Anthony and Jim have made me laugh more than anyone. They made O&A what it was. I can't mercilessly bash them, I still like the guys. I sincerely hope Anthony gets back on track and is able to improve his show.
This piece about Frank Miller reminds me of Anthony Cumia:
"Frank Miller reminds me of George Lucas in a way. Now before you all jump on this and claim Lucas is nothing like Miller because at least Miller never subjected us to prequel horseshit, hear me out.
Lucas crafted the original Trilogy under a heavy editing and financial strain. Studios were very heavy handed with him on deadlines and such to the point he had to make his filmmaking a collaborative process (and for anyone who works in entertainment they know the business is very collaborative). He crafted some fantastic work with the input of those around him. Gary Kurtz being the most outspoken of these peers.
Prequels come along and Lucas had no one to challenge him anymore, and his vision was unrefined as none of the actors, producers, writers and editors challenged him on anything, the collaborative spirit of film making was gone and thus they sucked. Director does not equal Dictator, and unfortunately, Lucas forgot that.
Comics and Film are very similar media. Comics use scripts and screenwriting in much the same way film does, they both have their actors and both are visual media as well.
Frank Miller, when he was working on 300, Sin City, The Dark Knight Returns and even All-Star Batman and Robin, collaborated with those around him, his artists drew fantastic interpretations of his script and together, with an editor, they decided what was best for their characters, story, and the like. However, as Miller became more popular, the comic industry decided to trust his judgment, judgement misplaced as he soon had 100% control over his projects and became a Dictator in the same way George Lucas did. He sullied The Dark Knight Returns with a useless and unnecessary sequel, and he destroyed one of his closest friend's comic titles,Will Eisner's The Spirit, by making a directoral debut that showed his lack of vision without those to challenge him. And now this, a boring recycled mess of anti-Middle East propaganda that does nothing but make those who are already prejudice feel more justified, and those against, disgusted.
Is it sad? Yes. But if Miller keeps doing this, his credibility is going down. I am not even looking forward to Xerxes anymore just because he will ruin it."
Exactly. Stop acting like Ant had a moment of clarity, realizing what a hateable piece of shit he is and wanted to make an honest effort to become a better person.
In his mind, he's doing everything the right way and everyone else (outside of his mooching Yes Men) are completely wrong. If you don't know that's his M.O. by now, then either you haven't been listening to him very long or just haven't been paying attention.
Ant: "So, if I voluntarily go into rehab, then that'll either keep me out of jail completely or shorten the time I would have to spend?"
Ambulance Chaser: "Yes, Mr. Cumia. I advise we go that route."
Ant: "Well, FUCK. I guess I have no choice. Keith, find me the most healthspa-like 'rehab' there is."
Keith (after removing Ant's hog from his mouth): "Sure thing, boss!"
Not gonna happen. For a while I thought he had a chance at potentially being employed by something else someday but I think that's gone out the window.
He made us all laugh and still does/will. I really do wish Ant the best and as much fun as this sub is I still worry about the "effect we have on his life". I don't have great hopes for Ant quitting drinking at the best of times but to come out of rehab to a constant campaign of hate like this with "embittered Cumia fans" genuinely trying to destroy him for their amusement and satisfaction, quitting will be near impossible.
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30 Xx9mmParabellumxX 2016-05-02
Anthony and Jim have made me laugh more than anyone. They made O&A what it was. I can't mercilessly bash them, I still like the guys. I sincerely hope Anthony gets back on track and is able to improve his show.
2 EskimoEscrow 2016-05-02
Same here. Opie on the other hand...
-9 majestik6 2016-05-02
This piece about Frank Miller reminds me of Anthony Cumia:
"Frank Miller reminds me of George Lucas in a way. Now before you all jump on this and claim Lucas is nothing like Miller because at least Miller never subjected us to prequel horseshit, hear me out.
Lucas crafted the original Trilogy under a heavy editing and financial strain. Studios were very heavy handed with him on deadlines and such to the point he had to make his filmmaking a collaborative process (and for anyone who works in entertainment they know the business is very collaborative). He crafted some fantastic work with the input of those around him. Gary Kurtz being the most outspoken of these peers.
Prequels come along and Lucas had no one to challenge him anymore, and his vision was unrefined as none of the actors, producers, writers and editors challenged him on anything, the collaborative spirit of film making was gone and thus they sucked. Director does not equal Dictator, and unfortunately, Lucas forgot that.
Comics and Film are very similar media. Comics use scripts and screenwriting in much the same way film does, they both have their actors and both are visual media as well.
