http://i.imgur.com/8O47Koo.png I read this before and was like wow. It just pulled me back in. I literally stopped listening to o and J like two days ago. Now I gotta sign back up
The saddest thing I ever read. Never would I expect Opie to pull this shit. But this isn't Opie that's doing this, it's Corporate Cunt.
I mean, listen to some of their early XM shows. If Howard Stern ever pulled this shit, you know Opie and Anthony would be on that story. Remember when they attacked Stern for not going to his friend's father's wake in 2006? It's fucking mind-blowing how Stern-like one of the hosts has become. It's fucking sad.
But I'm sure 867-5309 will still attack Jim. That's fine if Norton has some fucking bullshit theories about current events, but I'm hoping he has awareness about him being a high school/college dropout.
Who is that allegedly written by allegedly? I remember when Ant got fired Jim kept mentioning Ant might get hired back, he did Ants show twice in one week and was talking like something was being worked out for Jim to be on the show semi-frequently. If this unsourced bullshit is even remotely accurate Op's a legit cunt on top of being terrible on the radio, but its on the internet so I'm assuming its fake and gay.
Still made up, even if a few elements (Ant negotiating with Jimmy, Opie laying down a guilt trip) are accidentally true. Ant's show was plugged fairly often.
From what I read here they only talks about it when a guest brought it up, when it does Oqie will keep trying to change the subject. and the gag order is for the staff so Jim and Ronb can still mention it
The part that irrevocably puts this into bullshit territory is the "you can find out when Opie re-signed if you just know where to look", as if radio hosts' contracts are somehow in the fucking public domain or something you can just Google or go down to the courthouse and look up. "If you're smart enough to know where to look" really sells it: he's implying that smart people somehow have access to information about legal negotiations that 2, maybe 3 people on the planet are privy to, and if you admit that you dont know where to find this information, you're just dumb cuz you "don't know where to look". This is specifically designed to get people of below-average intelligence to believe it by appealing to their insecurities about their below-average intelligence. And that's just the visible, above-water peak of this iceberg of bullshit.
The idea that Ant's gonna pay Jim a fucking salary, out of pocket, for a show that he knew going into it was gonna have a very low gross income is just retarded. Ant would have to be more than just incompetent business-wise to pick that specific payment model, he'd have to be fucking delusional and incapable of basic math like subtraction. If he said he offered Jim 50% of profits, you could say "ok, maybe, since Ant is eating all the risk since its his equipment and house", but to claim that Ant would offer Jim - who's salary, realistically, was probably close to what Ant's was - a year's salary WITHOUT A FUCKING CONTRACT!? Hes added in all these little details that he thought made it sound more realistic but actually make this scenario not just unlikely, but fucking preposterous and impossible. Add to this the memo "ban on plugging Ant's show", which apparently no one told Jim, Opie, Ron, or any other on-air talent about, and you have a very poorly-crafted conspiracy theory. And what was that shit about a "nervous breakdown"? What about that situation could possibly inspire a nervous breakdown in anyone except Ant? These are just fanboy fags who want there to be more to the story than there is. Ant got fired, but money talks, and there are exactly 0 reasons to believe that Opie re-signed early but somehow upheld a charade of resigning in October for literally months.
The part that irrevocably puts this into bullshit territory is the "you can find out when Opie re-signed if you just know where to look", as if radio hosts' contracts are somehow in the fucking public domain or something you can just Google or go down to the courthouse and look up.
There may be ways. It's not that you are going to see the contract itself, just a date signifying renewal. SiriusXM shareholders get access to certain financial and management documents. One of the documents could show that he resigned or just show his salary being taken into account for operating expenses. That info may have a date connected with it.
Then why dont we know any other radio host's salary? Howard Stern's contract negotiations were as tied to the future existence of Sirius as any performer's has been to their employer's success, probably in history. If the shareholders and public needed to know anything, they'd need to know details of Stern's contract above anything else. And yet its fucking impossible to find anything more than speculation on Stern's contract anywhere. And that's because shareholders don't get itemized bills for what each host gets paid. First of all, businesses dont want every decision management makes to be scrutinized by shareholders; thats just not how it works, but more importantly, they don't want it to be public info so other hosts don't have any leverage during negotiations to say "well, Stern gets this much, and I'm worth at least 1/4 of that". Why do you think they pay agents to negotiate? Its because agents have better insight into what the market price for a big-name DJ is, because theyre one of the 4-5 people on the planet with any knowledge of the actual going rate for a Stern or an Anthony, because they represent people on that level making similar deals. Plus, there are non-disclosure agreements.
