How is esd's show?

That's good to know. Dave's a good egg.

Good. Sounds like a solid gig

http://www.wrat.com/Airstaff/Dave-McDonald.aspx he answers some questions on air.

Oh my god. That's so sad to listen to. He's so much better than all of them.

I've been trying to listen to this for a while, but I'm never in my car when they're on.

If he goes back to the way he was the first few days of the Opie with Jim show (and the way he was shortly after the birth of AquaHughes #1 - happy to let it happen, less needy, less talky, etc.) I'd be all in all in with OpieRaqio if what you said is true and continues to be a thing.

I'd think that a cooler Opie would make for a happier Jim and avoid a contract hostage situation down the road.

No one but the actual "haters" want Opie to suck as bad as he has been lately. Honestly, a lot of the complaining on the sub is just people giving constructive criticism in a funny way. "Stop interrupting" was probably said 1,000 times on here. We even had a sidebar with Tittyboy in a roller.

Opie is totally capable of being a very good host, but he isn't capable of being consistently funny. Hopefully his good performance in the last two days indicates that he's realized that.

All of the "hating" is shit people have said for years. That's what's so funny; it's the same old shit but Opie is steering the ship and it's fun to see how many icebergs he hits.

It's hilarious to read. That's why I'm here. I went to that fucking Dawgshed place for Stern and it was dudes making fun of his wife and all this other actual bitter cruel stuff, and this isn't that. This is people making fun of his timing. His personality.

You can't even say this is bullying. If someone is saying "hey look at me" and you say "fuck you, dummy. Be more funny" they don't get to be upset. "Uuuuuuh, fuck you, haters!"

No matter how constructive the criticism is, if he read any of this? You guys would still be as much in the "hater" pile as any of the mean spirited threads.

Opie thinks any kind of criticism makes you a hater, so we go overboard to mock him and make ourselves laugh (since the show ain't).

So you're saying....that's the bit?

That's the bit! ™

For some reason, I still have no interest in listening to the show.

I might check it out. Thanks for the heads up.

Yeah Opie has been good the past few days. He and Jimmy seem to be getting along really well. But the main thing that i have noticed is that Jimmy has been fucking killing it the past few weeks. The man has had me laugh out loud numerous times on each show. And Jimmys characters have been better than ever.

Opie also seems to get along really well with Soder and Florentine and lets them do their thing. Both those guys have been killing it. I'm really pissed at Lorne Michaels for not getting Soder on SNL. He would have been perfect but unfortunately i think he realized that he would have got a lot of shit if he hired another white guy after all the articles written last year about there being too many.

He really got shit for hiring too many white people?!?! Fucking Christ! I don't see any Asians, Hispanics, Indians, Native Americans and wait... oh that's right, must cater to the 12% of the population group. MAINLY it's white SJW's fighting for African Americans. Ok, so by numbers let's do 2 AA's for every 10 whites. That's overly fair since Loren doesn't have to deal with other special interest. Really sad. Soder would have been great there since my girl and I both turned the 1st one off (on Hulu, last night) bc it was incredibly lame. The new Weekend Update duo doesn't do it for us. SNL is safe and clean. Fucking pathetic.

Norm nailed it in his monologue when he hosted. "I haven't gotten funnier, the show BLOWS."

I would really like to see him to just drop the fake voice/opie character and be himself and talk like himself, like his Rogan appearance. He has the ability to be normal and insightful sometimes when he isn't trying too hard to be an edgy shock jock.

This is good to hear. He's at his best when he directs the show to a point where it doesn't need him. It's why we all think he's so terrible because the old shows he'd be stuck throwing shit out hoping the people there could go off on it. I think it's why he loved Patrice so much. Listening to Patrice's old appearance opie pretty much shuts up when Patrice gets on a roll.

My only issue with the new show is they live or die by the third mic. They can't depend so much on a revolving door. If they want this to actually work they probably should bring someone like Soder in full time.

I like Soder, but I don't think I could handle him full time on the third mic. I feel like he's still a little over the top and trying to impress a little bit. I think Florentine would be ideal, I just don't think he'd want to make the commute every day.

I think Soder is just trying desperately to fit in that after he does some more he'll be more comfortable. I mean he's still under 10 appearances, while most of their regulars have been doing the show 10 or more years.

I don't think Florentine would be a good fit because he's go with the flow guy, he doesn't really start conversations, just puts in his 2 cents with whatever is being talked about. Which is suppose to be Jimmy's role.

Haven't listened to the last two days. Been loving listening to the old Patrice shows and since the contract signing, I won't lie feel a little betrayed so haven't been going out of my way to listen everyday.