Frank Miller, when he was working on 300, Sin City, The Dark Knight Returns and even All-Star Batman and Robin, collaborated with those around him, his artists drew fantastic interpretations of his script and together, with an editor, they decided what was best for their characters, story, and the like. However, as Miller became more popular, the comic industry decided to trust his judgment, judgement misplaced as he soon had 100% control over his projects and became a Dictator in the same way George Lucas did. He sullied The Dark Knight Returns with a useless and unnecessary sequel, and he destroyed one of his closest friend's comic titles,Will Eisner's The Spirit, by making a directoral debut that showed his lack of vision without those to challenge him. And now this, a boring recycled mess of anti-Middle East propaganda that does nothing but make those who are already prejudice feel more justified, and those against, disgusted.
Is it sad? Yes. But if Miller keeps doing this, his credibility is going down. I am not even looking forward to Xerxes anymore just because he will ruin it."
12 TriangleDimes 2016-05-02
You could have just said "he needs people to challenge him."
3 zmontoya 2016-05-02
What goes through peoples minds when they have the gall to posts walls of text? Especially in a place like this.
2 TunesianKnifeFighter 2016-05-02
What The Fuck?
-1 majestik6 2016-05-02
whoops
5 EskimoEscrow 2016-05-02
Something tells me everything reminds you about that piece from Frank Miller.
2 lelgimps 2016-05-02
Don't worry. I made the same mistake many times.
20 K1bbler 2016-05-02
He hit 15 year mark 5 years ago.
9 aprosbro 2016-05-02
Has he made you laugh in the last 5?
ME: Fuuuuuuuuck there's the joke sniffff
7 Luuvstewspewg 2016-05-02
ick ick ick ick ick ick ick ick ick ick ick
sniff ME:I hadda, I hadda good line you guy's musta mist it.
13 not_AIDS 2016-05-02
You're drunk.
Go to bed.
10 Dennyislife 2016-05-02
this was not a genuine attempt to get sober its to avoid jail time!!! Stop blathering on about him getting well.
4 TacoTrots 2016-05-02
Exactly. Stop acting like Ant had a moment of clarity, realizing what a hateable piece of shit he is and wanted to make an honest effort to become a better person.
In his mind, he's doing everything the right way and everyone else (outside of his mooching Yes Men) are completely wrong. If you don't know that's his M.O. by now, then either you haven't been listening to him very long or just haven't been paying attention.
Ant: "So, if I voluntarily go into rehab, then that'll either keep me out of jail completely or shorten the time I would have to spend?"
Ambulance Chaser: "Yes, Mr. Cumia. I advise we go that route."
Ant: "Well, FUCK. I guess I have no choice. Keith, find me the most healthspa-like 'rehab' there is."
Keith (after removing Ant's hog from his mouth): "Sure thing, boss!"
10 tropicalstormeric 2016-05-02
What a bunch of homos in here.
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2 breadmoccasin 2016-05-02
Ant has fucked up a lot lately but he was alot of why I listened to the show.
I think the death of comedy is when a self-deprecating person takes themselves too seriously, which they are oft to do, (Jim, Ant, Amy, etc)
It killed Ant's likability when, in addition to fucking preteen sheboys, he acted pompous about it. Get better man. And get back to fucking XM.
1 sanfrancisco69er 2016-05-02
Not gonna happen. For a while I thought he had a chance at potentially being employed by something else someday but I think that's gone out the window.
1 OpieArmy 2016-05-02
what? he makes funny things with 15 year olds?
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1 segasarnold 2016-05-02
We love you tranthony!
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-2 thoughts_n_prayers 2016-05-02
picture of Cumia with conjunctivitis
-6 panasonictooth 2016-05-02
He made us all laugh and still does/will. I really do wish Ant the best and as much fun as this sub is I still worry about the "effect we have on his life". I don't have great hopes for Ant quitting drinking at the best of times but to come out of rehab to a constant campaign of hate like this with "embittered Cumia fans" genuinely trying to destroy him for their amusement and satisfaction, quitting will be near impossible.
Downvote me into oblivion.
11 andiswearrrr 2016-05-02
I used to worry about that too, but he fortunately cleared things up for us that we have no effect whatsoever. Sleep easy.
-6 [deleted] 2016-05-02
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2 TunesianKnifeFighter 2016-05-02
What The Fuck?
-1 majestik6 2016-05-02
whoops
12 TriangleDimes 2016-05-02
You could have just said "he needs people to challenge him."
3 zmontoya 2016-05-02
What goes through peoples minds when they have the gall to posts walls of text? Especially in a place like this.