The fact that you thought we would read your Bernie-rant on this sub shows what a commie loving, Trotskite faggot you really are.

Filthy foreigner reporting in: so /u/ApeNia and /u/maynardsabeast are the same user right? They pretty much made the same thread in less than 20 minutes https://www.reddit.com/r/opieandanthony/comments/44kzu0/do_you_guys_think_bernie_sanders_would_support/

https://www.reddit.com/r/opieandanthony/comments/44ko6u/why_is_ant_so_antibernie_only_rich_people_need_to/

and Apenia is a new user.

no /u/AlimonyKills is /u/ApeNia

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shut it dope. Nobody cares what you "think"

you're a real hero

I guess so. Thanks for stepping up

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No, the point is I would never ever read a political rant on this sub.A 20 line paragraph of nonsense. I wouldn't waste my time. Go be an "intellect" on some upstanding douchey forum.

Hey ass clown, this wasnt about politics. he was making fun of ant for making 17 k a year now.

We're all dumb, except for you

I'm starting to think you really believe that. You are very slightly above Ben72 in level of intellect, for all I know you're him. You address this place as if you're speaking to one person and then act like you bested them. Cave your head in with dumbbells

Cool. Go put weights up your butthole

You could tell by the title he was just calling Ant broke and it was pretty obvious. Not sure how you didnt catch that

Obama is on the way out, so Bernie is the new liberal boogeyman.

I don't know if you got Marc Maron's memo, but this is a Pro Trump sub.

We're very high energy here.

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That's the joke, you cunt

That would be insane if it's Bernie Vs trump. Will never happen though

It really is insane, I don't think trump expected anything but a publicity stunt but now, fuck it I'm gonna win this shit

I don't support Trump in anyway but he should have been the winner in Iowa. Ted Cruz stole votes from Ben Carson by telling his supporters that Carson dropped out the night before. That could have been Cruz's margin of victory over Trunp.

Also he had the most efficient campaign. He spent 10 times less than Cruz

Did you actually think Ant would have a logical reason for his Bernie hate? It's simple: Guns, no tax, and domestic violence. THat's why he stands with Trump

Ant H is just the little guy, with a giant mansion and a personal bodyguard/cumtissuepickeruper

his house technically isn't even a mansion, its a large house. They broke it down on an old LOS episode. Its roughly half the size of a Mansion.

cumtissuepickeruper

Hilarious

Why don't you worry about Syria, sandnigger.

You really want attention this much?

If that was the case I would have just drawn Muhammed fucking his camel.

Why would that bother me?

Never said it would. I just meant attention from Dune Coons in general.

;)

Why don't you make 50 more submissions with sarcastic content instead, you fucking shitposting faggot.

Why don't you go blow yourself up, you stinky camelfucker.

Ooof the attention fishing must be really biting today, here I am replying again, you feel less lonely yet? How about a hug? Maybe a handjob to get you going?

Is this true? Are you really fucking camels?

only on weekends

As long as it isn't the hand you wipe your ass with.

How about a bring a black person into the mix and he can watch us just go at it, then we dress him up as a slavemaster so he can whip us while we pick cotton. You game for that?

Would you castrate him afterwards? I know the Arabs did that with their black slaves.

Good thinking tbh.

But I want beautiful mullato babies, so we can't do that, you know those racially superior babies Bill and Nia is making

Lol...oh no...that really stung me. Lol! You simple fuck. I couldn't care less if people are foolish enough to regress toward the mean.

I just like pointing it out.

Think about Bill's future black/Irish kid, all that proud Irish ancestry mixed in with her African heritage. It's a beautiful thing, a miracle of life

Like I said...a regression toward the mean. Maybe one day every country will be like Brazil....wait....aren't they the murder capital of the world?

Makes sense.

Not according to these statistics

I think you posted a picture from your Spank Bank folder by accident.

All those in favor of Sanders are morons. They want free shit and can't comprehend that if you tax the wealthy most of their income, they'll just do business elsewhere and hire less people. What he wants to do is impossible. Get a job and stop looking for handouts.

Hey libtard millennial, explain what was incorrect there?

They do business elsewhere now. That's why you can't call a support without talking to some Indian dude.

Yeah and if you think that won't get worse under a communist, you're wrong

He reminds him of his neighbours.

Limited govt. minimizes the power of bureaucracy. Bureaucracy is a system of control through the dilution of blame and responsibility.

