Oh so he's saying the show that he literally didn't even announce until it was online for purchase didn't sell as much as he had expected?

And expected to make at least 500k per episode to just to break even which means 100,000 people would have to religiously watch/donate all 4. Just to break even - not fund any additional eps or anything else. What is this Jim Norton Productions incorporated?

He expected Anthony Cumia show numbers. Like 50 million subs.

Wait, do you mean his hipster business techniques aren't financially viable?

That's why, as pointed out by the nice lady who wrote the article, we all have to band together and help Louis out of this bind he's got himself in. Come on guys lets do it! We owe it to that comedian whose specials are sometimes pretty good.

fuck em

All he has to do is sell some videos himself taking massive shits and cursing. The SJW crowd will bail him out.

A blatant plea for charity as if he or his stupid sad Cheers tribute are culturally important.

we have to bail him out, he's too big to fail!

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You mean something released without promotion on a website that costs roughly 500k per episode isn't financially feasible? Ya kidding. How does a show that looks like a play and is being shot on one location cost that much anyway? This stuff is why you have tv executives and producers. So that they can tell you to your self obsessed face that it wouldn't work. Louis really is a guy that started believing his own hype.

This is particularly funny because Louie would brag about how he could shoot things so cheaply and quickly. He knew all the tricks and shortcuts. I guess not.

People lose touch when they're super rich and surrounded by yes men.

As soon as he started training with Mickey Ward, he was done.

Yeah that also kinda baffles me. But would you go cheap on your magnum opus paid by your daughters college fund?

Agree. Remember when he bragged about that because he made Pootie Tang?

Isn't this this show on a set though? I'm sure he has to rent a studio whereas his other projects are filmed in public places.

the "set" is apparently inside an apartment in new york, Mark Normand talked about it on his podcast.

That's why it cost $500k per episode and not, like, eleventy billion. Duh.

You would be surprised how much tv shows cost, the minimum for 1 hour of scripted television is about $2 million. and it would have been way more for the a-list stars he got in this. Overall $2 million for 4 hours is pretty cheap, that said he expected 200,000 people to pay for this shit, which isn't that huge considering how famous he is, hell he sells out theaters that hold that much so if millions people are willing to pay hundreds to see him why not pay for his new show. It shows how terrible the show is that not even 200000 are paying for it

His website probably doesn't get that much traffic. If the show was available through itunes or wherever I bet alot more people would buy it. But then he wouldn't get 100% of the profits, so what do I know. I bet he ends up breaking even on this thing by selling it to netflix once interest has waned.

It shows how terrible the show is that not even 50000 are paying for it

And think about this: Anthony has 40k subscibers

According to what?

Cost so LITTLE, you MEAN, y'knowutimean?

The SHOW needs CAST, CREW, EQUIPMENT, and SPACE.

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Do you think opies mad that this big scoop broke on Howard's show?

His tits are furious (and fabulous) right now

they're heating up

hot flashes

causing undertit sweat

When was the last time he did Opie's show?

15th april last year I think*

Listened to him on Stern earlier, that headline is bullshit, he said it would turn a profit, this is just the first part of the roll out, he'll almost definitely be selling it to Netflix or HBO.

He was also being vague about his net worth, Louis has plenty of fucking money, he's playing the underdog card because it makes him relatable to all the working Joes out there...yuck.

he'll almost definitely be selling it to Netflix or HBO.

If they'll have that pile of shit

You don't think that HBO will trip over themselves to buy a series that's already been out for months and it's guaranteed his fans and people really interested in it have already seen it? I'm sure they're going to put money on the table for a show with absolutely no hype or anticipation.

Netflix took "fuller house". They'll take any project attached to a name or if it has nostalgic value

i agree, but it seems to me they really love developing their own stuff under their own roof now rather than buying things that other people develop.

though it's not like i've been paying close attention.

They bought women aren't funny.

I understand everyone hates Louie here now, don't really get why or care. But this thing has been under almost universal critical acclaim. He'll find somewhere to sell it to.

