Bill Burr is like that guy from a group of college buddies who straightened himself out, stopped drinking so much, focused on being more serious about his career and finally started acting his age. When he's around his college buddies he realizes that they're acting like they never stepped foot outside the frat house; he can't relate to that, and they can't relate to him. It happens, that's life.

Good Bill Hunting

But Opie will always be there when Kenny comes to pick him up.

This is the most rational, level-headed shit I've read on this sub since Cumia got fired.

For real, fuck this guy!

See also: Louis CK.

I think both Bill and Louis's material has suffered a lot since they started morphing into Hollywood types.

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Eh, pretty much every comic has their landmark special (Burr's was probably "Let it Go" and Louis' was definitely "Chewed Up") and then they stay funny but never quite hit that high point again. Louis' show is the funniest thing on TV, so I don't miss his stand up so much. If you go back to Bill in 2005 on O&A he is pretty much the exact same guy as he is now, everyone's just listening through a hate filter now.

This is perfect. Thank you.

He only 'straightened out' because of his SJW wife taking his balls away

Edit: This was positive 6, then 0, then positive 3, now it's -2.

Make up your fucking minds

Yes they've dated and lived together for years but the second they eloped the magical marriage fairy took his nuts. No dude, it just so happens his marriage coincides with some sizeable career moves he's making.

Your post gives me hope for the future.

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Not really, no.

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In Jim's spot, as in being 2nd mic on O&J? That's a setup for failure. There's not one single person that would survive in Jim's spot between the comedy black hole that is the O&J show, and the swirling nexus of dicks that is this subreddit and the O&A fanbase.

I'm really not clear on where the myth that he's this versatile comic with crossover appeal came from

Could it be his sustained success and growing popularity over the past 10-15 years?

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Are you for real? His tours always sell out; even internationally; not to mention he's been doing a successful podcast since 2007 which touches on a wide variety of subjects -- those two things by themselves tell me that no, he would not falter miserably if put in that type of position.

You don't like him, fair enough, but don't pretend he's some middle act on his way down.

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IMO it's cause you all want to run around talking about how you "knew Burr before he blew up maaan!"

I don't think I've ever once said that, nor have I seen anyone else say that.

As for your second paragraph I don't even know how to address that, as it has zero relevance to anything I said.

Good. Burr is above that shitty fucking show

I'm sure just about every guest who's been on o&j is above that shitty fucking show.

Didn't almost everyone including Ant admit Burr reached out to Ant on a personal level a few days after his firing to no response? That doesn't sound like distancing that sounds like staying away from a subject you personally disagree with but being respectful enough to not throw a guy under the bus who helped you so much (see: Joe Derosa)

And are people here seriously bashing Burr for not wanting to be a part of a show 90% of the people here want nothing to do with except for ridicule. Does that make sense to you?

After about 20 years Bill is finally in the position where the year of Ants firing happen to coincide with the year Bill is leading up to the debut of not only 1 but 2 TV shows on Netflix and FX he is the centerpiece of.i can't blame Bill for not wanting to mess this up by saying something either for or against anthony and alienating fans either way. The Catch 22 or The Kobayashi Maru or whatever the fuck the Star Trek term is.

My post was almost identical to yours but I swear I didn't read yours first. Haha. Guess it's just common sense (I'll upvote ya)

And I'll downvote ya.

Wasn' that Kobayashi Maru an oil tanker in Gargoyles?

No he's the hot dog guy.

No,you IDIOT...he was Keyser soze's lawyer

Otoshiana Maru was the oil tanker.

I'm so happy to know that I am not alone here. Thank you.

A lot of Star Trek TNG actors did voices for Gargoyles so it wouldn't surprise me if they referenced some Star Trek in the show.

jesus christ the guy is like 50 years old and you're upset he wont do shock jock shit with a mediocre show, before he left the energy wasnt different though, he was trashing vos being the same bill, you compare that to when louie comes in and talks about his craft like a hollywood phony dropping names left and right, at least bill is still humble and can still be one of the guys, just because he doesnt want to stay for some fucking f list cam whore is perfectly reasonable.

you guys are such bitter children i guarantee if he "stood with ant" and invited him to the benefit you would be praising him about how cool and funny he is, you need to stop thinking that the OnA universe is the most important thing, it isnt. none of these guys owe anything to OnA, sure they got exposure but OnA would have been shit without the cellar comics.

faggots, the whole lot of ya

Hello, exactly.