Limited regulation on Wall Street doesn't make you any freer. Having giant banks that have no real competition actually limits your freedom in the market. Those banks should be broken up and the consumer should get to choose who they want to do business with. This idea that capitalism/limited government should mean that giant banks control everything is just shifting the authority from government to banks (the difference being with government at least we have the perception of a choice in who we send to represent us)... then when they banks collapse the middle class has to pay to bail them out while the CEOs and board members continue to take multi-million dollar bonuses.... all the while the Republicans will tell you that regulating Wall Street will somehow hurt you more than letting them control the entire country does...

is that Karl Marx quote?

Nope... that's a "person with a brain who learns from mistakes" quote. You don't have to be a member of any particular ideology to understand that allowing a monopoly of bank control isn't a good thing.

well for example bailing out failed banks was totally socialistic thing to do (and i dont care if conservatives or liberals did it).. capitalist thing to do would be to let them fail

I agree that those banks should have failed. We propped them up which was dumb.. not only did we prop them up to allow them to survive but we enabled them to combine so now we have a handful of major banks who control everything. That is the worst case scenario. We let that happen. Why? Because the major candidates who run for president are funded by the same banks that got propped up.. imagine that.

How can "a handful of major banks" hold a monopoly on anything. There is more than one bank fucktard. Stop watching youtube "documentaries" and take a fucking economics class. Morons like you are the cause of, and solution to, any financial crisis. "We" didn't let anything happen, you didn't have any part in the dealings whatsoever. That is why we still have our first world lives. Would you like to live in a nation with a failed currency? The good people of Zimbabwe would love to have your brilliant financial strategies available to them.

I didn't invent a financial strategy.. Economists did. And I took plenty of economics courses.. I was a business major. When the major banks combined after the recession they became "too big to fail." They have so much control of our economy we literally can't let them go bankrupt. We have to pay for their losses when they are as big as they are or our entire economy tanks. Tell me how that is good for the average American, retard? Even Trump (who I assume you love cause he's not a Cuck) recognizes this.

What seems to have failed here is our educational system. For someone as clueless as yourself to be given a business degree is a fucking travesty.

Explain where anything I said is wrong. What happens if JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup, Bank of America or Goldman Sachs tank like Lehman Brothers did to kick off the recession? Do we let them go bankrupt or do they get a trillion dollar bailout because our entire economy will go into a depression if they aren't bailed out? When you have 4 banks that have the majority of the country's money tied up into them they literally can't be left to go bankrupt. Don't worry though, your boy Donald Trump wants to put a hefty tax on Wall Street so hopefully that'll make them less reckless with their investments and lending.

Everything you said was wrong. there is not enough time to explain all the reasons why. Why would you think the largest financial institutions would not be able to influence financial decisions? Who else would? Do you really want the government to have control over anything that requires the complexity of the world economy to be understood? Do you think some random asshole congressman from Arkansas should have a say in market regulations? What the fuck does he know about derivatives? Not one thing that these institutions do is reckless. Every single transaction they make is calculated and evaluated by extremely smart people who dedicate their lives to keeping those markets healthy and open. Not one thing they do is secret or conspiratorial. Every trade they make is public and it takes years to fully invest into a position of leverage.

It is not possible to have a continually stable economy when human decisions are its basis. Every 20 or 30 years something is going to break. It has happened for centuries and is going to happen as long as humans exist. The next crisis will be triggered when the fixes of the last one become obsolete. Nobody can stop this. Your choices are to let the banks do what they do, or trust the public to make decisions that they have no idea how to make. Countries that let the public have influence on their economic policy are the ones that are soon overtaken by ones that don't. We are American. Whatever our economic decision makers do is correct. If they were wrong we would not have our standard of living, which no matter what you think is wrong with it, is better than anywhere else.

"We are American. Whatever our economic decision makers do is correct." That might be the single dumbest thing I ever saw. Are you brainwashed? When they were giving mortgages out to people who couldn't afford them knowing full well it would collapse the housing market and in turn possibly cause a depression was that "correct?" It was a way for the banks to show a ton of money on paper so it was good for them... Terrible for the country. But you just keep thinking the bankers are looking out for you...

Are you fucking retarded? I am asking that in all seriousness. Are you a person of special needs?

