Anthony kind of turned into an asshole

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How fucking dare you not end this sniveling pablum with a chip roll.

Ctrl - F 'peckah'

Oh god he's serious.

Opie isn't that talented. Right Ope...?

This one could have been an all-time great...

...he kept saying stupid racist shit on the air and on Twitter despite being warned not to.

You're a fag.

Such a fag he calls himself an "Author" at the end.

Opie was upset with Ant because he thought he had a better personal relationship with him than he did.

Ant was upset with Opie because he thought he had a better professional relationship with him than he did.

I don't think anybody is wrong, here. It was clear they were moving apart, but I think one hand washes the other. Had Ant maintained a better friendship with Opie, I feel like Opie would have been more willing to put his career at stake to save Ant's. But, it's clear they didn't have that relationship anymore. I really don't blame Opie at all. Walking away from millions of dollars a year in support of somebody who you don't even like who fucked up bad? Who would? Not me. Gregshells thing made both look bad, but it really did make Ant look worse, IMO. Just petty, really. He also probably fucked up whatever chance he might have had at joining back together with the show, but after the new contract was sealed, that ship had sailed anyway so fuck it.

And no, Opie is a bland guy who drags down the laughs and Ant is one of the funniest entertainers on the planet, but it's clear to me that if you aren't friends with the dude, then why would you ruin your business opportunity worth even MORE money for him? Nope. If there's no friendship, it's just business. And that's the only smart business move. Take the money like Opie and Jimmy.

Truth is, I'm an O&A fan. I can't explain it well, but they were better together than the sum of their worth apart. Ant is super fast, but he also lacks focus and self-awareness. Opie is flat as a board, but he knows how to move a radio show along pretty well and can manage and set-up stuff for the comedians to do what they do best. Kinda like a play-by-play guy to Ant's color commentary in baseball, if you'll excuse the analogy. People love the color guy, but ever hear that inning where he broadcasts alone? Just completely lost and awkward. They worked well together, obviously, as one of the most successful radio duos in history. Wish shit didn't turn out like this.

I know this sub is really resentful and it's partly a bit for laughs, but I can't be the only one who wishes O&A were still on the radio together.

Opie is flat as a board

This is where you lost me. That's a straight up lie.

This is why I love this subreddit, in spite of it all.

Opie is flat as a board, but he knows how to move a radio show along pretty well and can manage and set-up stuff for the comedians to do what they do best. Kinda like a play-by-play guy to Ant's color commentary in baseball, if you'll excuse the analogy. People love the color guy, but ever hear that inning where he broadcasts alone? Just completely lost and awkward.

The Nopie shows are fantastic. Opie has been far more of a hindrance than a contributor since the shock jock days.

yeah, wow, I almost had a little glimmer of something akin to not hating Opie until I read your response. Opie is fucking garbage and always has been. Box o' cocks? go fuck yourself

Anthony is better with Opie and Opie is better with Anthony. Both are weak when on their own, but together, they're the best they can possibly be. Ant is painfully weak on his own, Opie luckily has Jimmy doing his best to fill the Ant role, but it's not the same. Ant and Opie's chemistry was really lightning in a bottle and it never went away.

Absolutely not. It's clear that Anthony needs someone to steer the ship, but that person is NOT Opie. That fucking retard ruined so many bits over the years and time and again proved to be an interrupting, fake, hacky piece of shit. The fact that O&A succeeded in spite of him is a testament to how great the remaining pieces of the show were. Anthony needs a competent executive director that can keep his worst qualities in check and keep the show moving, together with Jimmy and a decent staff. Opie has no role in that equation and I never want to see them back ever again.

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That's because that mulatto is much better at being a radio host than that fat ginger fuckhead

Ron, ant, dave, that would be great. And bring earl back just so dave can piss him off.

Ron is great. I like chris and gale but they aren't stellar radio personalities. Chris should have ten minutes of total airtime a day. Gale would be a solid third or fourth mic.

