Stop saying we have a problem with Ant being racist

16  2016-08-16 by waterbuffler

A lot of people's criticism of Ant on this sub can be boiled down to "he's racist, with a drinking problem who fucks underage girls (and boys)".

All these thing are great; they make him funny and a compelling radio personality. After all, he was all these things during the golden age of O&A.

The problem with his show is that it prioritises politics over funny, he has no one to riff off of and he's a too self-conscious around a camera. This has nothing to do with race, sex or alcohol.

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I don't have a problem with his racism, I have a problem with his inability to discuss anything else.

Then why dont you call him repetitve or boring? Ants show was doomed to be boring the second he was exiled away from his elements, no one is interesting by themself. Ive been saying what this guys saying for years on here, why is "racist", "drunk", and "fucks young girls" all the sudden a bad thing? Just because your old favorite radio host is boring now? What the fuck?

Just because your old favorite radio host is boring now?

yep

Because being repetitive and boring because you are fixated on one thing is more than just boring. His racism ruined his career. The actual incident aside, you can bet that management parted ways with him partially because it gave them an excuse after his previous 12-24 months of racial tirade. So even someone who doesn't have a problem with someone having racial or racist points of view can look at Ant and say I don't like him because of this race stuff, because he's obsessed to the point it's ruining his life.

But fixated or boring are different than being "racist" or the subject matter theyre fixated on. Someone could say "I hate niggers" once every 12 years and theyd technically be racist. It doesnt go hand in hand with being obsessive like you seem to be relating the two. If you dont like that he's obsessive, say that, why is the subject matter relevant to that if racism isnt actually your beef? Its ok that youre offended by racism but at least admit it. If you hated that he was obsessed with something else would the first thing you brought up his obsession with other things or would you jump to his weird fixatied nature without bringing up the subject matter?

Why is being racist a bad thing...really?

I've always defended Ant and I sub to the network but tbh it is becoming an echo chamber of alt right politics. I'm usually all in with that but I just went on to the most recent show and clicked random time stamps on the app and it went like this

"....you'll get called a racist if you so much as spea.... new timestamp .... Gangs, these savages just don't....new timestamp .... Drive by shootings! And the fucking liberal medi... new timestamp .... Open and honest discussion about race"

I should point out this timestamp sample was over the space of an hour and a half or so, I wasn't just clicking around the same few minutes of talk.

I tapped out of yesterday's Curt Schilling episode.... I just want funny ant. He was better even when he was in his basement ripping on Rat.

I think that's because he's looked at the type of people subscribing to his channel (probably all of them are Gavin fans) and he realizes that his new target audience of alt-righters is more lucrative to pander to than a small group of ex-O&A fans who are just gonna shit on everything he does anyway.

Jesus...

It kinda is. I never cared about his racism before because it was mostly in the form of jokes....but thats long gone. Now, it's just straight out hatred of black people. He doesnt attempt the humour anymore. He's just an angry, bitter old man.

The inappropriate bell really made it all better.

I always thought, "Yeah, Anthony is a bit of a racist, and it's pretty funny, so whatever, it's not like he's a fucking neo-nazi or anything"

Then he made his own show and has basically used it exclusively to promote white nationalism. It almost taints his old jokes because now I know how serious he was being about them.

It's like when you like a guy, but then he gets too drunk one day and starts going off about how niggers are ruining the country, and you would just rather politely nod because you don't want to talk about it anymore.

lol go look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself how you got to be such a melodramatic faggot

he doesn't act on his (actually quite tame) white nationalism, so who cares? he made funny racist jokes and meant them and now he's just racist. the problem is that he's not funny anymore, not that he's racist.

he lost the best gig in the world because of a black person, by the way. of course he's become more racist

Uhh he lost his job because of his own actions and nobody elses.

The racism is more excusable than the grooming of teenagers over the Internet for sex. But they are both despicable. He's a real loser piece of shit. Just like his dad and brother.

If you want to make fun of him about it..sure I guess but to actually be outraged by it? Thats some gay shit

Thinking someone could be a piece of shit is gay? I'd be a total fag based on what I think of you alone.

Exhibit A ^

And yes youre right, you are.

Only queers dislike racist pedophiles.

You idiot.

Lol youre just proving me right

Shut the fuck up Joe, go to bed, you're drunk.