Haven't listened to it yet, but that seems most likely. Reminds me of when Michael Moore was on Stern and was clearly embarrassed by his wealth. Tried to downplay it, "I have no investments!" And said he's worth less than a million dollars. I like Louie a lot and it wouldn't matter to me at all if he's actually in debt or if he has 5 mil in the bank. Just deliver the goods and it's all good.

Also, if Louie really is in debt, he could simply do a huge theater tour and rake in millions.

It's rumored that that's what he's doing over the summer

Him playing the underdog card is gonna make my rent any cheaper? I don't think so. What the hell do I know!

Yea he's "in debt" but like he said in the interview he can go on tour and make it back pretty easily.

Or sell the SS Louis.

Louie seems to be really bad at investing:

1) remember the saxophone story?

2) a few years back he made a million dollars on one of his shows, then told everyone and their brother about it. Noob move. Real rich people keep their mouth shut; money changes everything.

yeah, his real genius isn't in the things that he creates but how he markets himself. you're spot on. though i would say it's not the working joes but the DIY punk/hipsters.

HBO doesn't want Lucky Louie Season 2 though.

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You mean people don't like to pay per-episode for TV? I thought a radical new delivery method for serial television viewing of a pretentious dogshit show would really be revolutionary.

The thing is, if Louis had the humility to sell the episodes on iTunes (and give Apple their cut) it would be instantly popular.

Why should I help? He didn't buy any episodes of MY show.

Jerking off on ChatRoulette is not a show, sir.

Just put some Jazz music in the background and you'll have your own version of Louie.

and obligatory black t-shirt

Muh ribs

The only way that comment is ok is if someone kicked you in the ribs for your inanity.

Or if he pulled a rib trying to suck his own dick.

I dunno it was a show when his parents and grandparents walked in on him. I never laughed so hard in my life. And I still finished.

but did he chip in for that Chip Chipperson cartoon ?

I hope someone doesn't blame Metzger for this. It'll result in DAYS of him frantically posting on Twitter while claiming he doesn't pay attention to this place.

On it.

Kurt Metzger is the Millions in Debt-Causing Keeed!

No no no he said not to. Don't do it because Kurt will react immediately to any negative criticism.

PC Louis CK doesn't sell well? Shocking!!!!

PC? Have you seen the show?

He had sex with a transgender on the show. That's PC bullshit.

The point was that she didn't say whether she was or not, it's up to you to interpret.

aaand there's Exhibit B

Look at quickdraw mcgraw here

Louis should have learned from Jimmy. Have your fans finance your shitty show on indiegogo.

Then make 1 episode and bounce.

Holy shit not to mention never following up on any perks.

Exactly. If a virtually unknown freak can raise sixty grand to do an awful cartoon about a character that maybe a few hundred die-hard fans of a defunct radio show even care about, Louis CK could have raised millions.

Jimmy has always been good with money. His house has been paid off for years.

horace and pete is morose and self indulgent. fuck him, i hope he loses his shirt, and his boat.

To make an omelette you gotta break a few million eggs, right gang?

Usually I use a couple eggs

Yeah, if you're eating too many eggs you're gonna have some cholesterol problems down the road.

Oh literal satsamsit!

i'm starvin, do we have a couple million eggs back there?

Fresh out

What a fucking idiot

You have fucking kids you stupid fuck what kind of an egotistical cunt would think going millions in debt is a good idea

Goddamn, comedians are retarded

"Sorry kids I can't afford college I hired A list actors to be in my tv show that no one will pay for"

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His earning potential is well over a million a year. Being a few million in debt isn't a huge deal. He's probably protected personally, his companies will just fold.

Owing money doesn't mean he has to be able to pay it back instantly at all times.

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its the banks money, borrowed by ck's business. the worst thing that happens is his company liquidates. he's putting a spin on it to make it sound funny but im pretty sure he's well covered

how does that stupid show cost $500,000 per episode?

300k for Steve Buscemi, 150k for catering, 50k everything else.

$100k/episode for Pamela Adlon to sit in his trailer and tease her asshole during down times.

you just gave me a sloppy semi

she does look like she appreciates good anal.