What "names" has Louie dropped?

At least Louie makes a brilliant TV show. Burr has done nothing of any value in the last decade.

His wife does have him by the nuts, but you can't blame Burr for 'distancing himself' from Ant. Burr reached out to Ant when he got fired, and Ant is still being too much of a pussy to return the phone call. Ant won't even return Burr's call, so what is Burr supposed to do?

I like Ant way more than I like Burr, but Ant is the one being a fag in this situation.

Billy is hilarious but i dont know why how he acted on o and j or towards anthony surprises anyone. Hes always been a very distant person, and he now has a lot of money and connections to lose. I get it but at the same time...this is a conflict of interest if he wants to be a comedian primarily. Once you get to a certain point of fame you lose your freedom to go off and say whatever you want...which is precisely the thing that made bill burr great. You can see hes already at that point of self censorship and being serious business guy.

Patrice always wanted to understand where that point was.

Yep, and sadly that point is signifigantly lower in 2015 than it was just a few years ago when patrice was alive.

Having some 19 year old girl on to do random shenanigans is hacky antiquated bullshit sophomoric radio. Who cares in the age of copious porn and webcams about naked girls on the radio...so I can hear comedians and a board op's take on it? And yeah it's weird to sniff ears. Some of you shit on him as if he broke up with you, out of a weird resentment when the guy called Ant and Ant himself admitted to having his fucking manservant answer. O&J is a fucking disgrace nowadays and you act as if Burr's the one who needs to bow downwards for the sake of it instead of the show rising above the show's itch to provide shit. The webcam girl is no different than roach eggs in the context of where we are as a society, with porn everywhere.

Why do they think girls who diddle themselves/fuck on camera are these super interesting people to have as guests? steering the ship, right? lets talk to the girl who fingered herself in a library to pay for school supplies.

I've always liked Bill but I don't know what the fuck happened to him when he moved to LA. I miss conspiracy loving, mother hating Bill Burr.

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Rogans not trying to be a movie star either, hes more self employed than burr. Burrs trying to be a movie star, cartoon star etc. I'm wondering where is ck as he's really more popular than any of them and arguably more to loose.

*lose

lol rogans not trying to be a movie star? is that his excuse? he just sucks and couldnt be a movie star unless he was doing the biopic for dana white or jane goodals chimp

You're a melodramatic faggot.

You're so bitter and butthurt look at you go

This is why I never took this sub's opinion on most things seriously when they think Joe Rogan is funny.

lol rogan ballwashers dont want to admit you're right

What do you mean by Rogan raising another dude's kids?

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Yes, he has a step daughter.

He's toned it down ever since he married 2-Chainz

Have you heard his podcast recently? His conspiracies get outta control sometimes. Good ole' billy red face!

no, I used to listen but you can only listen to a guy talk to himself for so long.

Overrated underrated... Is this racist... Racist racist!

I liked it when billy read listener emails it felt like he was reading them cold so fucking hilarious

yeah I did enjoy that part. Did he stop reading emails on the show?

I'd say it's been years I have like 08-2010 on my computer Id say 2011 when he started talking about his audio equipment at the beginning of every show, and having his wife on for relationship advice. I mean he may read emails every now and then now but I enjoyed those bits. Maybe he was suspecting bullshit emails and decided to stop, it would be interesting if he had an assistant on computer like a redban or danny he could probably riff off shit easier.

He still reads emails almost every podcast, from what I remember.

Opps I don't know what I'm talkin about, but that relationship advice shit is so ducking dumb.

He still reads emails and I'm almost positive he admitted to reading emails cold, he has someone read through all the (im sure there are tons every week) bullshit emails and he has a folder of emails some time sensitive some not that he can go to at anytime.

