I love Jim Norton's killer arguments against homophobia
19 2016-06-07 by FlashVirus
Hey if you don't like homosexuality, or even think it might be a disorder of some sort, then you're really secretly gay! That is something totally original and I'm really glad Norton crafted this unstoppable debate point. And I'm happy he brings it up whenever an anti-LGBT person is given airtime.
170 comments
28 John_Gulbunny 2016-06-07
YOU are why women don't report rape
18 TheDarkFezRises 2016-06-07
And why retards die in fires.
2 Clibanarius 2016-06-07
God made them super-flammable for a reason. Take a hint, r-tards.
-1 MobySac 2016-06-07
Hey mister, please refrain from using the 'R word'. We don't tolerate that type of talk around these parts and if you continue I might have to recommend washing your mouth out with a bar of soap (or hydrochloride acid)
10 Lyle_Chippers0n 2016-06-07
*hydrochloric
hydrochloride is an acid salt fam.
-2 MobySac 2016-06-07
Edit: oh shit fuck I did say hydrocloride! It was all spellcheck fault scouts honor!
And you didn't have to correct me. It's not like this group of retards would understand the difference anyway
12 Tom_Stall 2016-06-07
It's true, a retard wouldn't understand the difference. Here's an example of such a case.
Although I wouldn't say not knowing this makes you a retard.
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1 blackirishlad 2016-06-07
I prefer hydrofluoric acid to really liven up the party.
2 JesusLesnar 2016-06-07
So thanks for that
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14 Ramoooone 2016-06-07
FUUCCCCCCKING SCUUUUUUUUUUUUMBAGS
9 qdpbog 2016-06-07
My favorite one was when he was pissed he lost like $27 overnight in the stock market. "These scumbag brokers...". Even Opie is smart enough to not check his portfolio every night. Ant told Jim he should only check it once every 3 months at most to get an accurate picture of what a stock is doing. Of course Jim wasn't going to listen to reason and instead kept blaming the brokers/bankers for his ineptitude.
12 Bibimbap4211 2016-06-07
You queers will argue about anything.
17 Binski13 2016-06-07
Fuck off no we dont kike cunt
8 [deleted] 2016-06-07
I loved it when he was GENUINELY angry that when looking for people in studio who did gay shit when they were young, no one stepped forward. He thought they were lying. He couldnt accept the possibility that noone else in the room "experemented"
7 Lyle_D_Chipperson 2016-06-07
Yeah this theory is old hat, I learned about it in anthropology and sociology classes. However, the sample sizes for the studies that suggest there is a correlation between homophobia and homosexuality are always too small.
7 JulienSorel_ 2016-06-07
It's pretty much mathematically impossible. At least half of the population is against gay marriage, and half of the population clearly isn't gay. This percentage also would have been much higher in the past and is currently fairly high in most non-Western countries (the Middle East, Eastern Europe, Latin America, etc.). For this logic to hold, something like 99% of Saudia Arabia would need to be homosexual. The bulk of all of our ancestors, too. The human race would be extinct if this were true.
2 Lyle_D_Chipperson 2016-06-07
Yeah when you consider different cultures and a historical context, it makes the conclusion seem more ridiculous. People see examples of repressed homos that are homophobic and assume or want to prove there is a high correlation. Also, I see why you would use Saudi Arabia as an example but the men wear dresses and enjoy kissing one another.
6 AntsCamera 2016-06-07
Projection.
Maybe Jim is a faggot, who cannot accept himself for it.
5 Tom_Stall 2016-06-07
Maybe?
2 AntsCamera 2016-06-07
I don't want to accuse. simply inquire.
5 CoolerKing37 2016-06-07
There was an article on Cracked.com (years ago, back when that site was tolerable) that the whole "homophobes are secretly gay" cliché was total horseshit.
2 breadmoccasin 2016-06-07
Was it this one?
http://www.cracked.com/article/85_6-bullshit-facts-about-psychology-that-everyone-believes_p2/
Compare that to the site today. Lol.
2 CoolerKing37 2016-06-07
Yep. That's the one. This pretty much sums up that website's laugh-free rapid decline in quality:
http://i.imgur.com/xNhE5r1.jpg
4 Dennyislife 2016-06-07
Of course its a disorder. Doesn't mean you have to hate it. Jimmy gets fucked in the ass by men but because of their clothing he won't admit what he is. That's the real homophobia
8 JuiceBusters 2016-06-07
I mentioned he enjoys giving men blowjobs and you correctly point out he escapes confessing this because the 'receiver' of his blowjobs was wearing women's clothing and make-up.
