If Howard doesn't sign a new deal, there's a good chance SiriusXM will fold.

4  2015-03-15 by [deleted]

Then what?

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I don't think they'd fold. Subscriber growth is still pretty good because of car sales (this is independent of Howard). Howard leaving will reduce their operating cost by millions. There's a lot of people who just like talk radio, so they'll stick around and listen to someone else. They still haven't been killed by the Internet like people were predicting around 2007. If they do start to lose, I think they'll become more of a content company, and less of a medium company. They could start selling individual shows on different platforms/services.

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To be honest I think unless it was a major market, like NYC, he wouldn't do it. He would just retire. Regardless of what he would be getting paid. Clearly the fool has plenty of fuck you money. The real issue is he obviously has massive insecurity issues and a true fear of being totally irrelevant. As far as Jim, I think that's spot on. Though I think he would continue to try and get a tv project off the ground. No matter how many times it doesn't happen for him. The poor lil' fella.

When you have a wife 20 years younger than you with two children, there is no such thing as Fuck You money. It is always Fuck You I Am Leaving With A House, A Car, Alimony and Half Your Bank Account.

Hahahahahaha

And why is Ant the only one that gets shit for his dating younger girls? 20 year difference smells like pedophilia or at least teen spirit

The real issue is he obviously has massive insecurity issues and a true fear of being totally irrelevant.

And that's what I love. I love knowing that the second his show is done for good, people will immediately forget that he ever existed.

No way. The Opester would happily be the king of Rochester or whatever city he lands in with his morning zoo outfit.

I thought the little doggie company would have folded by now based on the info I was getting from the Opester

I hate SiriusXM, but, unless Howard's departure scares investors, that won't happen.

From a consumer standpoint, I don't think it hurts a company that gets most of its money from dumb car sales.

Bigger question is if that happens, who gets Howards spot? O&J, ron and fez, covino and rich?

Ronnie B doesn't like mornings.

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I don't know how that is possible. There is no way that Howard listeners would represent that much of their subscriber base. I would guess the majority of subscribers do not care what happens with Howard, O&A/J, or R&F. They just listen to their coffee house music and roll along in their Lexus to brunch.

And it isn't like Howard generates some ridiculous ad dollars. He has the same shitty ads that O&A had.

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They could save millions upon millions of dollars by not caving into Sterns money grubbing demands. He's easily been the most overpaid person in show-bussiness for the last decade and would struggle to earn 1/100th the money he is making on his own.(hence the podcast trashing ) . His subreddit has 2-3k more subs than this sub( that is centred around a show that doesn't formally exists any-more)

After they've laid that much infrastructure? I.E. all those pre-installed sat radios? Nah. Most likely they will just get bought out on the cheap. Which should sufficiently dry up Oqie's salary next contract....

Yes.... Yes let that happen.

I doubt him leaving would cause them to fold. However, fuck SXM for being a shitty company so I'm ok with it

Now that in-car wifi is becoming a thing, the only draw for Sirius is original content and the only original content the average chump would recognize is Howard.

sure, but with all the contracts they have with car manufacturers, they'll continue to have subscribers. i would be curious to know how many customers they have that actually pay the ridiculous full price.

ME: This doesn't matter. The displaced Stern fans will come over to Opie Radio, you DOPES. My show puts up AT LEAST half the numbers that Howard's does. #OpieRadio

#DelusionalOpie

ME: Management thinks this is a huge opportunity for the brand. I know @notsam is excited. #takinover #OpieRadio

They've done surveys that say something like 10% of Sirius subscribers listen to Howard sometimes and like 4% of them said they'd consider cancelling if Howard left. The drawing power of Howard Stern is all a carefully crafted illusion.

couldn't agree more!!! Sirius are masters of lying through research

I remember hearing that Sirius owns hundreds of terrestrial stations and licenses. So they could basically make no profit off of their satellite service and still stay alive.

Are you thinking liberty media? Who owns sxm?

Do you have a source? If that's true it's a pretty puzzling business decision.

There was a survey of 8000 listeners and only 5 percent of subscribers who could hear Howard, not everyone can, would leave if Howard did. We are talking easily less than 1 million people out of over 20 million listeners.

Those 5% are retards. Imagine if 5% of people threw their television out the window because they cancelled firefly.

Why would you keep a worthless service if the only thing you're paying for is gone?

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AND I STILL HAVEN'T PUT A TV BACK IN! FUCK YOU, FOX!

Why? I paid for Sirius for good talk radio. Stuff that doesn't exist on terrestrial anymore. Mostly O&A, but listened to Howard now and then, and really enjoyed the archives.

Then Ant was fired and O&J was terrible. Howard is barely ever live, and when he is, it is pretty bad too. So what do I have left? Howard archives? R&F were on when I am never in the car and I wasn't going to pay Sirius more to listen to the same content on my phone as well as a radio.

Sure I listened to music on Sirius and occasionally Raw Dog or live sports on a longer road trip, but I can stream that stuff and I have an extensive music collection already. The value in the sub for me was gone after Ant left.

If they signed some new show maybe I'd come back. The Oakerson/Soder show could have done it, but they botched that too of course.