Do you understand the concept of expansion? People could not live in cramped inner cities any longer, we needed to entice them to move into new areas with better opportunities for life. After WW2 we started building nazi autobahns aka expressways so that people could live in better conditions in the suburbs. When people started leaving the inner cities it left many of them into urban blight. As a new generation of people grew up in safer less densely populated areas they became accustomed to the standards that the rapidly growing technology allowed them to live. When those people grew up they solidified the new areas their parents had moved to and strived to improve their lives over their parents. This meant more commerce and more demand for innovation. When new centers of business opened up, people moved there leaving their former homes in need of new owners. Do I need to keep going with this? People move around a lot, there will always be demand for housing and people risking their lives to improve their housing situation is the entire reason most of us are here in America in the first place. The amount of available capital because of those mortgages built everything you have ever used. Your computer, the internet, cable systems, phone lines, satellites all are here because people were able to live safely in their American homes. Sure it eventually blew up, but don't ever discount all the good that it allowed when it was working. What will the next crisis be? I don't know, but I guarantee it is something that we today feel is not a problem.

Were there scumbag loan officers? Yes. There were scumbag mortgage brokers and predatory lenders that are complete pieces of shit. but there are always going to be a group of assholes that ruin things. But don't think that the damage they did is in any way comparable to the good their more reputable colleagues did for millions of people for years and years.

I'm not talking about the good expansion... I'm talking about the knowingly illegal predatory lending followed by the short-selling of garbage stocks, junk bonds and debts while they knew it would result in a collapse. They were allowed to grant mortgages to people who couldn't afford it at astoundingly high interest rates because we didn't regulate what they were doing.. Then, those same banks could use the money they were showing on their books for speculative investing and risk the holdings of everyone dealing with the bank...We said "duh.. We're America!! Our economic decision makers do all the right things!" And they didn't.. And now somehow you are trying to tie this to people moving out of inner cities after the war at the time when the tax rates were 90% and Glass-Steagel was in act because of the depression so commercial banks couldn't partake in speculative investing... Yeah.. Back then things did work well for a while... That has nothing to do with the predatory lending that occurred after the repeal of most of Glass-Steagel in 1999. We unhooked the banks so they could pretty much do whatever they wanted and within 8 years they tanked our economy.

This wasn't a few rogue mortgage brokers... This was a systematic failure from dozens of large banks in Wall Street... They KNEW what they were doing. They admitted that they knew it. We are pussies and instead of throwing them in jail like we did to Bernie Madoff (because they were essentially doing what he did.. Gambling away people's retirement funds to show high earnings on paper) we gave them a trillion dollars to rebuild and get bigger.. They took multi-million dollar bonuses with that money and fired a ton of people to justify their bonuses. Yeah.. They do the right thing. The bankers who did the same thing in Iceland are currently in prison because what they were doing was fraud.

Ok, seriously, you need to stop with the 'we' shit. You didn't do anything.

So you are saying that because of the Glass-Steagall Act (which you spelled two different ways, both of which were incorrect) being repealed it allowed 'the banks' to do whatever they wanted. That sounds like a governmental problem, not a corporate one. If you owned a business and there were no regulations on what that business could do, you would do whatever it took to make that business successful. There is a very definitive line between being a criminal and just being a huge dickhead. Those people who took advantage of the lack of oversight were huge dickheads. Unfortunately, being a huge dickhead is not a crime. Bernie Madoff was a con man running a Ponzi scheme. The housing bubble was not a Ponzi scheme. There were millions of honest people involved in the market who committed no crimes. Of course the banks knew what they were doing, how else would they do it? It wasn't fucking illegal!!! The fact that you used the word gambling when referring to financial markets shows you have absolutely no clue how they work. They didn't 'gamble away anyone's retirement funds to show high earnings on paper' that doesn't even make any fucking sense. Would you rather have the entire financial sector fail? Do you really think that would be a wise decision? You don't think the 2016 in that timeline would be a bit worse than our real 2016? I prefer to not think about a world where the United States goes into full scale 3rd world economic freefall. No one would even have Ipads!!!

Iceland? You think this is like Iceland? Get the fuckin boat mate. First off, Iceland's economy was built nearly overnight and based almost entirely on banking. It doesn't take much detective work to see how that happened. If you want to do what Iceland did you would have to prosecute millions of people who did nothing they thought was illegal. Good luck with that. Go after the entertainment industry for promoting unrealistic depictions of 'average' life. Go after the advertizing agencies for selling the idea of new homes and all the products that go in them. Go after the technology moguls for introducing new gadgets that people want to buy without paying for essentials first. Go after the legal system for not holding people accountable for their debts. Get real here. This was 100% a failure of governmental policy and oversight. They allowed everything to happen just as it did.

Like I said before, EVENTUALLY SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS!!! There is no possible way to stop a large market correction every 20 or so years. Things can't just continue to grow without pullbacks. Life does not go forward all the time, sometimes a couple steps backwards are needed to go forward. Markets can not go up and up and up without coming back so people can catch up to it.

