Ant and Jim don't seem to get it

42  2015-10-29 by bonecrushingkisses

They were discussing on TACS how confounded they are by the Stangel hate. They think we give the Stangels shit because we see them as Ant's replacement. So let's be clear, anyone associated with Tits or that piece of shit show shall be shat upon. Has nothing to do with anyone else. Tomorrow morning look across the console Jim, he is the problem.

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People here hate the Stangels (Justin specifically) because they add nothing of value to the show. Justin interrupts constantly with nothing interesting or funny to say. I have less of a problem with his brother, who seems like a poor mans Travis. They have become a laugh track for Opie, and boxed out fan favorites like E-Rock, Sam and Travis. What do they contribute exactly? I've never heard anything funny said by either of them, and it's not as if they are bringing in A-list guests into the studio. Fuck em. They somehow didn't understand the nature of the O+A fan base (even though I guess they have been fans for a long time!?), and they stink at radio. They don't work for Letterman anymore fellas, stop kissing their asses.

Tsss...what about Envelopeman or sumpthin

I must admit, I'm simply baffled by the Stangels because of what you mentioned. They bring less than nothing to the show. Justin mentioned during his little meltdown that they never wanted to be on air, that it was Opie that wanted them to be an on air presence. The Stangels probably thought when they signed on that they would be producing the show, and occasionally pipe up, not be the 3rd mic.

"What do they do exactly?" I honestly can't figure it out. Show prep? Structure? Feeding lines?

Can someone please tell me?

Just based on the in-studio videos, Eric seems to be the Google/research boy for the display monitors they have around the in studio. So when Tits goes "uUHHHH UHH AHHH WHO SUNG BALLROOM BLITZ?! AHH FAAAAKKKK UHH COME ON HELP ME NO WAIT DON'T TELL ME UHHH" or like the G Ron/Charlie Brown video, Eric will throw up the answer or someone's tweet so Oqie can bomb the joke.

He's not "feeding lines" so much as he's giving Tits something to say beyond his "cute" mispronunciation of words or purposefully singing a song like a mongoloid for LAFFS. Otherwise, all he would say all show is "Where are you at with _______?" "Wait, tell us about (the thing you just explained for five minutes)" etc.

Eric at least seems to do his job. Justin contributes like a feckless, pubescent, unpopular teenager but not a nerd who spends his time learning interesting things. No, he's the kid who embraces popular things about two months after the popular crowd has moved on from them.

I wish Justin would turn on opie. I hate that opie trashes people but if anyone says anything to him its watch it or leave it alone

Whatever it is, it's not worth waking up very early in the morning for. If they had any sense they could just work from home but they're too attracted to the spotlight.

They prepare all the sports talking bits, goofy videos that are popular, that kind of thing. Show prep and structure, basically. I don't think they feed lines. Jim wouldn't stand for that and if they are feeding lines to Opie he's not using them. It's not like Opie has become a comedic talent since the Stangels have been part of the show.

As a long time Stern fan, part of fun of that show is picking out Benjy's lines that Howard says. I think it's pretty obvious when Howard blurts out a Benjy line.

Opie has become a comedic talent since the Stangels have been part of the show.

How would you tell though, they are as unfunny as he is.

The stangle's have the ability to formulate jokes that would appeal to very young children or senior citizens, opie doesnt even have that. The joke that tits was fed by Stangle the Lesser when they had the no tongue guy on about growing up with Charlie brown was immediately noticeable as a letterman quality joke; still utter shit yet way out of opies depth.

Yeah they could bring in an Ant replacement and I'd be totally open to it, they would just need to be funny. I listened through all the bullshit and boring drama but had to stop once the Stangels came in because it was finally just too awful for Jimmy to redeem it.

Nice tagline. I would listen to the show everyday if someone would trash opie.

Justin Stangle is the worst part of Erock (weight) mixed with the worst part of Sam (Unneccesary butting in), then given Danny Ross's ego.

He makes Opie seem good at his job.

With Roland's comedic skills.

No... The Stangel hate is because they've helped move the direction of the show away from the target demographic of men 18-34+. It's always what O&A were about. Now, the show seems like a radio version of the Tonight Show. Typically the first hour (monologue, if you will) is current events and making jokes. 2nd hour is when guests arrive, and the interviews start. 3rd hour is becoming a musical guest time, typically some no-name fag who Opie asks to do covers.

I hate them because they're not funny and the fat one makes me angry to look at.

Seriously, after the shit they've done to Nagel over the years, they can't bring someone who looks like Jackie Gleason's half Jewish transman son with 0.0% of the humor of that legend, who doesn't say funny shit, put him on mic and expect us NOT to hate him.

