Say what you want about loyalty, but O&A didn't "uncover" people like Louis CK and build their career the way I see a lot of comments say on here. Details below

0  2014-12-05 by [deleted]

Disclaimer: I'm not saying O&A publicity did nothing for these guys. All publicity is good. I'm just making a post based off the comments I see that say things like "Same with Louis C.K. O+A put him on a huge radio show(at the time) when no one knew him. He becomes a big star"

  1. Louis CK made the film Tomorrow Night in 1998. The film featured Amy Poehler, Steve Carell, Conan O'Brien, Chuck Sklar, JB Smoove, Wanda Sykes, Nick Diapolo, etc.

  2. I can't find the first appearance of Louis but I know he was on the virus tour in 2007. That's the earliest year I can see him with O&A. 9 years after making that movie.

  3. He was writing for Conan and Letterman way before going on O&A.


That's just Louis CK but I'm sure similar things could be said for the other comedians that people are crediting O&A for their success.

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My favorites are when they complain about people who did the show once in 2001 and are now "too big for the show", as if one 45-minute radio show appearance set up by their film's publicist built some sort of lifelong bond.

"We had him on the show before anyone cared about him. He had a great time in studio, but now when he comes to town he just does Letterman and the Today Show, and he's too busy for his old pals!"

I think we can all agree they pushed people like derosa up to a bigger audience... Not that they "made" anyone, but I'm sure they increased their numbers for stand up... Which over the course of a few years really builds up a bigger fan base.

Sirius/xm really blew it though, if you think about the other shows they could have had on a O&A channel if they were aggressive in 2006-2009... Burr, Patrice, even Louie might have done like a monthly show, bobby, vos/bonnie... East side Dave on sports... They could have been a power house.

Hindsight is obviously 20/20 but I remember Patrice saying they were only paying him like $300 for the black Philip show... Just seems like it would have been a no brainer to build a solid channel

Oh come on, Derosa was headed for the stars

Thanks to these fucking chip posts I read these serious looking ones from the bottom up now.

Probably had to look way on the bottom for this one.

The thing about Sirius is that it's so inaccessible that it really can't build a career. You have to already know about O&A, be a fan, THEN subscribe to the correct Sirius. The one without Stern and with O&A.

Louis was in a terrible marriage when he started coming in. He would do anything to get away from his wife. He was on the show for himself more than for them. He's brought more awareness to the show than they have to him.

In one of Louis's old appearances he mentions a show that sold out when he was expecting very little turn out. He specifically says that it was entirely O&A fans and thanked the show for that.

Beyond that, you have a really braindead thesis.

I am sure you so often hear people talk about how they discovered Louis from a 1998 movie that he didn't appear on screen in... Tomorrow Night brought Louis to stardom so quickly that for some reason he was still plugging shows on O&A a decade later.

Everyone is well aware that Louis started becoming popular from 06'-07', stop being a twat.

If anybody says they discovered Louis from his 1998 Tomorrow Night they are full of shit because Louis only distributed it last year.

everybody knew reddit made louie ck lol

and a sidenote back when the cake stomp blew up those reddit fags were trying to get friends of the show in trouble, i remember reading comments mentioning ck and burr trying to get them in to shit

Cake stomp had no impact on anything. It was/ is nonsense.

It could've been something if blew up like the hookergate did

  1. No one saw that movie in 98.
  2. That movie didn't push his career at all. It was released for sale to an audience over a decade later BECAUSE he's become huge.
  3. Cool, because the country knows the name of Conan and Letterman writers.

O&A boosted these comedians' careers but lots of people got into o&a later through youtube clips Louis, Bill, and Patrice.

I agree that comment is a little fair fetched. Couple things with Louie. He had a lot of credits, but he wasn't successful. He had short writing gigs at a few places and don't forget he wrote that piece of shit Pootie Tang. He was a bit lost as comic before he came to O&A. Not saying O&A were the reason for his success now, or were the only reason. I'm sure his marriage wasn't helping. I remember Louis CK build up pretty clearly, and sorry, O&A had something to do with it. Louis CK started coming on in 2006. He was definitely hilarious but his comedy wasn't where it is today.

I went to a Louis CK show that O&A promoted heavily in 2006. If Louis CK wasn't on O&A, he would not have filled that room. It was in a ballroom at the Trump Marina in AC, and it was pretty much all O&A people. They just set up chairs and Louis was basically on a make shift foot and a half high stage with a curtain behind him. There were tons of O&A shirts, hats. It was an O&A crowd. He was very funny and was working out the material that would become Shameless (suck a bag of dicks). The point there is that O&A helped him. They had him on whenever he wanted, and they helped sell out his shows. And the same can be said for Bill Burr, Vos, Bob Kelly, all of them. Burr said on JRE that his crowds are O&A fans and podcast fans, and its like half and half. Those are Burr's words. Now that was in I think 2010 or 2011 before his recent success, but Burr credited O&A then.

