Perfect description and that's what I like about Patton. He can pontificate and be long winded, but that's who he is. I can respect that. It's not to convince people that he's smarter than he is
I think of Norton as having the Great Gazoo following him around everywhere, with a voice like Florentine, constantly telling him he's a fag for liking things.
There's a psychological theory that before Homosapiens achieved complete sentience they actually experienced something like what you're talking about and it eventually became what we call religion.
'The worm' may actually be less of an insult and more of an accurate description of Norton's place on the evolutionary scale
Also Patton is very intelligent. Jim is a shithead, and this often goes overlooked because he's been getting out shined by Tits this whole time, who is pretty deep on the spectrum. "Gravity is caused by the Earth's rotation." doesn't seem so bad next to "What about saltwater makes you sick?"
The way he is comfortable whining and calling people racist on Twitter all day. Patton is the initial SJW comedian...
This subreddit has turned into ShitRedditSays.
He could be Patton, except Patton's comedy has depth, wit, social commentary, and meaning. Jim is funny as shit on the radio show, but his standup is pandering, weak nonsense.
Even if Jimmy could be less topical and sexual, he still couldnt get to Pattons level because there is no CHANCE he could do movies and TV like Patton does. Even if he got the parts, he wouldnt be able to pull it off. I dont usually even notice acting and he's the worst actor ive ever seen.
Louie and Lucky Louie was literally the worst acting I've ever seen. It's like a high school kid auditioning for a play in the take that makes the air. Meanwhile Patton is great, and can carry entire movies, Big Fan is one of my favorites. Jim gets 1 second cameos cut by someone who practically owes him for her career.
I didn't notice Jimmy's bad acting in Louie because he played such a creepy weirdo that his mannerisms seemed normal. I kinda think it worked. If that show continued, I wouldn't of minded seeing him in the same role.
and I already reponded but that ending was one of the most underrated movie endings Ive ever seen. I never hear anyone talk about it but Patton and the reveal its a Giants colored paintball gun and him in jail with his friend excited about the next season as his tragic character is one of the most genius movie endings ive ever seen. Patton is truly a great actor and the thought of jimmy doing anything like that is laughable.
I think Jimmy could do a dramatic role if he let himself go. He has a hard time not demeaning himself or making an aids joke every 2 minutes. It's a major self defense mechanism. It's funny, but that only goes so far if you wanna broaden your roles. Louie did the same thing as Patton - he did some drama with Horace and Pete and it works very well.
Jimmy can't become an actor until they have technology built into cameras to combat his rapid blinking. CGIing away all his blinks would be cost prohibitive so they need a mechanical or medical work around to the problem.
In 10 years his comedy career will be done and his sexual deviancy will have full control and he'll do pop ups in tranny or fetish porn as the goofy semi famous guy there to make people laugh.
shut the fuck up you can see who it is even if auto correfct fucked it up. this place full of knuckle draggers amd now u give a care about spelling? die
Off the top of my head; that first 1 hour special for Comedy Central where he performs on the stage with the giant O & his album Werewolves & Lollipops. It's not really a material thing, he just does Attell's inflection in nearly every part of both specials. His "Facts about midgets" bit is the only thing where the material is a little too Attell-y.
I don't see it either. And Patton has been a comedian for nearly as long as Attell. What, was he ripping off Attell while Attell had a 35 second spot on Premium Blend in 1994?
You think jokes/mannerisms can only be picked up from TV spots? I have no opinion on Patton mimicking Attell, but the sickening circle jerk you guys are performing around Patton makes me hope and pray he Schumered the shit out of Attell. "Patton is sooooo intelligent." "Yes! He speaks from the heart, and doesn't care if he....."
Okay, but why is Attell looked at as the voice of a generation of comics all of a sudden? It started with Jay Oakerson and now suddenly Patton is ripping off Attell's entire persona. They share literally zero things in common beyond being fat and arguably funny anyway. I see no ways in which Patton rips off Attell.