This is from Norton, the guy who smashed 'closeted gays' with such a vicious hatred you can well believe it's full of personal issues for him.
He's even tried to claim he has openly admitted it but in review its been cloaked in so much humor that it can actually be called a 'denial' or a dodge, a way to make it seem plausibly a 'character' and comedy bit.
Question: "Jim, I think you have sex with trannies right?"
Jim Norton channeling Groucho Marx "..ehhhh who doesn't love a surprises waga waga... a big fat 8 inchers wacka wackaaa"
So you mean you put that into your mouth. You sucked a guy off? Did you put it in your mouth?
Jim 'Groucho' Norton "..heyaaaa... that and three other places! badum-Cha! wacka wacka.. if ya know what i mean folks "
Surely he cannot bring himself to admit it because, after all, he knows its sick. Its a sexual perversion. A neurotic disorder, a sin, a degenerate act. One of those things or some combination.
1 JesusLesnar 2016-06-07
That's bullshit, it's not gay if one of the guys is wearing girly clothing. That's why I wear a bra whenever my bull decides to rape me.
7 JuiceBusters 2016-06-07
Norton has been asked about that, directly. Asking him to clarify if the prostitute has a penis or a vagina. Norton again cloaks it in so much humor that it can be called a denial:
".. lets just say this.. I like a really big clitoris.. and I mean a big thick 8 inch clit .. if you know whatimeanfolks waggga wackkka!"
again, he cannot simply admit this is a man's genitals. A penis. not a vagina. not a 'magic clitoris'.
4 whydontUlovemeLyndsi 2016-06-07
i like it when a tranny's dick is much smaller than my own and that thats why I'm straight
1 JesusLesnar 2016-06-07
What is the point of getting fucked by a tranny with a smaller dick though? You might as well feel it.
5 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
What makes you think it's a disorder?
11 Dennyislife 2016-06-07
Because nature would 'prefer' humans to breed. A little kink down the line that's all. Some wiring didn't make the right connection.
0 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
Interesting thought, but the APP(American Academy of Pediatrics) & the APA (American Physiological Association) disagree with you. They say it's a form of sexual expression. Not to mention that Homosexuality occurs in other animals.
9 SedditThrowaway901 2016-06-07
Animals doing something makes it okay for humans.
4 allenricketts 2016-06-07
Considering /u/DennyisLife referenced "nature", it was a relevant point to make.
-8 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
Maybe you could explain to me what makes homosexuality "not okay" for humans? What exactly is your issue?
5 blackirishlad 2016-06-07
just because it's a "disorder" doesn't mean it's not okay. sex is for reproduction. to encourage sex some animals derive pleasure from it. some animals are distracted by pleasure and no longer engage in the ideal activity for the species, but overall no harm is done because that is just one individual among the group.
there are underlying reasons for all the things people and animals do but it doesn't negate the human experience or the fulfillment that derives from an emergent mind creatively using biological processes in unintended way in order to entertain itself.
-2 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
You've essentially just made my argument. It's common for some animals to engage in homosexual acts here on planet earth. It doesn't deprive homosexuals of living a full life, so the exact opposite of someone living with a disorder. Can you think of a disorder that doesn't inhibit a persons life in some way? Heterosexuals engage in anal sex in huge numbers, what evolutionary purpose does that serve? Are millions of women suffering from a disorder because hey enjoy anal sex? It just doesn't add up
1 blackirishlad 2016-06-07
there are many definitions of disorder. it doesn't have to be a life wrecker, it's merely an irregularity.
i would say that anal sex does fall in there. you're deriving pleasure from physiological systems that are intended for another purpose like shitting and the reward sensation of making a big doodie. At least, I'm guessing that's it. I've never really looked into why anal sex feels good to some people. Maybe it's masochism.
Masochism, by the way, would be a disorder that does not inhibit life. But there's a spectrum there. There are people that take it to an extreme and so the clinical definition of disorder comes in.
Disorder in terms of medicine only describes things that DO significantly impact a functioning life, but I'm looking at a softer definition. In medicine, the only reason you would mention a disorder is that it has gotten to a point where it is unhealthy and so must be managed.
3 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
We agree that homosexuality doesn't inhibit people in anyway, and it's common among primate species. Also, why would we say that women have a mental disorder for enjoying anal sex? Surely there are far more women who do anal, than there are homosexuals who do. Small segments of people enjoy things that the majority doesn't, that doesn't mean they are suffering from a disorder. I just see zero logic in saying otherwise.
