So are you defending or criticizing Ant? You're being too vague here.

Both. I defend the inconsequential shit and condemn the man as a whole.

How could he be so obtuse?

SOLITARY, A MONTH!

I thought this was going to be more about how you NEVER have to guess what Ants view on whatever topic is going to be. As opposed to the early XM days when he was reasonable and his opinion on things could surprise you...

I used to like in the XM days when "professor Anthony" would show up out of nowhere with some knowledge. Now he's the "Global warming? Yeah right, look how much snow we got yesterday!" guy. Aside from the religious stuff (gay marriage, abortion, etc.), he hits every conservative talking point on every issue.

I love when dumbass people say that when speaking of global warming. They're basically asking "WHY IS IT COLD IN THE WINTER!?".

But yeah, early XM Ant was the best of any era. Past all the shock jock bullshit and before he became a miserable guy who screams about race or guns for hours at any chance he gets.

I remember listening to one clip from like 2004 where they're speaking to a the leader of a white supremacist band, and Ant actually says, in total seriousness, that while there may be alot of black/rap music that advocates violence or anger towards whites, that the answer isn't to do the same with the roles reversed, and thats just the way it is at the time and theres nothing they can do to change it. As someone who is use to the miserable screaming racist Ant, it was fucking shocking.

Another clip I even posted about a couple years ago was when he was telling the story about black kids bullying people at his school when he was younger, and a black guy calls in and asks why Ant is only telling stories that paint black people in a bad light, and Anthony just calmly says that those were the only interactions he had with black people as a kid. I guarantee you that same comment today would lead to Anthony screaming "BLACKS WHITE GUILT LIBERAL AL SHARPTON CULTURAL PROBLEMS SAVAGES FBI STATISTICS OPEN AND HONEST DISCUSSION" for atleast 20 minutes.

Edit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=1qj-fr0Ignk#t=1689

Thats the white power music clip...

I'm a youtube listener. I don't have the benefit of the early history.

Don't forget his fetish for fucking children.

Lol. Ya...fuck him for making me have to work for my kids' future.

My argument is about how lavishly rewarded he is for doing very little.

Thats the breaks. Taking money from him won't make anyone richer.

That doesn't have to be the breaks. We could stop rewarding people for bullshit and spread it out more equally and based on merit.

Nope. How about we take the hit that asshats can make more money instead of screwing with socialism? Im sorry rock stars and athletes make more than teachers but thats where people seem to want to spend their money. Until you can keep people from being selfish it wont work

How about you leave the economics to the economists.

And you're arguing in favor of Amy Schumer now. She's what they want, give her the money.

Well... i DID take economics...

Really? How did your souffle come out, faggot?

Aw... Youre cute

I'd like to be on the Merit Board that determines who deserves what.

we determine what they should be payed. What do you think Ant and Opie should have been payed based on what they did?

My point is that I'm not qualified to determine how much anyone should be rewarded. I don't have any divine insight into the human soul to determine exactly how much talent, industriousness, and general goodness exists within someone, and I doubt anyone else does. So, in the absence of an infallible god-king who knows precisely what all people deserve, I feel like it should be up to individuals to pay others what their labor is worth to them based on mutual agreement.

Yeah, but I am qualified, so relax. I see how the world works and determine that some things are vital or essential and some others, not-so-much. I also am able to assess how arduous a job is vs how easy or fun it is and adjust my value judgment accordingly. The point is, if the market is constantly manipulated and I can't imagine any serious person arguing that it's not, then why would you respect the markets dictates. That's the same as respecting the wishes of the Ad Agency or the boardroom. "They know what's best, look at how much money they make." It just rolls on like that over and over until everybody is living in tent cities.

Lol go farm potatoes you commie faggot

After you say anything funny or worthwhile, not just bitchy, I will do that. Promise.

