he'll probably reup for five years and say he always wanted to sign longer contracts because they were more lucrative in the last two years than just a two year contract and he never understood why they didn't do it before.

https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=opie%20anthony

that's fffuckin brrrrutttaal brothermaaaan!

He and Jim Norton have that show for as long as they want it (and they both want it; don't kid yourself).

And don't go by Twitter numbers as an indicator of success. It makes you look like a rube.

nonononono jim norton was being held at gunpoint to take that 30% raise

he prolly dont feel all that bad doing radio with opie is all i wanted to say, btw did u edit out the part where he was slashing his own throat every time hes in studio with opie?

I think u had something like "yummy norton is biting his teeth right now" in the post before you edited it, but watevs. And I don't like the opster

uhhh not if he explicitly explained that its just twitter, doesnt know how accurate that is, and decides to ask the community(of scumbags and assholes) associated with the show, hoping for more info

How the fuck do you know that? Are you Scott Greenstein?

gsbird has been a team Opie ball washer from the start.

Says Ant's #1 ball washer. Irony, eh?

only if quality of content isn't a factor

In the grand scheme of things, the Opie & Jim show costs peanuts to produce; probably around 1/15th of what the Stern show costs. It's probably little more than an afterthought/filler to the powers-that-be.

If they're offered a new deal, I don't think Opie will have to take a pay cut. For all we know, it's a write-off for Sirius.

Nobody's feeding their families off of subscriptions based solely on the O&J show, and that includes Opie. At this point, it's a throw-in. It's the free keychain of radio shows.

SiriusXM are really stingy when it comes to paying large amounts of money

Umm, they're the exact opposite. They throw a shit ton of money at any recognizable name to beef up their channels. They've been criticized for THAT business model. O&A got millions thrown at them because "18-45 male demographic". They weren't going to get paid that much anywhere else, so the contracts weren't even negotiable. Take our charity or leave.

This time they'll just let O&J walk imo, the last extension was after only 3 months as O&J so they gave them time, but they haven't made any ground as a brand since then. Jimmy acts like the show doesn't even exist when he's doing his own thing. He never presents himself as "Jim Norton from Opie & Jim". I can't think of another situation like that.

Yes.

FOOKIN PRAWNS

what about apartheid?

Opie is not needed in any way. If they're smart, they'll move on with someone like Soder and make him the new face of the channel. Maybe can continue his doc show Wednesdays at 9pm on Soder Raqio

"If they're smart"

And this is how I know Opie will get another contract with them.

It feels like they don't even know O&A is on.

Do people forget that Fez was being paid by these guys for years even though he literally could not have possibly been worse at his job? They'll be fine. Absolutely irrelevant, but still fine.

Sirius would be nuts to offer Opie anything but a brutal raping after the current deal expires. Opie has no legit place to go and zero leverage. I doubt there will be any last minute deal signatures for the Opester anymore.

Depends on whether Howard Stern re-signs. If not, then he will have a much larger audience ... if he can keep it. If Howard re-signs, then there will be no more $$ to give Opie another taste.

but he hates himself far too much

How do you know this?

The same way we all do. Listen it the show you dumbass. He sounds like he's had his balls removed as well as his hair.

But I would suggest that there is no such evidence and that the only reason you think Jim Norton hates himself is that you and the rest of these bozos are just immature enough to imagine that he exists solely for the purpose of doing a show that you like (therefore if he doesn't, then how could he possibly feel anything but loathing for himself and all that he has come to, etc).

Yours is not what I would call excellent thinking.

It's not even what I would call thinking. Try again.

Tool

Of course that's why he exists.......to us! He only exists through the show. That's the crux of this sub you amnesia suffering turd weasel face. Everything here is seen through that context. You pontificate with about as much authority as that plucked worm.

Good day!

So what you're saying is that this is your fantasy and you're sticking to it.

That's first rate . . . you child.

Yeah this guy's a loser right fat fuck?