1 blackirishlad 2016-06-07
you're saying Mental Disorder. I'm saying mental disorder to the like of one part of the brain activating alongside another part that you wouldn't normally associate together. Harmless, ultimately, but it's the kind of "disorder" that you find in nature and leads to the kind of diversity of actions and emergent behavior that you see exhibited everywhere.
when transcribing DNA, there are tiny mistakes that are disorders that ultimately mean nothing. but a Disorder with a capital D of the type we take note of is one that grows into something life threatening and warrant slapping down an official title on it. So I'm saying there is no Gay Disorder that is a mental illness, but it is an irregularity in biological programming that may or may not serve a purpose. because it really cannot be argued that the only reason we have genitalia is to produce gametes for reproduction. choosing to stick your dick in a tree stump or an ass serves no purpose to that end.
but taking sex out of the picture, i don't think you can describe attraction to another man as a disorder. that seems more like asking where somebody's sense of aesthetics comes from and who the fuck knows?
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-1 SedditThrowaway901 2016-06-07
Fuck off faggot
3 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
Insightful stuff. Defend your opinion, pussy.
6 BigGreenYamo 2016-06-07
So does rape, murder, and coprophagia.
2 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
So homosexuality is equal to rape and murder? Also had no idea that being a rapist is a disorder. How can we be locking up rapists? Shouldn't we be treating their disorder?
9 BigGreenYamo 2016-06-07
I'm just saying that "occurs in other animals" isn't exactly the strongest argument when you're talking about mental health.
8 FoetusCorruptus 2016-06-07
"Humans are the only species that declare war", that's what this shit reminds me of. You can't judge the behavior of a sapient species by comparing it to the behavior of non-sapient species.
2 barlowqt 2016-06-07
Apes have wars over territory
2 FoetusCorruptus 2016-06-07
My fucking cats have war over territory, PETA freaks are emotionally broken nutcases.
-1 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
So otherwise perfectly functional giraffes who engage is homosexual acts (something like 90% of all giraffe fucking) are actually suffering from a mental disorder? I've yet to have someone cite a credible study or paper defending this view. Any scientific institutions taking this this seriously? Somebody name one
5 ChipChipperson2 2016-06-07
Homosexuality occurring among animals is one of the worst arguments I've ever heard to defend something as normal.
If we used animals as the basis for morality we'd be hitting our neighbors over the head with rocks and eating them.
5 Kingx79 2016-06-07
But if it's a moral issue then how is it a medical disorder? Not being a smart ass but what does morality have to do with a persons genetic makeup?
0 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
I'll try this again. Name me a credible institution or study that supports the theory that homosexuality is a disorder. Then we can talk
2 CCRed95 2016-06-07
i dont know that its a disorder but its certainly not the ideal in nature if the end result is designed in such a way where it cant pass on its genetics by normal reproduction
-1 ChipChipperson2 2016-06-07
It was considered mental illness in the Western world up until less than 20-30 years ago. It was only changed due to the West becoming more liberal and not for scientific reasons. It's still considered a mental issue in most parts of the world.
They can't breed, if this isn't a dead giveaway that they're flawed I don't know what is.
4 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
It was changed after a poll was taken at an annual convention of psychiatrists. The majority agreed that it wasn't a mental disorder.
0 libsarefaggots 2016-06-07
Hahaha and why are you leaving out the threts and violence made by LGBT activists at that meeting, you pathetic cocksucking faggot? Why do you skip over the fact that public sentiment changed the definition, not science?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPgq1c4TYi4
Faggots like you were molested as children, coddled throughout life, then grow up to promote molestation as normal - kill yourself and save our country.
0 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
Was this the video you wanted me to watch? I can't remember https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0mnGyjYbtWk
-2 libsarefaggots 2016-06-07
I hope you're reminded of how those adults raped you as a child, every day of your life.
1 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
Sorry, I only think about it when I'm jerking off.
-2 SexySpinster75 2016-06-07
There are plenty of straight people who can't "breed" ironic you use the term for reproduction in the animal kingdom but dismiss homosexual behavior in the animal kingdom.
3 ChipChipperson2 2016-06-07
That's because they're also flawed, but at least 99.9% of them still have their inner strive to want to breed and reproduce. Meaning it's a physical issue and not a mental
0 SexySpinster75 2016-06-07
So if you want something but don't carry it out it's not a mental issue. Hmmm so I guess if want same sex partners but don't actually have them you have no mental issue..gotcha
1 ChipChipperson2 2016-06-07
Let me explain this is terms your small mind can understand.