And by the way, retard, I fucking love Dave Attell. The first time I heard Skanks for the Memories is one of the hardest sober laughs I ever had in my life. I like Patton to a degree, but I would never put him near the top of the list of my favorite comics. Go take your angsty tryhard bullshit somewhere else, faggot.
yeah I figured you meant inflection and not material. Obviously attell is the most commonly stolen comedic persona, I'll have to look out for it with patton. I wouldnt really hold it against him i just think its funny
There's an episode of O&A where Patrice is talking with another comedian & they're bringing up people whose styles of comedy are commonly taken. They bring up Attell as being the most stolen & the first name out of Patrice's mouth is Patton. Ever since then, I can't really not hear Attell when I hear him. If I could figure out who the comedian was then I could find the clip. I'm thinking someone like Maron, Attell himself, or maybe even Demetri Martin. I'll see if I can dig it up.
I know exactly what youre talkin about. I remember for sure that he called Patton a "Maron baby" while they were talking about other comics who did Attell, saying they were "babies" of Attell. I don't remember if he said Patton did Attell too or not, but I remember for sure he said he did Maron. And I don't remember who else they talked about specifically. If it's easy to find on youtube itd be worth checking but if not I wouldnt worry about it
EDIT: If I'm right and he did say maron, I really think he meant to say attell. Maron just does typical jew, and patton sounds a lot more like attell than him
There's like no relationship between Patton Oswalt and Dave Attell's comedy aside from the fact that they'll both get really wordy and make pop cultural references. You might as well say that Patton Oswalt aspires to be Dennis Miller.
I never really associated Attell with voice inflection, but I'll pay attention for it next time. In my mind he just speaks in a miserable almost-monotone kind of voice.
Also if you guys have never seen Attell live you should hate yourselves for it until you do. He's probably the most talented club comic in existence. It's almost scary how good he is.
I have never seen anything from Patton Oswalt outside of King Of Queens, but that show was great and puts him light years beyond anything Norton has done.
Nah that was up there on that elite comedian level comeback like Kurt Metzger uses not some lame civilian shit that Marion would use. You sir are an elite comedian on par with Mr. Metzger.
He probably shouldn't do that. Oswalt has somehow done the move-to-LA and become a SJW faggot King and now does LGBT Youth circuits convincing teenagers they want gay sex (and its great!) when he's not on twitter being a slightly funnier Michael Moore.
But then again that might be a step up for Jim Norton I suppose?
Influential celebrities and ones who are your childhood favourites especially (for the teens in that audience he's their loved childhood character).
Yes.
Actually that is about all it takes for Oswald to groom a confused kid into sucking a dick yes.
Even if it was 100% socially acceptable to be gay ( in most parts of the world it isn't) there wouldn't be an increase of homosexuality it would just make those hiding it to come out in the open. Is this what you're against? Basically freedom which the right wing keeps saying they are fighting for. Doesn't make sense until you introduce religious affiliation into the mix.
there wouldn't be an increase of homosexuality it would just make those hiding it to come out in the open.
wow how convenient - you can prove it with your 'secret knowledge' after all.
Yes, people have the freedom to get twisted by internet porn/grooming (like youre doing) then brainwashed and manipulated until for desperate social/psychological reasons get drugged enough to learn homosexuality even though they were absolutely screwing girls, married but...
..then tell people actually they knew this since they were 8 years old. That everything else was the lie.
Anyways, Oswald is a pedo-enabler and he LOVES IT because he thinks it hurts right-wing religious types. not because he cares about getting teens to want gay sexual gratification and convince others to do that same.
because you are seeing truth posted online and you are really upset that other people might recognize it and this will hurt the sorts of anticonservative world you want.
So you tried desperately to negate it, cancel it, obscure it or really just mock and makeup nonsense things you know to be false. Whatever it takes.
Meanwhile, I'm interested in 'What is true' and im much much closer to that answer than you are..
Okay, but why is Attell looked at as the voice of a generation of comics all of a sudden? It started with Jay Oakerson and now suddenly Patton is ripping off Attell's entire persona. They share literally zero things in common beyond being fat and arguably funny anyway. I see no ways in which Patton rips off Attell.