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A lot of what you're referencing is from 10 or so years ago. I think everyone has moments of hating themselves or feeling like an idiot, and Jim used those times for bits on the show. But honestly, I dont think those were a big part of him. He's really doing much better now as well, especially with the weight loss.

that sounds like some fan fic bro

You sound like a fat fuck bro

shit how do you know

Everyone knows.

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If his twitter numbers are anything to go by...

Get a job. Scott Shannon is I think #2 in NYC. He's been on twitter for quite a while now, he tweets regularly. He has 3752 followers.

We don't know how the show is doing. According to Opie it's doing great. Who knows. Obviously they have lost many hard core listeners, but on the other hand I think the show is more approachable now. SXM is growing. The show is probably growing too.

SXM is growing

Honest question, is this all just new cars sitting on dealer lots? The service is awful and I only suffered through it for O&A and later R&F. I find 0 value in the rest of the channels. The app is appallingly bad. They charge more than Spotify for music, and Spotify lets you play exactly what you want to listen to. The service isn't even close to being worth 13/month.

Honest question, is this all just new cars sitting on dealer lots?

No.

They actually have 23.4 million self-pay customers (up 1.6 million from 2014).

Sirius XM has several "categories" of subscribers. Some are counted in the overall number and some are not. Depending on how a deal with an auto partner is structured, a promotional subscription may or may not be counted. The easiest way to understand this is by breaking the promotional category down to two components, "Paid Promotional," and "Unpaid Promotional."

Paid promotional subscribers are promotional subscriptions that are included with a new car which Sirius XM receives a payment from the car manufacturer. With an unpaid promotion the subscriber is not counted even though they are enjoying the service.

Both paid and unpaid promotions are consumers that will be faced with a choice at some point. That choice being whether or not to become a self-paying subscriber. If a paid promotional subscriber keeps the service they simply remain counted in the subscriber totals. If they elect to cancel the service they are not counted in churn but rather deactivations. An unpaid promotional subscriber gets the same choice. If they keep the service they are now counted for the first time. If they do not keep the service they are not counted as churn or as a deactivation.

Sirus will just keep the show going for another 2 years and then another 2 years after that. Without having to pay Anthony the show is way cheaper to renew. Even if they hire a third mic like Sherrod it would come at a lower cost.

Seems like they have that gig as long as Sirius is still in business which should be for another 10+ years until broadband hits the more rual areas of the country.

Not for anything close to the money he gets now. The past year could really not have gone much worse for everyone involved

Maybe they'll bring back Anthony. .....a girl can dream.

Would it even be good? The shows leading up to Ant's firing were basically the same as Opie's and Ant's shows smashed together, it was a lot of droning race talk and Opie just being his awful self. I think they're through the looking glass at this point, if they got back together it would still be awful. Jimmy is becoming more insufferable too, fucking inchworm having the same shallow opinions for years and acting like they're interesting, defending hypocrites when it suits him and shouting about them when he wants to seem important.

I still contend that O&A on their worst day was still more enjoyable than either show they're doing now. At least Opie could keep Ant's race rants to an hour, and Ant and Jim would at least try to make the topics Opie brought to the show funny. Either way it's a moot point because I don't see them bringing Anthony back, especially after what he's been doing lately. If they did bring the show back to replace Howard they would have to keep it quiet or the SJWs would be right back to talk about the race rants Ant has been doing for years (especially now) which defeats the entire purpose. We blamed SXM at first, and while they share some of it, Ant should've known better and still thinks he did the right thing.

WHY THE FUCK DO I STILL CARE ENOUGH ABOUT THIS DUMB RADIO SHOW TO POST THIS.

We all have the same problem. It's in the DSM IV

If his twitter numbers are anything to go by - I doubt most of the people listening to SiriusXM even care about Twitter. Most people are sitting in traffic, driving trucks or driving all day. I know 3 people that listen to SiriusXM, 2 of them just for music, and only 1 if them has twitter. I think the show is doing good otherwise, why expand Sam Roberts, Nagel, racewars, etc.