Straight people who can't have children still have their natural strive to have children, the only thing stopping them is physical problems.
Gays can't have children due to their mind not making them attracted to the opposite sex. This is not a problem of their body not allowing it, this is a problem of their mind telling them that keeping their species alive is not a priority.
1 SexySpinster75 2016-06-07
Your aware lots of straight people who can't have children do not strive to have them?
Lots of Straight people have minds that tell them that keeping their species alive is not a priority.
1 ChipChipperson2 2016-06-07
They want them, they just know they can't.
Not at all the case, pretty much the only exception to this is the Modern Western World where people are self centered and so overprivileged to the point that they feel taking care of a child would ruin their life.
1 SexySpinster75 2016-06-07
False. Lots of people don't want kids and are happy they can't have them or even have surgical procedures to make sure they never will.
If there's an exception you can't say "not at all"
1 ChipChipperson2 2016-06-07
Lots of people, lots of people, lots of people. Learn a new phrase.
This goes back the Western Selfishness I already pointed out.
Yeah you can.
1 SexySpinster75 2016-06-07
Which consists of lots of people.
1 ChipChipperson2 2016-06-07
Not as many as you may think, but if you put these people into a normal environment they would be far different.
1 ChipChipperson2 2016-06-07
Your comparison is incredibly flawed .
It's like if you said someone who doesn't eat food because they were born without a stomach is the same as someone who doesn't eat food because their mind tells them not to.
-2 sanfrancisco69er 2016-06-07
yeah, and those straight people that cant breed are defects as well. its a medical condition like gayness that makes them(you) defects.
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1 SexySpinster75 2016-06-07
I am straight and can breed. I was speaking of say maybe old people? Old people and gayness are medical conditions..ok got it.
1 ChipChipperson2 2016-06-07
Old people aren't supposed to be reproducing. We're all supposed to be dying around age 40 anyway and ODDLY enough that's around the age were women start becoming unable to produce children without risk of health issues.
-1 SexySpinster75 2016-06-07
Hmm yet we have evolved to live past 40 yet haven't evolved enough to realize being old isn't a medical illness. Gotcha
2 ChipChipperson2 2016-06-07
You're the only moron calling it a mental illness.
1 SexySpinster75 2016-06-07
"yeah, and those straight people that cant breed are defects as well. its a medical condition like gayness that makes them(you) defects."
I did not say that
1 ChipChipperson2 2016-06-07
I did not say that either.
1 SexySpinster75 2016-06-07
I didn't say you did..but You did sqy I'm the only moron calling it a mental illness. False. And I was being sarcastic in response to the post I replied to that suggested it was.
3 sanfrancisco69er 2016-06-07
in some species of animals the mother eats her own babies, so I dont see how that proves anything. Its common sense, bud. Psychology is a psuedoscience half the time, being gay is anti-life. What do you have a gay dad or something?
2 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
How does homosexuality inhibit a person from living a full life? What negative consequences result in people being gay? I just don't buy it
1 sanfrancisco69er 2016-06-07
Well, I didn't say anything about a full life, but they are born with something in their heads telling them not to continue the human race. Obviously there is something a bit wrong off about that.
3 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
Just because an animals behavior is rare, it doesn't make it a disorder. If there is no abnormality or disturbance of function in that individual, how exactly is it a disorder?
1 sanfrancisco69er 2016-06-07
you seem to be caught up on the word disorder. fine. lets settle on "faulty wiring" or "against nature".
3 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
How can something be "against nature" if it fucking occurs in nature? What are you talking about?
2 sanfrancisco69er 2016-06-07
cancer occurs in nature and is against nature, nature can contain harmful things that are against itself.
2 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
Cancer is nature. Nothing that occurs in nature is against nature. Cancer is a natural occurrence here on earth. Is a hurricane against nature? It erodes beaches, and destroys life.
2 sanfrancisco69er 2016-06-07
umm, gayness is pretty much against nature, lol, people are born without the instinct to continue the human race. People would be extinct if it wasnt a little odd to be fruity.
2 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
Right, so homosexuality naturally occurs in rather small numbers in humans and the species continues to thrive. Perfectly natural occurrence which doesn't negatively affect anyone.
2 sanfrancisco69er 2016-06-07
I wouldnt call it "perfectly natural" when the definition of nature is reproduction and survival, lol, but its ok, we'll settle on "faulty wiring".
