Yes... Opie and Jimmy should have quit. Or at least not sign another contract without Ant. The truth is Opie doesn't care about O&A or O&J... Opie cares about Opie.

As she should? I couldnt give a shit about most of my co-workers and im definitely not quitting if one of them gets fired.

Opie sucks which is why if he quit he'd be out of work for a long time. No one is going to quit and take huge pay decreases to maybe make a friend feel better.

Well you don't own a business with your co-workers I'm assuming and so therefor your decision to walk or not probably won't affect the viability of a brand your co-workers also own.

I don't even think it was about a pay cut, they had enough visibility and a rabbid fanbase to pull in $4mil a year with the hardcores and international audience on the internet (seems like that is the rough number they would need to hit to not lose money and keep a full crew), I think its more about job security for a guy who has been a company man since before the computer age. Its like old Brookes from Shawshank, sure he could get a job, a girl, a dog, take walks on the beach and move on with his life, but he's old and frail in a big scary new world and he's been sucking on the teet for too long to know anything else. Opie would rather etch "Sam & Opie was here" on a wooden beam and hang himself and sam than lose the security of that warm teet,

You're overblowing their fanbase. They would not make 4 million in any venture. SiriusXM is easily the biggest pay check they can get. Job security is also very important. The dude has a hot young wife and kids he wants to live the life with. I dont blame him for his decision as I think it was the smartest one to make.

Well don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they are massively famous and well respected and can just turn the money tap on from a massive audience in an instant. I was thinking more along the lines of having the work ethic of Adam Carolla and grinding, and placating to audiences in all the places in the world that keep people like David Hasslehoff and The Backstreet Boys rich and well known even though they are like dog shit in their own domestic markets, the same way Russel Peters is the biggest comic in the world but in the largest comic market in the world he might as well be an open micer. I certainly wasn't implying a bunch of truckers and bobos in Canada and the US were going to make it rain for the boys.

I don't think any of them have that work ethic or smarts, and the one that might is on his own anyway, so you're probably right.

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Exactly. Give it a full year and all the stubborn blowhards will eventually quit attacking him and O&J will keep the train going into whatever turn the show will make.

He has a hot young wife that is butt fucked by Bam every night.

Ant is making more money doing his show than when he was at sirius.

I strongly doubt that.

Because you bad at basic fucking math?

He charges $32 for 6 month, he is rumoured to have 25k subs, that's 800k. It could easily be more if you turn some of the 6 month into the $52 a year and the people only on a month will still make up the difference if you add the 6 month and 1 year people.

I don't know what he made at sirius or what he makes now with his podcast...the fact remains that I very strongly doubt he's making more now. He's definitely having more fun.

yeah, right

That's what stupid people like you believe ...

He's already said on his show numerous times you dumb cunt.

There is a huge difference between you quitting because some cunt in your office that you occasionally have lunch with gets fired and losing a 20 year partner that MADE your show. Loyalty dumbass, look it up. I'm glad I don't have to rely on any of you panty wastes to ever have my back.

Anthony got himself fired so Opie should have quit? That's not loyalty that's stupidity. Going down with the ship for Anthony when he early wasn't thinking about Opie or Jim is ridiculous.

Loyalty aside, If we're gonna go there, Ant shouldn't have been fired. He most certainly didn't get himself fired. You're saying the things O and A have fought against for years, the things we loved them for was all bullshit. Opie staying wasn't just a fuck you to Ant, it was an acknowledgement that everything he had ever said about management was bullshit and their, and Imus, and everyone else's firings was OK. Opie should have quit for Anthony but mostly as a fuck you to the climate that we live in, the climate that siriusxm supports. A climate they fought for fucking years. Opie supports censorship and by listening so do you. fuck you and fuck Opie.

I've been listening to old patrice shows. Opie clear as day said they were done after their contract. Patrice told them good. They hinted towards Ant's studio being better than what they have and that they would be all set with their FU money (ofc Ant was mostly quiet because it's obvious now Opie was doing it for negotiations not as a real threat).

It's really hard to think about all the people they screamed about being fired then when one of their own gets canned their only response is "it sucks." They had a chance to actually stand up for what they claim to believe in and just rode on like nothing happen.

So Opie should give up millions of dollars for a message that nobody except fans of the show would see. That's retarded. Anthony wouldn't do it for Opie and neither would Jim. Anthony did get himself fired. Whether you believe he should have been or not what he did was stupid.

