I think people on this sub are way to harsh to Von. I know this sub is hostile towards pretty much everybody but I'm pretty sure Patrice genuinely loved her and wanted her and the kid to be taken care of when he was gone. But then again I am just wildly speculating.
I don't see how she is profiting from this. Nobody has stopped anybody else from making a movie about this guy everyone admires and misses. Not one person, for all the bitching about the costs and how nobody here recognizes the name of the director as if they're all fucking industry insiders.
She's making a movie about someone she cares about and who was closer to than anyone here. Nobody else is doing it, but everyone wishes he had more mainstream recognition and status. Well this is how you do it. This is how you get other people to give a shit. If this works, it could breathe new life into him and put him on that next level.
I just want to know how people would prefer she do this. What is the correct method that she isn't utilizing? Is she not allowed to make an attempt? Do they want someone else to do promotion for it? Should she hire someone to go to these interviews to drum up interest, would that make everyone feel better?
The money they are asking for is the standard amount for a documentary, there's no crazy profit being made here. She's not milking the fans because for all the shit we talk about the industry we couldn't even get the Kickstarter to meet its goal and get this thing out there. This thing that could conceivably stand out amidst the current bullshit PC culture we bitch about on here every single day. No, we couldn't do that, all we can do is bitch about the person trying to put it together like Anthony Cumia bitching about Bill Burr.
i cringe when i see the part of the video when the director comes on and he name drops chris rock, larry david and jim carrey because its soo obvious they asked him to do it like that haha like poor guy obvious wouldn't have said it like that
Every doc is when it starts. There is no script for a documentary. You literally get cameras and start filming. Kevin Pollack said the exact same thing this past week about Misery Loves Comedy. He didn't have a "story" until he put the footage together and edited it. This is how every documentary is put together.
It will put him on the next level by having a well-shot, professional piece to put out there (possibly on Netflix, possibly somewhere else) that brings awareness to him. How the fuck do you think it's going to work? As of right now there's one comedy special, some shitty YouTube clips, and O&A. That's it. People always talk him up about how great he was and how his personality was anti-PC and how good his points were, well this is how you package it. This is how you do it. This is how everybody else does it and it's not that complicated. If you don't wanna donate then don't, but don't act like it is somehow against you and your sensibilities that she is seeking funding.
She is no Kevin Pollack and didn't align herself with anyone like Kevin did. As for the "next level," what exactly do you think this will do for a dead guy? Do you think Netflix will buy his past specials now that an amateur documentary is out? Do you think that this documentary will do more for him than what Jim, Colin, OnA, etc, etc tried to do for him over the years? I think you're being silly if you think that this documentary will put him over the top and anyone will care about him more after it's released. For 125k, Louis could've funded this with the money from a weekend, but he didn't. Doesn't that tell you everything you need to know about it?
She is no Kevin Pollack and didn't align herself with anyone like Kevin did.
She aligned herself with a team, the team that is producing it. That is all you need to do a documentary. This is how documentaries are made. I don't know what you are expecting.
Do you think Netflix will buy his past specials now that an amateur documentary is out?
Yes, why wouldn't they? They can have the documentary and the special, this is not unheard of and I don't know why you think it is. Your objections seem to hinge on you having some insider information that I promise you don't have.
Do you think that this documentary will do more for him than what Jim, Colin, OnA, etc, etc tried to do for him over the years?
Yeah, it could. Why not? What special information do you have that nobody else does?
I think you're being silly if you think that this documentary will put him over the top and anyone will care about him more after it's released.
Based on what? This is what documentaries do, they take information that is too spread out and gathers it together in one package. Seriously, have you seen a documentary? They are explicitly made to bring awareness to a wide audience. It works especially well for dead comedians because it's a total retrospective.
For 125k, Louis could've funded this with the money from a weekend, but he didn't. Doesn't that tell you everything you need to know about it?
No, it tells me absolutely nothing. Again, here's your weird insider information you're trying to claim; why do you assume Louis isn't involved? Why do you assume there won't be backers outside of the Kickstarter? We know there will be at least one, why are you determined to make shit up to discredit this attempt?
Patrice is not some unknown person from the Philippines, he was a big comedian who made enemies. If he was going to be a star, he would have been one when he was alive. Do you think Netflix execs are now going to say, "wow, I've never heard of this guy, but this documentary makes me want to buy all his stuff." As for the project being unorganized, Von admitted as much. As for Louis and other comedians who loved him not funding it, yes, that tells me a lot. Even if they didn't want to fund it, they would be tweeting about it and promoting it more, but they don't want to be attached to it and she's pissed about that. No need for insider information, to see that.
Patrice is not some unknown person from the Philippines, he was a big comedian who made enemies. If he was going to be a star, he would have been one when he was alive.
That makes absolutely no sense, you said if he was going to be famous it would be when he was alive, and then you said he made enemies. You perfectly explained why the documentary will work; because it is not reliant on his enemies giving him breaks, it is packaging him and his legacy for a completely different audience.
Do you think Netflix execs are now going to say, "wow, I've never heard of this guy, but this documentary makes me want to buy all his stuff."
