does anyone know what comic is being accused of being a rapist, I think he might be a UCB guy?

9  2016-08-13 by JeremyACrosby

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Aaron Glaser. I saw that on Rebecca Trent's Facebook page. I also saw anti-comic Allison Klemp claim women should replace his spots on shows he was scheduled for since picking the funniest and most entertaining people shouldn't be a concern for a comedy show.

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Aaron Glaser
Actor
Aaron Glaser is an actor, known for The Wolf of Wall Street (2013), Laid Off (2010) and Dreamcatchers (2012).

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The Wolf of Wall Street
Stratton Broker #5

Dreamcatchers (Short)
Prankster 1

This is clearly a high profile case we're talking about.

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Ha, the comedy 4 and real life 2 Klemp is trying to make me famous on her Facebook wall.

Maybe I should stop since she could childishly claim I am "punching down."

Dinobrainiak's comment and the type of posts in this thread that are getting downvoted made it pretty obvious that there's a bunch of SJW faggots lurking. Oh, and that thread about Kaytlin Bailey boohooing about Metzger being a "bully" on My Wife Hates Me. We've got a bunch of NY open mic'ers fishing for screen grabs and sympathy points.

Is he still alive?

Rebecca A. Trent. Just checked out her page. It looks like an alt-comic lynch mob asking for a guys head without any explanation or proof. The guy's a rapist and you won't allow him to work your venue? Fantastic. Was there a police report filed? Why isn't he in jail? This whole feminist M.O. of 'guilty until proven innocent' is fucking absurd.

If someone I trust came to me and said "This comedian raped me" and I'm a comedy club owner who cares about fans and other comedians, it's totally legitimate for me to say "I don't want this person associated with my venue." I don't have any facts about this particular instance, but, short of discrimination, as a business owner you always have the right to say "I make the rules here" and maybe for Rebecca, one of these rules is "I don't let potentially dangerous people into my business." Just saying.

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Fair enough. What isn't legitimate is her dragging that persons name through the mud on social media without the facts. Now, in the court of public opinion, he is guilty no matter what evidence is presented. He'll carry a black mark on his name for the rest of his life. That kind of tactless behavior is just as despicable as the allegations. If he is guilty then he deserves everything that's coming to him, but there's a thing called the presumption of innocence. CALL THE POLICE...not your cronies on Twitter.

also to be clear, she didn't say his name on FB (social media). Other comics said it and made memes about him. I guess his reputation preceded him in the community and everyone else was way ready to spread the word. Based on his rep it looks like few people (aka zero) have come out to speak on the integrity of his character but lots of people are ready to give examples of his shitty character.

I guess that settles it then. He's a rapist and I take back every logical thing I said about due process. Time to fall in line, fire up those torches, and ready the pitchforks!

Due process applies to courts, not Facebook, retard.

Your 'logical' approach doesn't seem to extend criticism beyond these feminists you seem to hate so much. Let's assume someone is accused of murder; do we as a society let the accused wander the streets unopposed until their trial? No. We arrest them and begin the criminal process. You seem to think 'innocent until proven guilty' means we can't make accusations based on multiple accounts from multiple sources. Not very logical, kid.

False and stupid comparison. Police aren't even yet involved much less a GRAND JURY that is required to file an indictment -- and yes people are allowed their freedom, even people accused of murder/violence, if they do post bail. So you're not even right on that extreme, non-parallel bullshit.

I think you're missing my point. I mean to say that when one is accused of a serious crime (especially when the accusations come from multiple reliable sources), the idea of 'innocent until proven guilty' is something that guarantees the rights of one to be processed fairly within our criminal justice system... Not on Reddit forums. When one such as yourself goes out of their way to defend the accused for what appears to be nothing more than an opportunity to lash out against feminism, then you deserve to be mocked for your narrow-minded beliefs and I resent your attempt at framing such a stance within the confines of logic. If you were trying to come to a logical conclusion about what really happened between the accused and the myriad possible victims, why would you choose to support the least likely of all the outcomes? For any reason that isn't a result of your own prejudice? Not likely.

This reads like satire: "...I resent your attempt at framing such a stance within the confines of logic." Seriously, that's your argument? That you're exempted from logic? Logic is unfair. Wah!

I think it's lovely that you're trying to prove the likeliness of a circumstance with the likeliness that I'm prejudiced for not acknowledging the likeliness of a circumstance. It's like you took logic and you took The Human Centepede and you figured out how to put those things together perfectly. It's like fucking Dadaist or something. Ubu Roi.

Oh and good god and what? What? Anybody who doesn't agree with you is a bad man with prejudiced no-no beliefs? This is what I hear: "feelings! validation! wah!" A bunch of maoist indoctrinated babies with no capacity for reason and no respect for the backbones of classical liberalism which actually protect the minority against the privileged majority, in this case entitled rich people with college diplomas who believe themselves aggrieved when they get to decide what words mean and who's allowed to say them.