For an extra 10k she'll also do a Bobby Hill voice.

It has big named actors like Steve Buscemi, Steven Wright, and Jessica Lange. Also 500 thousand for a one hour episode is still pretty cheap by television standards. "Louie" had a budget of 300K per episode and that was considered extremely frugal. Television is expensive and the pay-per-episode model doesn't work in the same way Louis' pay-per-special model worked.

Steven Wright is a big time actor now? Guys a legendary standup but I dont think his door is getting knocked down with acting offers.

Id say Edie Falco cost a bit more than "The Guy On The Couch"

You would be surprised how much tv shows cost, the minimum for 1 hour of scripted television is about $2 million. and it would have been way more for the a-list stars he got in this. Overall $500 k for 4 hours is pretty cheap, that said he expected 50,000 people to pay for this shit, which isn't that huge considering how famous he is, hell he sells out theaters that hold that much so if millions people are willing to pay hundreds to see him why not pay for his new show. It shows how terrible the show is that not even 50000 are paying for it

We heard you Spielberg

So how much actual work do you think he needs to recoup the money? Tour some, do a new special for HBO, license his old specials to netflix (not epix because no one fucking cares about epix), sell some property. Cash his Pam Adlon show check, cash his Zach Galifinakis show check, cash some other check.

Why would any of you dinguses be doing a little end zone dance like ha ha it finally caught up with Louis. He shits money and everyone seems to love him. Barring breaking Dani Brand's ribs he's going to be a-ok for a while.

He even says in the audio one tour will make the money up. People are acting like he's begging for money on Stern.

Louis CK seems to be terrible with money so it wouldn't surprise me if he did producer work on some stupid barter system.

The only thing more pathetic than celebrating someone's failure is the faggot who always shows up tries to imagine what their bank account looks like. "Dice is gonna be good guys, seriously let's just hypothesize what he makes per show and pick a random number and have that represent what he gets for his show, he's rich and comfy."

Is he though? He's made movies and apparently he has carte blanche to budget his TV show as he sees fit. Seems like he's not terrible with money, he just wants to enjoy spending it.

He has been terrible with money his entire life according to him and the stories from his youth, anyone who says they know anything about his finances is fucking retarded but given that he has talked often about trading money for creative freedom ("carte blanche" with his show doesnt mean he makes MORE money, its most likely the opposite) and reinvesting it in other projects I don't see him as some sort of shrewd businessman.

He is terrible with money, he told stories on O&A where the withdrew everything he had to buy a saxophone then went to a peep show and ended up cumming on the case and never learned how to play it. How he went into debt to buy his boat, how he randomly bought gold coins with his virus tour money. As long as he is as famous as he is and can fill MSG without advertising he is gonna be fine though, he can just make the money doing stand up.

I dont mean he's making great investments and maximizing his earnings or anything like that. But the fact is apparently his arrangement with FX is he takes a check, goes away, and comes back with a show. If he fucks that up once it isn't going to happen anymore, so obviously he can be shrewd when he wants to be, he just usually doesn't want to be.

wont the networks be able to get H&P for dirt cheap if they all know he needs to move it quick?

So coincidental that you make that reference, I happen to know of someone who may have broken Dani Brand's ribs...

Is he serious? For some reason I think he's doing his usual overly humble "I self deprecate myslelf as being a loser when I'm a millionaire celebrity" schtick. If not hes a fucking idiot. Obviously that show appeal to buy at 3 dollars an episode on his stupid website. A network would have obviously picked it up and he let all the praise of his business model go to his head BIG time if he really thought this was going to work for him over working with an actual TV network. Man, I hope this is true and that he really is this much of a stupid fuck.

This is the first time I've heard of this show. Good job with your non marketing, zero.

Even his emails go into my junk folder now automatically. He should fire the company that sends his emails out. They fucked up.

why wouldn't he drop this bombshell on the Opie and Jimmy show? we all know The Opster's all in with The CK. And Jimmy and Louie are old friends.

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Is this Opster going to comment on his ditching their show?

Will he do their show?? He is, fighting for his life over here.

HOWARD can STILL make the NEWS!!!

