Take this to ron and fez. But you probably have some weird gay thing for ron and now that a female presence is getting his attention it upsets you.

You think you hate women but actually you just love men.

I'm not sure you need a convoluted middle-school-level psychoanalysis to find out why a user from this sub might make hyperbolic statements based on weak logic to deliberately bash a radio show.

I was just insulting him in a way that could hit home. I don't believe in the half assed diagnosis, but there are definitely a segment of closeted fags on this sub.

Gotta play the odds.

does it count if I'm just closeted gay for black guys?

I was teasing before but I really do support your lifestyle dude. Even if your lifestyle is closeted dork.

The only segment of closeted gays on this sub are the people like yourself that love wrestling and post on /r/squaredcircle to express how much they love wrestling.

You are always so upset about it. You are the stereotype of this subs closeted.

You might not literally be closeted. But your experience with women is so small that it makes you insecure to hear.

"HEY! I'm not closted! I'm straight and have never been laid! Fuck this jerk!"

Must be a tough life.

Yeah I'm the stereotype of the subreddits closeted when it's you who willingly watches greasy men play fight in underwear. Make another lengthy post projecting your faggotry stupid.

what is this squaredcircle shit? I don't even know what I'm reading

How exactly was Rons criticism stupid? These Indie singers are ALL doing the exact same thing with their obnoxious affected voices. On top of that, you "guaranteed" that Gail loves these young artists, based on what? I've never heard her mention any one of those artists. Also, why do you give a fuck if Ron can change her mind? She is his daughter, they have similar personalities and she respects his opinions. You seem a bit obsessed.

I stand corrected, not obsessed at all.

What singers from the 50s and 60s that she idolizes are doing the same thing Indie singers are doing now? The affected voice thing is relatively new. Also, this idea that Fez would challenge Ron on things is ridiculous. Fez did and said whatever he thought Ron wanted. Why does there need to be conflict anyway? Ron is still a genius, and he still has Pepper there to fuck with. Not sure what the problem is.

Ruined the show? What are you babbling about. R+F was never better the last few years of its run.

So what should Ron do in your opinion? Tell them outside of the show that he wants them to stand up to him more if they don't agree with something? I think that would be a good move.

It's ultimately on Gail and Chris to have the balls and initiative to do that though, isn't it? It's easier to just agree than to have come up with a counterpoint and argue your case. I don't put all the blame on Ron here, though of course I don't know what's going on behind the scenes.

But to have a more measured consideration of it. Ron is a know it all and there's nothing wrong with the know it all dad act but in the absence of conflict that's not a humorous character. It's a character that needs to stumble every now and then to be humanized. That's why Ron and Fez as a character dichotomy worked - Fez could fluster Ron or at the least be a strong counterpoint/juxtaposition. Gail is funny on her own and also could be such a natural foil but that's wasted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky9Ro9pP2gc

If this is anything to go by, it looks like Ron is on the money. This is horrendous. WTF.

what bro? you don't like how none of the tones of her voice make sense when put together or against the background piano? she's revolutionary

It seems like music for people who want to flit around in a pretend fantasy world. Her voice sounds like it could be good, but that singing style is pretentious and honestly just stupid.

listening to that shit just reminds me how much I want to bang fiona apple.

I got your point. Gail kowtows to Ron. I'm just talking about something else.

I have a dad I instantly agree with on most shit (except LGBT issues cuz he's old and doesn't get it.) But come on - part of having a good relationship with your father in adulthood is the willingness to agree. I like Gail.

but he's a father figure to Gail and Pepper - you gotta kind of respect their respect. Respect? Respect. I'm drunk at 8:47.

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I'm not fucking Chinese, obviously AM

I really like Ronnie and I've tried to listen to Bennington but the only ones that I've really liked are when they are trying to figure out what happened to Chris Stanley when he got hospitalized that one time. The rest of it just seems like the king is talking to his advisors that are scared of getting their heads lopped off. So I guess I have the same problem with it.

Fez used to avoid confrontation with Ron too. Even though Ron was always the pot stirrer, calling out Fez and encouraging the others to join in, Fez would dance around those eggshells and only go after Chris, Shelby or someone else. Listen to any fight from that show and you will see this taking place. Nothing new here.

One thing that often gets overlooked is that all the guys we loved to listen to, Stern, Ron, Anthony,....these are older guys now. Their mindset has changed from what made us enjoy listening to them. It sucks but, things change. Their best stuff is behind them and we are upset by that.

Exactly! (said in Iron Sheik voice for shits n giggles)

Or maybe they share the same opinions because Ron is a strong personality and he raised Gail. I get that you might be hungry for some conflict, but no reason you should be looking for it from Ron's daughter.

Ron has always been surrounded by yes-men. Has anyone ever called him out on it?

She should just scream in his face "bob dylan you jowly motherfucker." Those are three very affected vocal styles, Ron will tell you he's on the vanguard of taste but he does a lot of 'kids these days' bitching.
Gail does love 60s girl groups and those are pretty stylized vocal choices.

women's opinions don't matter.

they're just boxes of twat cunt