But I love Soder, always disappointed when he's not on YKWD so I'll catch up today.

Not sure Patrice is a good example here. It's like saying Opie steps aside for pat Cooper and lets him talk when in reality no one is talking when either one of those got on a roll.

He's that way with most of these guys until recently when he feels he needs to carry the show. When he's directing traffic you really see how good he is the problem is needing to fill so many hours a day and when he's not getting much from the others. The reason people like Ant so much is because he was meant to carry the show while Opie is meant to direct.

I hate all of Opie's stupid shit too and the show doesn't get better because he isn't talking, but because he doesn't have to.

I hope so. I hope he does the "crazy old lady" voice, that is funny. If they do make him 3rd mic, he should def speak up because it's hard to hear him. He should take a stab at tagging other people's jokes too, or just adding to what they've already said, instead of constantly coming up with original ideas. Other than that, I think he's fantastic.

Dude, he's still a relatively new comic, only been full time for a few years now and he's on a national platform that has regulars that are now the biggest acts out there. How many comics are bigger than Burr and Louis right now? That's the seat Soder is trying to fill. I don't blame him for feeling he needs to do more, he's uncomfortable trying to make a good impression.

If you listen to him on YKWD he's more comfortable and fits into the mix well there.

Then again what to I expect from this sub, every guest is followed by a post here "didn't insert name suck badly today?"

The show drives me nuts sometimes but it seems too many people here just need to turn off the radio. The fact that you have a list of things you don't like about Soder means when you hear him coming on, just change the fucking channel.

Im gonna respond to your last paragraph: I gave Soder a shot. He sucked. The guy is fucking terrible. He's loud, obnoxious, and not funny. I DID change the fucking channel; I did not want to. It was the Opie & Anthony show; not the "Opie, Anthony And Loud Unfunny Asshole" show. So I did change the channel, after I tried to hang in with your boy Soder quite a few times. It got to the point where I couldn't stand it anymore, and like Tom papa, was an instant shut-off as soon as he sat down. (To ruin my show.) So you can see why he aggravates me.

As far his him "not being a big name comic," and you want to talk about haters in this sub? (Gesticulates pen around like Don Corleone at the big table) Let's talk about Todd Barry. I knew nothing about Todd Barry. I saw him on Louie's show a few times, I had zero impression of the guy. He came O&A, first time ever. He hung out in the background, he let the other guys have the floor, he jumped in when he could. That's how you handle a guest spot on a show. That way even if you're not Bill Burr-funny or still reading the vibe/tone of the show, you're not making a loud fucking ass of yourself for 1:45. That's what annoys me more about Soder; his instincts as a comic, at least in an off the cuff talk setting, are terrible. I don't care if you're a first month open mic'r, this is just common fuckin' sense. So don't say that to me like I'm some reactionary troll, I gave the guy a shot. Now go fly a kite or play a fiddle.

You realize everyone acts differently in different situations right? Todd Barry has been a comic for a long time, he doesn't need O&A to go well, he'll still be a headliner but maybe he'll sell out some more often. Again, Soder is a new comic trying to impress. You don't impress people by being quiet, Colin Kane learned this, talking to him was like pulling teeth. Opie tried everything to get him engaged and welp, not on the show in years.

Bill Burr, Patrice, Kelly, they are all guys that went on the show and took over. Guys like Louis actively took over the show when they were trying to do other things and it's one of the greatest moments on the show (Rumsfeld is a lizard).

You don't have to like him but saying people should act a certain way is nonsense. He's not there to plug, he's there as a 3rd mic, he's meant to help take over the show, like it or not. If he "opied" a good conversation between Opie and Jim, then he fucked up. If he's just trying to get his punches in I don't see how you can be mad at him, even if you don't find him funny.

Put yourself in his shoes ffs.

Ok, "Dr Extremes," you don't sit there and say nothing. And you also don't sit there and yell like you're in a sports bar. How about you use common sense and split the difference. It doesn't matter Todd Barry's status as a comic or whether or not he needs the show; I'm talking about him being a performer, reading a situation, and making choices. I don't care if Soder is "a new comic." If he's been on the job more than a fuckin' month, he should know how to read that room.