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People always tend to forget that Ant partly fucked Op and Jim too. In his intro to TACS he clearly states on Red eye that "I will never apologize for this". I understand that he shouldn't and so on. But maybe it would have helped and he could have gone back to trash talking management within a month.

I'm just saying I personally may have gone down with Ant, but only if he had exhausted every other possibility.

Don't let the tits fool you; that "she" is really a he!

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I honestly think in a few years or so O&J will be haunted by the fact they turned their back on Anthony. New studio, new name, just sweep him under the rug. Maybe just Jimmy will, the Opster and Sam will be doing their own shitty show by then

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and his family. but whatevs

All I can say is that I happened to catch Private Parts a few days ago, and I was completely paying attention when they came to the part where Robin gets fired by Pig Virus for a bit because Howard himself couldn't be fired. The management at NBC just wanted to control Howard, because he was the main attraction, right?

Howard stayed though, saying that this was the only way he could fight for their cause (which in the context of the movie was implied to be "good radio", and who knows, maybe back then it was). The alternatives were much more limited back then though, but it seems logical to me that you wield the most power with the largest audience.

I know nearly everyone here hates Opie for whatever reasons, but in my opinion, when Opie leaves radio, that's it for the style of radio we like. Or at least is somewhat close to it, the unmitigated despite here makes me think there is a fine line between someone who likes this kind of show and masochists who listen to make themselves angry. I used to think that Ron and Fez would not last long if the anchor show left (witness what happened when WNEW imploded) but Ron seems to be insulating and entrenching himself a bit, so maybe there is a chance we will get a few more years.

I suppose that it is in our natures as people who like shock jock/hang out type radio to eat our own. I wish we could support the show and even perhaps make it better. Instead we are trying to tear down the last hanging entrails of what I enjoy having available every day. In my opinion Opie and Jimmy did a good thing staying on and trying to keep producing their style of radio on Sirius. The alternative is to start trying to find podcasts you can listen to, but that means that the days of 20 or so hours of entertainment from one group of guys will be over when the Sirius fires burn out.

when Opie leaves radio, that's it for the style of radio we like

Even with Opie still on, that style of radio is dead. The show is unlistenable now because they're taking it in a management friendly direction.

I think you are right. I just don't understand what everyone expects for an endgame here. If Opie leaves, that's it, there is nothing left.

It's over Johnny.

No. Stern was just kicking him while he was down and declaring a final victory. The only show that ever gave him a run for his money crashed and burned. The real insult was pretending to be barely aware of who O&A were. Opie and Jim would have been crazy to give up a seven-figure deal to Stand for Ant. I read the tweets as they happened, and Anthony has no one to blame but himself.

How does ant have no to blame but himself? He said stuff ON AIR ten times worse than he did on twitter.

Ant was well aware of the social climate we exist in. Of course he shouldn't have been fired for those tweets but that's not the society we live in right now. Ant knows people get fired over tweets. He made a mistake by going straight to twitter after his altercation. Don't use the same emotional arguments that feminists use about rape. Ant could have prevented all of this by just thinking about his tweets.

Go ahead and downvote logic and reason again lmao

There was barely any heat, and in the end, HE WAS THE ONE WHO WAS ASSAULTED.

As they pointed out above, he's said far worse on air. Management surely can't be oblivious to this. He was never once talked to, written up, suspended, etc. over anything he said.

What he didn't count on was how much Sirius^XM loves saving money. The took the opportunity and ran with it.

Not going of the cops or showing any evidence of this assault was retarded on his part.

Don't think it would have mattered.

Calm down.

Leave it alone!

Whether you're right and whether it was smart to do are two different issues. Yes, he was attacked. No, it wasn't smart to do. The argument over whether it was smart or dumb to do should be had somewhere else, not immediately after an assaulted man is uncontrolled in his anger.

And again, I think the firing was ridiculous, but in retrospect it wasn't unsurprising or shocking given the rest of this shit society.

Because he did it on Twitter just after the whole company went off to celebrate 4th of July and adamantly said in a public forum that he would not apologize or delete his tweets (which he ended up deleting). I'm sure the company bigwigs are dicks, but what would you do if one of your employees starting making your company look bad, in public, and you started getting calls just as vacation was starting? If Anthony had left them any option, maybe, just maybe, they would have cut him some slack and suspended him. No one made Anthony Tweet. Yes, it would've probably not caused an uproar if he spent four hours talking about it on-air the following Monday, but that's not what he did. He pushed his luck and we all lost a cool show that could've lasted until the 30th anniversary.

