white boy sensibilities that some Latino would dare to write a musical that's gimmick is the all-white founding fathers being portrayed by GASP minorities! Then that musical would become super fucking popular, talk of the proverbial town, sold out for two years or whatever it is.
Like they're always going off about white privilege, and while it's an annoying concept you're an utter bottom bitch if you get offended at stupid fucking Hamilton not wanting to cast white actors. There have been PLENTY of movies and TV Shows and plays and musicals and whatever that have only featured white actors, let them have their hip-hop musical and choose your fucking battles.
1 iWhereSchortSchorts 2016-11-30
ALL'S I'M TRYING TO FUCKING SAY IS THAT IT'S TOTALLY NOT A WASTE OF TIME TO LET A BLACK WOMAN AUDITION FOR THE ROLE OF STEVE JOBS. HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT MR JOBS WASN'T A BLACK WOMAN? YOU DON'T, FAGGOT!
1 OkaySeriouslyBro 2016-11-30
Hot Hollywood gossip: Lupita Nyong'o auditions for the role of Marlon Brando. If they didn't make the casting call open to all races, that would be SEXIST!
1 Monospector 2016-11-30
Hey Ken Steele
0 _TheConsumer_ 2016-11-30
It's not a "gimmick" when you actively close casting to minorities only. You cannot do that. There are a plethora of state and federal laws that forbid it.
I'm highlighting a hypocrisy. I'm white. I can't create an ad hiring only "white" secretaries. I'd be hit with all sorts of fines and could potentially lose my license.
If I have to follow the rules, then minority employers should have to follow the rules, too. The end.
5 OkaySeriouslyBro 2016-11-30
YES YOU FUCKING COULD UNDER THE RIGHT CIRCUMSTANCES YOU UTTER PINHEAD
Go to the local theater, say you want to put on a production of Frost/Nixon. Put in ad in the paper casting for this specific play, news flash asshole, there aren't gonna be black ladies circling the ad with a fucking highlighter because Latisha Washington can really prove to you that she's gonna be the best RICHARD FUCKING NIXON.
This isn't hiring secretaries, it's a fucking work of fiction with specific parts which are supposed to be played by specific races. Learn the difference.
3 _TheConsumer_ 2016-11-30
No, you can't - under no circumstance.
I assume you're referencing BFOQ - which allows employers to hire "types" of people if the "role" calls for it.
From Wikipedia:
There ARE narrow exceptions for art - but the hiring process needs to be open for all to apply. The producers can then determine the actor doesn't fit the role.
I'll reiterate: if a producer is going for a look, there are plenty of non-minorities that can pass for minority (Italians, Greeks, etc). If these people are passed up based on their race alone (and not their talent) then that is discrimination.
That is why it is extremely difficult to advertise "this race only."
3 TinKnockinMoroccan 2016-11-30
Bro, the white man is being forced out of the film industry. Soon the only roles left for white actors will be minority characters.
1 TinKnockinMoroccan 2016-11-30
What if they had simply arrived at an all non white cast by coincidence? Would that be a fuck you to white society?
3 TinKnockinMoroccan 2016-11-30
That sounds like SJW talk to me.
1 _TheConsumer_ 2016-11-30
Nope. It's legal talk.
I'm white. I can't post an ad hiring "white" secretaries only. Minorities should have to follow the same rules.
2 TinKnockinMoroccan 2016-11-30
the ad doesn't say they're seeking ONLY non whites. Just that they're seeking non whites.
3 _TheConsumer_ 2016-11-30
You can't do that, either.
1 TinKnockinMoroccan 2016-11-30
Again, the only mistake they made was being open about. This happens all the time in Hollywood, behind closed doors. If you think you have some kind of legal case, sue them.
2 oceanic231 2016-11-30
That's fucking dumb. You should be able to employ who ever the hell you want. I'm white as fuck and I just think it's retarded. If I'm making a movie and I know the a certain role needs to go to a black guy (convict, drug dealer, etc) why the hell would i cast it to anyone but black peoples. I fucking hate political correctness.
0 doxxbrown 2016-11-30
Bona fide occupational qualification (BFOQ)
Same reason Hooters can get away with only hiring chicks with big tits.
0 _TheConsumer_ 2016-11-30
BFOQ is a permitted consideration after everyone applies for the job. You cannot limit the hiring process to one group. Everyone applies, then you consider BFOQ. Not the other way around.
You can justify your hiring by using BFOQ. But the hiring process has to be open to all to apply.
1 oceanic231 2016-11-30
Why is that? Why can't you limit your applicants to a certain group? It's your money you are paying them. Pathetic. It actually makes me mad how sensitive and gay we are as a society sometimes.
0 [deleted] 2016-11-30
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-2 OkaySeriouslyBro 2016-11-30
The whole fucking gimmick of the show is casting non-white actors who can rap as the founding fathers. What's the next target for the alt-right, not enough white people in Madea movies? Fuck off.
1 _TheConsumer_ 2016-11-30
You can't discriminate in your hiring practices. There aren't exceptions. The producers can look for a "type" but the casting call has to be open to all.
If you're looking for a "minority" - you're hiring based on race. That's illegal. What if an Italian or Greek looks Puerto Rican? Should they be excluded from the job because they aren't minorities?
5 OkaySeriouslyBro 2016-11-30
Stop with your shitty technicalities. "Oh they disclosed it on the casting call we fucking got them!" Do a biopic on Wayne Gretzky, hire a white actor. Do a biopic on Michael Jordan, hire a black actor. You're gonna read Shia Lebouf for the role of Jordan? Maybe if he impresses but doesn't get the main role, you can offer him Pippin? Is that the way entertainment works or can you understand that the gimmick is casting the all-white founding fathers as rapping minorities and you getting OFFENDED at that being allowed to exist is so fucking pathetic.
2 _TheConsumer_ 2016-11-30
I'm not offended. I'm highlighting a hypocrisy.
In 2016, you will never see a casting call for "whites only." Hamilton, a play hailed for its diversity, released an ad for "minorities only."