I just don't see Burr as a Hollywood dickhead u guys do.

With Anthony, it's been well established that Burr called Anthony multiple times and Ant didn't call him back. He was proactive and Anthony blew him off. I could see why after that Burr wouldn't proactively defend Anthony (but after the firing he did a non-specific rant about how he's sick of people getting fired for opinions)

As for O&J, unless I'm misreading, a lot of you have issues that you think he thinks he outgrew the show? Guess what, so has most of the people that post here! Almost every post here is about how the show sucks now. But Burr is a Hollywood sell-out for having presumably the same opinion? Grow up

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Bill has kinda always been against what O&A were about. Listen to his 2005/2006 appearances, he straight up says his "people" told him to not do the show, and how it would adversely affect his career. He would constantly talk about walking back to his car after a show, feeling awful about what they just said/did. Obviously he stuck around because he thought the show was funny, and he loved it when it was just them bullshitting. But as soon as something "weird" would go down, even something as simple as ribbing Big A, Bill's conscious would kick in and he would audibly say that he wasn't down with it.

yeah, it's been a long time coming and none of this should be a surprise to anyone that listened that long.

I was listening to an old clip where Bill brought a schizophrenic in and they fucked with him for an hour. He did mention regret, but still he got it started. Some of the funniest O&A I ever heard. Probably funniest O&A I heard that didn't involve patrice.

This really is the most pathetic board I've ever seen in my life, anywhere.

what ever you need to tell yourself, sweetie.

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He blames O&A for the falling out he had with Patrice, even if they kinda settled it on the show the reality was that they did not speak in months after that show.

What falling out? The Mancow argument?

Yeah, I heard it on mmpc

Eh, I dunno, bill got into the bit with talking shit to janitor out on the street

Ant's relationship with Burr is Ant's fault right now. Sniffing vos' ear and talking to strippers, I would've left too. This is what happens when someone steps out of the "if everyone else was smarter they'd hand me jobs on a silver platter" pity party that Jim is the president of, and start making your own shit happen.

Sniffing vos' ear and talking to strippers

You've all changed. Sniffing vos' ear is funny and gross and talking to some hot, 19 year old slut as she gets naked is awesome.

You would have left as well? Did your wife take your balls away as well?

afraid to do anything to fuck it up

Or he's just got to a point where he's not afraid to say 'no, fuck you guys' when he genuinely doesn't want to be part of something. O&A in 2008 were his peers, he's doing Opieraqio in 2015 a favour by showing up.

When Vos was asking about who gets to deem what's offensive he shut down the convo pretty quick. Paraphrasing "I don't want to have this discussion with you."

To be fair, I wouldn't want to have that discussion with a moron either.

Out of everyone Vos made the best point in that discussion. Who's to say what is offensive? Though I can understand an airline not wanting you to board a plane with Fuck written on your top.

Sadly the discussion was never had cause Bill didn't want to go there.

Well in context, they were done with the bit and stupid Vos brought it up again.

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Thank You Vincent!

Bill reached out to Ant, maybe he just knows the show sucks now. Why are O&J still trying to recreate the 1990 Howard Stern thing in the internet age when we're saturated with porn? I don't care about these bitches getting topless on radio and getting spanked by Jim Norton. The bit is literally lame. That is also the moment of realization that Bill doesn't need to be there anymore. A bunch of 50 year old C level comics sitting around a topless 18 year old and sniffing each others ears. That's symbolic of what happens when your comedy career doesn't take off, Bill Burr's did. He doesn't need to subject himself to that kind of depravity to fill 20 seats at Goonie's.

I don't really blame him. O&J is irrelevant as can be and Bill's just moving on like a lot of people have.

Y'all need to relax. If you like the way people used to be, hold on to the old stuff and move on. People are going to evolve, and they are not going to do so according to your specifications.

Since Ant got fired I've only bailed on three shows and this was one of them.

They talked about nothing for three hours. It just wouldn't end!

have you ever listened to old OnA with burr, vos, patrice etc... all they did was bullshit and go from one random thing to another, they have never been structured.