Listen: it's clear you've now chosen to lower this conversation into childish and poorly-lettered insults, so I guess I'm not surprised you've also completely failed to grasp my point. Your pejorative use of terms like feminism and logically unfounded defense of a man accused by many of rape makes it clear that you can't separate your own prejudice from making sound decisions as per this issue. You've chosen to rail against a group of women and defend a man for no reason and with no evidence only to satisfy your simple-minded hatred for feminism. And worse, you claim to have utilized some kind of logic in finding these conclusions! Ha!

Good god this reads like a dumb kid trying to use a thesaurus and failing. Read some books. Look me up in a few years.

Haha so... No attempt to explain yourself? Found nothing in all of the books you supposedly have read to justify your small-minded prejudice? Noted.

Oh go cry some more about it. You want to behave like a dumb little brat and straw man me in a completely dishonest manner you don't get a big boy response.

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well i'm not saying that but i am offering clarification to your post. the MO of "guilty until proven innocent" died long before the feminists got a hold of it.

My coworker won't shut up about him. I searched based on a name to see what the accusations were, as overhearing her talk, all of her defenses sound like she's reading posts from theredpill

Poor little rapist.

If that person came to you and said another comedian beat them up or robbed them, would you do the same or would you ask why they haven't gone to police? Would you still blacklist them based on that testimony?

That's the whole point. Let's say that comedian was a friend and he sucker punched you in the face (right? guys do this sometimes and nobody presses charges) but it didn't leave a bruise, or you're 90% sure he stole money from you, but you didn't have any evidence.

Now let's say you warn a club owner, and the club owner's like "hmm no proof but I'll keep an eye on him." Then 4 other people come forward with the same complaint. Do you think we should all wait for the trial to reach completion before we ban him from the club?

Now let's pretend that instead you got ass raped. How eager would you be to press charges and go to trial for that?

Yes. Yes I would ask them why the fuck they haven't gone to the police! What the fuck is wrong with you? Go to the police if you see a crime.

Idiot.

Are you being sarcastic? Cause none of that sounded abnormal.

Yes. Yes I would ask them why the fuck they haven't gone to the police! What the fuck is wrong with you? Go to the police if you see a crime.

Perhaps we misunderstood each other but yes... I would absolutely protect my business against anybody with a pending investigation, but I wouldn't accept (particularly if I believed the person) anything other than their enthusiastic pursuit of justice, and prevail upon them to go to the police because A) being blacklisted from one comedy club does not protect the public or achieve justice and B) I would be morally worried about alienating someone from their source of income, social bonds and/or education long term without some attempt at due process.

Yeah, if I ran a club I wouldn't let in blacks, Latinos, the Irish, Italians or women, so she's allowed to not let in people she thinks are rapists

It's worth at least mentioning that rape is a surprisingly difficult crime to prove. Like, what does that look like? A text message saying "I am going to rape you?" A picture of a bleeding vagina? We like to believe that if someone is definitely guilty of rape then there will definitely be an arrest, but a lot of sexual assault doesn't leave evidence. It's a complicated messy situation where a lot of the time (since so much sexual assault is committed by partners or acquaintances), it basically just boils down to he-said/she-said. There are sexual assaults where someone passes out and is unable to give consent. There are sexual assaults where someone initially gave consent, then decided to retract it, and the person held them down and kept going anyway (like if someone decides they want to stop having sex, or feels like pre-established boundaries have been broken). There are sexual assaults where the victim does not physically resist because they've been intimidated by other things like the threat of violence.

Most of the time sexual assault cases comes down to a question of intent, which is very difficult to prove in court. There aren't always bruises or visible injuries, and even when there are, they're not always definitive proof. Do you play sports? Do you sometimes engage in consensual rough sex? Did you do that to yourself to try and get the accused in trouble? Maybe that's where they came from.

There are plenty of horror stories about people being falsely accused and having their lives ruined. There are also a ton of horror stories about people getting away with sexual assault because it's so difficult to prove. I'm not saying this like it's a contest, but these are both things that happen and are always tragic.

So like, what do you do in this situation? What do you do if you or someone you know has been the victim of sexual assault and it's impossible to prove? Are you supposed to just keep your mouth shut about it forever? Do you just let a dangerous person keep going around and ruining people's lives? If a friend or loved one that you trust tells you someone has seriously hurt them, but they have no physical evidence (and they don't seem the type to lie about this sort of thing), do you give them the benefit of the doubt? Do you completely ignore them? I'm not talking about legal consequences or putting someone in jail here. I'm just talking about the personal decision to cut contact with them or not do business with them, which is what's happening.

I do not know the details of this case, and I am not expressing an opinion on it here. I'm just trying to explain some of the other side of this and why people think this way. I'm asking a lot of rhetorical questions and I don't have answers for them. I don't think there are clear answers. It's just a complicated messy situation when this happens and it's always awful. It is an absurd situation. It's absurd when someone (a false accuser) ruins another person's life (a non-rapist) and receives no repercussions. It's absurd when someone (a rapist) ruins another person's life (their victim) and receives no repercussions. It's easy to look in from the outside and say "well, we should always give people the benefit of the doubt"... it feels very different though when you know the people involved personally. From what I understand, multiple people have come forward about this guy, and the NYC comedy scene is a pretty tight-knit community where everybody kind of knows everybody.