Unless he burned a bridge with Netflix, they will probably see that their comedian-related things have been going very well and if it's a well-produced documentary they could give it a shot. Are you a Netflix executive? Why do you keep saying this shit like you an read their minds? He never burned any bridges with Netflix, either. You are making shit up again.
As for the project being unorganized, Von admitted as much.
All film projects are to start, especially documentaries. Difference is you rarely get interviews with documentary filmmakers before they start.
As for Louis and other comedians who loved him not funding it, yes, that tells me a lot.
No, you're not paying attention. What I am saying is you have no proof they're not involved. There is no reason to assume Louis rejected an offer to fund it, there's no reason to believe anyone isn't investing. She went on record and said the Kickstarter was just to get the fans involved, she has said they will get funding other ways as well, including Opie.
And here's another thing, if Louis didn't want to do it, who gives a fuck? He doesn't promote Colin Quinn's shit either and it's great, he never promotes anyone he endorses, do you know who these fucking people are? Are you new?
Von, is that you? Patrice wasn't an A-lister, but he is not unknown and people knew what he was about. If Netflix wanted to work with him, they could've. Why do you think an indie documentary will turn them on to him when all his appearances on all the other shows didnt? Netflix and other media companies have people whose sole job is to find new talent - they knew about Patrice and if they decide to throw von 30k to put the doc on their platform, that's great. The proof that I have that Louis and other comedians aren't involved, came from Von's mouth and the funding on the site. She mentioned that his friends weren't helping to promote the doc. I guess I do have "inside info" since I listened to her interview. Louis doesn't need to promote Colin. He promoted a bunch of other people's specials, like Tig Notaro. He clearly doesn't want to be involved in this. No inside info needed. Thanks for your time.
Patrice wasn't an A-lister, but he is not unknown and people knew what he was about. If Netflix wanted to work with him, they could've.
Unfortunately he died before Netflix got into their Comedian kick that they are right now. You know he died a few years ago, right? Netflix loves getting specials from these middle-class comedy dudes and putting them out. That is why they have no Chris Rock or Louis CK or Seinfeld, those guys are taken care of. They love Jay Mohr and Jim Jeffries, he is the exact level they would like to get behind.
Why do you think an indie documentary will turn them on to him when all his appearances on all the other shows didnt?
What other shows? The Office? Furry Vengeance?
Netflix and other media companies have people whose sole job is to find new talent - they knew about Patrice and if they decide to throw von 30k to put the doc on their platform, that's great.
Theya re not doing it for him. They are doing it for the product. If the product is good, and they film it in a way that makes him socially relevant, it can do what he couldn't do. That is the point. See you don't even know what you're trying to say anymore, you say he burned bridges but if people wanted to work with him they could? No, they wouldn't, cause he burned bridges. But buying and distributing this doc isn't working with him, it is co-signing a product and the product, so far, you have yet to prove will be a failure besides trying to play armchair executive and assume Louis CK isn't involved based on absolutely no information at all.
And even if he's not involved, why is this "milking his fans?" Why is her trying to do this project corrupt or manipulative? Why is the attempt so bad for some people?
Louis doesn't need to promote Colin. He promoted a bunch of other people's specials, like Tig Notaro.
He promoted those because he helped fund them and sold them through his site. Just because Louis CK is not solely producing this documentary doesn't mean he won't be involved. Again, assumptions based on nothing.
No inside info needed. Thanks for your time.
You're welcome, Netflix Executive and Friend to Louis CK. And please don't do that little Reddit thing where you try to end the conversation but then come back with more responses.
"Milk" the fans how? Asking for money to fund a project? If you don't wanna donate then don't donate. There are fans who want to see this, nobody is trying to milk you if you're not a fan and don't want to voluntarily donate, and if you're not a fan then you have nothing to bitch about. She is offering an option for people who want to see a project made. If you don't like that then go take on the entirety of Kickstarter and IndieGoGo.
Really, I don't know what the situation is, I haven't looked into it, so I keep my mouth shut.
But, in honor of Patrice, I'm going to do the opposite. Isn't Von married to someone well off now? Does Patrice's mom get as much money as Von? Okay, I'm done.
If he wanted her and the kid taken care of when he was gone he could have planned for it when he was alive. It's not like he didn't have known health issues.
I understand the skepticism about the documentary but I don't see the harm in telling Patrice's story for people who didn't know his material as well as we do. Besides, if it does well, that's money in his stepdaughter's college fund.
You don't have to donate but I don't understand the level of vitriol that's being put towards the doc.
I don't understand the level of vitriol that's being put towards the doc.
It's being put together by a team of nobodies, who we have never heard of, and have no reason to trust that they will use the money to do a decent job.
Usually when someone dies and they start having an annual event in their name, it's for a charity or a college fund or something. Has that ever been specified? I was at the third Patrice Benefit and during the show I started thinking where the money was going. Like, is it still just going to family for the third consecutive year? I understand people are hurting when the breadwinner dies, but how long are people going to keep giving money for benefits, movies, etc?
Even on this brutally evil subreddit, people get crucified for asking where the money goes. It goes directly to Von and Patrice's mother, with the reasoning that Patrice supported them and now they have "nothing". Nobody would bat an eye about a benefit or two to help a family out after a death, but the whole yearly comedy show with all the money going toward "whatever" sits a bit weird with me.
