The non-Opie hate thread...what he said made a lot of sense today. No it wasn't perfect but I think it was honest.

3  2015-04-07 by obesityaddiction

Yeah, Opie is not as funny as Anthony...maybe not as talented in general but they did some solid shit together and genuinely made me laugh as a team.

For those who don't remember there were a lot of fans during WNEW and early XM who hated on Ant like people hate on Opie now (lobster girl, anyone?) so Ant has been a prick as well.

The truth is in the middle, period and I miss the O&A show.

Oh and Sam sucks.

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I totally agree. I jumped on the Opie hate for the very reason that he was avoiding all this for months. Now that he came out with his feelings, I am staring to move towards the middle of the whole thing again. I wish both guys would do what Jim suggested and honestly lay into themselves, because both continue to sidestep their own problems, Ant especially.

absolutely, he lied about standing up for his partner, made comments about the people who called him out...then he tells the truth when he has no other option because he has been exposed...obviously we should open our arms to Opie and forgive him for being a douche the last 9 months... Opie wanted Ant out, that is the truth!! but was scared of the backlash, if he knew it would have gone like this he wouldn't have done it...

Not saying the right moves were made, but at least to me Opie looks more human after today and that's all I can ask for.

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Legit lol

I heard Opie do a lot more admitting of mistakes he made than Ant did yesterday. 95% of Ant's mistakes fall in to "Oh that's just Ant, it's not intentional" or "well Ant did this because Opie did that". Which is compete bullshit. Two people don't go 15 years with the animosity they had without both guys being equal in the blame.

My favorite part of both of these bitchfests was Ant admitting they were lazy and mailing in the show for years. Finally one of them flat out admitted it. O&J sucks, Ant's show is a bit better but cmon lets be honest there's at least 5 other free podcasts out there much better. They needed each other so this whole situation just sucks for everyone.

Ants been open since day one, that's the difference.

Ant said yesterday "Why do I always have to be the one making the calls", meaning he feels he was the one who had to put everything back together when it got busted up. Whether or not it's true is something we'll never really know, but he certainly feels it to be true. Ant hasn't flip-flopped on that the way Opie has. In the same breath, Opie will say he's always had the best intentions in mind for the show and then say how he wanted to quit, couldn't stand being in the same room as Ant and didn't communicate the way he should have to Ant and the rest of the staff. Opie is confused and contradicts himself all the time. Ant doesn't. If that were to change, I would be open to paying Opie more credence than I have. However, Opie has done nothing up to this point to merit that.

But what calls has Ant made? Sure he said that, and then didn't elaborate at all so who knows what he was referencing and if he was even telling the truth. Is Ant really known as the one who reaches out to other people in awkward situations? Not at all. Also, Ant got himself fired, he should have most of the burden of figuring out how to fix the show he fucked up. he got himself fired, jeopardized the jobs of all the behind the scenes people he says he cares so much about, and he thinks he shouldn't be the one doing the heavy lifting to repair the show? Makes no sense to me.

Ant got fired. He didn't set out to get himself fired. That bit of nonsense today is Opie being paranoid. SiriusXM should have never been able to split the show up. The only reason they could is because Opie wanted to split the show up for a long time leading up to that. Ant said he knew nothing about Opie wanting to do that. Whether or not that is true, again, we'll probably never know. Had the show been canned, this discussion wouldn't be taking place. Either Opie and Anthony would have figured out a way to keep going and moved on together, or they would have went their separate ways respectfully. Ant felt betrayed and I can understand that. I'm sure after learning that Opie wanted to split the show, nothing could save the inevitable downfall. Losing your gig is one thing, but then learning your partner has been plotting against you for years can have an effect on one's mind.

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I don't like Anthony's show but Opie is definitely acting like a manchild and that is worse in almost every case.

"Period, end of story" (Continues talking about the same topic)

Had he been honest and addressed the show stuff that Ant brought up i'd maybe feel different. But he just cried for 2 hours about Anthony not wanting to be his friend outside of the show.

A lot of what Ant said was addressed, I don't know what you listened to. The contract stuff, the air of being the boss, the animosity between the two of them were all addressed and even had Opie saying "I was wrong" on multiple occasions. And it is so weird to feel bad that a guy you spend your whole life with isn't willing to stay for your wedding.

He stayed for half of one day of a 3 day wedding. That presumably would include the vows and a good chuck of the reception. Did he have to stay and help him clean up? First off though, having a 3 day wedding is fucking ridiculous to begin with. Unless you're in the wedding party, how long can you reasonably expect most people to stay? It was in Philadelphia so he's wanting the whole entire staff to drive down to Philly and spend 3 days sucking his dick for getting married? That's unreasonable regardless of who you are.

As for the contract stuff he said management knew that it was a bluff so how exactly does that work? If they know you're bluffing they aren't gonna cave to your demands. Ant also said that they could have had 5 year deals where after the second year is up they get a backloaded contract to increase their pay each year that they fulfill the contract through the 5th year. Opie was just wanting to let the 2 years expire and then negotiate a new deal.

Either way they'd be making more but the 2 year deal gave them no leverage. Also, with a 5 year contract they have more leverage in the case of someone getting fired. In this case they had to pay Ant for 3 months to ride out his contract after they fired him. Had they signed a 5 year deal like he wanted they would have had to pay him another 3 years including the pay increases. Because of that they probably would've put more thought into their decision rather than just sending out an email the day after this shit happened

He didn't say management knew he was bluffing, he said their agent knew. Doesn't matter if he was right right or wrong to do what he did, that's not my place to say, all I've ever wanted was for Opie to address this stuff and I felt that he did. He gave his side of things, take it or leave it.

As for the wedding thing, I'm not saying Ant had to stay for three days, but at least don't leave to go fucking gamble. That's just a spit in the face.

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Then you're an enabler. He repeatedly contradicted himself, his crying came off as phony and self serving, and acted like his twenty year depression magically cleared up like a head cold after Ant left. Insanity...

I think I'm done with the Opie hate. We got him to cry on the air. Mission accomplished. O&J can now continue off into obscurity for all I care.

He stayed for half of one day of a 3 day wedding. That presumably would include the vows and a good chuck of the reception. Did he have to stay and help him clean up? First off though, having a 3 day wedding is fucking ridiculous to begin with. Unless you're in the wedding party, how long can you reasonably expect most people to stay? It was in Philadelphia so he's wanting the whole entire staff to drive down to Philly and spend 3 days sucking his dick for getting married? That's unreasonable regardless of who you are.

As for the contract stuff he said management knew that it was a bluff so how exactly does that work? If they know you're bluffing they aren't gonna cave to your demands. Ant also said that they could have had 5 year deals where after the second year is up they get a backloaded contract to increase their pay each year that they fulfill the contract through the 5th year. Opie was just wanting to let the 2 years expire and then negotiate a new deal.

Either way they'd be making more but the 2 year deal gave them no leverage. Also, with a 5 year contract they have more leverage in the case of someone getting fired. In this case they had to pay Ant for 3 months to ride out his contract after they fired him. Had they signed a 5 year deal like he wanted they would have had to pay him another 3 years including the pay increases. Because of that they probably would've put more thought into their decision rather than just sending out an email the day after this shit happened

Legit lol