And by the way, retard, I fucking love Dave Attell. The first time I heard Skanks for the Memories is one of the hardest sober laughs I ever had in my life. I like Patton to a degree, but I would never put him near the top of the list of my favorite comics. Go take your angsty tryhard bullshit somewhere else, faggot.
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39 MicrowaveYourFork 2016-02-25
Patton is comfortable in his own skin and doesn't feel the need to be somebody he isn't to impress the imaginary high school tough guys in his head.
14 JMueller2012 2016-02-25
Perfect description and that's what I like about Patton. He can pontificate and be long winded, but that's who he is. I can respect that. It's not to convince people that he's smarter than he is
19 MicrowaveYourFork 2016-02-25
I think of Norton as having the Great Gazoo following him around everywhere, with a voice like Florentine, constantly telling him he's a fag for liking things.
7 boogsuge 2016-02-25
Like getting fucked in the ass and suckin dick? The voice may have a point
10 WiretapStudios 2016-02-25
Also for liking Kiss, compulsively getting signatures, and not listening to standup, I think the voice does have a point.
4 [deleted] 2016-02-25
There's a psychological theory that before Homosapiens achieved complete sentience they actually experienced something like what you're talking about and it eventually became what we call religion.
'The worm' may actually be less of an insult and more of an accurate description of Norton's place on the evolutionary scale
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicameralism_%28psychology%29
2 Nulltor 2016-02-25
Interesting theory, kind of like id and super-ego.
6 TakeMeXenu 2016-02-25
Patton IS smarter than most people, but he would never admit it - to himself even. He's the opposite of Tits.
11 TakeMeXenu 2016-02-25
Patton also reads books that aren't Ozzy biography's or tranny mags.
5 WiretapStudios 2016-02-25
Patton has read more books in a year than the entire O+A staff has for the run of the show.
1 TakeMeXenu 2016-02-25
He's a genuine nerd. He does readings at fucking library's of classic books in LA.
3 WiretapStudios 2016-02-25
You sir, are definitely not a nerd.
0 TakeMeXenu 2016-02-25
I can't disagree. And what's with the sir shit? I ain't the fuckin' prezudent.
3 PuffsPlusArmada 2016-02-25
Also Patton is very intelligent. Jim is a shithead, and this often goes overlooked because he's been getting out shined by Tits this whole time, who is pretty deep on the spectrum. "Gravity is caused by the Earth's rotation." doesn't seem so bad next to "What about saltwater makes you sick?"
-1 wilfguy13 2016-02-25
The way he is comfortable whining and calling people racist on Twitter all day. Patton is the initial SJW comedian... This subreddit has turned into ShitRedditSays.
31 TakeMeXenu 2016-02-25
He could be Patton, except Patton's comedy has depth, wit, social commentary, and meaning. Jim is funny as shit on the radio show, but his standup is pandering, weak nonsense.
-6 MasterShake1171 2016-02-25
It does? I thought he just made a bunch of Star Wars references.
-5 Wellshiteinabucket 2016-02-25
Yeah Patton sucks on stage. It's a mix of geek hipster shit and Bill Hicks pretentious soapbox stuff. He was good on O&A though.
3 MasterShake1171 2016-02-25
I like him on The Heart, She Holler.
2 SteakSauce66 2016-02-25
Fucking GREAT! Damn shame Kristen Schaal was replaced.
2 MasterShake1171 2016-02-25
I know. She was perfect for that part. With Amy Sedaris in that role I just see Jerri Blank.
-3 SteakSauce66 2016-02-25
Me too and I lose my mind because that show was super gay. She's horrid.
5 MasterShake1171 2016-02-25
Fuck no. Strangers with Candy was great. I just like Schaal better for this show.
-2 SteakSauce66 2016-02-25
Boo. Yuck. YOU HAVE NO PENIS!
0 AiCPearlJam 2016-02-25
You fags have clearly never listened to "Feelin' Kinda Patton" or "222", have you?
