But opie insisted he did everything he could and that we just don't know how hard he tried....I don't know about u fellas but I don't think opie is one to lie.
RIP my comment karma but if I've got 2 kids and an unemployed wife at home then why on Earth would I sacrifice my own job for someone elses fuck up?
Rationally, Opie goes to management and says "no fuck you guys, no Ant no show" and management goes "well... ok then, bye". Congrats, you're now doing a podcast. Whether you wanted to or not.
This is why that argument sucks. Because it's not a job at Kinkos, it's a radio show that is based on personality and entertainment. Yes, I'm sure at anyone's office job there have been times when people benefit cuz other people were fired.
But when you do a radio show where the whole concept of it was the honest guys with integrity callin out phonies & tellin it as it is while spitting in the face of corporate, it's a different situation.
Which kind of artists do you like more? The ones that do what they want because it's a labor of love or the guy that takes the truckload of money to do things the way others tell them to? And if Opie & Jimmy aren't aware of the realities of the entertainment industry and just hope to have radio as their only income til they die then they are fuckin stupid
The real slap in the face is the brand that they've built the last 20 years. Right now it's pretty clear that Opie has just been along for the ride the past 10 years at least. But for Opie to just let Ant go and to think he can go on doing something COMPLETELY different and not get shit for it because it contrasts the rest of his body of work is just sad.
The thing about being on SXM is that it was clear that management didn't give a fuck about them. The show was dying on the vine. They are worth more together than apart, at least initially, they'll have to build their individual brands on their own, which Ant is doing. Opie is going to continue to wither at SXM while Ant's show is actually growing.
They've been talking about it forever, ESPECIALLY fucking Opie. He's always the one bringing up doing podcasts and he turns around and re-signs with the company that he's bitched about constantly.....AND NOW he's gone onto crowing about how pleased management is with him and the show.
The bigger point here was that, as a brand, O&A are worth more TOGETHER. Now they've gone their separate ways and are starting from scratch. Anthony has people paying to listen SPECIFICALLY to his show. He's done all of the shit that they talked about wanting to do but management dragged their feet on. Visual element, HD, I believe he has BIG plans on adding more shows to his venture.
What the fuck is Opie doing? Collecting a check and dying in obscurity. He gets to keep all of the O&A fans complacent with continuing to pay for SXM, but I'd be willing to bet his audience was cut at least in half. They didn't do jack shit for the show before, he's going to get even less than that now. He's going to fade into obscurity on Satellite, the same thing Satellite radio is going to do. It's a shit company and they're just riding it for as long as they can fool shareholders into thinking that the new car activations are actually paying customers.
But when you do a radio show where the whole concept of it was the honest guys with integrity callin out phonies & tellin it as it is while spitting in the face of corporate, it's a different situation.
Which kind of artists do you like more? The ones that do what they want because it's a labor of love or the guy that takes the truckload of money to do things the way others tell them to
I genuinely don't care. My emotional attachment to them (or any other artist) begins and ends at whatever amount of enjoyment I can get out of their product.
If Ant had gone on the air and profusely apologized to the black community, sucked off Al Sharpton live on PPV etc it would make absolutely 0 difference to how I feel about him, because ultimately all that matters to me is that they continue to produce the show that entertains me. They're not my friends, I don't know them in real life, why would any of that stuff matter to me as a listener?
The only reason this whole situation bothers me is that because of Ant's actions, and the companies over-reaction, we now have 2 shows that I don't enjoy anywhere near as much as O&A. TACS has its moments but I don't have hours every day to sit around waiting for them, O&J is a mess and only listenable when Jim is on fire. The only entertainment I get out of that show now is listening to Opie continue to further his own stereotypes.
I can't get mad at them for not wanting to leave and do a podcast or whatever. What business is it of mine?
I guess the difference is that I think the "Opie & jimmy" show does suck cock. If the show became great somehow after Anthony was fired, I probably wouldn't care either
Someone once brought up that if Opie was fired for cake-stomp & Ant & Jimmy stayed on their wouldn't be nearly as much Anthony hate as Opie hate. And i agree because the show would be so much better than the show is now. But also, I have a feeling if it was "Ant & Jimmy" the show would have a more self-depricating/honest tone.