Remember when Stern ran for governor of NY and dropped out? He dropped out because he would've had to disclose how much money he made, which was a huge secret because he thought itd make him un-relatable if it got out. So you think that they're just gonna publish information about salaries, even though they have a million economic incentives not to, and would gain nothing by doing so, just cuz you think their shareholders wanna know? Thats not how it works
And besides all that, if this guy knew where to find it, why wouldn't he just post a link or say where? What does he gain by intentionally being vague and just implying that this exists without proving it? The one thing his entire argument hinges on, and he can't be bothered to prove it exists, or even point you in the direction. He just implies ot exists and if you can't find it, there's something wrong with you. Thats a hallmark of a fraud, and if its so easy to find, why didnt he find it and post it for all to see? Because he can't because it doesn't exist
13Euclid claims there is some kind of ban on plugging Ant's show. Jimmy has plugged it on his advice show recently, Opie on the main show recently, and Ron on his show. For there being some kind of ban, no one seems to be really following it. The sentiment I've heard pushed the most on the channel is, "There's nothing wrong with listening to both shows.". So idk, that's the bullshitty thing about this whole quanspiracy to me.
Ah yes, the guy who's big smoking gun was Opie's contract. Of course he didn't include it in his post but it could easily be found publicly by anyone that knows what they're doing. Just, you do it. It's really easy if you know what you're doing.
Raqio talent can be immediately discarded with abundant evidence available to be provided. So I suppose super agent Bob whatever really knows how to earn those sheckles.
I think it might be legit. The only thing that seems kinda off is would sirius really resign opie for a 2 year contract(with a raise) on july 9 without knowing that jimmy would stay? Is sirius really dumb enough to think that opie could do a show by himself? I dunno, maybe they really are that stupid or just dont care.
A user that dropped a quick behind the scenes bombs. Mostly that anthony went after jimmy hard after his firing to get him on his show and not to re-sign. Jim did anyhow then later found out that opie re-signed a week after ants firing. And didn't tell jimmy.
47 comments
23 mintwaltman 2015-03-26
There never was a 13Euclid. What you saw was swamp gas, or Venus in the night sky.
6 MrKrinkel 2015-03-26
Are you proposing a false flag?
11 EskimoEscrow 2015-03-26
No my son. A Hawk. A Hawk of great importance.
7 ChippusMaximus 2015-03-26
Shithawk... swoopin down at us
10 INeedToHearABam 2015-03-26
Birds of a shitfeather rand
6 hookahreed 2015-03-26
Ricky, are there really shithawks?!?!
3 justchippinyaaaa 2015-03-26
What's a shit hawk? Some kinda big shitty bird that swoops down and drops poop onto ya?
5 goarlorde 2015-03-26
And now all OnA fans are staring into the shit abyss
6 jhohcable 2015-03-26
Not another night of the shitabyss!
3 Wsallgood 2015-03-26
Hawk!
3 mintwaltman 2015-03-26
My friend, I'm not taking anything off the table yet.
18 Jerkofalljerks 2015-03-26
http://i.imgur.com/8O47Koo.png I read this before and was like wow. It just pulled me back in. I literally stopped listening to o and J like two days ago. Now I gotta sign back up
8 ONAFan2014 2015-03-26
The saddest thing I ever read. Never would I expect Opie to pull this shit. But this isn't Opie that's doing this, it's Corporate Cunt.
I mean, listen to some of their early XM shows. If Howard Stern ever pulled this shit, you know Opie and Anthony would be on that story. Remember when they attacked Stern for not going to his friend's father's wake in 2006? It's fucking mind-blowing how Stern-like one of the hosts has become. It's fucking sad.
But I'm sure 867-5309 will still attack Jim. That's fine if Norton has some fucking bullshit theories about current events, but I'm hoping he has awareness about him being a high school/college dropout.