Bravo good sir. I don't care if Anthony gets his dick sucked by a 12 year old at a Klan rally. Just stop laughing at all your own jokes you impossible dickhead! He's become this desperate and awkward grandpa munster piece of shit. He's had years now to get comfortable in front of a camera.

It's really odd how the ugly one is the one who now has a visual element

I dislike TACS, but I still like Ant and I still listen to old O&A daily. Meanwhile, my Opie hate goes beyond what he brings to the show in a way that shows what a pathetic and immature person I am.

This sub epitomizes how cucked western men have become. Posting comments from their man-caves, aka homo-caves, while the woman runs the house. Their priority is to comment on Ant's "racism" and put nigger on a pedestal.

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Personality? Mingia de kakity keekity he'sgotpersonallle-ah.

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you're a complete ant dick sucking moron, we didnt have a problem with it was FUNNY. he's so hacky with it, you cant listen to anything with him involved because you know he's thinking about a hacky race line the whole time the person is talking.

The problem is he has been repeating himself for the past 10 years. One episode of TACS is all you need to get his point.

Sadly.the alcoholism has cause permanent brain damage so that he doesn't know he's repeating himself. It's like an alcoholic version of groundhog day

I feel his racism is the source of many of my issues with him. So, no, I will not.

The whole "Anthony is a bad person" shit is so tired. I guess it's a safe assumption that those critics of his lifestyle and antics are themselves living exemplary, morally superior lives. Equally as irritating is the presumption that if you call him a witch* we're all morally obliged to take up torches and pitchforks and crusade along with you to stick it to the bad guy, lest our good guy badges tarnish. Go fuck yourself.

He sucks alone without Opie and Jim. It's disappointing. There wasn't a huge public outcry against any of these things when he was entertaining.

*Racist or any modern hysteria inspiring scare-word can be substituted.

Don't think many people here care about any moral standards. Those criticisms are rotten fruit and throwing them at Anthony is what's fun. Not sure if anyone here thinks this sub is the 'good guys', either. It's only purpose seems to be fucking up people's day and celebrating their failures and embarrassments. Not exactly a bunch of guys playing sheriff.

You may be viewing all this through some kind of Asperger's prism.

Meh, people use that as an excuse but if you read the few comments under you you'll see youre actually wrong.

I see a 32 post shit fight down voted into silence and started by a retard who thinks people don't like Joe because of his racism. Which is dumb and a lie. We dislike Joe because he's an amazingly stupid mother fucker who talked tough about this sub, dresses like a biker, and lives off his brother even though he's 60.

No one is crusading, let alone on a moral stance. Even the people arguing with the spastic about racism aren't saying that's why Anthony stinks. Just that he is in fact a racist. Which I never cared about but don't understand how a sensible person could deny.

And nothing about your point beyond that. Almost every other post in here contradicts your theory, even the order via up votes contradicts your theory. The main concern seems to be Anthony's need to rant about the exact same shit all the time, and his lack of ability in front of a camera. Mostly due to his constant confused old man smile and epic ugliness. Also anyone who read this whole thing is a faggot, I always skip the wall of text posts. None of us are very interesting including me.

Which I never cared about but don't understand how a sensible person could deny.

This sentence implies youre seeking it out as a bad thing and do care, at least a little. And to be honest reality is sort of racist sometimes, and we no one is allowed to observe it without being slapped an "ism" on anyone that does, and if you go out looking to call these people these things, which is extremely rare in the first place, you care at least a little. If your main point is that he constantly repeats himself and is boring, why isnt that your go-to thing when the race part is secondary to it? And Joe doesnt deserve to be talked about, Im only talking about Anthony and the people that are latched onto him here. I dont give a shit and I havent heard one second of TACS or barely know how to get it...how do you even know what hes doing these days?

It doesn't imply that even slightly. His racism doesn't relate to whether I enjoy his work, therefore I don't care in the context of what we were talking about. Which is your limp theory that people are crusading against Anthony for moral reasons. Which isn't true. Tranny/pedo/racist are the ammunition. Him sucking is the motivation.

Also Anthony won't fuck a woman who's been with a black man. I don't need to find other example. There are no FBI statistics or tough truths that make this comprehensible if he's not a racist.

edit: Haha, I am talking to a different guy now and didn't notice. Bed time, goodnight world

If him sucking is the motivation then why don't you find examples of umm....him sucking? Without that it's nothing but a moral crusade and yelling about a guy being racist like you'd find on any feminist forum.