Please, go and read up on some real market history. You will find situations exactly like this throughout history. I think if you can look at this from a perspective of societal evolution it will make much more sense.

"We" as in America, you dipshit. We are in a war right now. I, personally, am not a soldier in Afghanistan but I am part of the country at war. I think you understand what I mean when I say "we."

And the repeal of Glass-Steagall is a corporate problem because the banks paid the politicians to repeal the major parts of Glass-Steagall which would allow commercial banks to participate in speculation investments. And it is "gambling" or else nobody would ever lose any money. Talk to some people on Wall Street and ask them about derivatives. They are horseshit equations that literally mean nothing. The economy rises and falls based 100% on the public perception of the Market. There is no sure "smart" investment without insider information. If speculation investing wasn't "gambling" it wouldn't be speculative... it would simply be profit growth and everyone would be a millionaire.

The Housing Market literally did turn into a Ponzi scheme.... the banks were giving giant loans to people who couldn't afford them and then selling off those accounts receivable to other banks while knowing that the loans would never be paid back. If a person owed me $100,000 but with the interest it was worth 500k over 15 years and I know this person wasn't ever going to pay me back because he couldn't afford it (I know he couldn't because I looked at his financials before granting him the loan) I now turn around and sell his mortgage to another bank and tell them "I'll unload this to you for 200k and you will make 300k on the deal when his mortgage is paid off" I now just knowingly unloaded a junk mortgage on somebody else. Now they are going to get fucked because I defrauded them by presenting that mortgage as an account-receivable even though I know that money is never coming in. That is illegal. That is what these banks were doing that destroyed the housing market and brought down entire banks along with it. Why were they doing this? Because we stopped regulating them. And, on paper, all of these accounts-receivable (even though that's money nobody will ever see and you know that because you looked at the financials of the people you are giving loans to) makes your business look more profitable than it is. The balance sheet is skewed in your favor with false accounts-receivable. Now you are getting people to invest in you based on fake numbers. Just like a Ponzi Scheme... And you take the money being invested in you based on your fake numbers and you invest in other bullshit. If these banks weren't doing that the recession would not have happened... this wasn't the natural ebbs and flows of the market.... this was a man-made recession. And, again, this wasn't on a small scale with a "few dickheads"... Everyone was doing this and they were all aware of what they were doing.

And you want these people to go about their business unchecked when you, yourself, admit that they are only going to do whatever they can to increase their own profits even if it means fucking over everyone in the country?

That was fucking exhausting to read. I can't imagine how hard it must be for you to go about your daily life. Thank you for giving me a synopsis of beginner accounting and common lending procedures. You must be insanely wealthy because all of that knowledge.

It is hilarious that you fault the banks for offering loans and not the people who took them. Who is really the one in the wrong here? The person who offered to lend you money, or the person who took the money knowing there was no way it was going to be paid back. Banks didn't force people into taking loans that they couldn't repay. That is a really fucking stupid business model. You are acting like they were forced to give money to anyone that asked for it. I'm going to set up a loan office and give my startup capital to a bunch of homeless guys, they said they would pay me back tomorrow! If you take out a loan you are responsible for the re-payment of the loan. That is why it is called a loan and not giving you money. The lack of any sort of personal responsibility you place on the people taking the money is astounding. You are 100% right, this was a man made recession. 100% made by retards that thought banks were giving them money without any return.

Do you think a 1-1 financial model could possibly allow us to have an advanced society? If you don't have interest additions and fractional reserve policies nobody would ever be exchanging their money and commerce could not exist. Nothing was done illegally. None of this was fake numbers or made up bullshit. It was all real money being exchanged in real financial exchanges. Do you think there is a bank with a billion nickels sitting in a giant vault?

I really don't get what you are trying to say with all of this. I know there was a housing bubble. I know how it happened. I know why it happened. I don't need you to tell me that 9 years ago there was a market crash. I was fucking there. I watched the ticker numbers plummet so fast that nobody believed they were real. I saw the empty trading offices the next day.

You offer no new solutions to preventing the next one. Anyone can point blame at the people who have already taken the blame. The public is not going to point fingers at themselves even though they are the ones responsible.

The people who took the loans were idiots too but they were being advised by the banks that they could afford the loans while the banks knew they couldn't. Why was this smart for banks to lend money that they knew couldn't be paid back? Because they didn't plan on getting paid back... they planned on selling the accounts-receivable to other banks who could now show these accounts-receivable on their books as assets and falsely inflate their value. The whole thing was a scam. The bankers told people they could afford loans they couldn't, they then sold the mortgages for a profit to places that needed to show value and then waited for the whole thing to collapse eventually. AKA: A Ponzi scheme....

