"but you're still moving it" - the line that will lose Ant the court case

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Pseudo lawyer bullshit moving on

Go watch the video again: she never says "you" broke my hand. She just says my hand is broken.

Which falls in line with my theory: bitch tried to punch the rock head of a dumb wop, succeds, breaks her hand because she doesnt know how to punch, pissy eyed wop restrains her (the goon arm if you will), drunk bitch filled with pain, rage and pure cuntiness calls cops and turns on periscope.

We all know Ant is a ghoul, but he just doest seem like the physically abusive type. Everything hes ever let us know about himself is he absolutely avoids confrontation and has shown restraint (4th of July pictures).

Good points. I'll add that broken ribs are very often the result of a fall.

Any half competent lawyer could easily spin it as him making the point she's talking shit.

get back on your knees, do less typing

I don't get it.

Do you "Why didn't he deny it? HUH!?" people watch too many reality shows? Do all your conversations sound like children lying to each other? Talking to you must be like being interviewed by Opie.

She says her hand is broken. He responds to that, to her, to the actual moment happening in his life, like anybody who isn't playing to an audience would. It tells us nothing about what he did or didn't do, except that he doubts it resulted in a broken hand that she doesn't appear to him to have. He denies the thing she just fucking said, not the overall story, because he's not thinking about that. He's having a real-time, real-life conversation.

I'll give you this: No matter what Anthony did, if that video is part of the evidence, his lawyer should forgo a jury trial. That box will be full of TV-addled morons like you.

That and karaoke sweetie are the 2 worst looking parts for ant.

It really doesn't look good and the crazed fans on his side jumping through hoops to explain how those lines actually imply innocence just makes it worse.

Doesn't prove anything

Yeah I've been saying this all along... His defense is going to end up being that it was self-defense. She was actually the one attacking him and all of her injuries came while he was trying to restrain her in order to protect himself.

You're incorrect with this assumption. Here's my prediction: Ant will claim that Dani physically attacked him and in the process of defending himself she sustained some injuries. When a woman is beating on you, the first thing you do is grab her hand/wrist hence her "broken hand". Probably will say the same thing in relation to any possible rib injury--it was sustained in the ensuing tussle while trying to get her to stop hitting him.

More damning for Dani's credibility will be the self-slap and then remarking, "Don't hit me!" It makes her look like a liar even if she was assaulted. Remember, it's reasonable doubt, and in these DV cases it typically is he said/she said so the accused is usually found innocent. Some ppl plead guilty because they don't have the cashola to fight a long court case and also because if you plead guilty you'll generally get a lighter sentence.

The crux of the matter, at least at this stage, is what are the extent of Dani's injuries. If she has some minor bruises, it will be no big deal, but if she actually has broken bones, it will be very difficult for Ant's legal team to spin the self-defense angle.

The accused in domestic violence cases is usually found innocent? Where the fuck are you getting this from? I believe it's quite the opposite

While the police have to arrest someone when they go to a DV call (unless it's a prank) that doesn't mean the accused is guilty. It's true that the overwhelming majority of DV cases don't go to trial, but when they do and it's a he said/she said situation, the accused is found innocent. Regular Joe's rarely get this far because of the cost and the risk. For example, if this case goes to trial (which I don't think it will) Ant will be found innocent. I'm almost certain of that. The only thing it hinges on are the severity of Dani's injuries. Maybe I shouldn't have written 'innocent' and written 'not guilty' instead.

This data is from San Francisco Public Defender's Office:

48 percent of all trials resulting in no conviction, compared to 46.5 percent in 2009 and 38.5 percent in 2008. Approximately 700 felony cases dismissed due to the crime lab scandal. 70 percent of homicide trials resulting in acquittals, hung juries or mixed verdicts. 71 percent of domestic violence trials resulting in acquittals, hung juries or mixed verdicts.

The bottom line is it's very difficult to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt if it's your word against mine and there are no witnesses or other corroborating evidence.

San Francisco

I wish I could see that cc camera footage.

Reddit, lawyers you ain't

Ant will do a minimum of 6 months.

leave it alone

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Unless it happened during a mutual physical exchange, which is going to be Ant's excuse on all of the charges anyways.

The old Zimmerman defense--he knows it well.

He hit a lippy bitch he didn't murder her. He'll be just fine.

Make me a sammich toots

No, he was proving her hand wasn't broken. It's clear on the video it's not.

Are you an 18 year old girl?

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While the police have to arrest someone when they go to a DV call (unless it's a prank) that doesn't mean the accused is guilty. It's true that the overwhelming majority of DV cases don't go to trial, but when they do and it's a he said/she said situation, the accused is found innocent. Regular Joe's rarely get this far because of the cost and the risk. For example, if this case goes to trial (which I don't think it will) Ant will be found innocent. I'm almost certain of that. The only thing it hinges on are the severity of Dani's injuries. Maybe I shouldn't have written 'innocent' and written 'not guilty' instead.

This data is from San Francisco Public Defender's Office:

48 percent of all trials resulting in no conviction, compared to 46.5 percent in 2009 and 38.5 percent in 2008. Approximately 700 felony cases dismissed due to the crime lab scandal. 70 percent of homicide trials resulting in acquittals, hung juries or mixed verdicts. 71 percent of domestic violence trials resulting in acquittals, hung juries or mixed verdicts.

The bottom line is it's very difficult to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt if it's your word against mine and there are no witnesses or other corroborating evidence.