Louis C. Kanye

Poor guy. This is like Attell with Dave's Old Porn. Like people can say he's an idiot for doing this, but I respect him for it. He took a chance and it didn't work out right away like he thought he would. In today's day and age that takes a lot of balls. Yeah you can call him a hipster douche but that's what I love that about Louie. He just does it himself. And it's got to be rough going on The Howard Stern Show of all things and admit that you fucked up to the tune of millions of dollars.

I get people on here bashing Louie because the first two season were hilarious and dark, right up this subs alley. Then it turned into Emmy bait and was hard to defend (even though I still did enjoy it). Horace and Pete is something that I don't why anyone on here would watch because it's already a forgone conclusion that they'd hate it, so why watch? You can knock Louie all you want but why does everything he puts out have to be gut-bustingly hilarious? He's not allowed to venture into other genres? He's a good director and a creative guy. More power to him!

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Of course not. That shit was on KAT 2 mins after he launched the first ep.

I bought his first standup special from his website. With a TV show I usually prefer to try it out for a few episodes. Even as a big fan of Louis, I tapped out on this after torrenting a few episodes. Not even worth downloading for free.

Agreed. I really wanted to like the show, and I even like "experimental" shit, but H&P are just straight up depressing.

You missed nothing. last episode pete goes off his meds and kills horace. stabs him. his sister decides the bar is like a vicious evil room and all horaces n petes are doomed to repeat the cycle. last thing in the show horaces son shows up, he's also called horace, and is like "wow sweet bar. its mine now cos dads dead?" DUN DUN DUUUUR. thats it, really. high art huh?

At least he put his own money into something he believed in rather than ask his fans to fund something for him.

Most preventable problem in the world.

Hopefully this prevents him from releasing anything even remotely similar to that piece-of-shit show. I've been giving Louis money for everything he's put out since Live at the Beacon Theater and been deriving less and less enjoyment out of each subsequent release until it finally bottomed out with episode 1 of Horace and Pete. Absolute dogshit.

He has to be poor to be successful. The last 2 specials were weak because he had money, fame and respect. And he went from being a slobby, angry comedian to 'Plato' or whatever the fuck QC called him when they put him on its cover. So ya of course the guy became a self indulgent elitist.

MAGA

To be fair, he did make like 5 Million online with his stand up, but that was content his fans knew. This is an awful scripted series where he yet again poorly speaks through multiple characters all using the exact same voice. Except in Louie, he would be in the shot and uncomfortably moving his face around while being dressed down by a character he himself scripted.

I like Louie and get the email for Horace and Pete, and respect him for doing it and all, but I'm just not going to watch it.

Louie's just always gotta be broke. He's made a decent amount at every writing job hes had and has to just get rid of it. Its like the story he told about buying a motorcycle in the 90s with an AmEx when he didn't have any of the money, or buying an expensive saxophone because he wanted to jerk off. Or his recent boats.

he's like Anthony buying a Seadoo on credit, except a ginger jewish mexican

Good. Fuck him.

Everyone was upset when Jimmy crowdfunded and didn't "believe" in his project. Well Louis believed in his and went broke because of it. He also had an incredibly fair pricing model. So which is it? Yeah his advertisement of it stunk but I respect how he does things.

He put an effort into making something, what an asshole. I mean the show is dogshit but god forbid someone take a risk at making something.

HE isn't BROKE. LOUIS CK has SCORCH MONEY!!! HE is LOADED!!!

He is PLAYING up the COST to get NEWS outlets to PICK up the STORY. He wants to SELL the SHOW. PEOPLE will be INTERESTED now.

WOW! People didn't pay for that misery porn shitshow? After the first five minutes of episode 2 I bailed and I was watching it for free. He really needs to shake off this 'profound auteur' delusion. He literally thinks he's a mix of Dostoyevsky and Fellini. He ain't.

Glad to see the cuck bite the dust finally

hopefully this means we get miserable asshole actually funny louie back

He has talked about making risky financial decisions to keep himself motivated. Maybe he meant to do this.