Like, I could see Ant & Jimmy riffing on how they are whores. I could see Anthony buying a new mansion and making it funny that he profited from Opie's firing.
I will say, I did hear the segment of Jimmy shitting on that rapper for canceling the SAE frat show & he just sounded like the biggest hypocrite. Opie & Jimmy, where being "free speech guys" is such a significant staple of who they are, they blew it. They can't be taken seriously anymore on the issue that was pretty much the main issue of the show. They folded under the pay check
I think it's more he wanted to be the star of the show. he wanted to take over for stern and thought he could have made the show so much better than it wAs. he was wrong on all counts
I agree with you to the extent that this is a valid decision for most people with more typical jobs (as /u/xxmikekxx pointed out). I don't think many would fault you for staying assuming you're a decent guy who takes pride in his work, isn't a pathological liar, and states his reasons plainly. The problem with Opie is that he has a generally shitty attitude, puts less effort in as the days go by, and has been caught in so many lies that it makes it extremely difficult to give him the benefit of the doubt at this point. He's a radio personality, and this is the personality he has inadvertently (IMO) established for himself.
And all of those years of derailing the show when there was a funny comic on by "going off" (disingenuous, manufactured outrage accompanied by a bunch of bluffing and posturing) about management and over-using the phrase "f-you money" to come off as this devil-may-care shock jock makes it EXTREMELY hard not to see him as a phony after all of this went down. Opie was talking about "f-you money" in 2006.
That is why it's a bit more difficult to sit there and be like "well he's gotta do what he's gotta do." And his inability to be honest and the constant facade he puts on makes it easy to find him annoying now that Ant is gone.
Because Opie is a self proclaimed Millionaire with self proclaimed Fuck you money who has on many occasions has criticized other DJ's who have done the same thing when their partner has been fired.
Just because he's a hypocrite based on things he's said on the air doesn't mean he's obligated to throw himself under the bus. Goes back to the Anthony thing, apologizing for what he did would have made him a hypocrite but it also would have kept the show together...
I don't know if the Top gear comparison made sense..those guys are beyond rish with true fuck you money. They can walk away and not have a fucking care in the world.
It's a pretty big coincidence that Anthony's revelation occurred right before Opie's Facebook post. In Opie's post, he said that they two of them haven't communicated recently, but the timing of everything makes me suspicious that Anthony was already upset about something he recently heard.
If I had to guess, Anthony is still has his allies from the O&J staff.
That's fair. I expected more acrimony based on yesterday's OMFG reaction. If anything it had more of a sad tenor. The remnant was probably afraid to take the "if he goes, we go" stance because it might've given off a public perception of mitigating Anthony's racial hang-ups. I dunno. The whole thing just bums me out, still. I miss the warmth & fuzziness of the #OA20 glory tour.
The real slap in the face is the brand that they've built the last 20 years. Right now it's pretty clear that Opie has just been along for the ride the past 10 years at least. But for Opie to just let Ant go and to think he can go on doing something COMPLETELY different and not get shit for it because it contrasts the rest of his body of work is just sad.
The thing about being on SXM is that it was clear that management didn't give a fuck about them. The show was dying on the vine. They are worth more together than apart, at least initially, they'll have to build their individual brands on their own, which Ant is doing. Opie is going to continue to wither at SXM while Ant's show is actually growing.
But when you do a radio show where the whole concept of it was the honest guys with integrity callin out phonies & tellin it as it is while spitting in the face of corporate, it's a different situation.
Which kind of artists do you like more? The ones that do what they want because it's a labor of love or the guy that takes the truckload of money to do things the way others tell them to
I genuinely don't care. My emotional attachment to them (or any other artist) begins and ends at whatever amount of enjoyment I can get out of their product.
If Ant had gone on the air and profusely apologized to the black community, sucked off Al Sharpton live on PPV etc it would make absolutely 0 difference to how I feel about him, because ultimately all that matters to me is that they continue to produce the show that entertains me. They're not my friends, I don't know them in real life, why would any of that stuff matter to me as a listener?
The only reason this whole situation bothers me is that because of Ant's actions, and the companies over-reaction, we now have 2 shows that I don't enjoy anywhere near as much as O&A. TACS has its moments but I don't have hours every day to sit around waiting for them, O&J is a mess and only listenable when Jim is on fire. The only entertainment I get out of that show now is listening to Opie continue to further his own stereotypes.