His newest stuff is weak compared to his first albums but you can't deny his early stuff still is fucking hysterical.
16 sanfrancisco69er 2016-02-25
Even if Jimmy could be less topical and sexual, he still couldnt get to Pattons level because there is no CHANCE he could do movies and TV like Patton does. Even if he got the parts, he wouldnt be able to pull it off. I dont usually even notice acting and he's the worst actor ive ever seen.
13 TakeMeXenu 2016-02-25
Did you see him in Louie? fuck. Stiffer than frozen concrete. He took the Adam Carolla acting class.
13 sanfrancisco69er 2016-02-25
Louie and Lucky Louie was literally the worst acting I've ever seen. It's like a high school kid auditioning for a play in the take that makes the air. Meanwhile Patton is great, and can carry entire movies, Big Fan is one of my favorites. Jim gets 1 second cameos cut by someone who practically owes him for her career.
10 TakeMeXenu 2016-02-25
So good.
I didn't notice Jimmy's bad acting in Louie because he played such a creepy weirdo that his mannerisms seemed normal. I kinda think it worked. If that show continued, I wouldn't of minded seeing him in the same role.
5 sanfrancisco69er 2016-02-25
and I already reponded but that ending was one of the most underrated movie endings Ive ever seen. I never hear anyone talk about it but Patton and the reveal its a Giants colored paintball gun and him in jail with his friend excited about the next season as his tragic character is one of the most genius movie endings ive ever seen. Patton is truly a great actor and the thought of jimmy doing anything like that is laughable.
1 TakeMeXenu 2016-02-25
I think Jimmy could do a dramatic role if he let himself go. He has a hard time not demeaning himself or making an aids joke every 2 minutes. It's a major self defense mechanism. It's funny, but that only goes so far if you wanna broaden your roles. Louie did the same thing as Patton - he did some drama with Horace and Pete and it works very well.
1 sanfrancisco69er 2016-02-25
True true, the blinking and twitching in Louie kinda added to it and he got through it well enough, but Lucky Louie jesus
0 stinkskc 2016-02-25
Wasn't a fan of the show when lucky Louie was on and Jim really made me uneasy and I hated his character
3 imcrapyall 2016-02-25
I usually agree on Carolla but The Hammer was pretty good.
2 TakeMeXenu 2016-02-25
I liked the hammer. Road Work was what got me - as far as his acting.
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2 DaveNone 2016-02-25
Jimmy can't become an actor until they have technology built into cameras to combat his rapid blinking. CGIing away all his blinks would be cost prohibitive so they need a mechanical or medical work around to the problem.
In 10 years his comedy career will be done and his sexual deviancy will have full control and he'll do pop ups in tranny or fetish porn as the goofy semi famous guy there to make people laugh.
2 fishcado 2016-02-25
In 10 years? You're being overly generous.
5 SirWallaceII 2016-02-25
Patton and Jimmy is the same as to compare Teddy Roosovelt and Corey Feldman.
1 chicken-named-mike 2016-02-25
Who?
-2 SirWallaceII 2016-02-25
shut the fuck up you can see who it is even if auto correfct fucked it up. this place full of knuckle draggers amd now u give a care about spelling? die
5 chicken-named-mike 2016-02-25
You need to turn your frown upside down.
5 SirWallaceII 2016-02-25
you do have a good point :)
2 chicken-named-mike 2016-02-25
:D :D
2 SirWallaceII 2016-02-25
:-p
4 TheAmazingPearl 2016-02-25
Dave Attell is the comedian that Patton Oswalt is.
3 sanfrancisco69er 2016-02-25
Does he do attell? I've never thought to notice but its also never really jumped at me. any examples where you think its particularly bad?
1 TheAmazingPearl 2016-02-25
Off the top of my head; that first 1 hour special for Comedy Central where he performs on the stage with the giant O & his album Werewolves & Lollipops. It's not really a material thing, he just does Attell's inflection in nearly every part of both specials. His "Facts about midgets" bit is the only thing where the material is a little too Attell-y.