It actually will make everyone richer.

your argument is shit.

your reply is shit

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The free market gave us Oprah. She is obviously the most valuable human based on your metric. Suck my dick you simpleton! You don't even believe this shit you're fucking about.

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What races were given favored status in the Soviet Union? I forget which ones were promoted, could you remind me? I haven't studied history or economics as much as you or Anthony.

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Jews take care of their own affirmative action. Has nothing to do with politics or economics. Jews have different rules for Jews. Don't mistake me, I'm all in with the Jew hate.

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I've read Capital and yeah he's a jew. So is Bernie Madoff. Where's the connection?

Plus, the idea that labor is wealth. Is there something wrong with that? Should it be gold? What the fuck can you do with gold that makes it the best element?

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Because the Jews consider black people to be their little wooley-headed purse dogs.

I'm saying Jews can do good things or bad things individually. But get a bunch of them together . . . that makes it more efficient when you gas them.

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Socialism works in the Army. Always has. How did they do in WW2?

And what the fuck? Cultural Marxism? Who the fuck supports that? Not me.

Edit: sorry, got to get this out. It's corporations that are the source of the PC police. The constitution guarantees that we can not be jailed by the state for our speech. It's corporations bowing to lawyers and public perception that will fire you for what you say. Not socialist institutions, corporate capitalist institutions are policing speech. Nobody else.

2nd edit: Really? I make the funniest Jew joke I've ever made and it gets zero acknowledgment? Thanks a lot dude.

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I just can't argue with you dude. I'm too bummed out that my joke just flew by you. I get nothing out of this exchange.

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That's exactly what I want. I didn't lose shit, culture warrior. I take time out to laugh now and again, that's not losing, that's enjoying life.

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Honestly, you're fighting a monster that's not really here. And you're brandishing a butter knife. You should use that thing to spread some jam on your toast and let the adults debate economic philosophy.

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You are arguing with someone who is legit mentally ill.

I know but as it goes on for longer and longer it gets progressively funnier to me. I have odd tastes.

Beat you to death with a bar of it.

That could be said of many elements. Try harder.

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...Why, exactly, can't your kids work for their futures? Isn't that everyone's role? To work for themselves? You seem to think that everyone should need to have the wealth of their parents to survive on, on top of working themselves.

Not if your 9 years old

'your'

Hi Hillary.

Hi Hilter.

You forgot the "EL"

Hai Mark

You're lying! I never choked you!

You are tearing me apart, Dani!

It's not true, don't believe it!

Salute me properly you fucking pig dog!

Sorry, my wife got into my account.

Bravo sir.

He is a right wing shill though, I agree with your post.

Bro, take the "L". Delete the thread and save yourself the beating this place is going to give you for having a different opinion.

That is what little pussy-ass faggots do. That and down-voting. Observe.

Bad ass!

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I'll pay for your kids' education if they'll suck my peckah.

Idiots like you are hilarious. Why would someone like Ant have political views that go against his own self interest? It's the same as how you uppity democrats get pissy about Ant constantly defending the police when we know he gets PBA cards and is on good terms with cops in general. Why wouldn't someone in that position be a cop apologist?

Because the role of government is to control and curtail people acting in their own self-interest to the detriment of others or society as a whole. There, I just explained the concept of law to you, you sniveling little cocksucker. Go out and formulate opinions with fresh eyes, faggot.

We're not talking about law (which even then you're wrong), we're talking about Ant's political views. I've accurately explained his mindset as well as the mindset of anyone who votes in this country. In general, people vote or take positions on things that benefit them most. Even here, you're taking a position that would give you an advantage, right?

Not at all. Financially it does nothing for me since I get no subsidy of any kind from the government, nor do I make enough money to be hurt by higher taxes. I would benefit from the government spending money to fund projects that contribute to scientific advancement and infrastructure the same way that everyone benefits. Not my advantage, everyone's advantage. The law is there to prevent you harming your neighbor. I think the singular pursuit of profit at all costs hurts me and everyone else. That's my rationale.