I can't get mad at them for not wanting to leave and do a podcast or whatever. What business is it of mine?
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13 jgnurly 2015-03-26
You're a saint on ert
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12 Grandmas_Dick 2015-03-26
It's really simple. Anthony has character and Opie is a character.
9 Ken__Fresno 2015-03-26
Just because you ARE a character doesn't mean you HAVE character.
11 alexreleases 2015-03-26
You can skip to 1:40 to get passed the caller douche, but it's there for setup.
10 boogsuge 2015-03-26
But opie insisted he did everything he could and that we just don't know how hard he tried....I don't know about u fellas but I don't think opie is one to lie.
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1 lickitoff 2015-03-26
That's what he says about everything,
5 thatsnotwhatimsaying 2015-03-26
opie is an irritating fuckwit for not going on ants show and anthony is a silly man for not waiting until monday to vent, jimmy is a sweet boy
4 jimcozad 2015-03-26
No chin worm faggit
5 justchippinyaaaa 2015-03-26
Well put Ant.
3 snoopkhat 2015-03-26
the cunt is getting closer to outright calling Tits out for being a cunt.
2 blkout180 2015-03-26
RIP my comment karma but if I've got 2 kids and an unemployed wife at home then why on Earth would I sacrifice my own job for someone elses fuck up?
Rationally, Opie goes to management and says "no fuck you guys, no Ant no show" and management goes "well... ok then, bye". Congrats, you're now doing a podcast. Whether you wanted to or not.
23 xxmikekxx 2015-03-26
This is why that argument sucks. Because it's not a job at Kinkos, it's a radio show that is based on personality and entertainment. Yes, I'm sure at anyone's office job there have been times when people benefit cuz other people were fired.
But when you do a radio show where the whole concept of it was the honest guys with integrity callin out phonies & tellin it as it is while spitting in the face of corporate, it's a different situation.
Which kind of artists do you like more? The ones that do what they want because it's a labor of love or the guy that takes the truckload of money to do things the way others tell them to? And if Opie & Jimmy aren't aware of the realities of the entertainment industry and just hope to have radio as their only income til they die then they are fuckin stupid
8 TankRizzo 2015-03-26
The real slap in the face is the brand that they've built the last 20 years. Right now it's pretty clear that Opie has just been along for the ride the past 10 years at least. But for Opie to just let Ant go and to think he can go on doing something COMPLETELY different and not get shit for it because it contrasts the rest of his body of work is just sad.
The thing about being on SXM is that it was clear that management didn't give a fuck about them. The show was dying on the vine. They are worth more together than apart, at least initially, they'll have to build their individual brands on their own, which Ant is doing. Opie is going to continue to wither at SXM while Ant's show is actually growing.
1 lickitoff 2015-03-26
Missing the point. The company wouldn't have been influenced by "if he goes, we go". It would've been "Bye, bye"
1 TankRizzo 2015-03-26
They've been talking about it forever, ESPECIALLY fucking Opie. He's always the one bringing up doing podcasts and he turns around and re-signs with the company that he's bitched about constantly.....AND NOW he's gone onto crowing about how pleased management is with him and the show.
The bigger point here was that, as a brand, O&A are worth more TOGETHER. Now they've gone their separate ways and are starting from scratch. Anthony has people paying to listen SPECIFICALLY to his show. He's done all of the shit that they talked about wanting to do but management dragged their feet on. Visual element, HD, I believe he has BIG plans on adding more shows to his venture.
What the fuck is Opie doing? Collecting a check and dying in obscurity. He gets to keep all of the O&A fans complacent with continuing to pay for SXM, but I'd be willing to bet his audience was cut at least in half. They didn't do jack shit for the show before, he's going to get even less than that now. He's going to fade into obscurity on Satellite, the same thing Satellite radio is going to do. It's a shit company and they're just riding it for as long as they can fool shareholders into thinking that the new car activations are actually paying customers.
7 blkout180 2015-03-26
I genuinely don't care. My emotional attachment to them (or any other artist) begins and ends at whatever amount of enjoyment I can get out of their product.