Especially with such a preventable death. This wasn't a car accident, this wasn't a murder. A funny guy didn't stop eating like shit and now comedy fans pay for his mother and girlfriend's living expenses indefinitely.
I don't like Von or her panhandling, but with the annual benefit you're paying for a comedy show and the money goes to Patrice's family instead of the comedians performing. I don't really have a problem with that.
This happens in every profession where the main source of income is day to day performances, and sometimes for a lot less than a death. Stop whining, no one is forcing you to pay out money, and the other guys are more than happy to do the benefit.
bill burr said after the most recent benefit that every dollar after paying to rent the venue has directly gone toward setting up patrice's mother in a nice condo or town house or whatever it was, this is coming from the guy who rails against what a sham breast cancer month in the NFL is cause of how much money gets misappropriated... jesus you guys are fucking relentless man, do you really see bill burr and all those other comedians using the money for something as important as that for anything other than what they say its being used for?
If you're getting a comedy show with great comedians, I don't see the harm in a yearly benefit. I just have a feeling that in the next few years, it'll be BILL BURR presents Keith Robinson's Patrice O'Neal benefit. Starring, Damon Wayans 4th, Jamal Rock (Chris' 8th cousin), Bailey Jay and Rich Vos.
Burr or Jimmy said that because of the benefit, Patrice's mother was able to move to North or South Carolina and buy a beautiful house. Von doesn't have a job and makes ends meet, so that's where the money is going.
I really don't know what to think. She admitted today that there was not even any structure to the film today, they're collecting funding without even having a plan in place.
I don't know who the director is but I remember someone here saying that one of the producers was an air hostess. So this could turn out terribly, maybe even worse than Women Aren't Funny.
Jimmy sounded a bit annoyed with her today, I don't know if anyone else picked up on that.
If it even turns out at all. They've collected around seventy thousand dollars and don't even have a working script in place. That's psychotic, scamming behavior. I never trust these things were you give money without getting a guaranteed form of product along with the possibility of a full refund if you are not satisfied with the lesser offering. Fuck giving money to people who have no incentive to put the product out. This is a SCAM.
It's the fact that there are basically no details available or even being offered. Who are the people she's working with, and how did she get involved with them? They didn't even mention anything the director had worked on before, has he ever directed?
It seems like it would be more likely that she got involved with some scammers who saw that they could take advantage of Patrice's legacy rather than her trying to scam people for money.
Especially when they've been e-begging for this documentary for how long now? It feels like months. I understand a script isn't going to be 100 percent done before they even get funding, and the documentary will likely change a lot as it happens, but to not even have some rough idea of what they want to do presented to the public after they've talked about this for months and solicited 70,000 dollars for it is absurd.
I've had it with her, honestly. Enough with this bullshit. I could see if it was 8 months after he was dead, but 3 and 4 years later? This is fucking ridiculous. Doesn't she already live with another guy? Bill Burr should produce a fucking Patrice documentary, not Patrice's "boo."
She admitted today that there was not even any structure to the film today, they're collecting funding without even having a plan in place.
Nobody does when they start. Kevin Pollack this week on the show said he didn't have a story when he started Misery Loves Comedy, it evolves as you go.
If that's true, its totally a scam. Whether she thinks it is and its premeditated or not, its scamming people. If there's no plan in place, they'll just burn through that money and it'll never finish, no matter what. So its a giant waste of people's money, and there will not be a finished product. Anything like this needs a plan, script/outline/storyboard, something. Provided they actually proceed, and don't just take the money and run.
And the type of funding they're getting means they don't have to give it back, if memory serves me correctly.
This sub is so hot and cold. Sometimes I comment about how Von bothers me and people downvote me saying they were in love and I know nothing bla bla. Then a post like this gets upvoted and agreed with.
No one knows who Patrice was outside of a very closed circle of people. If this were done maybe a month after his death, maybe it would become something. To me, it is over and whoever is involved in it is just scraping a few bucks off his memory.
He died going on 4 years ago. Let it go. I love the guy and his humor, but he was never big enough to warrant this.
She seems very nice and decent when interviewed but if you've ever read her Twitter, oh Lord. She is a meaningless platitude spewing machine. In a way it's kinda touching because she really was made for a guy like Patrice, somebody who is not afraid to call her on her shit. She really seems to need that.
I donated for the coffee mug deal thing. Partly because I get a mug, and partly because I think it's embarrassing something Patrice is attached to is doing so poorly.
I'd of thought with all the contacts Patrice had they'd of been able to fix up a talented person to help her with the doc? She seemed pissed at some people for not doing lots to help promote/retweet the doc so seems like there is some behind the scenes pushing against her plans?
This in interesting. There were a few production companies Patrice was involved with and had ties with that have money and you'd think would be interested in producing a Patrice doc. I wonder if she tried that route first, or if she went this way first.
I'm sure there were plenty of people who didn't like Patrice because he was abrasive. The same people probably don't think there's a need to do a documentary on him.
I posted the same question on the TACS sub a few weeks ago. No answer. The film won't be made and fans have lost their money on the promise they can watch with Ant or go to the O&J studjo.
