Because just like Opie, Joe flat out refuses to admit that he is where he is ONLY because of the O&A fans. The fans gave him his livelihood and and he turned on us, so now we are simply taking back what we so gracious gave in the first place.

Joe publicly piled on his friend after he lost his job and was attacked by national media outlets and internet SJW's. He didn't care about his relationship with Anthony then, but now that the 'shoe is on the other foot', and Joe is the one receiving the internet flogging he reaches out to him (Anthony) to try and make amends when he didn't have his back in the first place. He could have disagreed with his stance and supported him, he didn't have to sandbag him on Rogan's podcast. I personally don't want to see Joe's livelihood ruined, and I don't think it will be. I just hope he understands why people are upset with him, and that he doesn't view himself as the 'victim' in this situation. He made his own bed.

You know you can stop reading when you hit "SJW" or "white knight."

Why's that?

Well because no one who is actually thinking about a topic has ever used that term earnestly.

Do you even know what the acronym SJW stands for? Are you denying that these people exist?

SJW and white-knight are terms used to describe the behaviour of a certain type of person. There's nothing wrong with using them.

Yes, I'm denying that they exist. Anyone making a dumb, overly emotional argument is in the same boat regardless of their political leaning.

If they are arguing for a misguided sense of 'social justice' I think they can be properly deemed 'social justice warriors'. If you don't like the term that's fine, you shouldn't get hung up on semantics. I was referring to the people who were outraged on twitter, calling for Anthony's firing, emailed sirius, etc. because they felt what he said wasn't morally permissible or was politically incorrect/insensitive. "Social Just Warrior" is much more succinct than that exposition. It's a commonly used term that most people on the internet understand, it saves everyone time.

The need for short hand illustrates that you arent interested in what they have to say, you just know they disagree with you and you want your turn to start yelling. And we all know how white knight and SJW gets thrown at totally reasonable people making totally reasonable arguments. Its like calling someone a socialist because you have different opinions about taxes.

The mob that went after Anthony weren't making 'reasonable arguments', I don't think everyone for social justice is a 'social justice warrior', I don't dismiss everyone who is left leaning as a 'social justice warrior'. Calling for someone to be fired because you think they made remarks that are not socially or morally permissible correlates to being a 'social justice warrior' from my point of view. I didn't agree with many of the things he posted, I'm not dismissing anyone who disagreed with what he said. SJW is used incorrectly in some instances like any term, but in the context that I used it I don't see a problem. Would you rather I described them the way I did in my previous comment and elaborated on it more fully? That would have been a waste of time in my opinion. You are inferring things that I never stated.

Don't bother with these guys, there a couple of these fags wandering around this sub. They honestly believe that pretending the concept of social justice warriors don't exist actually makes it so. These knee-jerk progressives are everywhere on reddit and until recently they've managed to avoid the insults that knee-jerk conservatives get on a regular basis. They haven't been taking it well.

I think DeRosa saw an opportunity in Ant's firing to be the leader of those who were "offended" by Ant's tweets. He'd go on Rogan and after "kickin' knowledge" he'd have this outpouring of support being that he stood up to the big bad racist Anthony Cumia. When that didn't happen he tried to backtrack and call into Ant's show but it ended up being the equivalent of bringing a knife to a gun fight as he ended up sounding pretty stupid. The whole standing up for Andy Kindler thing (why ? why would anyone do such a thing?) really wasn't what grinds my gears, if he wants to white knight for an unfunny "comedian" friend of his so be it. Now why didnt he come to Ant's aid like he did Kindler I have no idea, Ant is only the guy who invited him to parties, politely laughed at his jokes on O&A even after he bombed, and generally assisted in giving him life outside bar shows.

The Opie hate is the Long War, and will go on indefinitely

The Joe Derosa hate is just a quick bit on the side until he kills himself, should be over soon

After hearing his explanation on the JRE podcast, my interpretation was that Joe was hurt that Ant didn't come to his defense....for not coming to Ant's defense...

People were calling him out (as they were Bobby and Bill and Louie) for not publicly defending Ant.

Yes that sounds dumb but it seemed to be the underlying issue. So then he masked it with saying he's actually mad at what Ant said in his tweets. I'm sure that really was part of it, but I think the root cause was more personal.

Joe is someone who has no stance on anything and thinks by saying the "right things" will benefit his career. The appeal of O&A was unapologetic views on different topics. This guy thinks he can play both sides even though he cut his teeth with an audience that has a cynical sense of humor. He could have kept his mouth shut since some other comedians may feel similar though are more aware of how to handle themselves.

This is the world Joe DeRosa wants to live in, he said on Rogan's podcast that there should be consequences for your speech. He agreed with the consequences of Ant's speech being his firing.

Now he's crying because he can't handle the negative consequences of his speech, but he wants everyone else to live under these rules.

Did you just say Opie is getting zero hate on social media?

I hate Opie and Jim because they didn't quit.Free Speech Maaaaan