A surprisingly well thought out comment for this place.

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A blog posted a story told by one of his accusers. She claims he roofied her and raped her. Well a rape kit would prove if the drug was in her or not. So telling he to go to the cops instead of facebook makes way more sense. And is actually helping the victim. And preventing other victims.

Listen he is just a white dude who is privileged and probably rich. So not a big deal if this is bs. But I don't like where this is headed.

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I'd rather be violently raped than read all this

Go soap-box elsewhere

Shut the fuck up you rapist.

There's no chance of being proven innocent, it's guilty until dead.

Might as well carry on rapin'.

AMEN.

LISTEN AND BELIEVE SHITLORD. YOU NOT BELIEVING IS LIKE RAPING HER ALL OVER AGAIN

Fuck off, stupid

Are you this much of an "sjw" or do you deserve a troll trophy? I mean, you seem to like OnA humor so a small part of you is not leashed by social justice but you have the fascist fervor and ideology of someone who would fight to ban this type of humor

There's a difference between me, who can laugh at a racist joke or a rape joke in certain contexts, and you, an actual racist who literally supports rape and demonizes rape victims. Im not an SJW, I'm a reasonable person and just a better human being than you are.

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Social Marxism isn't a real thing, actually, so it isn't.

Do you know what "presumption of innocence" is?

Yes, I do.

Did you get forced to take a diversity course? Im seriously asking

What makes you think i support litteral rape?

You just attacked people who believe the multiple women who said a guy raped them. And no, I've never taken any sort of "diversity class", I don't even know what the fuck that would be.

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Lol. Are you "woke"?

This is the second time I've seen you use that word and I don't know what the fuck you're saying. Use grown up words, retard.

So fucking stupid man . its becoming more about having colored dudes and women then someone funny. Its dark times if you're a white male comedian .

Years of success and little push back has been really hard on you guys, huh?

Also....colored? Like, what color?

Of the negro variety

What are you, sir?

Yep so true, I mean can you believe they let negros in the control room at nasa now. There was just a big stink about cbs's fall tv lineup being too white. Tough for us cis white males nowadays

Uhuhru brother

Lolol poor you.

I'm not a white comedian. I'm saying the way comedy central has gone from a channel I would never change to a channel id watch once or twice a week now.

Yeah man. Life's rough being a white male. Can't catch a break in America, I tell ya.

Im saying specifically in comedy youre fucked. All the jobs are going to minorities and women

Are you basing that on Netflix heavily pushing women comics and David Cross?

If they're good, they'll get some shit going like Maria Bamford. If not........well, look, I've checked the Netflix synopsis on these specials. They almost always mention sex, except for Bamford who is a real comedian. This is just part of the cultural evolution to make women funny. They're working on it. I also noticed that the hot women comedians get particularly sexy thumbnails. They mistakenly think that men want to hear an unfunny hot woman talk.

Louis CK.

Andy Kindler.

Yeah fucking right. that's fucked up to say.

I've heard stories from friends about Kindler. Not good ones either.

Let's hear em.

Edit: that's what i thought. You haven't heard shit. I know Andy personally and fuck this subreddits hatred of him. Y'all hate him so much you're going to try to spread horrible accusations about him? Typical.

Youre gay

This might have legs. Let's get going on spreading this around

If you don't spread them legs Andy'll spread 'em for ya.

Amy Schumer has been raping other peoples acts and originality for years.

Sick burn. Nice!!!

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To prove a crime, you need to satisfy several elements, including mens rea and actus rea. Without a thoroughly sufficient fact finding process to assess the mind-set of the perp, I don't see how the UCB could conclude this guy committed a crime as heinous as rape. Privately banning the guy because he makes some people uncomfortable seems like a sufficient enough punishment. Announcing to the world that this guy's a rapist is unethical, undemocratic and unconstitutional. This is a lynching of the highest order.

UCB didn't announce shit. They made no public announcement about this, it was literally spread by word of mouth outside of UCB's control. They did everything internally and under wraps.

Unconstitutional? The government isn't infringing here. It's a private company choosing with whom it will do business with. UCB has an incredibly active and talented community of performers. Disney calls everyone cast members so they can boot at will. I imagine UCB being performer based employer probably does something similar.

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Cultural Marxism is killing speech

word

edit: I really hope my agreement with your statement gets down-voted into going hidden. Talk about irony.

Hal Rudnick

Amy Schumer.

I don't know. Google it faggot

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I've heard stories from friends about Kindler. Not good ones either.

I'm not a white comedian. I'm saying the way comedy central has gone from a channel I would never change to a channel id watch once or twice a week now.