Look at djwhookid and shade45 on twitter. They tell the audience the hashtags and they tweet it as they're listening. They're doing great

Fair enough... At the same time Bennington kills it on Twitter. Guess just a different audience. I'll listen to Sam Roberts at 12 and totally forget about Bennington though.

Let's say that half the listeners remain to tune into the present day abomination, mostly due to habit. SiriusXM doesn't care about ratings or listeners. That's why Stern makes the big bucks despite the massive decline in listeners. The only way O&J ends if people avoid Norton's standup shows. That is the real tangible evidence that the audience is gone, and Jimmy will take it seriously. If people truly give a sh!t, they will stop attending shows and supporting Jimmy. If he then doesn't renew in 14 months, then you have a chance at Anthony + Jim. Opie is growing a network in desperation to compete with Anthony and to give Sirius a reason to keep him around if Jimmy walks next year.

...if people stopped going to his shows, he'd need to cling to Sirus more then ever.

Sirus pays him to show up, it's not a charity that Jim Norton selflessly volunteers for. Well the co-staring with Opie part is, but you get my main point.

Plus, stand up isn't something Norton just dabbles in, he IS a stand up, if people stopped showing up, he'd probably put that all on himself, and try to create new material.

Yeah, looking at Twitter numbers makes you a rube. Talk shit about the Stangels hiring, the new studio set up, the big celebrities etc but it all points to the show being something that the company wants to keep around for a long time.

They could have fired Ant and left the boys alone to see what would happen, but they've been putting a lot of resources into the show.

You really think SXM would put a ton of money into improving a failing show? Or would they just wait it out for contract negotiations and try to make them settle for much less money/not pick up the show.

Can you tell me what in SXMs past makes you think they would invest a lot of money into a failing show that they weren't planning on renewing? Just answer that. Right now you sound like a bitter baby.

And how come they never made the upgrades when Ant was there? What makes you think the Stangels aren't getting paid a lot? They could have made a lot of money going to a lot of different places, and what they get paid now will effect what they get paid at their next gig.

And I don't think Twitter likes and favs have a lot to do with it because the show is a hell of a lot more casual than it used to be. There's no O&J super fans, but they're are people who tune in every day.

Let's make a bet. $50 to me if the show is renewed this October, $50 to you if it isn't. Deal?

It's cool, I got ya.

Let's make a bet. $50 to me if the show is renewed this October, $50 to you if it isn't.

The contract isn't up until 2016.

You Opie haters are delusional. Sure, Opie is not doing well with the old die hard fans in terms of "complaining on the internet" but Sirius has 25 million subscribers. Consider how many of them want talk radio and how lazy they are to look hard for something they really love. IOW - Opie has that job as long as he wants it. For proof, look at all the shitty FM DJs thatr still have jobs and are quite well off.

Consider how many of them want talk radio

Which is pretty much nobody. I've met a lot of people who have SXM either because they got a new car or whatever else and the only reason I have ever heard they like it is for the music. Talk radio is hardly the selling point for their service.

I wasn't suggesting it is. Just that they do need talk radio and some people do listen. Even if it's 1 in 25 people that's still a million people. And because they have commercials that are broadcast country wide. That is some serious income.

And to be honest, I don't listen anymore since the show has gone to complete crap IMHO. But he doesn't need the diehards. Infact, thanks to Ant, I think he assumes he lost all of us anyway. Lots of money in safe radio and he has a family and a very good life. I wish him well but the pieces don't work for me. Thanks

Of course that's why he exists.......to us! He only exists through the show. That's the crux of this sub you amnesia suffering turd weasel face. Everything here is seen through that context. You pontificate with about as much authority as that plucked worm.

Good day!

I wasn't suggesting it is. Just that they do need talk radio and some people do listen. Even if it's 1 in 25 people that's still a million people. And because they have commercials that are broadcast country wide. That is some serious income.