If Ant had gone on the air and profusely apologized to the black community, sucked off Al Sharpton live on PPV etc it would make absolutely 0 difference to how I feel about him, because ultimately all that matters to me is that they continue to produce the show that entertains me. They're not my friends, I don't know them in real life, why would any of that stuff matter to me as a listener?
The only reason this whole situation bothers me is that because of Ant's actions, and the companies over-reaction, we now have 2 shows that I don't enjoy anywhere near as much as O&A. TACS has its moments but I don't have hours every day to sit around waiting for them, O&J is a mess and only listenable when Jim is on fire. The only entertainment I get out of that show now is listening to Opie continue to further his own stereotypes.
I can't get mad at them for not wanting to leave and do a podcast or whatever. What business is it of mine?
5 xxmikekxx 2015-03-26
I guess the difference is that I think the "Opie & jimmy" show does suck cock. If the show became great somehow after Anthony was fired, I probably wouldn't care either
Someone once brought up that if Opie was fired for cake-stomp & Ant & Jimmy stayed on their wouldn't be nearly as much Anthony hate as Opie hate. And i agree because the show would be so much better than the show is now. But also, I have a feeling if it was "Ant & Jimmy" the show would have a more self-depricating/honest tone.
Like, I could see Ant & Jimmy riffing on how they are whores. I could see Anthony buying a new mansion and making it funny that he profited from Opie's firing.
1 blkout180 2015-03-26
Yeah I think you're right, if O&J wasn't so terrible it'd be easier to stomach for everyone I'd imagine. It's unlistenable for the most part.
4 Clown_Shoe 2015-03-26
Opie clearly cares more about a paycheck then being some speech hero for his fans who already hate him. So why would he quit?
15 xxmikekxx 2015-03-26
Yea that's obvious now.
I will say, I did hear the segment of Jimmy shitting on that rapper for canceling the SAE frat show & he just sounded like the biggest hypocrite. Opie & Jimmy, where being "free speech guys" is such a significant staple of who they are, they blew it. They can't be taken seriously anymore on the issue that was pretty much the main issue of the show. They folded under the pay check
6 stinkskc 2015-03-26
I think it's more he wanted to be the star of the show. he wanted to take over for stern and thought he could have made the show so much better than it wAs. he was wrong on all counts
2 CharlieDango 2015-03-26
He wouldn't. Say, how did Jocktober go last year? I missed it
-1 Clown_Shoe 2015-03-26
There was no jocktober last year. What's your point?
12 Danimalian 2015-03-26
I agree with you to the extent that this is a valid decision for most people with more typical jobs (as /u/xxmikekxx pointed out). I don't think many would fault you for staying assuming you're a decent guy who takes pride in his work, isn't a pathological liar, and states his reasons plainly. The problem with Opie is that he has a generally shitty attitude, puts less effort in as the days go by, and has been caught in so many lies that it makes it extremely difficult to give him the benefit of the doubt at this point. He's a radio personality, and this is the personality he has inadvertently (IMO) established for himself.
2 Iagainstiagainsti1 2015-03-26
And all of those years of derailing the show when there was a funny comic on by "going off" (disingenuous, manufactured outrage accompanied by a bunch of bluffing and posturing) about management and over-using the phrase "f-you money" to come off as this devil-may-care shock jock makes it EXTREMELY hard not to see him as a phony after all of this went down. Opie was talking about "f-you money" in 2006.
That is why it's a bit more difficult to sit there and be like "well he's gotta do what he's gotta do." And his inability to be honest and the constant facade he puts on makes it easy to find him annoying now that Ant is gone.
6 drpepper0000 2015-03-26
Because Opie is a self proclaimed Millionaire with self proclaimed Fuck you money who has on many occasions has criticized other DJ's who have done the same thing when their partner has been fired.
0 blkout180 2015-03-26
Just because he's a hypocrite based on things he's said on the air doesn't mean he's obligated to throw himself under the bus. Goes back to the Anthony thing, apologizing for what he did would have made him a hypocrite but it also would have kept the show together...
2 ChippusMaximus 2015-03-26
No it wouldn't have kept the show together. He was fired before he even had a chance (not that he would).
2 jimcozad 2015-03-26
There's a very area between no support and fired to podcast.