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7 Ott_Paper 2015-03-26
Who is that allegedly written by allegedly? I remember when Ant got fired Jim kept mentioning Ant might get hired back, he did Ants show twice in one week and was talking like something was being worked out for Jim to be on the show semi-frequently. If this unsourced bullshit is even remotely accurate Op's a legit cunt on top of being terrible on the radio, but its on the internet so I'm assuming its fake and gay.
5 rottenseed 2015-03-26
It's definitely gay, but the theory was that it's Erock our part of the Erock army because 13 Euclid is the address of Springfield MENSA
3 panjshirlion 2015-03-26
Still made up, even if a few elements (Ant negotiating with Jimmy, Opie laying down a guilt trip) are accidentally true. Ant's show was plugged fairly often.
1 NhaterJR 2015-03-26
From what I read here they only talks about it when a guest brought it up, when it does Oqie will keep trying to change the subject. and the gag order is for the staff so Jim and Ronb can still mention it
2 michaelcolestie 2015-03-26
i just hope that he is laughing his ass off hard.
1 Jackatard 2015-03-26
Danny leaking info shared by Travis.
13 beleca 2015-03-26
The part that irrevocably puts this into bullshit territory is the "you can find out when Opie re-signed if you just know where to look", as if radio hosts' contracts are somehow in the fucking public domain or something you can just Google or go down to the courthouse and look up. "If you're smart enough to know where to look" really sells it: he's implying that smart people somehow have access to information about legal negotiations that 2, maybe 3 people on the planet are privy to, and if you admit that you dont know where to find this information, you're just dumb cuz you "don't know where to look". This is specifically designed to get people of below-average intelligence to believe it by appealing to their insecurities about their below-average intelligence. And that's just the visible, above-water peak of this iceberg of bullshit.
The idea that Ant's gonna pay Jim a fucking salary, out of pocket, for a show that he knew going into it was gonna have a very low gross income is just retarded. Ant would have to be more than just incompetent business-wise to pick that specific payment model, he'd have to be fucking delusional and incapable of basic math like subtraction. If he said he offered Jim 50% of profits, you could say "ok, maybe, since Ant is eating all the risk since its his equipment and house", but to claim that Ant would offer Jim - who's salary, realistically, was probably close to what Ant's was - a year's salary WITHOUT A FUCKING CONTRACT!? Hes added in all these little details that he thought made it sound more realistic but actually make this scenario not just unlikely, but fucking preposterous and impossible. Add to this the memo "ban on plugging Ant's show", which apparently no one told Jim, Opie, Ron, or any other on-air talent about, and you have a very poorly-crafted conspiracy theory. And what was that shit about a "nervous breakdown"? What about that situation could possibly inspire a nervous breakdown in anyone except Ant? These are just fanboy fags who want there to be more to the story than there is. Ant got fired, but money talks, and there are exactly 0 reasons to believe that Opie re-signed early but somehow upheld a charade of resigning in October for literally months.
16 alexreleases 2015-03-26
You're just angry that you don't know where to look.
3 NickCarpinelli 2015-03-26
Didn't read all of this but it's well known that jimmy was earning significantly less than opie and Anthony.
With that said, 13 Euclid is fake and gay
3 goarlorde 2015-03-26
Well, we all know Ant is out-of-pocket
0 YouAintGotToLieCraig 2015-03-26
There may be ways. It's not that you are going to see the contract itself, just a date signifying renewal. SiriusXM shareholders get access to certain financial and management documents. One of the documents could show that he resigned or just show his salary being taken into account for operating expenses. That info may have a date connected with it.
3 beleca 2015-03-26
Then why dont we know any other radio host's salary? Howard Stern's contract negotiations were as tied to the future existence of Sirius as any performer's has been to their employer's success, probably in history. If the shareholders and public needed to know anything, they'd need to know details of Stern's contract above anything else. And yet its fucking impossible to find anything more than speculation on Stern's contract anywhere. And that's because shareholders don't get itemized bills for what each host gets paid. First of all, businesses dont want every decision management makes to be scrutinized by shareholders; thats just not how it works, but more importantly, they don't want it to be public info so other hosts don't have any leverage during negotiations to say "well, Stern gets this much, and I'm worth at least 1/4 of that". Why do you think they pay agents to negotiate? Its because agents have better insight into what the market price for a big-name DJ is, because theyre one of the 4-5 people on the planet with any knowledge of the actual going rate for a Stern or an Anthony, because they represent people on that level making similar deals. Plus, there are non-disclosure agreements.