Thinking about o and a with patrice and guys like bill burr on all the time, and ron and fez with dave afterwards gets me sad. Basically got me through so many shitty jobs and commutes.

Yeah totally. Opie ruined their show which is why it became arguably the second most popular entertainment talk show ever being Howard and was on the air for 20 years. Good point you fucking nothing.

Yes it did.

Totally. That's why O&J and TACS are so great, right cunt?

Their chemistry was always there, even the worst O&A was better than the best O&J or TACS. So fuck off.

Ant and Opie's chemistry was really lightning in a bottle and it never went away

what? are you serious?

100% serious. Even at the end, on friday shows when Jimmy was out and it was just O&A, they would have awesome conversations. They may have hated each other, but their chemistry never went away.

I agree, in the final few months the best shows were when Jim was filming for Vice.

Walking away from millions of dollars a year in support of somebody who you don't even like who fucked up bad?

The problem is that most listeners didnt know they hated each other until a bit later after the firing. Both men were lying about their relationship for years. When Opie came back on the air without Ant, he made it seem like he fought for him to return.

However during Opie's crying episode a few months later, he let it slip that perhaps he didnt fight for Anthony, which in Opiespeak probably means he went behind the scenes to deliberately get Ant fired, getting more money and more control of the show in the process.

To sum it up, Opie is an unforgivable cunt.

When you go back and listen to the shows the last 3 years especially, you can hear the tension between the two.

You summed it up perfectly. The play-by-play and color guy analogy is spot on IMO.

Ant's color commentary

Good one.

That's all well and good, but when does the gay sex come into the picture?

Make it longer....

If I had to work with someone like Opie, I'd be an alcoholic-no-show- run-out-of-studio-as-soon-as-the-show-is-over, too. I've been there. You really believed Opie's tears were genuine? You sound like a moron.

Too far bro. He doesn't sound like a moron. We respect each other around here pal! You got that?

Leave it alone.

They were definitely genuine... dude he was on a rant and then got to a point where he goes "We couldn't get enough of each other, after every show we would call--" and his voice cracked up and he couldn't talk for like 10 seconds after it. Plus if he was really looking for sympathy on it he never would've hit the laugh track on his own crying. I don't even give Opie enough credit to be manipulative enough to try and fake cry, he probably knew the instant those tears started he was going to get murdered for it which is why he waited so long to try and talk. I think he definitely took the OpieRadio show and ran that day which was scummy but everything else, the 20 year relationship crashing down and turning into that, I do believe the tears were real at that part

there's absolutely no fucking way that he is capable of acting like he's crying. that was 100% real. he's too stupid for it not to be.

lol.

hes crafty enough to have sxm take down studio wallpaper the day they got back on air and put on the opieradio logo

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The point is he is not fake crying. He is genuinely sad Ant is gone. However, is not sad about any part he played in helping Ant out the door. He is a narcissist, They don't fake cry. They just never admit culpability. It's always someone else's fault.

They were partially sorry-for-himself tears, but I bet some of it was genuine.

But that doesn't help his case. It actually hurts my opinion of him even further knowing that he was that emotionally wrapped up in Ant not liking him.

Yea, some people are forgetting, how thick the Opie hate already was back then. Those fake tears were for sympathy. He was begging us to lay off. Well, tough titty, the damage had already been done.

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The Nopie shows had a consistently higher batting average than the show generally. Opie was an appendix.

why wouldnt they, they knew they sold out, and they been playing victim since day 1 they got back on air

He was NEVER meant to be the funniest guy in the room but he's been doing raqio since he was 18. He HAD to take Ant under his wing and pass down the priceless knowledge of the business as was once passed onto him by the GREAT Brother Wease (LoveyaMissya) until Ant was able to run with it. (Sniff). Maybe millions were on the table, maybe they were about to be syndicated, maybe they were rapidly growing in popularity, but they just didn't talk anymore. PERIOD. (Sniff).......dead air......