It doesn't hurt everyone though. Ant and those like him are doing just fine. You keep babbling on about yourself and not addressing the real issue. Typical of a democrat. Why should Anthony care about your (or anyone's) struggling children? From HIS perspective.

Because he lives in America. The problem with you is that you never earned your brain. You gobbled up some thoughts that an educated person wrote. They were targeting you. Its common knowledge that there is a large population of uneducated people who envy people who participate in political debates. So they published some Cliffs notes for you. That doesn't make you a student of the human condition, it makes you a recipient of intellectual welfare. If you had arrived at this discussion bearing an education in the classics you might have some time under your belt spent reflecting on the human condition. Instead you need simple concepts that are generally agreed upon explained to you like a little kid who comes in to watch a movie half-way through. You are not qualified to discuss these sort of issues. Learn your place.

0/10. You got too greedy and are now trying too hard. I do give you credit for using not one, but two logical fallacies in one post. And you still aren't addressing the issue. As is typical of your side of the political spectrum, you don't even know what your arguing for anymore and just want to be heard. I feel sorry for you, but one day you'll grow up.

That it's not in his interest? That's the fundamental issue? You're asking me to validate the fundamental law of capitalism? That people acting in their own best interest is to the betterment of society. Wow. You schooled me. How about you examine what a person construes as his best interests and find out that he's wrong? Maybe an economic actor can be misreading what is in their best interests. Sometimes at the blackjack table. You really try my fucking patience, kid.

You have yet to rebuke anything I've said. Now you're resorting to the same parroting nonsense you've been accusing others of doing. The only reason you're becoming impatient is because you've got nothing and you know it, boy. I've completely deconstructed you.

I rebuke you as a human being. I haven't refuted anything you've said because I can't quite find a point in any of it. That it's not in his best interest seems to be the thing you're harping on. Is that a profound point and I'm missing it? Maybe you could reword it so I have a better understanding of this point you claim to have made.

If that was it then you missed me. You're aiming at the horizon and wondering why I don't fall down.

Compared to anything you've said? Yes, I am being pretty fucking profound. You're the beta male liberal who's been making superficial non points in an impotent attempt to seem intellectual. Don't blame us for seeing through you're nonsense.

I could beat you to death before you finished pissing your pants. Try me. Where do you live? We can meet equidistant from our two locations and fight. We can make a video for reddit and everyone could see a troll fight. It would be sensational. We'd make money. And you would have an opportunity to own that bad-ass attitude of yours. What do you say fella? Let's fight.

Once again. You're trying too hard. Stop trying to be a character on this sub. It's never going to catch on. Kinda like socialism in the US. Thankfully.

You just backed out of a fight with a man that you're cat-calling with your beta-male bullshit.

Once in Key West, I saw this kid get called on some shit by a total stranger and immediately back down in terror. Nobody appreciated the nobleness of his restraint. Hours later I remember him repeating over and over, and here is what sticks in my memory is that he had terribly sun burned and chapped lips which made this all the more pathetic, anyway he kept repeating "I shoulda just decked 'im!"

1-800-985-5990 Live it, Learn it

So you've quickly given up on the faux intellectual schtick and are now going for the internet tough guy angle? Is that the bit?

No, I just know how frightened you are and that even an anonymous internet challenge to a fight on a message board must bring up a bunch of issues for you to obsess over for the rest of the day. Enjoy.

3 hours and that's the best response you could muster? Pathetic.

You await my every word with baited breath. That would be flattering if you weren't a desperate scumbag on a message board dedicated to a defunct radio show.

I'm not the one who's desperate for attention. Your transparent projecting of your own insecurities is embarrassing for everyone around you.

You're the one hanging around in the men's room. I went out for lunch.

If it was so easy then why don't you do it? And he's just a right-wing guy. I'm not personally myself but half the country is so if youre gonna let yourself be offended by them youre not gonna have a very happy life. I'm sure right wing rich people would be more sympathetic if it werent for people saying faggoty things like " the lamentable scions of human husbandry in America" to them.