2 CookieHaid 2015-03-26
Fuck that...Opie shelled out an additional $4-million to upgrade from his other $4-million condo right after Anthony was fired.
3 blkout180 2015-03-26
I don't think you understand how the process of purchasing property works.
-1 CookieHaid 2015-03-26
You know what I meant, stupid. He fucking DOUBLED his already gargantuan mortgage payment after Ant was fired.
1 blkout180 2015-03-26
Ugh, you're not "one of the guys". Just stop. He doubled it because he got a new contract, which he would not have had if he'd left...
-2 CookieHaid 2015-03-26
You sound like an exasperated homo. You're also fucking clueless.
1 graps 2015-03-26
I don't know if the Top gear comparison made sense..those guys are beyond rish with true fuck you money. They can walk away and not have a fucking care in the world.
2 dagens24 2015-03-26
Home rub Clippah.
2 Patmcpsu 2015-03-26
It's a pretty big coincidence that Anthony's revelation occurred right before Opie's Facebook post. In Opie's post, he said that they two of them haven't communicated recently, but the timing of everything makes me suspicious that Anthony was already upset about something he recently heard.
If I had to guess, Anthony is still has his allies from the O&J staff.
1 bu77munch 2015-03-26
Opies Facebook post was in response to Ant calling SXM hypocrites for playing his old shows on Twitter.
2 jfral 2015-03-26
That's fair. I expected more acrimony based on yesterday's OMFG reaction. If anything it had more of a sad tenor. The remnant was probably afraid to take the "if he goes, we go" stance because it might've given off a public perception of mitigating Anthony's racial hang-ups. I dunno. The whole thing just bums me out, still. I miss the warmth & fuzziness of the #OA20 glory tour.
2 SunC79 2015-03-26
God I hate SiriusXM for doing this to us. They don't get nearly the hate they deserve.
1 CookieHaid 2015-03-26
wassat?
1 Steeped_In_Folly 2015-03-26
have the two dickless fags talked about Clarkson on air?
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1 Masogava 2015-03-26
Holy shit, Mike Francesa is a TACS fan?
-1 BillyWayneGacy 2015-03-26
Yeah but what about the 20 years of loyalty shown by the opester? Or is that like the tire saying its been loyal to the rim?
4 halareous 2015-03-26
its like my dick saying its been loyal to ur mom fagit
-4 FrunkisOA 2015-03-26
Pay the 7 dollars faggots
10 Wsallgood 2015-03-26
:they needed tha money! Ohhhhh!:
4 Clown_Shoe 2015-03-26
Opie clearly cares more about a paycheck then being some speech hero for his fans who already hate him. So why would he quit?
8 TankRizzo 2015-03-26
The real slap in the face is the brand that they've built the last 20 years. Right now it's pretty clear that Opie has just been along for the ride the past 10 years at least. But for Opie to just let Ant go and to think he can go on doing something COMPLETELY different and not get shit for it because it contrasts the rest of his body of work is just sad.
The thing about being on SXM is that it was clear that management didn't give a fuck about them. The show was dying on the vine. They are worth more together than apart, at least initially, they'll have to build their individual brands on their own, which Ant is doing. Opie is going to continue to wither at SXM while Ant's show is actually growing.
7 blkout180 2015-03-26
I genuinely don't care. My emotional attachment to them (or any other artist) begins and ends at whatever amount of enjoyment I can get out of their product.
If Ant had gone on the air and profusely apologized to the black community, sucked off Al Sharpton live on PPV etc it would make absolutely 0 difference to how I feel about him, because ultimately all that matters to me is that they continue to produce the show that entertains me. They're not my friends, I don't know them in real life, why would any of that stuff matter to me as a listener?
The only reason this whole situation bothers me is that because of Ant's actions, and the companies over-reaction, we now have 2 shows that I don't enjoy anywhere near as much as O&A. TACS has its moments but I don't have hours every day to sit around waiting for them, O&J is a mess and only listenable when Jim is on fire. The only entertainment I get out of that show now is listening to Opie continue to further his own stereotypes.
I can't get mad at them for not wanting to leave and do a podcast or whatever. What business is it of mine?
2 ChippusMaximus 2015-03-26
No it wouldn't have kept the show together. He was fired before he even had a chance (not that he would).