Anthony has no feelings, this became quite obvious during the Patrice memorial show, and plenty of other times. Ant's way of not getting depressed is to throw back a drink and put on a fake smile and detach himself from the situation as much as he can. Whether or not Opie does good radio is irrelevant, he is a lot more genuine of a person than Anthony, what you see is what you get with him and Anthony is way more insidious.

I actually agree that it's hard to watch Anthony now because mostly he just seems so god damn fake. Huge smile, big laugh, weird hairstyle and all of a sudden he's always wearing a button down shirt on every appearance he makes. It's not genuine.

That being said it doesn't mean I like O&J. It's really difficult to listen to Jim try and try and try to make the show funny when Opie has unlimited determination to make it really dry. Neither show is very good, the only reason I'm still here pretty much is because I'm pretty much just waiting for more drama to unfold each day

Anthony has no feelings, this became quite obvious during the Patrice memorial show, and plenty of other times. Ant's way of not getting depressed is to throw back a drink and put on a fake smile and detach himself from the situation as much as he can.

When Von was on TACS with Jimmy, she mentioned there was a time when she tweeted something cryptic after Patrice's death that suggested she was in a dark place (can't remember what the exact tweet was). She said that Ant called her and talked it over with her for a long time to make sure she was OK. This seems so insanely out of character for him. I can't help but wonder, was he trying to fuck her? Or is this his one genuinely kind act that I've been made aware of after over a decade of listening to this soulless sociopath?

Ant isn't a sociopath. He's just never been able to discuss his feelings well unless it's anger. Maybe it's something from his family, I don't know. He cares for Von so of course he would check up on her. He won't call Burr or Opie because that requires some awkwardness and maybe some humility. It's better to avoid it or joke about it. People liked ripping on Opie because he wanted to go out for a beer and discuss things instead of going on Ant's show, but Ant wouldnt have it because that would take away the shield that performing gives you.

The sub doesn't care that there are layers to these people because complexity isn't funny, which is fine. But it's not going to get to any real truth of the matter either.

Ant's really dug himself into a hole and I hope he can grow up and repair some shit in his life, if only to improve the quality of his show. But there is no pressing need for him to do it so it seems unlikely.

Maybe it's something from his family, I don't know.

Ya think?

She's black and older than 26. He wasn't trying to fuck her.

Nice memory damn. Yeah I can't say anything about what Anthony does that we don't see,and that shows a lot of integrity by him. It just seems like publicly or in front of a microphone his way of dealing with it is detachment and to keep the light heartedness going. Never know that happened though it's pretty cool.

... And they say the gineau's small heart grew three times that day.

If you're gonna make a shitty joke the least you could do is spell guinea correctly faggot.

The whole quote is mangled. He got a pitch he could have at least pulled through the hole for a single, and fouled it off his dick instead.

buried that cawksucka

difficult to listen to Jim try and try and try to make the show funny

He should first work on trying not to sound depressed & fatigued before attempting funny.

Great point. Notice that any good shows O+J have had is when someone Jimmy likes is a guest. Otherwise he sounds like a depressed teenager. We all know Opie stinks, but a lot of times he can't even get Jimmy to play along with him. Jim leaves Opie out to dry, a lot. Which I understand his frustration, but dude your getting paid to do a radio show. Anthony can fuck himself, he blew any chance at the show getting back together. He cried about Derosa talking shit on Rogans podcast before reaching out to him, but when Opie offered to sit down and talk he said fuck it and slammed him for 3 hours. All while taking shit he read here and putting Opie on blast, he then turns around and hates this sub because it eventually turned on him. He is NEARLY as thin-skinned as titty boy.

He is NEARLY as thin-skinned as titty boy.

I'd argue he's more thin skinned because he argues back, for the most part Opie doesn't even give us the time of day, although there is no doubt in mind that he checks this place multiple times daily.

Anthony just can't handle emotion. He uses humor to deal with any sort of emotion, even when it's wildly inappropriate. Look at the call where the guy talks with Lydia the psychologist about his daughter dying in a car crash. It's hilarious, but it's pretty clear that whenever there's honest emotion involved, Anthony gets super uncomfortable and does whatever he can to avoid. I understand where he coming from, I do the same thing although not to the extent that Ant does. He has feelings, he just doesn't like feeling feelings.