Whatever, everyone is hating on Louie now, I checked some out after reading this and its pretty funny. The buildup to the last joke is hilarious.

"The buildup to the last joke is hilarious."

Yeah...episode 7 of this 10 episode tragedy play was hilarious

Did you see them all? I only saw like 3 youtube clips, 1 was really unfunny, one was OK and I thought that one was funny. Alan Alda is hilarious, bummer the show isn't better.

I saw them all. It's sorta like an epic movie that starts out funny and then ends sadly with death and despair. There's a lot of scenes about bar patrons that don't add directly to the main story. It's Louis' experiment, and I think some things that I found hilarious would turn others off.

If you consider watching it, let me tell you in advance that episode 3 is all just a 40 minute conversation with Louis' character and his ex-wife played by Roseanne's skinny sitcom sister. There's a huge build up to her revealing that she seduced her new husband's 80 year old father.

It's like a "think piece" more than a straight up comedy. You're supposed to dwell about all of the philosophical implications of each moment presented to us.

One more thing, Kurt Metzger's acting, delivery and dialogue was so bad that they made up for it later on by revealing that his character is supposed to always be high on acid.

ITT: schadenfreude

HA

He also told howard today he passed up a snickers commercial for 2 million buckaroos. He doesn't like money.

I don't think anyone here understands debt as it relates to earning potential. He just took a big line of credit that he'll have no trouble paying through touring, his next special, movie roles etc.

I suddenly have a more healthy respect for the financial and mental capabilities of Katt Williams.

I bet it would have made more money if it were a better show.

He was funnier when he was broke anyway. This is good news.

I wish Howard would have offered him 50K to say, "Opie who?"

The headline makes it sound like he went to Vegas and lost his house and his kids' college fund. Being in debt is part of doing business, and "millions" isn't that much if you're talking about a project with a national audience.

Are we talking personal wealth, or production company money?

I kind of want to pirate it now just for the schadenfreude

Nein!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kdOPBP9vuZA

Good idea to sell stand up straight on the site but not a tv show.

Now's a good time for his ex wife to take him back to court and wring him completely dry.

exxxxcellent, this made me happy and i dont mind Louis just hate how hes worshipped

At least he put his own money on the line and didn't use another shitty Kickstarter campaign. (Like someone else we know)

Funny seeing how few people listened to the 4 minute clip in the article.

He says it will probably pay itself off by summer, and he will sell it to a network or streaming service next year.

The best part is that he talked about doing a bunch of shows to push it like he's never pushed anything. He listed a bunch of shows he'd be doing. Wonder if that includes O&J...

There's no way 2 million broke him. Even Jimmy has that stockpiled by now.

If LOUIS was SERIOUS about drumming up INTEREST in his SHOW, he would have JOINED the PFG SPONSOR "FAMILY". MILLIONS of HOME throughout the WORLD would have SEEN the AD spot!!!

PFG-TV has more VIEWERS than the SUPER BOWL and MINUTES of AD TIME only cost $500!!!!

This absolute moron spent several million dollars of his own money on Horace and Pete, it bombed, so he threw good credit after bad money and is now 3 million in debt.

It looks like the Mexican side overrode the Jew side.

It really was a looong filmed 2 act play. If you have time to waste, go out and find it. Unfortunately, I liked it, but I won't be paying for it as I've already seen them all on streaming sites.

Opie will offer him the stangle money.

Opie will offer him $10,000 if he and Lynsi can get producer credit for Season 2.

lies more lies

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I am pretty damn well versed on pop culture and I have never heard of this show.

So sell it netflix now that you've tapped out sales on your site

It doesnt look that expensive...

What a dumb title for an article.

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499k to pay off all the female cast members he jerked off in front of and 1k to make the steaming pile of dogshit show.

Where did you get this 500k figure?

What is jokes?

Jokes are supposed to be funny

You should tell Louis, he's never been able to figure that out.

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That show is so boring you'd have thought a woman wrote it.