1 SexySpinster75 2016-06-07
Not that I agree but I think the whole issue in logical non "fuck you faggot" words would be if everyone were homosexual the human race would die. Life for humans would end naturally as we know it. Not trying to jump on the bandwagon but trying to have a real Convo that uses some fucking actual brain cells instead of just disagree.
0 1073WAAF 2016-06-07
AIDS, poopy penis infections, butthole tearing, social ostracism, annoying demeanor, euro-house music.
1 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
Stop turning me on
0 1073WAAF 2016-06-07
Into POZ parties?
2 Renent 2016-06-07
edit: someone else made my point already about what occurs in nature. I couldn't care less about his argument but just hate that line "well it occurs in nature"
2 barlowqt 2016-06-07
Animals rape each other and eat their own shit
1 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
Would you say that humans that rape are suffering from a disorder? Maybe we should stop arresting rapists, and start treating their disorder.
3 barlowqt 2016-06-07
I would say that making false equivalencies between humans and animals is strawman argument
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2 qdpbog 2016-06-07
Wtf
5 [deleted] 2016-06-07
I like the "man is this sub trying to promote transfaggotism as normal" part, as if to say "well amirite or amirite, fellahs?" Needy faggot.
-2 FoetusCorruptus 2016-06-07
Meanwhile, that very same queer spends all his time posting on video game subs. Yup, nothing more masculine and hetero than obsessing over video games.
2 3stepsbackward 2016-06-07
Man, conservatives are mentally ill.
1 SexySpinster75 2016-06-07
Please don't be like them and stoop to their level of generalizing.
0 JohnQNo1 2016-06-07
they seriously are. its this kind of mentality that bought alot of great people like alan turing and oscar wilde alot of unnecessary suffering.
1 sanfrancisco69er 2016-06-07
Obviously they just dont want to come out and offend people, it goes completely against evolution and could literally end millions of years of life if it got too rampant...of course its not right...what makes you not want it to be a disorder so badly? we can allow it but its still weird and messed up
3 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
Name me a credible scientific institution or study that concludes that homosexuality is a mental disorder. I'm open minded, let's see some evidence.
1 sanfrancisco69er 2016-06-07
I dont think many scientific studies are looking to offend people, it just seems obvious to me. Like pedophilia, they are just attracted to the wrong thing, but since both sides can consent its ok. I mean, the main thing that drives life to exist is evolution and adaptation, and homosexuality goes against that completely. Kind of obvious it wasnt meant to be. Plus its gross as hell.
2 hoogityboogitiesRIP 2016-06-07
Lots of homophobia lovin faggots in here
-1 sanfrancisco69er 2016-06-07
I can't tell if you worded that wrong and meant to say homosexual loving faggots or you're saying you're a faggot because you're homophobic, but the latter would be quite silly.
1 hoogityboogitiesRIP 2016-06-07
It's the third option you needy nothing. Lot's of homophobia loving faggots in here DUH
1 allenricketts 2016-06-07
Chairs hinder our natural evolution more than same sex fucking ever will.
0 sanfrancisco69er 2016-06-07
Yeah I don't think it's actually hindering it, but it's obviously not a natural part of it
1 SexySpinster75 2016-06-07
I think giving birth and heterosexual s having anal sex is gross as he'll so are blow jobs and pussy eating...point?
1 sanfrancisco69er 2016-06-07
the rest of the comment
1 almightySapling 2016-06-07
True
Wait, I can kinda see why you might think this follows, but it's naive and patently wrong.
Evolution is random. Mutations occur, and mutations that succeed in duplication are propagated, and others die off. Long term this manifests as species acquiring "beneficial" traits while "detrimental" traits are driven out.
Now, there's a really obvious form of duplication we are all familiar with. Procreation. It's so familiar, however, that we tend to overlook that perhaps it isn't the only way!
In many species of insects, notably ants and bees, the vast majority of the species is completely asexual! But the DNA of the bee isn't "broken"! It is perfectly mutated to protect and serve the queen who does have the ability to procreate.
Many people may take these examples and think they are too extremely different from humanity (which is dumb, because evolution is evolution). Namely that A) insects are way different from humans, and B) in these cases the reproduction is physiological impossible, whereas homosexuality is more like a "choice" (pardon, I honestly couldn't think of a better word but I don't mean to say it's a choice, I just mean that all the working parts are present, they just remain unutilized)
For A) the baked mole-rats exhibit a physiological setup extremely similar to ants. One female, and a small number of males do all the reproducing, and the rest of the colony consists of sterile workers. As mammals, you can't ask for much more similar to humans without admitting you're now moving the goalposts.