That's a better way of saying it thx

I actually don't blame Opie for not going to bat for Anthony and giving it his all in defending him. Anthony clearly didn't like Opie very much (accidentally sending him a text calling him a cunt...), he disrespected the show by showing up late a handful times (sometimes last minute), and he put the show in an awful place with his tired racist horseshit. People forget that the entire show was threatened by Anthony's twitter bullshit. No one knew if Anthony was going to be fired or if the whole show was going to be cancelled. Why would you go to bat for someone like that if you don't even particularly enjoy working with them anymore?

But Opie's an asshole because he didn't explain all of that. He just did his passive shit and lied to try to appease everyone so he wouldn't catch any heat. Yeah, Anthony just wanted to "do his own thing", even though neither of them actually spoke following the firing. If he had just laid out his entire problem with Anthony, and why he didn't want to continue working with the guy, he'd have taken some heat and eventually resumed business with his boring milquetoast garbage. They're both mammoth cunts who don't know how to handle anything like men. That's my point here.

let's face it, they're all horrible people and they made their bones at a time when that had a certain charm.

that time is gone now and they were living on borrowed time. they found a way to temporarily stave off the inevitable but they all have to be sweating knowing the end is near and they got a glimpse of it.

But the fact that Anthony had said much worse on air and nobody batted an eye was where I think it was confusing. I don't think Ant deliberately or concsiously Tweeted something he knew he would get in trouble for because he'd been saying similar things ON AIR and nobody paid attention. Apparently now Opie is saying management talked to him (Opie) about it, but that's not what either of them said at first and if management DID talk to Opie, he never said anything to Ant about it. Which, imo, sounds like some cunty thing he would do.

I think why Opie looks so bad in all of this is because he's really bad at articulating his point. Like you point out, that whole "Ant wants to do his own thing" nonsense was him trying to soften the blow and show that Ant would be alright. I think what he meant by it was maybe we'll have some creative freedom now that we were put in this situation, but he was really bad at getting to his point, again like you said, with his passive aggressive appeasement statements.

he's really bad at articulating his point.

No, he deliberately tried to portray himself as having fought for Anthony because the truth made him look like shit.

Sure he did. You know don't you. I believe he did fight but never threatened to quit. That's it. No grand conspiracy like you faggot shits seem to think. Suck a small dick you queer.

If Opie had tried to get Ant back we would have heard it, everyday, on the show. He would have been telling us exactly what he was doing or did to get him back. But he has never mentioned even ONE thing that he did. All he said was Ant wanted to leave anyway. Which we all know is a lie.

Then you work with him and fill us in after 20yrs.

If you can make it one year working with somebody it's reasonable to say you don't have any serious issues. You even took a pay cut to stay working with him.

You made it 20 years, yet you act like you were an abused housewife who has finally escaped but is bitter because she didn't get anything in the divorce. This is why you suck. Just admit you're a bitch, and be done with it.

Not reading this shit

Thats a whole lotta words.....

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Christ what a long post.

Hold on, hold on, hold on, I can't read English.

I'm not a conspiracy theory guy....but it's weird that someone created an account just to post this.

WHO ARE YOU REALLY /u/frrrrrrrrrrrunkis

they all kind of stink without each other. they didn't like each other. they didn't even talk outside of the show. i'm kind of surprised anthony was like "why didn't you fight for me?!!" there's no way anthony would have left for opie, but he wanted anthony and jimmy to join him he SHOULD HAVE FUCKING ASKED. It sounds like they never even talked about it. Opie sounds like a fucking dick that makes people uncomfortable, but Ant sounds like a little bitch. he's like I hate you, I don't wanna be friends, I don't wanna talk on the phone, but I want you to leave for me.

there's no way anthony would have left for opie

No, because it would have been an objective upgrade.