12 TakeMeXenu 2016-02-25
There is zero likeness in Attell and Patton. Mannerisms and material. Do you huff paint?
4 BoardroomBimmy 2016-02-25
I don't see it either. And Patton has been a comedian for nearly as long as Attell. What, was he ripping off Attell while Attell had a 35 second spot on Premium Blend in 1994?
0 DrSANDMAN09 2016-02-25
You think jokes/mannerisms can only be picked up from TV spots? I have no opinion on Patton mimicking Attell, but the sickening circle jerk you guys are performing around Patton makes me hope and pray he Schumered the shit out of Attell. "Patton is sooooo intelligent." "Yes! He speaks from the heart, and doesn't care if he....."
1 BoardroomBimmy 2016-02-25
Okay, but why is Attell looked at as the voice of a generation of comics all of a sudden? It started with Jay Oakerson and now suddenly Patton is ripping off Attell's entire persona. They share literally zero things in common beyond being fat and arguably funny anyway. I see no ways in which Patton rips off Attell.
And by the way, retard, I fucking love Dave Attell. The first time I heard Skanks for the Memories is one of the hardest sober laughs I ever had in my life. I like Patton to a degree, but I would never put him near the top of the list of my favorite comics. Go take your angsty tryhard bullshit somewhere else, faggot.
2 sanfrancisco69er 2016-02-25
yeah I figured you meant inflection and not material. Obviously attell is the most commonly stolen comedic persona, I'll have to look out for it with patton. I wouldnt really hold it against him i just think its funny
4 TheAmazingPearl 2016-02-25
There's an episode of O&A where Patrice is talking with another comedian & they're bringing up people whose styles of comedy are commonly taken. They bring up Attell as being the most stolen & the first name out of Patrice's mouth is Patton. Ever since then, I can't really not hear Attell when I hear him. If I could figure out who the comedian was then I could find the clip. I'm thinking someone like Maron, Attell himself, or maybe even Demetri Martin. I'll see if I can dig it up.
2 sanfrancisco69er 2016-02-25
I know exactly what youre talkin about. I remember for sure that he called Patton a "Maron baby" while they were talking about other comics who did Attell, saying they were "babies" of Attell. I don't remember if he said Patton did Attell too or not, but I remember for sure he said he did Maron. And I don't remember who else they talked about specifically. If it's easy to find on youtube itd be worth checking but if not I wouldnt worry about it
EDIT: If I'm right and he did say maron, I really think he meant to say attell. Maron just does typical jew, and patton sounds a lot more like attell than him
3 callmesnake13 2016-02-25
There's like no relationship between Patton Oswalt and Dave Attell's comedy aside from the fact that they'll both get really wordy and make pop cultural references. You might as well say that Patton Oswalt aspires to be Dennis Miller.
1 TheAmazingPearl 2016-02-25
I'm specifically talking about using Dave Attell's wacky voice during a punchline. Yes, Patton does it sometimes.
4 callmesnake13 2016-02-25
I never really associated Attell with voice inflection, but I'll pay attention for it next time. In my mind he just speaks in a miserable almost-monotone kind of voice.
Also if you guys have never seen Attell live you should hate yourselves for it until you do. He's probably the most talented club comic in existence. It's almost scary how good he is.
2 cakehornnigga 2016-02-25
Hmmmm, never picked that up. What are some of those other examples we got?
3 AiCPearlJam 2016-02-25
Feelin' Kinda Patton is probably one of the greatest comedy albums ever put out. Monster Rain...is not.
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1 majestik6 2016-02-25
I'm not loying!
1 ThankGodForBeer 2016-02-25
1 SteakSauce66 2016-02-25
He certainly is a fuckable little hobbit.
1 Marathon_Man_3k 2016-02-25
Patton is a piece of shit
1 April_Fawls 2016-02-25
I have never seen anything from Patton Oswalt outside of King Of Queens, but that show was great and puts him light years beyond anything Norton has done.
2 americanmook 2016-02-25
Big fan is fire.
