Warning about donating to the Patrice documentary

36  2015-03-17 by smokewithcigawettes

The campaign being run is "flexible funding," which means they get your money even if they don't hit the goal. So they're trying for $125k, but if they only reach $40k they can take the money and run.

I hope they're running an honest campaign and that the documentary does Patrice justice. I'm just not familiar enough with anybody on the team, including Von. If anyone can vouch for these people, you'd be helping us make the decision to donate.

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I'd love a good Patrice documentary but I don't know about this whole thing. It seems like it would end up just as bad as Women Aren't Funny and really be a bad idea for Patrice's legacy.

I was expecting WAF to be better :/. A bit of a vanity piece for Bonnie.

Get ken burns on it and he'll do a 5 hour doc on the history of black comedy.

I had low expectations for Women Aren't Funny and I enjoyed it. I'm all in for any chance to see Rich talking and acting like a goof.

The Chris Rock appearance (8 seconds on an iPhone, accosted at a comedy club) was laughably bad though.

Heh, why am I surprised by how shitty it sounds? Almost as if I thought Opie and Vos could create something that doesn't suck.

One shitty doc won't tarnish his legacy

Because he really doesn't have one to begin with.

But you do, right? What a dope.

What a silly thing to say!

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I noticed this as well. As much as I'd love to see a Patrice documentary, I can't donate to this until I see something more official.

I might be wrong, but something stinks about the whole thing.

Something is rotten in the state of Newfoundland...

Erock just tweeted the link saying it's "official"

Yeah that doesn't make me feel any more comfortable....

He's not good.

Erock brings nothing to the table.....except a hogie maybe

When will people stop tap dancing on Patrice's grave?

When they move it from the middle of the tap dance studio. Still no idea why they buried him there.

No matter who or what you're donating to, you should do your proper research first, especially with crowdfunded campaigns.

Righteous was a word Patrice loved. Not sure this qualifies.

The page says 58% of the $125k goes to the actual production. 19% goes to funder perks. 19% of $125k...I feel like most real Patrice fans would rather this money go to something better than giving funders fucking mugs. Put that back into production or shave it off the top, so maybe there's more of a chance this actually happens, instead of the OP's legit suggestion that maybe they make part of it and "oh well, didn't make our goal, thanks for the $80k..."

Also, it states:

"IF we exceed our goal of $125,000 through your generous support, additional funding will be used for the following: Editing, Color-correction, Sound design & audio mixing, Graphics, Licensing of Patrice clips (which are owned by various networks and entities), Titling and credits, Public relations and marketing, Increasing production value of the film, Increasing marketing, public relations and distribution plans, Putting on a wonderful premiere screening in NYC & LA and buzzed-about after-parties for you, our top contributors"

So I take it that the $125k doesn't even account for essential, money-costing necessities in that list. Editing takes time and money, so does color-correction, not anyone can do these things in an afternoon. And licensing - which will be a lot - lets be honest, Comedy Central, HBO, they won't just give content, it'll be substantial $.

Should this entire reddit donate a few bucks and all of us collectively get a pproducer credit?

Executive-produced by

Hey Fat Tits Retire Already

People actually are considering donating to this crowdfunding? As soon as I saw "Flexible Funding" I passed. I love Patrice and have an autographed comedy benefit poster hanging in my office, but there's no way I'm donating to this.

Crowdfunding was the greatest idea that overstayed its own welcome faster than any other idea. Everything & anything you can think of has "crowdfunding" now. I was just reading at r/movies that Jon Faverau & the co-creator of Chef (which I loved) are crowdfunding $125 THOUSAND dollars to open a restaurant. Oh, and if they hit $75k, Faverau is going to donate "$7,500" of his OWN money! The guy is a fucking millionaire 10x over, are you kidding me? 7 grand??

Why don't they get actual investors, or god forbid a fucking bank/business loan, like everyone did for the past 300 years.

125K wow

ME: I created wow.

You would think Tits could chip in the cash seeing as how he used Patrice to further his own career for so long.

Wassat?