For B) (as well as A) we turn to everyday rats, who, when experience overpopulation, start producing tons of lesbians! Their innate sexuality is controlled by the needs of the group for the good of the species. Many evolutionists posit that homosexuality in humans may be a form of kin selection. This is sort of the half-way between the rat and the mole-rat (the mole-rat-rat, if you will). The phenomena doesn't emerge from any developmental neutering, but rather seems to develop in the mind, and the purpose is that the individual works to pass on familial (rather than personal) genes by providing resources to his relatives. The hypothesis is that homosexuality first came when resources were scarce and having an extra adult around without the extra children gave a house boost to his close families' ability to keep their kids alive.
So yes, your premise is correct, but your conclusion certainly does not follow.
Gotta say, I didn't see this coming.
0 sanfrancisco69er 2016-06-07
Being gay is for faggots
0 Dennyislife 2016-06-07
Yeah the same flaw happens in animals brains too. I don't hate anyone for it but I don't think it's a choice or 'expression'
4 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
Well I would just have to ask what makes you qualified to make that assertion? I wouldn't be tempted to question the APA on their view of psychopaths, so what makes you so confident?
5 Dennyislife 2016-06-07
It's pretty obviously not a choice
-2 im_not 2016-06-07
Sir you're being an ass.
2 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
Make me see it your way. Formulate an argument, friend.
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-3 JuiceBusters 2016-06-07
It's well understood that 'homosexuality' had always been understood to be a mental disorder. The shrinks themselves made the name 'Homosexuality' to describe a disorder themselves.
In the 1970s a great deal of political pressure was put on them by a kind of 'gay civil rights' movement. This included plenty of reminders they knew which doctors and which family members were gay. This was done by loud street protests, media exposure, legal campaigns.
'Homosexuality' as a disorder was removed.
Not because of new studies. Not because they discovered new information. Not because of new data, new scientific research. Not because a consensus was reached in regards to new submissions, journal articles or any other reason than for political reasons.
This was well-known, well understood to be what happened.
And no, animals aren't having anal and oral sex for pleasure. Nor are two lifelong male friends 'homosexuals'. And practicing and training (example as puppies do) isn't 'homosexuality in dogs' ffs.
But anyways, to the former point. The APA and all these groups don't disagree. They simply removed it as a being a necessary problem.
I just want to remind people of that. Its really easy to find the story of that online too. Political reasons. That is all.
1 sanfrancisco69er 2016-06-07
who knew how hard people were on here to go to bat for gayness?
-3 die_reddit_scum 2016-06-07
You are absolutely correct in everything you just said. Too bad you got down-voted for hurting some feelings with the truth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPgq1c4TYi4
2 SexySpinster75 2016-06-07
Youtube credible. Hey if u wanna ban people on your publicwatch sub and tell them get help maybe you should answer their question as to where to get help instead of in return blocking the option to message. You wanna call yourself public watch how about help...watching does nothing.
-12 libsarefaggots 2016-06-07
LOL you stupid faggot, "homosexuality" occurring in about 1,000 species out of over 5 million disproves your point even further, then the fact that the closest approximation you can make for faggot behavior is in confused subhuman animals - LOL.
Then I love how you leave out what happened at that meeting to change the definition of mentally ill faggot tranny.
4 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
<that meeting to change the definition of mentally ill faggot tranny. I don't have the slightest clue as to what your talking about. Take your medication you fucking lunatic.
-8 libsarefaggots 2016-06-07
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPgq1c4TYi4
Yes you do know, faggot.
1 SexySpinster75 2016-06-07
Credible YouTube link again.
-1 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
Ummmmm right. So this video with 9,000 views is your hard evidence? Maybe you could tell me about your credentials, seeing as you feel qualified to disagree with the APA. You sure do sound like an academic, feel free to share all of your knowledge!
1 libsarefaggots 2016-06-07
Am I allowed to cite the APA before they had a meeting stormed by angry lgbt activists, borderline terrorists? Can we speak in common sense terms that a man who thinks he is a woman is mentally ill and reeling from unhealed traumatic sexual abuse? Can mention that half of trans people attempt or commit suicide, versus 3% of the general population? Can we mention how at least a quarter of them have HIV? How about the fact that mutilating your genitals and ingesting hormones doesn't change your birth sex chromosomes?
But LOL make it about my credentials after you completely ignore a video due to insufficient viewer counts, you disgusting asshurt lisping faggot.
6 3stepsbackward 2016-06-07
Dr. Libsarefaggots is checking in.