I'm calling it now. This documentary will suck ass. It will be the most self-absorbed, Patrice O'Neal ballwashing you've ever seen and I picture the same shitty production woman aren't funny had. This von bitch is just terrible.
It's kind of hard to respect Von for exploiting Patrice like this. It's obvious she was with him because he was a semi-star. No self-respecting woman would sit there and listen to her boyfriend and her friends talk about him eating out and using dildos on hookers in Brazil, over and over again.
If it even turns out at all. They've collected around seventy thousand dollars and don't even have a working script in place. That's psychotic, scamming behavior. I never trust these things were you give money without getting a guaranteed form of product along with the possibility of a full refund if you are not satisfied with the lesser offering. Fuck giving money to people who have no incentive to put the product out. This is a SCAM.
If that's true, its totally a scam. Whether she thinks it is and its premeditated or not, its scamming people. If there's no plan in place, they'll just burn through that money and it'll never finish, no matter what. So its a giant waste of people's money, and there will not be a finished product. Anything like this needs a plan, script/outline/storyboard, something. Provided they actually proceed, and don't just take the money and run.
And the type of funding they're getting means they don't have to give it back, if memory serves me correctly.
She admitted today that there was not even any structure to the film today, they're collecting funding without even having a plan in place.
Nobody does when they start. Kevin Pollack this week on the show said he didn't have a story when he started Misery Loves Comedy, it evolves as you go.
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50 janedoe2893 2015-04-27
Her professional widowing has made me dislike her.
0 EskimoEscrow 2015-04-27
Oh no... she's a black Yoko
42 AntsCamera 2015-04-27
I love Patrice but I am disgusted by her. Patrice would be disgusted by this fucking pity display she is putting on.
"Bitch we wasn't married, stop pulling maggots off my corpse and selling them on E-bay ya cunt"
6 dazwah 2015-04-27
I read that perfectly in Patrice's voice. Amazing.
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-7 OnA_subreddit 2015-04-27
ERRRRGHH HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT PATRICE WOULD HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT HER ERRRRGHH
13 AntsCamera 2015-04-27
HOLD ON, HOLD ON.
The phones are lit.
Chuck, what you got for us?
5 really-wise_-things 2015-04-27
Snowy?
1 Weirdfellas 2015-04-27
"Hi, it's Lady Di."
1 really-wise_-things 2015-04-27
Ha. Does Lady Di still call?
8 stinkskc 2015-04-27
they call her and pretend that she called
1 really-wise_-things 2015-04-27
Oh, Opie. Your bits are so clever.
23 Bomyknocka 2015-04-27
I think people on this sub are way to harsh to Von. I know this sub is hostile towards pretty much everybody but I'm pretty sure Patrice genuinely loved her and wanted her and the kid to be taken care of when he was gone. But then again I am just wildly speculating.
7 dochattan 2015-04-27
Of course Patrice wanted the best for her, I doubt that meant using his death for profit.
15 TriangleDimes 2015-04-27
I don't see how she is profiting from this. Nobody has stopped anybody else from making a movie about this guy everyone admires and misses. Not one person, for all the bitching about the costs and how nobody here recognizes the name of the director as if they're all fucking industry insiders.
She's making a movie about someone she cares about and who was closer to than anyone here. Nobody else is doing it, but everyone wishes he had more mainstream recognition and status. Well this is how you do it. This is how you get other people to give a shit. If this works, it could breathe new life into him and put him on that next level.
I just want to know how people would prefer she do this. What is the correct method that she isn't utilizing? Is she not allowed to make an attempt? Do they want someone else to do promotion for it? Should she hire someone to go to these interviews to drum up interest, would that make everyone feel better?
The money they are asking for is the standard amount for a documentary, there's no crazy profit being made here. She's not milking the fans because for all the shit we talk about the industry we couldn't even get the Kickstarter to meet its goal and get this thing out there. This thing that could conceivably stand out amidst the current bullshit PC culture we bitch about on here every single day. No, we couldn't do that, all we can do is bitch about the person trying to put it together like Anthony Cumia bitching about Bill Burr.
4 tapatiomio 2015-04-27
Well said.
1 chippersan 2015-04-27
i cringe when i see the part of the video when the director comes on and he name drops chris rock, larry david and jim carrey because its soo obvious they asked him to do it like that haha like poor guy obvious wouldn't have said it like that
1 kevin121312 2015-04-27
She doesn't have any plans in place for the doc and it's totally unorganized. He's also dead, so how will this put him on the next level?
1 TriangleDimes 2015-04-27
Every doc is when it starts. There is no script for a documentary. You literally get cameras and start filming. Kevin Pollack said the exact same thing this past week about Misery Loves Comedy. He didn't have a "story" until he put the footage together and edited it. This is how every documentary is put together.
It will put him on the next level by having a well-shot, professional piece to put out there (possibly on Netflix, possibly somewhere else) that brings awareness to him. How the fuck do you think it's going to work? As of right now there's one comedy special, some shitty YouTube clips, and O&A. That's it. People always talk him up about how great he was and how his personality was anti-PC and how good his points were, well this is how you package it. This is how you do it. This is how everybody else does it and it's not that complicated. If you don't wanna donate then don't, but don't act like it is somehow against you and your sensibilities that she is seeking funding.