Remember when Stern ran for governor of NY and dropped out? He dropped out because he would've had to disclose how much money he made, which was a huge secret because he thought itd make him un-relatable if it got out. So you think that they're just gonna publish information about salaries, even though they have a million economic incentives not to, and would gain nothing by doing so, just cuz you think their shareholders wanna know? Thats not how it works
And besides all that, if this guy knew where to find it, why wouldn't he just post a link or say where? What does he gain by intentionally being vague and just implying that this exists without proving it? The one thing his entire argument hinges on, and he can't be bothered to prove it exists, or even point you in the direction. He just implies ot exists and if you can't find it, there's something wrong with you. Thats a hallmark of a fraud, and if its so easy to find, why didnt he find it and post it for all to see? Because he can't because it doesn't exist
9 otteaux 2015-03-26
I believe every word because it makes this sub more interesting.
1 Anarox 2015-03-26
This is the right answer
8 Cobrakai7 2015-03-26
13Euclid claims there is some kind of ban on plugging Ant's show. Jimmy has plugged it on his advice show recently, Opie on the main show recently, and Ron on his show. For there being some kind of ban, no one seems to be really following it. The sentiment I've heard pushed the most on the channel is, "There's nothing wrong with listening to both shows.". So idk, that's the bullshitty thing about this whole quanspiracy to me.
7 KennethFresno 2015-03-26
Ah yes, the guy who's big smoking gun was Opie's contract. Of course he didn't include it in his post but it could easily be found publicly by anyone that knows what they're doing. Just, you do it. It's really easy if you know what you're doing.
3 chippersan 2015-03-26
EDGAR??
4 -Palaver 2015-03-26
What specifically has Anthony said that would validate 13Euclid?
20 Eddie_Savitz_Pizza 2015-03-26
Nothing. O&A fans are just generally stupid people though.
6 Wsallgood 2015-03-26
Wuh happund?
3 jsmill1 2015-03-26
that's true, and I would've forgotten about him were it not for you reminding me here.
2 helobious1 2015-03-26
Erock is way too vague for that to be him.
2 Ott_Paper 2015-03-26
So is the buzz that this is a staffer who was/is on-air? Travdog? Syaamm?
2 Wsallgood 2015-03-26
Sal.
2 majestik6 2015-03-26
Opie makes seven figures a year.
Either he's really good at negotiating, or really good at raqio.
2 thrillated 2015-03-26
Raqio talent can be immediately discarded with abundant evidence available to be provided. So I suppose super agent Bob whatever really knows how to earn those sheckles.
1 boofk 2015-03-26
I think it might be legit. The only thing that seems kinda off is would sirius really resign opie for a 2 year contract(with a raise) on july 9 without knowing that jimmy would stay? Is sirius really dumb enough to think that opie could do a show by himself? I dunno, maybe they really are that stupid or just dont care.
3 ChippusMaximus 2015-03-26
ME: I told them I'd figure it out
-1 Lame_Username_Here 2015-03-26
what is that?
4 humblebrag 2015-03-26
A user that dropped a quick behind the scenes bombs. Mostly that anthony went after jimmy hard after his firing to get him on his show and not to re-sign. Jim did anyhow then later found out that opie re-signed a week after ants firing. And didn't tell jimmy.
Something to that effect.
4 it_was_illuminati 2015-03-26
Oh my god. Fuck Opie.
1 ONAFan2014 2015-03-26
After reading that, I pray 867-5309 goes easy on Jimmy. Both are sweet boys.
2 Wsallgood 2015-03-26
Oh they're both sweet alright.
2 justchippinyaaaa 2015-03-26
Yea shuuuuureeeee sweet like candy them boys are.
2 stinkskc 2015-03-26
what is he going to the studio ?