I meant nothing interesting. Bill Burr almost saved it with some stories but it really was a godawful show.

And back in the day at least the random bullshit was interesting and usually centered around personal shit or whatever(usually race-related) thing was in the news that day.

An hour of Vos talking about his body and that dumb bimbo bored me to tears.

Were you really in tears are you 5?

I was around Bill a reasonable amount in 2014. He really strikes me as a guy that is uncomfortable with his level of success, never expected to get this famous, and it's fucking with his head. It's really seemed to turn him into a cranky "Ive fuckin had it" type of demeanor. I think he has to deal with people a lot more than he's used to.

"We see them on the way up, and on the way down"

Burr will be back, when he is plugging his you tube only special he is shooting at Marvins strip club, when he is forgotten and kicked to the curb when his Breaking Bad fame dries up.

Nah its not some comic of the month guy we are talking about here, he built his career with mmpc which has a world following and the o&a show. He lost some of the rage due to finally beeing happy which hurt his comedy a bit. He is still fucking funny and insightfull as fuck.

Good for fuckin' Burr. Now, for the others to follow suit.

He's not the same since he got married.

Neither is Tits. Even more so when he had the river child and its sibling. AS A FATHER.

Opie always sucked, but he became intolerable roughly around when he got married.

If Burr's doing this in around like 2005-2008, ok. But now, does it really matter. Can you blame him, Louie, or any other previous regular for jumping ship?

And why grill him over maybe changing due to his fame/social level rising. You don't know him, you're not related to him. Give anyone on this sub a major fame boost, and they'll be a fucking douche. It happens.

Youre Right. We don't know Burr & neither do you. What I mean by that is Vincent was spot on when he said that people hate when one comic does something but when Burr does it, they make excuses for him and some say "You don't know him". Maybe Bill is the big headed Hollywood cocksucker that I've said he is for a while now? The guy who forgot who his real friends are, and forgot about the people who are responsible for getting Bill where he is today. We hate DeRosa for what he did, but Burr did something very similar and it's Nothing but excuses for him. Maybe he is a pussywhipped bitch controlled by his Black wife?

The thing that blows my mind is that I think most the people on here are intelligent deep thinkers with slit of ideas, but when it comes to Burr, nobody questions s shit for the most part. Everybody just Assumes he had the Best of Intensions in mind.

I know I'll get down voted as usual, which I can't even begin to describe how Little I care about that. But maybe there is someone intelligent on here who can honestly answer my question of why Bill Burr is so fucking Infalible? Instead of immediately saying "OMG! HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT OUR LEADER BILL BURR WITHOUT KISSING HIS ASS! HE MUST BE DOWNVOTED AT ONCE"!

I'll give it a try. I think one large part of the reason people back Bill so much is that he often played the role of the listener while in the studio. He even said so on multiple occasions when the others were filling him in on a story or event he didn't know about. I'm tempted to say he's something of an Everyman in that environment, but that feels a bit too strong. His reactions to bits in the studio were more aligned with how a relatively normal person would react, and he expressed the cringing that listeners themselves were experiencing (likely in varying degrees). That's not to say those bits weren't funny, but he just vocalized an identifiable reaction for the listener.

He also generally comes across as a likable guy with a good heart. He's often been humble about any fame or adulation, and also usually sticks to his own "code" (e.g., tries not to name names, speaks his mind, doesn't get involved with things that don't involve him, the aforementioned humility, etc.). The latter (having and abiding by personal convictions) is something that tends to elicit respect whether one realizes it or not, even if one likes the person or not. He's also just simply funny most of the time and is often humorously outspoken on various topics (while usually admitting no one should listen to him because he's an idiot). So, establishing himself as almost a surrogate of the listener and then being funny and well-liked while interacting with others in the studio likely sealed him as "sacred" for many listeners. Also, one large difference between Burr and DeRosa is that Burr left the firing completely alone and didn't publicly throw Anthony under the bus. Another is that Bill and Anthony weren't as close as DeRosa and Anthony, so that made DeRosa's public comments even more reviled in comparison.