Bullshit, he's sitting pretty for life. His "business fund" might be in debt meaning he's down quite a bit on this investment but the guy's loaded to the gills. "In debt" implies impending homelessness and inability to provide for children. At the worst Louis has his kids futures sewn up and some solid real estate. That's not in debt or bankrupt, it means he spent all his excess money on creative shit.

The show stinks and I don't like it

womp womp

You mean "Pig Newton", the production company he owns is in debt millions? Since when are fans obligated to support every project of artists they like?

I made it through 3 eps and bailed. It reminded me of some PT Anderson movies... quality writing, directing, great acting, but just not entertaining in the least.

I hope this cuck learnt his lesson and sticks to doing standup from now on. No one wants to hear your insufferable political opinions shoehorned into some masturbatory play with almost zero laughs per episode.

Louie needs to stop using retards like metzger and dipalo.

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Did he do Howard and not Opie and Jim?

LOUIS felt like HAMBURGER that day. PIZZA isn't BAD, but HE just wasn't in the MOOD for PIZZA!!!

Somewhere, Paul O is laughing his ass off amidst a storage unit filled with unsold GAP dvds.

https://youtu.be/PG-qCyYZRms

no it didn't. he is trying to be avaunt-guard "i pored everything into this art, i jeopardized my children's future for the sake of my art"
Fuck off this is just more " I AM THE NEXT WOODY ALLEN" bullshit

oops!

good. he sucks.

Its kind of reassuring to my own mental wellbeing that not everyone is lapping up his bullshit like I thought they were. Worst part is, that he is so big just saying that/going on Howard will get him out of the hole.

Rather than doing something like making a great Louie movie, or God forbid another season of his tv show about himself.

The Jew blood runs weak in this one- Nick DiPaolo laughed about how impractical he was when they were roommates years ago. Guess he hasn't changed.

"I'll just go on the road later to make the money back up"

Louie thinking his ticket sales will remain high forever.

hahahaha thats fucking hilarious! couldnt have happened to a more flaming liberal faggot cocksucker! this made my day. now if only schumer would announce something awful id be set.

Now everybody who bemoans the lack of quality in the product of the comedians they used to love lines up to shit on a comic who used his own money to finance something good. Yeah, let's make sure he regrets trying. Fuck all of you spoiled autistic children with no balls, no attention span and absolutely nothing to offer the world other than the occasional "Nah, nah".

The apocalypse will set you straight.

You timid cunts will fucking die of starvation or thirst at some point after some black guy see's you're paralyzed with fear and relieves you of all your supplies and I hope you get to hear someone giggle at your ridiculous plight before you go.

2edgy4me

Should have thrown in a "sheeple" for good measure.

Maybe next harangue.

No, you're not sheeple. Sheep provide wool and the occasional fuck.

You provide the text equivalent of a toddler pushing it's plate off the table.

its*

Yes, the Louis CK fans shall inherit the earth.

I'm sure those bad ass hipsters will rule after the apocalypse.

We couldn't possibly compete with your generalized sullen bitchiness. What are you, a Goth?

I'm not the one constructing fantasies of people being punished after the apocalypse for daring to criticize Louis.

Where was there criticism? All I see is shit-throwing.

You were typing out fantasies about the apocalypse but you don't know what hyperbole is?

I do. That's how I know that "daring to criticize Louis" is not recognizable as hyperbole on this sub.

Well, I was with you to a point.

Carve out your own side, I'm good right here.

I dont think you understand the spirit of this sub. I'm going watch it and even if I like it, I'll rip the shit out of it for no reason.

Then, two threads over, I'll defend the show from someone attacking Louie, and say the show is great.

I doubt everyone is adhering to the unspoken ethos of this sub and are really just being genuinely ignorant, cunty brats.

The show is fucking amazing. If you have some spare bucks, I totally recommend it.

Thanks, Lou.

If by "Amazing" you mean "Painfully Dull" then i agree completely

Oh I don't think he means that at all!

I bought his first standup special from his website. With a TV show I usually prefer to try it out for a few episodes. Even as a big fan of Louis, I tapped out on this after torrenting a few episodes. Not even worth downloading for free.

Or if he pulled a rib trying to suck his own dick.

Look at quickdraw mcgraw here