I don't do it because it doesn't make sense. Why is one dude who can do what thousands can do elevated to such a high income?

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Bullshit. O&A got rich because clear channel wanted an answer for Howard. That's how a fuck-ton of shitty DJs got paid in the late 90's, just ammunition to take on Howard.

you dont make a lot of money in entertainment because it doesnt make sense? you should really reconsider that. They can make a company millions of dollars and in turn they earn some of it. There are a LOT less people that could do what they did than people who can put shingles on a roof and the pay is going to reflect that whether you cry about it being unfair or not.

You had to make this adversarial. OK shit eater, There are only two people who could do that job? Sitting around bullshitting? Maybe wherever you are allowed to work there are soft edges everywhere and they stop you from fucking with outlets but everywhere I've worked there were plenty of people around as funny as Ant is. If that was their job they might be even funnier. Their pay reflects a fucked up barter system where value is misplaced. The mortgage crisis happened because people called shit gold and then discovered it was shit. But here I am trying to make sense to a fucking wet-brain.

this is obviously a fake account so I stopped reading after the first few sentences but sure, a lot of people out there are funny, but they didnt start something that enough people paid to listen to that it generated millions of dollars. Even if you could sub him out for someone that worked with you at Home Depot, he got there first, and got the listeners which made him the money so there was no need to. There will never be a person that vetoes if a person is the only one in entertainment worth earning money or if they should go out scouting for a blue collar replacement so you might as well just give up being offended by it.

There will never be a person that vetoes if a person is the only one in entertainment worth earning money or if they should go out scouting for a blue collar replacement so you might as well just give up being offended by it.

Did you just have a seizure? My fake account and I are concerned about you.

I'm sorry if you think youre the funniest employee at the job site but unless you put yourself in a position to make money from it like Anthony did even the most liberal governments arent going to step in and make sure everything is fair and youre paid accordingly for it. Getting listeners gets you paid, Ant didnt invent that business model and no matter how offended you are you arent going to stop it.

I'm not going to stop it. We are. We're already stopping it by listening to more podcasts and going elsewhere for our entertainment. That's the whole point. We've already started determining what is valuable, not so back when terrestrial radio was paying O&A to stay off the air.

Your free market pays people to not do a thing they are good at. Go ahead and respect it now.

Lol yeah Ant's done and the free market isn't doing shit for him nowadays its just whatever fat weirdo fanboys that are left paying for his podcast. I don't think you can deny that he earned the career that he had whether you felt he was paid fairly or not but its gone now.

He's absolutely earned a nice chunk of change and rightly so considering what Howard got. But it never should have been like that. The culture of celebrity and the resulting money is from Network execs manipulating pop culture at the request of Ad execs. It never would have formed that way naturally and we'll see that as it continues to break down in the face of the internet which is closer to real capitalism. Ant can't handle REAL capitalism and TACS is all the proof I need.

and then thinks our kids should struggle to get educated

What the fuck are you talking about?

You really couldn't make sense of my comment? or is your question what you consider a witty insult? Is it all you have the energy for?

I specifically was referring to the part I quoted. Why are your children struggling to be educated?

I have no children. That's a device to refer to things the government can spend tax dollars on(a poorly chosen one). I'd prefer if it were water, super-trains and space-travel. All liberal arts education can occur online very cheaply teachers are only required for socialization and discipline.

You fucking libtards are hilarious.

Harry Hater??

Aw... Youre cute

Bad ass!

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We're not talking about law (which even then you're wrong), we're talking about Ant's political views. I've accurately explained his mindset as well as the mindset of anyone who votes in this country. In general, people vote or take positions on things that benefit them most. Even here, you're taking a position that would give you an advantage, right?

Lol go farm potatoes you commie faggot

Beat you to death with a bar of it.

That could be said of many elements. Try harder.