Haha, I am talking to a different guy now and didn't notice. Bed time, goodnight world

Wait a minute... That was all for me? I'm a touched. Sweet dreams. ;*

I think the majority of people know to chill and not take a moral stance about ruining some guy's cover band, but I've had arguments with a few faggots who defend it beyond humor.

I have too, they aren't the norm though.

I'm a faggot now. But I was already pretty gay to begin with.

I think it's 50-50. We do have some real faggots around here.

You may be viewing all this through some kind of Asperger's prism.

It's possible.

Clever Jab calling someone Autistic. I've never seen that one before.

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I don't call people niggers and I don't fuck little girls. I am morally superior. It's not a difficult standard to meet.

You're here, that's arguably worse

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Okay then. Go get him, Tiger.

Your life is boring as fuck then.

He said exemplary though. If you're somewhere in between that and Ant, your response is invalid. See cause he said exemplary. That cawksuckah burried you before you even posted.

Eh, the old xm shows, the racism was very "Archie Bunkerish". There was a light heartedness about it. Somewhere, things turned a corner.

I don't hate Ant, but at the end of his run on radio, he wasn't as funny because the race stuff came up too much, and it wasn't as funny.

Somewhere between Obama getting elected and the George Zimmerman trial, things changed.

I agree his obsession with blacks got annoying and I presume it's gotten worse on his solo show (I don't subscribe). I'm just annoyed with the Macarthy-istic bullshit being slug and the typical presumptuous expectations associated with that. I get that a lot of it is disingenuous shit-slinging to fuck with him thanks to few other posters pointing out that I'm looking at this like Rain Man.

Are you racist?

Probably. It would all depend upon your definition of the term "racist".

Well just fucking say that instead of awkwardly trying to justify it at every turn

"I don't mind Cumia's racism, because I'm a racist"

It's that easy.

I'm not trying to justify anything you silly goose. Your assumption that you think I am betrays a lack of the ability to understand what you read. My post was from an amoral perspective. That was my point. Justification is the concern of the moral or the manipulative.

Oh! How silly of me to mistake someone attacking one side of an argument for someone who opposes the argument he's attacking.

That sentence of yours reads like a fucking Zen koan. No matter. I forgive your silly mistake and I respect you for your willingness to own up to it.

Good point.....NOT!

No, there's a lot of liberal faggots here who really have a problem with racism. Hence all those stupid Joe Cumia threads based around one joke.

Can't you come out of the Vietnamese matrix for 5 minutes? I hate how retards like you make everything about taking sides to groups that have no accountability towards what they supposedly stand for. How about instead of being a liberal or conservative (words that mean nearly nothing now) you just have your own ideas you weak minded slug?

I'm not being one of those people that injects politics where there aren't any, there are legitimately a lot of liberal faggots here. We recruited them to attack Opie during Jocktober and some of them stuck around to bitch about the Cumias racism.

You got me though, I'm a weak minded slug in the Vietnamese matrix.

Disliking racism makes you a liberal? What a retarded statement. No, being HYPERSENSITIVE about racism makes you a liberal. You don't have to be a liberal to determine that Anthony is a full-blown, out of the closet racist, you dumb fuck. It doesn't offend me, I (and most of the people on here) just find it annoying that he justifies his racism by citing half truths, outright lies, and isolated examples. Actually the unscientific ways he forms all his opinions offend me far more than the opinions themselves.

Thinking that all the races are inherently equal does make you a liberal. The Cumias don't say anything incorrect about race, if you're mad about what what they say it's because of your liberal ideology.

You can't just use the word "liberal" to mean "anyone who isn't screaming about FBI crime statistics and correlations between race and IQ every 5 minutes" lol. Words actually mean things.

He thinks that in 1960, NASA didn't have black people because black people are worthless not because black people couldn't even drink from the same water fountains as white people at the time. Call the people saying Ant is racist what they're. Hacks. Unoriginal faggots with nothing interesting to say. Everybody knows Anthony is racist.

You should kill yourself for saying "we recruited" anything. Seriously, that pest mentality shit is gayer than Anthony's sex life. The fact that any of you were beholden to these fucking people's commands and desires is disgusting. I listened for the comedians and I'd never even think of doing what a feeble Italian pedophile and a Long Island frat boy want done.