He was not fired for what he said on air, you moron.

Stern does like two weeks of radio a year and it's replays the rest if the time.

There's a reason his fans jumped ship to O and A. Cause Stern has turned into a hack, so kettle, meet pot. You're both black.

No, he just needs a new third mic. Anthony's irreplaceable in terms of comedy, but he could be replaced by someone with a different "angle". Look at Artie replacing Jackie. Artie didn't sit there doing Jackie's dumb jokebook jokes, he brought in something new. I think a new third mic is imminent because of the name change.

Why did he replace jackie?

Jackie "left" when he wouldn't resign his contract during negotiations. He was holding out for more money. A bunch of other comics were auditioned to replace him (including Florentine).

Jackie quit over money.

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No he just needs to find another Anthony to carry his show for him.

They should just put Ronnie B in Ant's seat.

they should put ant in Fez's seat.

Ron, Opie and Sam were actually listenable yesterday. I would love to hear Opie, Ron and Jimmie - but I think Opie and Ronnie would wind up butting heads in a bad way sooner rather than later if it were a daily show. Ron is an alpha and Opie - well, his name is on the station, but certainly not because of talent. He's not going to let Ron take over without a fight.

Yeah. Jimmy can't be a co-host and tell jokes. He needs the pressure off of him to let him shine. Let Opie "run" the show, Jimmy to not be the straight man and a third mic keep things running with jokes.

Pretty much. It would take effort to continue to leech off of Anthony now, better to just sit there and parade people in to leech off of.

I was thinking the other day how awesome/ironic it would be if Artie Lange joined the show. Great fit.

No because if you think about it from Opie's point of view, he has no talent and doesn't want to work, so taking a raise and doing less work at the expense of your fan base and future job prospects makes sense. He'll just cash his checks and get out. Also, it's better from my point of view because I'm glad I can finally get Opie-free Anthony now

No. The Artist Greg Opie Hughes and Bennington are actually great together. Norton would be great with Cumia.

Management says so. Opie actually read a praising text from management on air. Hes so embarrassing

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Yeah they were awesome on friday

No. Friday sucked. Opie was horrible. Gave up when it became apparent that Opie and Sam were determined to dominate the conversation.

And besides, I like Ron Bennington. He doesn't deserve to be stuck anywhere near Opie.

Stern was a cunt but yes, Opie should have gone to a podcast with Ant and pushed boundaries. Go back and listen to that first show back.

Ah forget it. Why rehash this shit?

He's an insincere unfunny douche. who cares

They're too old to push boundaries. Ant is trying to recreate the show in his basement in front of a green screen. Amazing radio there.

Stern was full of shit to say he'd walk if Robin got fired. Really, like he'd breach an 80 million dollar a year contract?

I hold nothing against Opie and Jim for riding out expensive contracts for another 100 or so days. Nothing.

But signing new contracts was an enormous sell-out, pussyboy move and there is no two ways about.

I agree with Stern but mostly for different reasons.

It'd be a blessing for everyone if the opester hung it up

I could understand riding out the contract considering all the staff they had to look out for. That being said, I wish they hadn't resigned. I know they have bills to pay and it's easy money, but for the way they played themselves up and how they talked about having "fuck you money" and kept threatening to quit every time their contract was up I'm really surprised they didn't.

Anyone who says yes is flat out wrong and does not exist in reality. I would love to see anyone here turn down a multi-million dollar contract to talk for three hours a day, 4-5 days a week.

In my current position I wouldn't, but if I was already a millionaire several times over I would probably stick by my partner of 20 years honestly. For all the shit Opie gave management over the years it was the perfect excuse to start something new. I think Opie is really talking about himself when he says that Ant wanted to do his own thing.

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Ant said on his show many times that he would have re-signed just like Opie and Jimmy did. And just like Opie and Jimmy, Anthony should not have been criticized for it. If Ant gets it, why don't you and why don't the other cretins in this sub?

Also you're not a psychologist.

Also you're not a psychologist.

How do you know?

are you?

what else can he say lol those 2 are hypocrite, have 0 integrity and all the shit they said was a lie

"multi-million dollar contract"

For the 10th fucking time, they never even touched that kind of money. Ant has said the only time they touched over a million was back at WNEW

I though opie had an amazing apartment in NYC and a house in the hamptons, and all of this according to Vos and Bonnie. Anthony has a giant house. Doesn't sounds like a 5 figure salary to me.