1 kevin121312 2015-04-27
She is no Kevin Pollack and didn't align herself with anyone like Kevin did. As for the "next level," what exactly do you think this will do for a dead guy? Do you think Netflix will buy his past specials now that an amateur documentary is out? Do you think that this documentary will do more for him than what Jim, Colin, OnA, etc, etc tried to do for him over the years? I think you're being silly if you think that this documentary will put him over the top and anyone will care about him more after it's released. For 125k, Louis could've funded this with the money from a weekend, but he didn't. Doesn't that tell you everything you need to know about it?
1 TriangleDimes 2015-04-27
She aligned herself with a team, the team that is producing it. That is all you need to do a documentary. This is how documentaries are made. I don't know what you are expecting.
Yes, why wouldn't they? They can have the documentary and the special, this is not unheard of and I don't know why you think it is. Your objections seem to hinge on you having some insider information that I promise you don't have.
Yeah, it could. Why not? What special information do you have that nobody else does?
Based on what? This is what documentaries do, they take information that is too spread out and gathers it together in one package. Seriously, have you seen a documentary? They are explicitly made to bring awareness to a wide audience. It works especially well for dead comedians because it's a total retrospective.
No, it tells me absolutely nothing. Again, here's your weird insider information you're trying to claim; why do you assume Louis isn't involved? Why do you assume there won't be backers outside of the Kickstarter? We know there will be at least one, why are you determined to make shit up to discredit this attempt?
1 kevin121312 2015-04-27
Patrice is not some unknown person from the Philippines, he was a big comedian who made enemies. If he was going to be a star, he would have been one when he was alive. Do you think Netflix execs are now going to say, "wow, I've never heard of this guy, but this documentary makes me want to buy all his stuff." As for the project being unorganized, Von admitted as much. As for Louis and other comedians who loved him not funding it, yes, that tells me a lot. Even if they didn't want to fund it, they would be tweeting about it and promoting it more, but they don't want to be attached to it and she's pissed about that. No need for insider information, to see that.
1 TriangleDimes 2015-04-27
That makes absolutely no sense, you said if he was going to be famous it would be when he was alive, and then you said he made enemies. You perfectly explained why the documentary will work; because it is not reliant on his enemies giving him breaks, it is packaging him and his legacy for a completely different audience.
Unless he burned a bridge with Netflix, they will probably see that their comedian-related things have been going very well and if it's a well-produced documentary they could give it a shot. Are you a Netflix executive? Why do you keep saying this shit like you an read their minds? He never burned any bridges with Netflix, either. You are making shit up again.
All film projects are to start, especially documentaries. Difference is you rarely get interviews with documentary filmmakers before they start.
No, you're not paying attention. What I am saying is you have no proof they're not involved. There is no reason to assume Louis rejected an offer to fund it, there's no reason to believe anyone isn't investing. She went on record and said the Kickstarter was just to get the fans involved, she has said they will get funding other ways as well, including Opie.
And here's another thing, if Louis didn't want to do it, who gives a fuck? He doesn't promote Colin Quinn's shit either and it's great, he never promotes anyone he endorses, do you know who these fucking people are? Are you new?
1 kevin121312 2015-04-27
Von, is that you? Patrice wasn't an A-lister, but he is not unknown and people knew what he was about. If Netflix wanted to work with him, they could've. Why do you think an indie documentary will turn them on to him when all his appearances on all the other shows didnt? Netflix and other media companies have people whose sole job is to find new talent - they knew about Patrice and if they decide to throw von 30k to put the doc on their platform, that's great. The proof that I have that Louis and other comedians aren't involved, came from Von's mouth and the funding on the site. She mentioned that his friends weren't helping to promote the doc. I guess I do have "inside info" since I listened to her interview. Louis doesn't need to promote Colin. He promoted a bunch of other people's specials, like Tig Notaro. He clearly doesn't want to be involved in this. No inside info needed. Thanks for your time.
1 TriangleDimes 2015-04-27
Unfortunately he died before Netflix got into their Comedian kick that they are right now. You know he died a few years ago, right? Netflix loves getting specials from these middle-class comedy dudes and putting them out. That is why they have no Chris Rock or Louis CK or Seinfeld, those guys are taken care of. They love Jay Mohr and Jim Jeffries, he is the exact level they would like to get behind.
What other shows? The Office? Furry Vengeance?
Theya re not doing it for him. They are doing it for the product. If the product is good, and they film it in a way that makes him socially relevant, it can do what he couldn't do. That is the point. See you don't even know what you're trying to say anymore, you say he burned bridges but if people wanted to work with him they could? No, they wouldn't, cause he burned bridges. But buying and distributing this doc isn't working with him, it is co-signing a product and the product, so far, you have yet to prove will be a failure besides trying to play armchair executive and assume Louis CK isn't involved based on absolutely no information at all.
And even if he's not involved, why is this "milking his fans?" Why is her trying to do this project corrupt or manipulative? Why is the attempt so bad for some people?
He promoted those because he helped fund them and sold them through his site. Just because Louis CK is not solely producing this documentary doesn't mean he won't be involved. Again, assumptions based on nothing.