1 badtanman 2016-02-25
Patton has always been at the lowest rung of my ladder ever since he did that Minecraft video game. At least Jimmy has integrity...well sort of
0 majin_babidi 2016-02-25
Better looking? Nope. Pat's an AA guy too btw.
1 MSteve1232000 2016-02-25
Since when? He's a settled in adult drinker, and talks about his favorite spirits all the time, unless something has changed very recently.
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-8 lordofallshit 2016-02-25
patton is a leftist twat and he's fat.
7 chicken-named-mike 2016-02-25
"You're fat!"
Hashtag Marion insults.
1 DaveNone 2016-02-25
Nah that was up there on that elite comedian level comeback like Kurt Metzger uses not some lame civilian shit that Marion would use. You sir are an elite comedian on par with Mr. Metzger.
2 chicken-named-mike 2016-02-25
Marion should write for Metzger.
0 lordofallshit 2016-02-25
Well part of this thread's title said he was better looking. He's a fat little troll. He's ugly as shit. He'd probably be a firing if not for fame.
-9 darockzilla25 2016-02-25
He's a disgusting leftist faggot.
-9 JuiceBusters 2016-02-25
He probably shouldn't do that. Oswalt has somehow done the move-to-LA and become a SJW faggot King and now does LGBT Youth circuits convincing teenagers they want gay sex (and its great!) when he's not on twitter being a slightly funnier Michael Moore.
But then again that might be a step up for Jim Norton I suppose?
3 BoardroomBimmy 2016-02-25
It is
1 Anarox 2016-02-25
Because that's all it takes, Patton Oswald saying it's okay to suck a dick then magically you go out on a cock binge
1 JuiceBusters 2016-02-25
Influential celebrities and ones who are your childhood favourites especially (for the teens in that audience he's their loved childhood character). Yes.
Actually that is about all it takes for Oswald to groom a confused kid into sucking a dick yes.
1 Anarox 2016-02-25
Even if it was 100% socially acceptable to be gay ( in most parts of the world it isn't) there wouldn't be an increase of homosexuality it would just make those hiding it to come out in the open. Is this what you're against? Basically freedom which the right wing keeps saying they are fighting for. Doesn't make sense until you introduce religious affiliation into the mix.
1 JuiceBusters 2016-02-25
wow how convenient - you can prove it with your 'secret knowledge' after all.
Yes, people have the freedom to get twisted by internet porn/grooming (like youre doing) then brainwashed and manipulated until for desperate social/psychological reasons get drugged enough to learn homosexuality even though they were absolutely screwing girls, married but...
..then tell people actually they knew this since they were 8 years old. That everything else was the lie.
Anyways, Oswald is a pedo-enabler and he LOVES IT because he thinks it hurts right-wing religious types. not because he cares about getting teens to want gay sexual gratification and convince others to do that same.
1 Anarox 2016-02-25
why did I bother.
1 JuiceBusters 2016-02-25
because you are seeing truth posted online and you are really upset that other people might recognize it and this will hurt the sorts of anticonservative world you want.
So you tried desperately to negate it, cancel it, obscure it or really just mock and makeup nonsense things you know to be false. Whatever it takes.
Meanwhile, I'm interested in 'What is true' and im much much closer to that answer than you are..
...and you know it too.
1 Anarox 2016-02-25
GET OUT OF MY BRAIN YOU WITCH
-12 MouseCunt 2016-02-25
Patton is a hack.
1 BoardroomBimmy 2016-02-25
Okay, but why is Attell looked at as the voice of a generation of comics all of a sudden? It started with Jay Oakerson and now suddenly Patton is ripping off Attell's entire persona. They share literally zero things in common beyond being fat and arguably funny anyway. I see no ways in which Patton rips off Attell.
And by the way, retard, I fucking love Dave Attell. The first time I heard Skanks for the Memories is one of the hardest sober laughs I ever had in my life. I like Patton to a degree, but I would never put him near the top of the list of my favorite comics. Go take your angsty tryhard bullshit somewhere else, faggot.