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Saying that he didn't make multiple millions means the guy is claiming he got less than 2m, safe to assume he's implying 500k-1m. I don't think anyone assumed they were getting 7 figures.

He has two college tuitions to pay, an upscale Manhattan apartment, a trophy wife, a beach house in Long Island, private schooling, taxes, whatever shitty cars he owns, his kids' dumb toys and accessories, Pearl Jam T-shirts, and whatever other cemented obligations he must meet with cash. The poor fuck is waist-deep in expenses, and the only what he can supplement the cost of his life-style is by steering the ship for another contract, even if the steering wheel is as useful as Jim's talk show career.

Don't forget the upkeep on the Philly Crew. You know how they roll.

A lot of people blindly believe his "F U $$$" claims, but I don't, for all the reasons you've outlined.

And he certainly doesn't have "F Lynsi" $$$. She divorces him, BAM!, he's on ramen noodles and mac and cheese, living in a studio apartment.

You said "Bam".

Stern was just being a typical ass but I think the rant Opie had regarding that comment was another example of him being completely full of shit. "We can't just leave, we're under contract" then months later this motherfucker couldn't wait to re-sign.

Maybe not, though Opie going the whole "We'd totally quit we'd quit right now you don't think I want to quit?!" shit and then re-signed was embarassing.

Even if he felt that, making such a huge point about it and then re-signing later proved Hoo Hoo right.

Stern talked all that shit in hindsight.

He was speaking as a man with hundreds of millions of dollars.

Not as a family man, with an apartment/lifestyle/wife way above his paygrade.

Opie forgot all that "divide and conquer will never work" shit, and ditched Anthony.

Him and Jim could not even be assed to give a support tweet until after he was fired, self preservation cunts. Both of them.

I expected this shit from Opie, but I lost a lot of respect from "righteous" Jim.

This is what happens to friendships when money is involved. The main reason you do not start a business with a friend.

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He shouldn't have quit, but he shouldn't have re-signed.

I could understand why Opie and Jim din't quit after anthony got fired, it would have opened up the door for a huge lawsuit.

However the fact that they resigned really made em look bad.

the lawsuit is bullshit, With only 3 months remaining on their contracts, Sirius would have released them from their deals if they simply threatened to 1) walk after 10/4 and 2) bash the company relentlessly from 7/4 - 10/4

Stern is full of shit.

I think he already proved this. I think one station back in the day dumped Robin, yet he kept on truckin'.

Even when he finally keels over and dies, I'm sure he's got it written down that the managers of his estate engage in a "Weekend at Bernie's" type situation to finagle one final contract out of Sirius.

I'm sure the instructions include digging up his coffin and throwing the cash inside.

Opie was the last guy on the planet who should have quit: he had no other options, as he has no talent. His only course of action was the one he took: bending over and brown-nosing to Sirius while playing dumb/vague/"trying to figure it out" with the fans, all the while distancing himself from Anthony.

At first, yes, but now after realizing what a disloyal cunt Opie is, I'm glad they are separated. I'm glad it happened and I hope they never work together again. I wish all the best for Ant and Jimmy, and could give a fuck what happens to the Dopester.

why are you such a hyper-emotional bitch, though?

Opie is relieved this happened. He didn't want to do a political/social commentary show and that's what it had become with a drunken heart attack stricken Cumia leading the way each day. Opie had gone behind the scenes to Sabean at the beginning of '14 to have him approach Anthony about toning down the racial rhetoric. Opie's other concern was about Anthony's personal life. Behind the scenes, he was disgusted about Cumia dating a 17 y/o Apology Girl.

Opie now has what he wants. It's a Ryan Seacrest version of the KROQ years of O&A.

He shouldn't have quit, but Opie really should have gone and done a podcast with Anthony. Despite what he said, it's pretty clear he was happy Ant got fired and had no intentions of doing a podcast with him what so ever.

Pretty much. It would take effort to continue to leech off of Anthony now, better to just sit there and parade people in to leech off of.

Yeah. Jimmy can't be a co-host and tell jokes. He needs the pressure off of him to let him shine. Let Opie "run" the show, Jimmy to not be the straight man and a third mic keep things running with jokes.

They should just put Ronnie B in Ant's seat.

I was thinking the other day how awesome/ironic it would be if Artie Lange joined the show. Great fit.

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