You're welcome, Netflix Executive and Friend to Louis CK. And please don't do that little Reddit thing where you try to end the conversation but then come back with more responses.
1 kevin121312 2015-04-27
I see that you're either trolling or uninformed. You don't have the inside info that I have. Thanks for your time.
1 TriangleDimes 2015-04-27
In a move surprising nobody...
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1 TriangleDimes 2015-04-27
"Milk" the fans how? Asking for money to fund a project? If you don't wanna donate then don't donate. There are fans who want to see this, nobody is trying to milk you if you're not a fan and don't want to voluntarily donate, and if you're not a fan then you have nothing to bitch about. She is offering an option for people who want to see a project made. If you don't like that then go take on the entirety of Kickstarter and IndieGoGo.
3 kevin121312 2015-04-27
If you want to ride a dead guy's coattails, while you're dating other guys, you have to deal with this shit.
2 breadmoccasin 2015-04-27
Really, I don't know what the situation is, I haven't looked into it, so I keep my mouth shut.
But, in honor of Patrice, I'm going to do the opposite. Isn't Von married to someone well off now? Does Patrice's mom get as much money as Von? Okay, I'm done.
1 Bomyknocka 2015-04-27
I didn't know she remarried. If it's true that's the case then she can go take a running jump for all I care (sorry for the harsh phrasing)
1 HardNutKicker 2015-04-27
She's not married, at least that's what she said yesterday.
1 brstevens 2015-04-27
If he wanted her and the kid taken care of when he was gone he could have planned for it when he was alive. It's not like he didn't have known health issues.
13 I-take-beast-shits 2015-04-27
Not only is she a leach, but she's incredibly untalented too.
6 really-wise_-things 2015-04-27
I bet she'd feel good on top of your pecker though.
1 EskimoEscrow 2015-04-27
tsss yaa me too... i betcha got a big jucy one also.. ts..
10 NickCarpinelli 2015-04-27
I understand the skepticism about the documentary but I don't see the harm in telling Patrice's story for people who didn't know his material as well as we do. Besides, if it does well, that's money in his stepdaughter's college fund.
You don't have to donate but I don't understand the level of vitriol that's being put towards the doc.
1 DuckSpeaker_ 2015-04-27
It's being put together by a team of nobodies, who we have never heard of, and have no reason to trust that they will use the money to do a decent job.
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-6 RatherPleasent 2015-04-27
Shut Uuuuuuup
10 imcreggschinkell 2015-04-27
Bitch got a fivehead
-11 nointernetforyou 2015-04-27
I'm 32 and laughed way too hard at this.
10 DeRosas_livelihood 2015-04-27
Usually when someone dies and they start having an annual event in their name, it's for a charity or a college fund or something. Has that ever been specified? I was at the third Patrice Benefit and during the show I started thinking where the money was going. Like, is it still just going to family for the third consecutive year? I understand people are hurting when the breadwinner dies, but how long are people going to keep giving money for benefits, movies, etc?
18 dankfranklin 2015-04-27
Even on this brutally evil subreddit, people get crucified for asking where the money goes. It goes directly to Von and Patrice's mother, with the reasoning that Patrice supported them and now they have "nothing". Nobody would bat an eye about a benefit or two to help a family out after a death, but the whole yearly comedy show with all the money going toward "whatever" sits a bit weird with me.
Especially with such a preventable death. This wasn't a car accident, this wasn't a murder. A funny guy didn't stop eating like shit and now comedy fans pay for his mother and girlfriend's living expenses indefinitely.
13 GoToBreakChippah 2015-04-27
I don't like Von or her panhandling, but with the annual benefit you're paying for a comedy show and the money goes to Patrice's family instead of the comedians performing. I don't really have a problem with that.
3 rbz90 2015-04-27
Plus all the comedians performing seem to be OK with it so why should I give a shit?
9 LacanZizekFreud 2015-04-27
This happens in every profession where the main source of income is day to day performances, and sometimes for a lot less than a death. Stop whining, no one is forcing you to pay out money, and the other guys are more than happy to do the benefit.
-1 TriangleDimes 2015-04-27
I love how in a sub as corrupt as this, people are deciding to be self-righteous about this.
3 chippersan 2015-04-27
bill burr said after the most recent benefit that every dollar after paying to rent the venue has directly gone toward setting up patrice's mother in a nice condo or town house or whatever it was, this is coming from the guy who rails against what a sham breast cancer month in the NFL is cause of how much money gets misappropriated... jesus you guys are fucking relentless man, do you really see bill burr and all those other comedians using the money for something as important as that for anything other than what they say its being used for?
anybody who did that would get fucking crucified
1 kevin121312 2015-04-27
If you're getting a comedy show with great comedians, I don't see the harm in a yearly benefit. I just have a feeling that in the next few years, it'll be BILL BURR presents Keith Robinson's Patrice O'Neal benefit. Starring, Damon Wayans 4th, Jamal Rock (Chris' 8th cousin), Bailey Jay and Rich Vos.
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-1 FresnoJefferson 2015-04-27
they would've had nothing anyways if Patrice never existed.