Again... everyone who did this knew exactly what he would lead to... you think these are the kinds of people who should be left unregulated? Let them just do what they want.... There's no way they'll tank the economy in an effort to increase their own personal bottom lines...

I'm not doing this any longer. All you are doing is repeatedly spouting off the same nonsense. It has just dawned on me that you are far too emotionally invested in this subject to view it rationally. Perhaps one day you will realize that there are very logical and reasonable explanations for everything and they don't require these ridiculous leaps to make them happen. Life is mostly gray, very few things are black and white.

I admire your passion for the subject. If you would put as much time into researching market history and trends as you do this horseshit you would be able to make a very nice life for yourself.

I have made a very nice life for myself... And, again, I didn't invent this theory of what happened.. It is the consensus. The senate hearings where the Wall Street execs flew in for questioning and pled the 5th to everything proved that they knowingly and willingly participated in fraudulent book keeping and predatory lending. There was no reasonable explanation for it aside from the fact that business men will make themselves money any way they can. You, yourself, know this. You are invested in unregulated Wall Street and this idea that free markets are inherently

What they did by pleading the 5th was saying fuck off Senate, I'm not giving you any chance to pin your self-inflicted bullshit on me.

Again, you are being obstinate and stubborn into accepting reality. There is no reason to even discuss this subject. This happened in 2007 because an Act was repealed in 1999. It is 2016. The market, if you haven't noticed, bottomed out 7 years ago.

Please tell me when the next crash will occur and why. I am far more interested in that.

Self-inflicted? You saying that because they didn't regulate the banks it was the government's own fault? Basically like a "this is what happens when the prisoners run the prison" sort of defense?

http://www.profitconfidential.com/economic-analysis/upcoming-stock-market-crash/

Just when I was thinking that maybe you were only a dumb kid and not a completely retarded person you go and drop something like that. I feel so stupid for being roped into this conversation. Bye.

You understand that places like Goldman Sachs were found criminally liable and reached a 5 billion dollar settlement for their criminal behavior, right? Why do you refuse to acknowledge they were knowingly responsible for the collapse when the whole world is aware of it? Keep your head buried in the sand. The banks are your friend.

Its because poor people aka black people are now going to be able to get healthcare and go to public university.

Didn't the world already realize that communism doesn't work?

sadly not

Ughh. You repeated yourself like 20 times to make a shitty stupid point.

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bernie sucks donkey balls

well if you failed to recognize that by listening to Bernies empty marxist phrases then... well I guess.. you are welcome

but seriously folks who are you voting for Hillary or Rubio?

Ted Cruz looks like a guy that sucks black men's cum out of his wife asshole

So this sub is def voting Cruz!

Ted Cruz looks like a guy that sucks black men's cum out of his wife asshole

I like a politician who shares my passions

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Does it really make a difference who gets elected? I've lived long enough to see plenty of presidents come and go, and nothing ever seems to change, regardless of the party in control of the White House.

Seems to me that the corporations bought the country a long time ago, and they're always going to get a return on their campaign investment dollars.

Same ol' shit, different presidential term.

Oh, maynard...just shut up. Asshole.

Lmao. Nobody got OP's joke.

I thought i educated you properly yesterday but i see you still haven't learned the error of your ways. So sad.

You were making a Schumer fisted insinuation that Ant is poor now and Opie is super rich.I got it immediately. I was trying to ignore it in-order to spare your feelings and remind you how a taught you proper economics concerning the minimum wage. .

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Do you ever have a comment that is not downvoted to the pay-no-mind-threshold?

You think niggers and crime are bad now. God help us if that jew is elected. Tits will be happy to dish out more money and the poverty scum will get more free shit, while the "regular joes" will get fucked. You liberal nigger/fag lovers are beyond pathetic.

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And you're such a nigger loving faggot on reedit. Bet your going to watch the super bowl with all those big niggers running into each other like dumb apes with your faggity friends, drinking some hip over-priced beer while you have some hiphop playing mid volume in the background, meanwhile your cunt wife is getting pounded by your nigger friend you hang with to show your not racist and gives you some street cred, bet you drive around and see a black guy on the street and roll down your window and turn some rap music up and wait for him to look over at you and give you the head nod...like yeah Im hip to this shit mah mann...you fucking punk

Whoa this guy don't give a care!

lol how old are you

You don't sound angry & bitter at all.