He looks like Fat Otacon from Metal Gear Zilch

I've only heard clips of him on YouTube, but he is one of the types of people Opie would seem to rally against on the old show (Because Opie is a fraud) and now kisses the ass of.

I know they'd occasionally send jokes on the old show, whatever. You can't tell me you see that fat fuck's picture of himself in overalls and just imagine the 2+ hour beating that picture would get when this show was "Above all else, real."

Yup. The hate works both ways. For some people it's because of overall disappointment with the show. For others, Opie is awful in any/every context and the Stangels are nearly as bad.

If the Stangels were on TACS or Skanks or Bonfire or Gavin or (insert show you don't hate, if there are any), they'd probably get pretty close to the same amount of hate.

They're awful because they're Stangels. PERIOD

"I hate them because they're not funny and the fat one makes me angry to look at."

I love this sub

They moved in that direction the second Ant was gone. Months before the Stangels got there.

The show pretty much went like that before Ant was gone too.

At least it doing well with the Gays now.

Well I mean lettermens job was offered to opie I heard, he couldn't accept because he's got kids.

Ughh. Talking age demos. Shut up faggot.

Every single time they try to psychoanalyze us they get it completely wrong. It just makes me cringe at this point.

They're delusional out of touch old men. Jimmy thinks he's an addict and Anthony thinks keith the cop and rat are good employees.

I still don't know who this Rat fuckhead is, but I don't like him

He's a pussy virgin who Gavin has tried to get laid but he wants no part of it. He's 25 and terrified of pussy.

I mean let's be honest here for a minute, this sub does it's fair share of unfounded psychoanalysis (along with some legitimate). Don't you agree? Ultimately this whole fucking mess is a two way street.

Yeah we do indeed do the exact same thing now that you mention it

Yeah, but we aren't the ones putting ourselves out there for all the world to see. When you're a public figure, you leave yourself open to interpretation by the general public. They can look at your Twitter, Facebook, things you have said in the past, public records, etc, and pick apart any little thing to form a puzzle and begin to understand who this person is.

You can't do that with random people online. Or, it is at least much more difficult. You can do what Anthony does and single out one person and find things to analyze them on, but you can't do that with a general concept. You can't just sum up people who post to reddit or wherever with a generic cover-all statement. People are here for multiple reasons, with very different backgrounds. This isn't 1995. "The Internet" itself isn't just some collective of people who are all together for one reason. When they say things like this it really shows their age and that they simply never will understand this culture and the way that it exists now. I get that they want to fight back when they feel they are being attacked, but it's not really a battle you can win. The only way to win is to not get involved.

This isn't 1995. "The Internet" itself isn't just some collective of people who are all together for one reason. When they say things like this it really shows their age and that they simply never will understand this culture and the way that it exists now.

Exactly. People in that mindset still use the "bunch of nerds in their moms basement" outdated joke. It's more likely that most of us are posting from work.

The mom's basement joke is so fucking stupid and generic and outdated. And it makes even less sense when applied to O&A fans. I thought we were all fat truckers. Now we are beckbeard basement dwellers. Whatever suits the lousy argument, I guess.

Not all of us are fortunate to have parents with basements. Misses the point guy.

US=Reddit faggots ...ewww

What's your point sir?

They're cornballs. Simple as that. They obviously haven't made a career off of talent. Which pretty much leaves asskissing as their main function. And to make it worse they apparently have roamed this earth for half a century, coddled by avoiding anyone telling them how fucking cheesdick they are.

Coddled is definitely a good description. Justin is the most irritating example of a clueless, dipshitted suburban dad who always got picked on and then told himself "I'm an adult now, that phase of my life is over" and believed it. He is badly in need of being dropped off in the hood so some homies will spot him and instinctively try to see if he would bounce when they hurl him down a steep hill.

Totally agree. I picture them not even getting picked on as kids though. Likely grew up In a very sheltered environment where anyone they were allowed around was as dorky or more so than them. No way these fucking mushes ever took an asskicking. Once they got in "the business" in the stupid role the dying "Late Show" they were always Ina corporate environment. So everyone is phony and they take it as legitimate. Also they were around comic's all the time, but comic's wouldn't go after them for fear it would hurt their chances to get on "Late Show".

If they had been bullied properly as children they probably wouldn't have turned out as the diabetic garbage cans who won't get to meet their grandchildren that they are. Their sheltered upbringing will inevitably prove to be their downfall.

How fat they are?

They took Sam's role, so that's bullshit.

"Piece-a gahbage!"