That's why you people are so mad at opie and anthony. You fucking fell for a wrinkled snake charmer and a dim witted business managers "magic".

I thought that NASA shit was a roast joke that bombed.

He used to say it all the time before that roast. Maybe he's joking. But we all know he's a self admitted racist.

TBF, there's probably only 3 or 4 there today.

Okay, so you're one of those liberal faggots I was talking about. Thanks for proving my point faggot.

And yeah I'm such a pest in addition to being a weak minded slug in the Vietnamese matrix. I said "we" as in this sub, I personally didn't participate. You're right though, the commands of this sub compel me to action.

HAHAHA. I'm a liberal faggot. You've shown yourself to be exactly what I said you were.

No your strawmans are pretty awful. You should stop trying to read people based on limited information, you're not good at it.

You've said liberal 5 times on this thread already.

My observations are based in reality, sensitivity about racism is 100% correlated with liberalism. Meanwhile all your attempts to nail me down have fallen flat.

So when did I say i was sensitive about racism? I nailed you down pretty good dummy you're just stuck in your own world.

What observations are based in reality? That anecdotally liberals were recruited to fuck with opie on this subreddit? You're nearly retarded. Wonder when you'll call me an SJW because I made you look stupid. Also please explain to me any of my straw man arguments I've made? I don't think you know what the things you say mean.

No you didn't, you tried two different "that guy" rants based on nonsense you imagined in your head and they both fell flat. You're the one that should kill yourself.

I mean you just said everything Anthony and his brother says about a certain subject is true which means you're a fucking idiot. I win just based on that. I don't know what you believe in and I don't care. But I was literally doing exactly what you were except about only you instead of a large group of people.

Thinking someone is right about a particular subject doesn't make you a fucking idiot. You have a lot of really bad opinions lol. You're lucky you're posting with a bunch of fellow liberal faggots (just as I originally pointed out), or you'd be getting slaughtered in the upvotes.

"The Cumias don't say anything incorrect about race, if you're mad about what what they say it's because of your liberal ideology." That makes you a fucking idiot.

Okay, so prove the genetic basis for race wrong then. You can talk a lot of fluff but you haven't actually proved it wrong.

You're a liberal.

You spelled Social justice warrior wrong. I'm going to update my blog about you.

I don't care.

I'm going to get you fired by telling your boss about your lackadaisical attitude towards spelling mistakes.

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I had a small rash on my arm from a skin irritating plant. We are like comrades on the same battlefield. Injured during battle. It might take some rehabbing but we'll be back on our feet in no time. Recovery will be tough but we are strong and the rash already stopped itching.

All I did was fall off about a 2 foot bank weedeating. I just had my left foot planted real good and went to step right and slipped and I heard both bones break. Threw the weedeater and grabbed my leg. I was wearing boots with "ankle support" and I saw my foot flopping around and I knew it was bad. One more surgery and I get to put weight on the thing. I can't wait. Youre still a liberal.

I can't tell if you're seriously calling me a liberal. Maybe you're retarded too. Either way I hope you re-break your bones in the same place.

Plates and screws should prevent it.

Clinton knows a former Klansman, Trump was endorsed by one

Lol how do you clowns have no shame touting around a photoshopped pic as fact? Dude was honored by the fucking NAACP and many other prominent black figures/groups. But nah lets hold something against him that happened 70 years ago even though he changed his ways.

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That's some solid detective work I must say.

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TACS isn't funny and the network is a dud. That's the real issue. Picking on Joe is the equivalent of picking on the retarded kid at school. Nobody actually cares about what happens to anybody involved. This sub is the only entertaining thing that has come out of the whole mess.

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For the record I am a liberal.

I'm not being one of those people that injects politics where there aren't any, there are legitimately a lot of liberal faggots here. We recruited them to attack Opie during Jocktober and some of them stuck around to bitch about the Cumias racism.

You got me though, I'm a weak minded slug in the Vietnamese matrix.

"The Cumias don't say anything incorrect about race, if you're mad about what what they say it's because of your liberal ideology." That makes you a fucking idiot.

Then why dont you call him repetitve or boring? Ants show was doomed to be boring the second he was exiled away from his elements, no one is interesting by themself. Ive been saying what this guys saying for years on here, why is "racist", "drunk", and "fucks young girls" all the sudden a bad thing? Just because your old favorite radio host is boring now? What the fuck?