On top of packing shows, O&A was also a good place for comics to just hang, be themselves and create. There were actual bits in acts that came from conversations on O&A. People that say O&A made people stars are a little over the top but they helped a lot of comics become the comics they are today.

If O&A made stars Vos would be a millionaire.

"Tomorrow Night" was an old black and white movie he never released until like a year ago. Even when he re-released it, he said it had all these people before they were famous, and it was just a weird short film nobody saw. He had more street cred from Pootie Tang than that shit. Yeah, he wrote for Conan. Name me one other writer for Letterman, right now, off the top of your head.

He didn't get well known or famous from any of that shit.

But you see, OP read a wiki article of his hero who "tells it like it is" and still maintains his "average Joe" demeanor while being a critically acclaimed "arteest", maaan. Don't you dare say anything even remotely disparaging about patron saint Louis CK ever again.

Oh fuck off.

Sure let's all sit around jerking off to the show and upvoting posts that say "nobody knew who louis ck was and that the show made him famous." Who has time for reality right?

Hit a little too close to home, ha?

I'm just saying he was doing things like opening for seinfeld and working with dave attell and marc maron way before O&A. He had some shit together and you're delusional if you think "nobody knew him and the show made him famous".

I understand what your saying. But the point these guys are making is that some of the names you're saying, weren't house hold back then. Plus just because he worked with these people, didn't make him famous or funny. Most of his shit, was not funny. He was not successful. He was not famous. Thats just the truth. If he was so good and famous then why was he doing a One Night Stand special in 2005 with comics that he had 10+ years in the business on. He wasn't that good. Thats why.

Do you have a crush on Louis CK? D'aww.

Nobody saw that movie and nobody knows the writers of Letterman and Conan either. Fail.

What the fuck are u talking about? Nobody is saying they were open micing somewhere when O&A put these guys on. O&A put most of these guys on another lvl,and it's up to them if they can take advantage. Guys like Louie and burr have.

I linked to a comment that specifically said "Same with Louis C.K. O+A put him on a huge radio show(at the time) when no one knew him. He becomes a big star" and this comment has 20 upvotes.

So yes, people are saying that nobody knew them and O&A made them famous. It's absolutely not true.

Louie had a small fan base that through O&A turned into a good sized fan base. Then his talent turned him into a star.

O&A didn't make him but you're out of your mind if you seriously think he was famous before O&A. Compare pre-O&A Louie to post. Now, most of that came from his specials in 08-09 and then his show but O&A definitely helped him get to that point in a big way. The biggest factor in Louis CK's success is Louis CK himself, though. The poster you quoted is just being an ass.

CK was on in 2006 but I see what you mean. But who's really crediting O&A for Louis CK's success? They're a part of it but far from the big picture. I'm sure a decent fraction, not half, not even a fourth, of Louie's fans discovered him through O&A. Though, the opposite is true as well as I and many others discovered O&A through Louis CK.

People think Louis CK was a bigger part of O&A than he really was because of the youtube compilations of him. When in reality he was on about 40 times over the span of 5 years. It's really not THAT much when you think about it.

I believe O&A are due a little bit of loyalty from Louis CK but you're right, some of the rhetoric on here gets a tad hysterical. Patrice, Vos, Bobby, Burr owe/owed much more to O&A than Louis CK. But even then, all of those guys had careers before appearing on O&A and all of them have fans who like them purely for their standup.

But who's really crediting O&A for Louis CK's success?

The comment with 20 upvotes that I posted.

You're getting this upset over a dumb comment, which you also missed the context of since that poster didn't state what you claim.

I literally copied and pasted from that comment. It's the exact same quote, word for word.

No one knew him before O&A aside from a small number of comedy nerds and industry insiders. He did become a big star after being a regular on O&A. That poster did not claim it was because of O&A.

Why are you so rattled and defensive lol

He was on Conan a lot. I remember watching him in the 90's/early 2000's.

There's a ton of guys who have done standup on Conan or any 12:30 late night show that you've never heard of.

He was more than standup, he wrote on Conan, he pioneered many of the best loved stuff people remembered Conan for.

As an aside, I find it amusing that the OP is lauding Louis CK's early career when even Louis CK himself talks about how awful his comedy was back then.

So how silly does OP look now? BTFO

I literally copied and pasted from that comment. It's the exact same quote, word for word.