"I'm not that smelly! Why would you go after me? What did I do to deserve that!? Hah...heh...sniff"

jesus fucking christ that shit is annoying. only seen clips of stangel bashings, and that is all he fucking says. Zero riffing ability.

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They are non-contributors to the show that were hired with Ant money. They are unfunny and have pushed the show even further in the direction of a family show.

Many of us work with people who are like Opie and the Stangels. When we go to work or get out of work we are looking to fucking laugh at raw and nasty humor. Opie and the Stangels are not giving us our funny.

It is because they suck. We all know that if the Ant replacement was a long time, funny fan favorite like Colin Quinn, adding that person to the show would be a huge boon. The dishonesty of pretending to fight for Ant and the lies that they didn't become radically different people following the marriage and children as well as the Obama administrations was just crap. Something like this would have given him a lot of slack with me...

"Ant and I have disliked each other since 1999. My wife cannot stand him and I think a considerable number of people, but especially minorities and women, were sick of the alcoholism, teenager trysts and the guns, race and politics bullshit. I as well as the managers, PDs, Jim Norton and Ron Bennington talked to him on many, many occasions about his excessive alcohol use and political rants. I don't want to do a show like that anymore. I do see this as an opportunity for both of us to do what we would prefer in the media. This isn't either-or, listen to both programs. In the meantime, we will be auditioning for the Ant replacement. We understand that this is trying to replace the irreplaceable, but I have a shot to do the show that I want as the star of it and the money and infrastructure and guest access is much too much for me to pass up on."

He could have said that in July after the firing, I would have disagreed, I would have thought it was disloyal and self-serving and that the Opie and Anthony Show Without Anthony would be a trainwreck.

Amen to that. Hate him or love him at least that would've been honest and taken some serious balls.

I think the problem also is that Anthony was our fallen hero when this all went down, and Opie was expected by the vast majority of everyone that knows them to back him 100%. Even no matter how honest that would be it would be interpreted as kicking a man while he was down, backstabbing in the highest order, and he might have either been respected or completely hated with a vicious relentless response from the fans that didn't let up.

Holy fuck, I actually thought he wrote that and was shocked because it sounds marginally intelligent and nearly adult in tone and content. If he said that out of the blue, I'd disagree too because we all knew how little of a clue Opie had about how much he blew. Didn't matter who was in, he never thought through his interjections, however few, which should've garnered boos. And now we're left with Soft Rock Radio.

If he had said that after the Times Square incident, after SXM decided to let Ant go no matter what, that's different. And mature. But instead we got Larry King tearing Tits apart and catching him in double speak that, he didn't fight for Ant, but to the fans he always pretended to be loyal.

Maybe Opie wants Ronnie B really really bad to join the show, which he seems to have suggested a few times since Anthony left, but for a few reasons Ron won't join.

  1. Loyalty to Anthony and respect for his "property" of Opie as a cohost. He's not going to jack Anthony's cohost from him. He's not going to try to become the A in O&A. He had/has a basic respect for the brand and is not trying to insert himself into it permanently for that reason.
  2. If Ron joined the show, he knows deep down that there would be a good possibility the show would become consistently listenable again, and it would seal the deal for Anthony to be out of a job at Sirius for good (when this all went down at first it seemed to be a lot more unclear whether or not Anthony was coming back)
  3. The fans could easily turn on him as well, seeing him as a traitor or trying to take Ant's spot.
  4. Probably a part of him doesn't want to go back to that schedule or that high profile of a show etc, he might like his relaxed gig he has now and no reason to mess that up.

Ron looks at Opie like you'd look at someone who just got beat up at the bus stop before school. You wouldn't join in but you in no way would want to be associated with them.

i think the main reason would be why would he wants to reduce to 3rd mic when he can run his own show like a tyrant

you are forgetting something, Ron is actually intelligent and perceptive, he's known Opie for a very long time. he knows how terrible it would be to work with him, and wouldn't want to subject himself to it.

They understand why they're hated, it's just basic professionalism not to shit on successful people in the business because of their awful hair and non-talent. If you shit on everyone like that you'll end up in the wilderness. This is why Ant "adores" Schumer, because she's a get-able big name. It's not cynical, it's normal and everyone does it.

I hate Justin Stangel because he is genetic trash.

Are you saying Professor Norton may have been incorrect in his analysis?

If Justin Stangel weren't on the air I'd have few reasons for hating him.

That's just a fact. By being on the air you draw the criticism.

As much as we make fun of Erock we also love him. That is because when he's on air he's doing something for the show. That usually means putting himself down in the process. We respect that.