There's lots of people saying Opie is unfunny, he brings nothing to the show, he's a hole, etc. but that has nothing to do with the fact that Anthony really treated him as well as the rest of the show like shit.

The mistake you're making is thinking we give a shit who had the moral high ground. We don't. One was talented and entertaining, the other was not.

Yea but Opie's show sucks now. That's all that matters

I totally agree with your summation. I think the fans don't know what went on behind the scenes and only have second hand information to go off of. Fans didn't care that Erock and Sam and Travis and all the other behind the scenes guys could've had their own careers ruined if Opie and Jim just walked with Ant. Ant's constant shitting on Opie reached the point a long while ago where it comes off as petty and how an ex girlfriend would talk about the guy who dumped her and she wasn't over.

Opie has less talent and is not great on the radio, so it's easy for people to gang up and hate on him, but as you pointed out, the fact of the matter is Anthony was at fault for what happened to him, not that I agree with sirius firing him but he's the one who went on a racist diatribe on twitter.

What I'd hoped would happen was when Ant got fired, him and Opie either plan the O&A show to move somewhere else, but then Anthony started TACS almost immediately and began the whole greggshells thing (which if you ask me, was him starting to believe the hype and giving into what people online were saying and feeding off of it) happened before O&J re-signed. I'd hoped once the new contract was to be signed, Anthony would come back. Sort of an extended suspension. I 100% do not believe Opie had anything to do with Ant getting fired, I think he tried to save Ant and when he realized it coudn't be done, then he saved him and Jimmy and the staff.

began the whole greggshells thing (which if you ask me, was him starting to believe the hype and giving into what people online were saying and feeding off of it) happened before O&J re-signed.

Not true. Ant was still consistently going to bat for Opie and telling us to lay off before October.

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Opie accuses Reddit "haters" of making fake accounts. OP and whatever this was are making me think the "lovers" are the fake accounts.

Nobody is even a lover, it's being rationale and having actual discussion. We can have one thread for that, can't we? The OP and anyone else bringing up points even said they don't like Opie.

OP might have had a "point" 6 months ago one day after "Greggshells" happened. Nothing remotely insightful was said in the post and he should use his one day old account to do a search and find his exact opinion from hundreds of people the week after it happened.

Oh E Rock! Why didn't you explain to tits you were late last Friday because you spent all night crafting this drivel.

Post - TL; DR

Response to the thread title: fuck you, too.

Thank you for your service.

Blah, blah, blah, WE HEARD YOU!!!!!!!

peckahs?

What do you do for a livin', character?

Legit lol.

They ALL kind of turned into assholes.

we've got an 'Oliver Overtyper' here

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Plus ... Anthony didn't even stay overnight at Opie's three day sleepover wedding!!!!!!!!!!!

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Opie accuses "haters" of making fake accounts. OP is making me think the "lovers" are the fake accounts.

WE HEARD YOU

it was a miracle that Opie and Jimmy managed to keep the show alive on their own.

Time to Terri Schiavo this bitch!

I really thought this was gonna be a Chip-Roll

ant wanted to keep doing the show. opie only had a short time left in him and was in it for the money.

opie knew that, for a short time, he could cash in on the goodwill the brand has and collect part of ant's paycheck. might as well let ant go and begin the end of his radio career if it was going to happen anyway.

pretty simple really.

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Do you feel better now?

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Opie and Jim seem like good guys to me. I'd have a beer with any of them.

Anthony is passive aggressive and bitter. He takes cheap cruel shots, and he always seems to be thinking about the people that have "wronged him". He just seems like a tough person to spend time with.

Opie seems like he would be pleasant to speak with, but his idiocy would still be inescapable.

he seems like he's one of those people that you never want to take psychedelics with, because they just talk at you and then stare expectantly until you respond and validate them in some way

You couldn't have a beer with Jim. Didn't you hear? He had a six pack when he was 18 and nearly cut his head off and called in bomb threats to the federal authorities. Since then, he's been much better, taking it one day at a time. The good thing about hitting bottom is there's only one way to go friend, and that's up. Thoughts and prayers.