5 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
Now you're changing the argument to transsexuals? I haven't said a word about that community. Stay on topic, bud.
1 libsarefaggots 2016-06-07
You're talking about something not being so because of the APA. I'm showing that all you have is an appeal to apparent authority.
1 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
Where are the institutions taking your view seriously? The APA changed the classification of homosexuality after taking a poll at an annual conference. The majority of the Psychiatrists agreed that it wasn't a disorder. How is that political pressure? Individual psychiatrists aren't worried about being politically correct when filling out a poll.
1 libsarefaggots 2016-06-07
Hahaha you're a pathetic fag, I win. All you have is an appeal to authority that you don't even understand, since accepting how the definition changed shatters your beliefs.
1 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
You are completely delusional. You haven't cited one bit of credible evidence to support your claims. I bet you think the "science is still out" on climate change too. How about vaccinations, do they cause autism? Some of us appeal to authority because it's generally the correct course of action. Not all of us believe we are qualified psychiatrists.
1 libsarefaggots 2016-06-07
LOL you stupid faggot I already gave you a video full of sources but since the view count was only 9,000 you chose to make that your excuse not to consider it.
1 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
How about you just name the sources for me. Go ahead and lay out these credible sources. Or send me a link to this research institute (that doesn't involve the word Christian btw) conducting studies that support your view.
1 libsarefaggots 2016-06-07
Hahaha you are a pathetic faggot. I don't need to prove any of this to you, and society is finally acknowledging how mentally ill you LGBT faggots are.
1 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
Still can't do it, huh? Just provide some kind of evidence to support your claims. Calling me a faggot isn't a debate, try again.
1 libsarefaggots 2016-06-07
No you stupid faggot, I already did, and you literally can't bring yourself to challenge your bullshit beliefs
That's you, faggot.
1 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
Name a respected public intellectual who shares your view. Name one. You know that video isn't enough to convince anyone, so let's see some sources. You clearly feel really strongly about this, certainly you would have more than a single YouTube video to back up your assertions. I don't think I'm being unreasonable.
1 libsarefaggots 2016-06-07
1 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
Hehe still can't do it. This is fun. Glad to hear you admit that your only evidence is a YouTube video. :)
1 libsarefaggots 2016-06-07
No you stupid faggot, go back to the beginning, you asked for a source, got one, and you've been plugging your ears and saying "nyaaah nyaaah nyaaah" ever since.
You again try to make appeals to consensus or authority (without stating any) as if your position is correct by default, which it isn't, since you promote pure mental illness. Regardless, Camille Paglia is a respected public intellectual who isn't afraid of speaking the truth when it comes to gay mental illness.
Fuck off you dumb faggot and kill yourself today.
1 SexySpinster75 2016-06-07
What does that have to do with anything? You know how many blacks have hiv? Oh right not relevant.
4 [deleted] 2016-06-07
Be more redundant.
-1 libsarefaggots 2016-06-07
No, humans are animals, and these ones are below us.
2 [deleted] 2016-06-07
As opposed to the ones that are "above us," you mean?
2 LichVos 2016-06-07
You should use the word "faggot" some more.
1 FoetusCorruptus 2016-06-07
Go back to playing your video games, little faggoty gamer nerd. The last thing some fucking loser playing "pew pew" all day should pretend to be an expert in is sexuality.
5 Anthrosi 2016-06-07
0 High_Pitch_Eric_ 2016-06-07
Of course it is. An orgasm contains millions of sperm. Their sole purpose is to find an ovum. Not a piece of corn.
Look its a defect in the targeting system. Defects happen along the way.
Its like a mechanic putting a wiper blade where the aerial should be. You're never going to get music on the radio. Then there's the question of why on earth would my aerial have a rubber lining, whats its function.
Put the penis in the wrong place and you're never getting kids. Then there's the question of what reproductive function does a cock in the ass serve. None.
Jim still gets pleasure on the personal level, because the targeting system says 'you sunk the battleship hurray'....when really he's sunk a civilian vessel. The mechanic still gets paid....when really he made an error.
Take all the fun out of sex and you'll see its just a program that says put this there and fire. If you do I'll make you feel nice.
In one case 9 months later a baby pops out, baby goes on to do the same thing and the saga continues on and on for hundreds and thousands of years.
In the other case all that results is a sudocream purchase and aids. And fabulous interior decor.
1 yourunconscious 2016-06-07
I always thought his whole thing is that he does it purely out of the perversion side of it. He gets off on the fact that he's not gay but still fucks guys haha
4 TijnTijn 2016-06-07
By that logic Jim should be an insane homophobe.