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6 Louis_cks_boat 2015-04-27
this year's money went to a cali trip, von tweeted about going on a trip after the benefit, if somebody can find that itd be great
4 i_saw_nothing 2015-04-27
I'm not contributing to this topic at hand, but I just wanted to say I love your username.
1 kevin121312 2015-04-27
Burr or Jimmy said that because of the benefit, Patrice's mother was able to move to North or South Carolina and buy a beautiful house. Von doesn't have a job and makes ends meet, so that's where the money is going.
8 JohKhur 2015-04-27
shes a lovely lady and i won't stand for this
she's got huge fawkin tits and an fat ace, how do you not like her, sure shes a leach but ant's children arent any different
7 TheDarkFezRises 2015-04-27
I really don't know what to think. She admitted today that there was not even any structure to the film today, they're collecting funding without even having a plan in place.
I don't know who the director is but I remember someone here saying that one of the producers was an air hostess. So this could turn out terribly, maybe even worse than Women Aren't Funny.
Jimmy sounded a bit annoyed with her today, I don't know if anyone else picked up on that.
11 BeerCanThick 2015-04-27
If it even turns out at all. They've collected around seventy thousand dollars and don't even have a working script in place. That's psychotic, scamming behavior. I never trust these things were you give money without getting a guaranteed form of product along with the possibility of a full refund if you are not satisfied with the lesser offering. Fuck giving money to people who have no incentive to put the product out. This is a SCAM.
4 TheDarkFezRises 2015-04-27
It's the fact that there are basically no details available or even being offered. Who are the people she's working with, and how did she get involved with them? They didn't even mention anything the director had worked on before, has he ever directed?
It seems like it would be more likely that she got involved with some scammers who saw that they could take advantage of Patrice's legacy rather than her trying to scam people for money.
1 BeerCanThick 2015-04-27
Especially when they've been e-begging for this documentary for how long now? It feels like months. I understand a script isn't going to be 100 percent done before they even get funding, and the documentary will likely change a lot as it happens, but to not even have some rough idea of what they want to do presented to the public after they've talked about this for months and solicited 70,000 dollars for it is absurd.
2 Weirdfellas 2015-04-27
I've had it with her, honestly. Enough with this bullshit. I could see if it was 8 months after he was dead, but 3 and 4 years later? This is fucking ridiculous. Doesn't she already live with another guy? Bill Burr should produce a fucking Patrice documentary, not Patrice's "boo."
5 TriangleDimes 2015-04-27
Nobody does when they start. Kevin Pollack this week on the show said he didn't have a story when he started Misery Loves Comedy, it evolves as you go.
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4 _CrunchableBirdses 2015-04-27
If that's true, its totally a scam. Whether she thinks it is and its premeditated or not, its scamming people. If there's no plan in place, they'll just burn through that money and it'll never finish, no matter what. So its a giant waste of people's money, and there will not be a finished product. Anything like this needs a plan, script/outline/storyboard, something. Provided they actually proceed, and don't just take the money and run.
And the type of funding they're getting means they don't have to give it back, if memory serves me correctly.
11 MonsteRain 2015-04-27
I really hope Opie is dumb enough to dump a boatload of cash into this.
2 nointernetforyou 2015-04-27
You know he did.
6 andrewsj1 2015-04-27
This sub is so hot and cold. Sometimes I comment about how Von bothers me and people downvote me saying they were in love and I know nothing bla bla. Then a post like this gets upvoted and agreed with.
6 Lame_Username_Here 2015-04-27
anyone that gives her money is a fucking chump.
5 dankfranklin 2015-04-27
Wonder if any hour-old accounts will come and admonish us for not donating again...
4 Cypress84 2015-04-27
We should love her all she wants to do is share how great Patrice was/is considering how much we all love patrice attacking his bitch seems harsh
3 K1bbler 2015-04-27
Youtube does a far better job of this.
1 OpiesBreasts 2015-04-27
So she will be sharing it for no profit, right?
4 aria_taint 2015-04-27
If she could tour Patrice's corpse and charge $5.00 to take a picture with it she would.
3 That70smoke 2015-04-27
As ant would say there is a problem in the "widow" community, fucking leech.
3 OpiesBreasts 2015-04-27
No one knows who Patrice was outside of a very closed circle of people. If this were done maybe a month after his death, maybe it would become something. To me, it is over and whoever is involved in it is just scraping a few bucks off his memory.
He died going on 4 years ago. Let it go. I love the guy and his humor, but he was never big enough to warrant this.
2 ricardo_von_nicht 2015-04-27
Respect to the big guy, but seriously?
She come of nice when she speaks, ill give her that
3 HenryjamesHutley 2015-04-27
She has hair like Predator.
2 AntsCamera 2015-04-27
I'll donate 3 bucks for a blowy. I might even spring for a pizza afterwards, so she can eat dinner.
Dave we got any Pizza back there, I'm fucking starving?!
5 HulkHulkerson 2015-04-27
Fresh out boss
0 Blah_83 2015-04-27
She's got something of Patrice's, his nose
2 OfficialEdAsner 2015-04-27
She seems very nice and decent when interviewed but if you've ever read her Twitter, oh Lord. She is a meaningless platitude spewing machine. In a way it's kinda touching because she really was made for a guy like Patrice, somebody who is not afraid to call her on her shit. She really seems to need that.