With all of that said, I do believe that Bill has faltered a bit in the past and present on some of these qualities that originally brought people to like him. However, I think earlier impressions of Bill have led many to forgive and even defend later transgressions. I am personally a big fan of Burr, but I think he has changed in some ways and not all of them good. He's gotten a bit douchey and holier than thou at moments, but sometimes he does catch himself and apologizes for it. I've found myself listening to the MMP less and less as well. Maybe it has something to do with L.A., Hollywood, being married, or just overexposure, but he has gotten a little too preachy about some really stupid shit despite having, in the past, espoused the practice of staying out of other people's fucking business. He has started contradicting past commentaries (but people do change). He's also started to take on more and more of an attitude of treating his podcast as a chore rather than as an enjoyable outlet.

I hope my ramblings have somehow helped.

As far as the "podcast as a chore" thing, to be fair, he is a lot busier than he used to be. He is doing the Thursday podcast too, which feels a lot looser.

Yeah, I agree that it stems from having a lot more going on. I can definitely understand it, but it still devalues the entertainment a bit for me. I do like his more laid back attitude on the Thursday one a lot better. I think it's because he can be as short or long as he wants and then fill the rest with throwback segments. He also doesn't seem like he has to be right out the door afterwards.

Thank you for actually having an intelligent answer.

I am not really a fan of "Hollywood" Bill Burr but it's not like he has anything to gain from this show at this point, all of the 10,000 or so listeners of O&J know of him and either are fans or his or not.

I am sure if ol Billy race traitor could get rid of all his O&A era fans he would now that hes got his mainstream SJW types attending his shows. I hate that he changed so much with a little fame (and a big nigger wife) but it is what is.

I am excited to see him play Rocky Dennis in the remake of "The Mask" though.

He's industry Burr now.

Colin openly shits on the show now too.

Basically, any comic who is established enough to not need plugs has fucked off.

The only comics that stick around are the ones that need the promotion.

Bill burr lives in LA. Probably the only time he is in New York is when he is doing stand up or promoting a movie. I bet he has a limited amount of time to himself. Probably, he does not want to wake up early, just to go on a radio show that is not funny anymore. All this sub does is talk about how shitty the show is, yet we are surprised when funny people aren't interested in it anymore.

He's going to die in a helicopter crash.

Hopefully after this shit

Fuck 'im. Stay in hollywood with your national geographic mail order bride.

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Meh. He's more than paid his dues. If he wants to sell-out a little bit and play their game in exchange for more fame and success, then I'm fine with that.

If his wife controls him expect him to become less and less funny, as she is as funny as a pile of scabs.

fuck him then, I don't listen anymore, but I've had a similar impression of bill. It's fine to move on, just don't expect old fans to like your fake new persona

How is evolving and growing up a "fake persona"?

lot of people grow up and don't abandon their past

So you're the same person you were at 16?

No one cares.

He's not the same since he got married.

Agree. Burr is either going to take the Eddie Murphy route and quit comedy, or keep going and become the white Kevin Hart.

Either way, he's had better material in one special compared to some other comics, so at least he has a good collection of work. Sucks that he doesn't seem to be progressing, rather regressing, as a comedian.

He's married, end of story.

What man has ever maintained the same level of talent after being married or falling in love?

Fuck Bill burr now seriously had no clue this is how he was He had no problem going on the show everyday when nobody knew who the fuck he was I bet they'll have him back but how can anybody look for a laugh of some cunt who doesn't want to upset people by going on a show where the co-host was well within his rights to say/tweet what he did

What the fuck are you even talking about?

Your mothers hairy puss filled vagina

Even if Ant was still there, Bill would have left the show. He's just gotten too big and too much of an ego now

Burr seemed genuinely annoyed with Vos. Not in the fun way that he usually annoys people, but a sort of "I'm too big for this shit now" way. He had a special on Netflix, cartoon coming up with a lot of buzz. Why should he care about the show anymore?

He still reads emails almost every podcast, from what I remember.

what ever you need to tell yourself, sweetie.

I'm so happy to know that I am not alone here. Thank you.