2 ManiacalChrisBenoit 2016-06-07
Funny how it never works the other way...
2 SedditThrowaway901 2016-06-07
For most of recorded history, the overwhelming majority of people have been homophobic but I guess they were all secretly repressed homes, right?
2 JoeCumiaSr 2016-06-07
This asshole used to be the funniest guy ever.
-5 Clibanarius 2016-06-07
He used to be Louis CK? :)
2 OpiesPendulousUdders 2016-06-07
Bunch of sphere cucks.
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1 FlashVirus 2016-06-07
That's not necessarily true, with mental illness there is a rather thin line. Homosexuality was considered a mental illness by mainstream psychologists as recently as the 1990's in Western society. Not really my opinion, I'm for gay rights personally, but to act like it's all black & white is a bit dishonest.
1 JuiceBusters 2016-06-07
He always does this with outrageous sneering zeal!
Like he just fucking boxed them in and is fuckin SMASHING them with the facts!
And of course the 1st problem is that he is blaming homosexuals for this bad behavior. It's quite a lot like every other libtard on the internet who does that. Accusing homosexuals of almost all the bashing, hatred, anti-gay activity. Apparently homosexuals are fucking horrific bigots to each other!
The next problem is he supposes that its shameful. That's the point of that. To embarrass the critic (a homosexual themselves) into being ashamed, embarrassed, silenced in fear of public humiliation.
and the 3rd problem is that Jim Norton is the worst kind of wormy hypocrite. He loves shaming homosexuals who are won't just 'admit they love sucking cock' and yet..
..he will never apply the same standards to himself. Jim Norton has paid to give oral sex to men. To their penis. He gives them blowjobs. In his choice of words "He loves sucking on a man's cock" and yet he REFUSES TO ADMIT IT.
To be clear: I wouldn't blame anyone for being ashamed of that and avoiding any admissions. But Norton is the one insisting everyone OUGHT to do that and bragging how he does it.. except... on that.
1 truthie 2016-06-07
Sounds like he hit a nerve, you peter-pumper!
1 RacistPigeon 2016-06-07
I truly think it's okay to be gay, but not okay to be a fucking faggot. Hence, my hatred of Perez Hilton and Opie.
1 ChipChipperson2 2016-06-07
Well that's because Nortons a very blatant homosexual but he has yet to admit it so he calls out other people for it.
1 [deleted] 2016-06-07
What, you don't like Pontificating-Jimmy?
1 RickMirer3 2016-06-07
If Muhammad Ali wasn't one of your heroes, you're probably an asshole.
Wait.
If Muhammad Ali wasn't one of your heroes, you're probably an asshole.
ripmuhammadali #needyfaggot
There.
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1 literalotherkin 2016-06-07
Which means, by Jimmy's logic, Christianity, Judaism and Islam were all actually created by gays. Their continuing 'persecution' of the gays is a kind of Karmic punishment.
1 ChippusMaximus 2016-06-07
Norton and Bob Kelly are fags. They fuck each other. I don't know why they are so scared to just come out of the closet.
1 Midnight_Rider_Daddy 2016-06-07
no YOUR secretly gay!
0 avengingbullet 2016-06-07
Saying "homophobes are really all closet cases" sounds kinda homophobic to me.
-8 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
Maybe you could explain to me what makes homosexuality "not okay" for humans? What exactly is your issue?
2 [deleted] 2016-06-07
As opposed to the ones that are "above us," you mean?
1 cakehornnigga 2016-06-07
Where are the institutions taking your view seriously? The APA changed the classification of homosexuality after taking a poll at an annual conference. The majority of the Psychiatrists agreed that it wasn't a disorder. How is that political pressure? Individual psychiatrists aren't worried about being politically correct when filling out a poll.
4 allenricketts 2016-06-07
Considering /u/DennyisLife referenced "nature", it was a relevant point to make.
-1 sanfrancisco69er 2016-06-07
I can't tell if you worded that wrong and meant to say homosexual loving faggots or you're saying you're a faggot because you're homophobic, but the latter would be quite silly.
2 sanfrancisco69er 2016-06-07
cancer occurs in nature and is against nature, nature can contain harmful things that are against itself.
2 sanfrancisco69er 2016-06-07
I wouldnt call it "perfectly natural" when the definition of nature is reproduction and survival, lol, but its ok, we'll settle on "faulty wiring".
2 ChipChipperson2 2016-06-07
You're the only moron calling it a mental illness.