Ron and fez replays in the morning on indie 102, yesterdays r and f is lightyears ahead of a live o and j

At 7 I think right? Too late for me, I'm commuting between 5:30 and 6:30. Used to have O&A replay, then the afternoon O&A replay started when I was heading home. Worked out great.

Starts at six I believe, I turn iron around seven and the show is well under way

They should follow their TV if they like Firefly.

Probably 90% of those 5% are also just bluffing. That's usually how it works. Sirius isn't going anywhere if Howard does.

B.S. I would say almost everyone I know who has Sirius doesn't listen to Howard.

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Siriusxm is going to fold no matter what eventually.

lol Sirius will actually turn a decent profit if Stern left. SXM has been around long enough to have known many people who have one and the majority listens to music or other channels. Most don't know who O&A are or give a shit about Stern. It's us fans who think we're part of something bigger than it is.

I'll finally laugh again. That's what

SiriusXM's annual revenue last year was $4,181,095,000

Howard gets paid $80,000,000 a year.

If Howard was tied that much of the companies earnings...he would be making a lot more than $80MM a year.

I don't think it's going to matter either way.

I agree with you but what was the real profit? very easy for them to hide numbers to look better to shareholders. $80M moved to Profit will look great on the books but they will eventually lose subs...

I left howard in the early 2000's but once they alienate all the live programing why would someone get Sirius/XM (unless you can't get cell service)? Outside of a few of the sports channels and Ron and Fez you can get similar content elsewhere.

Tss where's the crease gonna be?

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Fold? Yeah ... right.

Question. Am I the only one who thinks that Opie probably pays Sam a nice salary secretly? I know Sam gets paid around $40,000 a year by Sirius, but Opie has dried and bitched so much over the years about how hard Sam works for lite pay. Not that it matters but for conversation purposes, but I bet Opie at least matches Sam's salary.

WARNING, LONG POST! ONLY READ IF BORED. IF YOU DO DECIDE TO READ IT, THEN DONT BITCH BECAUSE ITS TO LONG. YOUVE BEEN WARNED! THANK YOU.

Does anyone else remember this infuriating moment? (This is when Danny was just a Google Boy ass licker, but Ant always put him on the air). During one of the 500 times that Opie cried about Sirius giving Howard $500 Million but the O&A Staff hadn't had a raise in 3 years, meaning Erock, Sam, Travis, Danny, & Derek. That Hateable Cunt Scab Danny chimed in and said "Yeah! I haven't got a raise either and I've been on the air for 3 years"!😡😡😡😡😡😡😡 (Yes, I just used an emoticon so go fuck yourself!😡)

I swear to Christ I was so fucking irritated, I seriously wondered why O&A Fans that live in NYC has Never caught Danny outside of the Studio and broke his fucking jaw so we wouldn't have to listen to him speak anymore! Like that time they did a live event at a bar somewhere that was packed with Danny hating O&A Fans. All the fans were talking shit and yelling out hateful shit at Danny, and Danny actually stood on a table and said "Any of you mother fuckers who have a problem with me, come say it to my face"!

My first thought was oh shit, Danny is about to be pummeled, but not one person called his bluff. I'm not a tough guy at all and I never claimed to be, but I would have had to call his bluff out of principal! I'm sure Danny was somewhat hiding behind Kenny when he said that, but I would have found him alone outside. Instead of getting arrested, I would have just sucker punched him walking by on the sidewalk so he wouldn't see me and with New Yorkers not stopping for anything, nobody would have stayed around as a witness.

This was too fucking long.

I'm Sorry. If only I would have put a disclainer at the top of the comment advising everyone that it's a long boring post that you should only read if you're bored.

I really could have used something like that, you insensitive clod.

That has the same chance of happening as Opie losing his radio gig if Anthony ever left the show.

i can't honestly believe that howard brings them all that much except a huge expense.

howard was old and past his prime 15 years ago.

i'm not opposed to his style of humor, i'm not offended, i don't really hate him. but i tried listening to his show here and there over the years and it really was just poorly done. it wasn't for someone my age. really young people, and really old people would seem to enjoy it. not a young adult that likes intelligent but coarse humor.

i remember one time for a week i listened on regular radio and it was alright, but they always had these stupid sound effects like farting that would be needlessly interspersed in there. and naked women on the radio? what the fuck? who needs that shit?

but, i have the same complaints for O&A, they just did it less.

Satellite Radio is more than just some past-their-prime former shock jocks. I know people that have it that just use it to listen to music stations.

I wouldn't be surprised if SiriusXM did end up dying eventually, but it won't be because of losing shit shows like Howard or O&J.

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Given your comment, I can only assume that you have the business and financial acumen of a chimp.

NIGGA WUT?!?!

When Howard signed that huge deal before, he said a hundred times that the only reason he re signed is so his staff had jobs. You Bever heard Opie give a fuck about Abyone on his Staff when he threatened to quit 100 times.

All those times Opie cried about Howard getting a half a billion dollars, he never mentioned that Howard had to pay all the people working for him, and the talent on his channels. That's still a lot of money, but Opie made it sound like Howard pocketed $500 Million.

Maybe they bring Ant back and actually push them and market them again?

Starts at six I believe, I turn iron around seven and the show is well under way