The $125K itself is a weird budget, or rather 58% of that. Not enough for a legit movie and too much to get the rights to Patrice's clips, interview some comics and slap it on youtube. I'm having a hard time figuring out what this is supposed to be, especially considering the nobodies that are producing it. And on top of that, the "flexible" crowd sourcing.

a 45k money grab?

Probably. I'm thinking that Von needs to eat, and she has nothing to lose by stringing O&J along. That's not even anything against Von, it's just that insert girlfriend you happened to be with when you died expectantly is now in charge of your legacy indefinitely. Patrice might not even still be with her if he was alive.

Enough with Patrice and all the benefits already.

I 2nd this.

Patrice was great and is still missed but I wouldn't donate a dime to make a documentary about him. His friends can donate their time and money to his gf or anyone else, I simply don't have enough cares to help finance anyone's film

Cool story.

What's the story, Peter Lorre?

Dudes life was an open book. Why the fuck is there need for a documentary. Just listen to O&A Patrice stories on youtube I guarantee it will be way better than some broad dicking around with a camera.

So what if its "legit"? So what the director did a couple Biography channel TV docs? Patrice deserves better than that.

Sucks Robert Durst gets a bigger production budget.

I was going to throw a few bucks their way but fuck "flexible funding". Either you get the 125k or you don't. If you get 80k and you say hey we can do this for 80k then your goal should have been set at 80k. Either you feel you can do this for 125k or not.

If this was a you don't get charged unless they meet their goals then I would be fine with it. The whole thing just seems suspicious. I don't see them having a coherent plan and I don't buy the credentials they have.

I haven't listened to her interview on O&J but did Von mention is Patrice's mother would be part of the documentary? Because she talked about not having a good relationship with her before and in any decent doc his mom would play a big part in talking about his childhood/telling the story about sneaking him out of Boston when he had a warrant out for him etc.

Because it's flexible spending, I wouldn't be surprised if Opie is trying to "get a piece."

Fucking assclown.

I want a definitive collection of all his SiriusXM and Comedy Central appearances, all known videos of him at clubs, and a roundtable interview moderated by CQ (like Tough Crowd) with Jimmy, Bobby, Vos, Keith, etc. for a couple hours just telling Patrice stories and shitting on each other. The best thing O&A ever did is arguably that Patrice memorial show. Remastered quality digital clips of every televised or broadcast appearance he's ever done plus a sort of roasting/commemoration by his real friends. Not some posthumous smoke-blowing session done in hackneyed documentary style. I'd pay a lot of money for that collection.

As much as he deserves praise, we overuse words of praise for people when they're dead. The words become cheapened because of overuse so that a true genius receives the same words as any random rube. No documentary will be as authentic to who he was as his own words and appearance is/was. I don't know this filmmaker enough to trust that they'd do a good job, or the kind of job I'd want, so I won't back it for now.

And he wasn't some sort of oddball. Richard Pryor has great documentaries about him because he was a fucking lunatic. He lit himself on fire, grew up in a strip club around prostitutes, and did copious amounts of drugs. What will we learn about Patrice that we don't already know from the show? He wasn't some inexplicable person like Pryor was; he was a pretty down to earth guy who also just happened to be a comedic genius.

but if they only reach $40k they can take the money and run.

How does it work compared to Kickstarter, where I believe campaign creators are legally required to deliver?

Some guy made a great documentary of thrown-together clips and posted it on YouTube for free.

Loved Patrice but the fucker is dead and gone. The only thing that should have been Kickstarted was his diet plan.

Apart from an Erock tweet (nothing against the Nagel), has this project been mentioned/supported by anyone from the show? Such approval would go a long way.

Y'all are some real thrifty fucks.

Christ...donate or don't.

Well, Von is Patrice's girl, so it seems legit.

Doesn't mean she can't be suckered into something.

was....and she is shady.

Patrice was worth the $20 I already spent on him posthumously, -I think he's worth another twenty.

But leave it to you Nellie's to think Von is running a scam. Sheeesh.

If you don't totally trust it just donate $5 and hope everything works out. If it doesn't then so what. It's $5.

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What? It's just $5... I won't go to Wendy's tomorrow. I'm an adult with disposable income.