Opie's a mean old lady with a tender heart. If only Ant wasn't a little girl himself, that whole thing could have happened on air years ago. Opie would have started all pissy and mad only to end up snuffling and cry-belching before calling for a break.

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It's easy for Opie to take the moral high ground, he got everything they built together. Anthony is the only one with anything to be bitter over.

he's even dyeing his fucking hair now. The guy's lost it?

You need a "/s" tag because it's hard to tell you are being sarcastic. Let's be real, Opie and Anthony both have their character flaws. Anthony can't take anything seriously and he wants to avoid everything and be passive about conflicts. It's shitty to bail last second and leave your friends to do the show alone. When it comes to Opie, the greggshells thing is absolutely true. Working with someone like that for 20 years will certainly make you resent them. They get to take shots at everyone, poke at your insecurities, play the psycho, but when say something back he might lose his shit and make it personal. Everyone feels awkward and the flow of the show is dead. The energy is just zapped.

All we can go off of is what we hear and see on air really. And Ant is always been the fan favorite and charismatic so he doesn't get as much hate. Opie isn't the funny charming guy and he has a lot of things he does on air that really annoy people. IpsoFacto people get annoyed by Opie so they come here to unload and all these guys unloading on each others faces and backs here in this subreddit just keeps the hate circle going.

You need a "/s" tag because it's hard to tell you are being sarcastic.

Nobody needs an /s tag. NOBODY.

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Searched for "pecka" and "juicy".

Disappointed. Downvoted

Haha that's so long.

Mah dyykkk

I think you're way off point. You are omitting an important factor, Opie is an extreme narcissist. He thinks (and apparently so do you) that his actions behind the scenes played no major part in their falling out. You are focusing on Ant's problems because they were obvious flaws we all got to see. Opie's shenanigans on the other hand never got aired out as much, which he made sure of, if second hand accounts are to be believed.

This is important in placing blame. Honestly, I agree that they both should have gotten over themselves a figured out a way to work together, and Ant, while not so much a narcissist, was just a shitty person (alcoholic, perverted racist). Sure. But we have many accounts of Opie being an intolerable, selfish prick off air. That is key to why he is equally to blame if not more so. It's not just that he pulled shit, it's that he pulled shit and would never own up to it and then threaten to blow up the show anytime some would try to call him on it (Leave it alone). It's called gas-lighting. It's a common trait among self-absorbed, narcissistic personalities that we just used to call psychopaths.

You have to include this when considering Ant's mindset towards the show. Ant stopped caring about their personal relationship when it was obvious to him that Opie was always going to be this way and would never own up to bad decisions. But Opie is the one who cried about it. Yeah, right.

It's always someones else's fault with Opie. Opie doesn't have any major faults. He went to therapy. He got that shit figured out years ago. No, he didn't.

Do you even watch Anthony's show? I watched it and it's 100X better than O&J. You also get Gavin's show, LOS, and a new show that i seem to always forget.

"Author's note" you're not an Author you hack. You made a new account just for this failure?

You're a fucking moron.

No he isn't.

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Get a new hobby. Obsessing over Anthony isn't healthy.

Do you have a cutout of Liza Minelli in your basement?

You're one year late with this crap and it's your first post on Reddit. Is this Opie's new sockpuppet account? HI OPIE!!! Some of us used to respect the way you held the show together and actually made it better even if you weren't funny.

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He was NEVER meant to be the funniest guy in the room but he's been doing raqio since he was 18. He HAD to take Ant under his wing and pass down the priceless knowledge of the business as was once passed onto him by the GREAT Brother Wease (LoveyaMissya) until Ant was able to run with it. (Sniff). Maybe millions were on the table, maybe they were about to be syndicated, maybe they were rapidly growing in popularity, but they just didn't talk anymore. PERIOD. (Sniff).......dead air......

why wouldnt they, they knew they sold out, and they been playing victim since day 1 they got back on air

The Nopie shows had a consistently higher batting average than the show generally. Opie was an appendix.