You, Mr. Stangel, we hate because you add nothing to the show. You and your brothers comments suck. The show is not funnier since you arrived. All you are is a larger staff to take up what was leftover of Ants money. In other words you suck and you are replaceable. Youve done nothing to endear yourself to the fans and we owe you NOTHING.

They know what the problem is. You're mistaken with the whole gregshells thing. Everybody involved in that show lacks the courage to bring anything up to somebody else's face. They just want to make it to the end of the day and cash a check - not make work awkward by pointing out how shit people you're forced to be in a room with are.

Ant said he doesn't understand it and why would he be worried about Greggshells? He played dumb about the whole cake stomp revival too. I wonder if Jim asked Ant to help call off the dogs.

I generally hate all unfunny and fat people. Then on top of that they're friends of tits.

As long as Tits is wasting bandwidth. we will be here.

Stengels are just collateral damage, like a drone strike that hits innocents.

Maybe you should not associate with such people, then you won't get caught in the blast radius.

We are winning because our activity discourages people from working with him, or at least makes them wary of associating themselves with him.

I'm just disgusted that this is what we get in exchange for Dr. Gay, Hawk, and Sammy Branmuffins. This world is a cruel, cruel, incredibly fat and Jewy place

his hair, and face bug me

I don't think anyone would hate them if they were not on air. Eric can talk okay like a travis or mars but not a talent on air but Justin is Opie and Anthony in 1994 bad.

Thanks, angry president of reddit.

It's not fucking complicated you dimwits. They ain't Ant so fuck them.

Really, that's all it is, Opie. We will continue to hate you until you make nice with Ant. I don't even care if Ant's been an asshole as well. Irrelevant. You suck and he's a comedic genius. Deal with it, big boy. Make right with Ant (get him back on the show, preferably) and we'll be cool.

No we won't, young starry-eyed boy. The show is dead and it will never, ever, come back. Opie and Anthony will never work together again. Anthony will never work in radio again. There will be no big reunion. Nor will Jim leave the show to hang out in Anthony's basement for free lunch and handjobs from ugly lolitas. All three of them are too far gone down their own rabbit holes of self-interest to ever work together and try to make a good show again. Even the last few years, specifically the first half of 2014, showed how little any of them cared. Opie just wanted to push his dumb hashtags and t-shirts, and if Anthony was such an amazing comedic genius he wouldn't have spent a minimum of an hour every single day raging about niggers and other things that will never, ever effect him.

Wake up, guy. This is the way the shows are going and it's not going to change. There is not going to be one, big, happy O&A family again like it's 2006. Steve C. is dead. Otto is dead. Greg Giraldo is dead. Patrice is dead. And the show is fucking dead. The things you like in life are dead and I couldn't be happier for your loss. Grow up.

Why you don't tell us how you really feel?

That's not really how I feel. I was just stating facts.

Maybe you're right. Hell, you're probably correct...but a starry-eyed boy can dream, can't he? O&A and Ron & Fez were special. They weren't like the garbage you usually get from talk radio and I miss it, you know?

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peckahs

Heh heh thankgodforbeer killin it for us today. Vurry good.

Cool username

Yup. The hate works both ways. For some people it's because of overall disappointment with the show. For others, Opie is awful in any/every context and the Stangels are nearly as bad.

If the Stangels were on TACS or Skanks or Bonfire or Gavin or (insert show you don't hate, if there are any), they'd probably get pretty close to the same amount of hate.

They're awful because they're Stangels. PERIOD

Yeah, but we aren't the ones putting ourselves out there for all the world to see. When you're a public figure, you leave yourself open to interpretation by the general public. They can look at your Twitter, Facebook, things you have said in the past, public records, etc, and pick apart any little thing to form a puzzle and begin to understand who this person is.

You can't do that with random people online. Or, it is at least much more difficult. You can do what Anthony does and single out one person and find things to analyze them on, but you can't do that with a general concept. You can't just sum up people who post to reddit or wherever with a generic cover-all statement. People are here for multiple reasons, with very different backgrounds. This isn't 1995. "The Internet" itself isn't just some collective of people who are all together for one reason. When they say things like this it really shows their age and that they simply never will understand this culture and the way that it exists now. I get that they want to fight back when they feel they are being attacked, but it's not really a battle you can win. The only way to win is to not get involved.

Opie has become a comedic talent since the Stangels have been part of the show.

How would you tell though, they are as unfunny as he is.

If they had been bullied properly as children they probably wouldn't have turned out as the diabetic garbage cans who won't get to meet their grandchildren that they are. Their sheltered upbringing will inevitably prove to be their downfall.

"I hate them because they're not funny and the fat one makes me angry to look at."

I love this sub

Nice tagline. I would listen to the show everyday if someone would trash opie.