2 lickitoff 2015-04-27
Patrice'd thank me for fucking the silly out of her.
2 stucker41 2015-04-27
She is a money grubbing grave digger.. This Patrice doc is a scam.
1 jbaconbits 2015-04-27
I donated for the coffee mug deal thing. Partly because I get a mug, and partly because I think it's embarrassing something Patrice is attached to is doing so poorly.
1 Dennyisthepisslord 2015-04-27
I'd of thought with all the contacts Patrice had they'd of been able to fix up a talented person to help her with the doc? She seemed pissed at some people for not doing lots to help promote/retweet the doc so seems like there is some behind the scenes pushing against her plans?
1 opieanthonyjim 2015-04-27
This in interesting. There were a few production companies Patrice was involved with and had ties with that have money and you'd think would be interested in producing a Patrice doc. I wonder if she tried that route first, or if she went this way first.
1 kevin121312 2015-04-27
I'm sure there were plenty of people who didn't like Patrice because he was abrasive. The same people probably don't think there's a need to do a documentary on him.
1 FresnoJefferson 2015-04-27
So if they don't raise enough money then will everyone who donated get their money back???
3 jags85 2015-04-27
I bet you were one of those "But if theres no chimney, how will Santa get in?" kids
2 GleepGlorpFloopdedoo 2015-04-27
My parents said they left the front door unlocked for Santa, but I'm starting to think that wasn't true...
3 CheetahHeels 2015-04-27
IT'S STILL REAL TO ME DAMNIT
2 cabaretcabaret 2015-04-27
A quick google says indiegogo pays out to the project if the target's not reached, whereas kickstarter return the money to the funders.
2 kevin121312 2015-04-27
that sucks for the assholes who paid 10k to go to anthony's to watch it. Yeah, I'm talking to you, Frank.
1 janedoe2893 2015-04-27
I posted the same question on the TACS sub a few weeks ago. No answer. The film won't be made and fans have lost their money on the promise they can watch with Ant or go to the O&J studjo.
1 LightBulbExpert 2015-04-27
I'd let her shit on my chest
1 TakesTheWrongSideGuy 2015-04-27
I'm calling it now. This documentary will suck ass. It will be the most self-absorbed, Patrice O'Neal ballwashing you've ever seen and I picture the same shitty production woman aren't funny had. This von bitch is just terrible.
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1 screamingmonkeys 2015-04-27
Can someone just post some pics of Von already? That's only reason I check this post every day.
1 seniorcampus 2015-04-27
just go to her twitter dummy
1 screamingmonkeys 2015-04-27
Thanks. But every time I see the post I'm thinking "new pics inside"
1 kevin121312 2015-04-27
She has one, every year-it's called the Patrice O'Neal Benefit.
1 kevin121312 2015-04-27
It's kind of hard to respect Von for exploiting Patrice like this. It's obvious she was with him because he was a semi-star. No self-respecting woman would sit there and listen to her boyfriend and her friends talk about him eating out and using dildos on hookers in Brazil, over and over again.
0 That70smoke 2015-04-27
I also just found out she has a website... Holy shit this bitch is so full of herself, she stumbled into a goldmine with Patrice.
0 FresnoJefferson 2015-04-27
she's just another hanger-on.
0 kevin121312 2015-04-27
Once the doc is made or not made and Burr is too busy to do any more benefits, she'll start banging Chris Tucker or someone like that.
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-1 blackhax 2015-04-27
Yall in here disrespecting Patrice's old chick and shit, the fuck is wrong with yall?
2 Weirdfellas 2015-04-27
Something about a "yall"?
2 AntsCamera 2015-04-27
I'll donate 3 bucks for a blowy. I might even spring for a pizza afterwards, so she can eat dinner.
Dave we got any Pizza back there, I'm fucking starving?!
11 BeerCanThick 2015-04-27
If it even turns out at all. They've collected around seventy thousand dollars and don't even have a working script in place. That's psychotic, scamming behavior. I never trust these things were you give money without getting a guaranteed form of product along with the possibility of a full refund if you are not satisfied with the lesser offering. Fuck giving money to people who have no incentive to put the product out. This is a SCAM.
4 _CrunchableBirdses 2015-04-27
If that's true, its totally a scam. Whether she thinks it is and its premeditated or not, its scamming people. If there's no plan in place, they'll just burn through that money and it'll never finish, no matter what. So its a giant waste of people's money, and there will not be a finished product. Anything like this needs a plan, script/outline/storyboard, something. Provided they actually proceed, and don't just take the money and run.
And the type of funding they're getting means they don't have to give it back, if memory serves me correctly.
5 TriangleDimes 2015-04-27
Nobody does when they start. Kevin Pollack this week on the show said he didn't have a story when he started Misery Loves Comedy, it evolves as you go.
0 EskimoEscrow 2015-04-27
Oh no... she's a black Yoko
0 Blah_83 2015-04-27
She's got something of Patrice's, his nose
3 K1bbler 2015-04-27
Youtube does a far better job of this.
1 OpiesBreasts 2015-04-27
So she will be sharing it for no profit, right?
3 HenryjamesHutley 2015-04-27
She has hair like Predator.