Put myself in his shoes? Ok: On a warm summer night in Long Island, this past July, I spent probably 3 hours in Anthony's pool with Ant, Joe Currie another old comic (forgot his name) and a bunch of other funny Brooklyn fucks. These guys were all lifelong pals, and it was just like being on the show with Vos and those guys: bunch of dudes cutting it up, busting each others balls. It was vicious. Probably about 10-12 people hanging around the pool, listening. I didn't know anyone. It was fun, but if you tried to jump in with them and you fucked up? It was about as bad as bombing on a real stage. Even worse, you got kind of shunned from the group and basically risked your fun for the rest of the night. You paid the price for fucking up everyone's funny, you don't deserve to stay in the pool, with the crew. With the pro's. (I could tell you about the Beavis Cumia Twitter account guy)

You know what I did, unlike your boy Soder? I hung out kind of in the background, I picked my spots, I only jumped in when I knew I had a home run. So I wasn't constantly in there, but when I did it was great. I made Ant spit his beer out, twice. (He used to spit in his own pool, that never made any sense to me!) I didn't steamroll over everyone, I wasn't a loud jerk off. I was a sharpshooter, motherfucker. It's really not that hard, just gotta have at least one funny bone in your body, and a tablespoon full of common sense. So fuck that guy.

While it's cool you were at a party how do you compare the two situations? You could sit there silent all night and just watch, not like it will affect your career.

You're still thinking two different people. Otto talked about it. He hated disturbing the flow of things, felt like he was a burden and in the way so he never opened his mouth unless he had something really funny to say. Even joked about how most of the time he's thinking of a line then tells himself it will be shit so he doesn't say it.

But someone like Patrice, he's just going to keep talking until something funny happens. The show did what he wanted it to do, what he allowed to happen. People bitched about him just like you're bitching about Soder but suddenly he's a god on this reddit.

Unless there was something way off on today's show that you came away with this impression as I didn't listen yet, but I just never got the impression Soder was butting in when he was on previously. I never felt he stopped the show but only tried to keep the bit going.

I also don't think Todd Barry (btw, was this recent? I don't remember him every being on the show and I've been listening since late 08) is a good comparison. Barry has nothing to lose and little to gain (a quiet appearance doesn't mean he'll never be back, again see Otto) but Soder has a lot to lose and a lot to gain, so he's putting on a show.

He talked about it on Sam's show recently. He's trying to perform, he knows it's a big deal and wants to do well so he's just not going to hope it goes well, he's going to push and leave an impression.

I don't give a fuck if you like him or not, I'm just saying from someone who has been in much smaller but comparable situations, I understand him trying to put himself out there rather than hoping O&J set him up well. Soder wants to be famous while guys like Otto didn't seem to give a shit.

The guys that you're talking about are friends of the show, on AND off the air, going years back. They were totally comfortable and fit into the group dynamic like an old shoe. It was effortless, that's why those guys were and are all the best guests. Soder's been on the show since what, this year?

If that was Otto's style, it was his style. Maybe he didn't talk as much as the other regulars, but he got his shots in and worked fine, who doesn't love Otto. I've only been on this Reddit since spring, but I compared to what I've seen or even back in the Wackbag days, Patrice was a favorite. No one ever said "Otto never stops talking, yelling over everyone, or tagging everyone else's jokes." As Frankie says in Casino, "You better clean yer fuckin loop" because Todd was just on in like June of this year.

He wants to "push and make an impression?" Worked out great for Ralphie May, didn't it? How about just be yourself and stop 'trying' so hard. Im gonna bring this next thought into a separate paragraph, so it's easier to read (not that anyone gives a fuck but Im bored at work & drank too much coffee so here I go)

I've been listening to the old shows with Patrice, they address how there are many fans who hate him. I wasn't around for wackbag days but you could hear in Patrice's voice that there were enough haters. Plus, they talk about now how many comedians hated Patrice. I'm sure people spoke out that loved him, but I'm speaking out for Soder now, so it's in the eyes of who is reading which side they take away from this discussion.

I also never fully understood what went on with Ralphie and the guys. I really hope he wasn't on the show only because of his laugh, as Patrice had an obnoxious laugh too. Ralphie was one of Ant's biggest supporters after the firing and they publically shit on him for years, making it seem it was just because his laugh. I hope he did something douchey behind the scene to deserve it at least.

Like I said though, I don't need you to agree or find Soder funny. I just find it hard to believe you can't understand his actions based on the situation he's in. I know if I was in that spot I'd go in that room with the intention of setting the place on fire, even if it ended up looking like a suicide, I'm giving it my all.

Well then, no offense, you have about as solid of a comedian's instincts as Soder himself. (In regards to the last paragraph) We're just going round and round now, so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. It was a good battle, though. ("Ya gonna do it all DAY??")

How do I compare the two situations? Ant is one of my all time heroes. It was a dream of mine to go to the Compound™. Literally, if you had a ticket in each hand: one for a night at the Playboy mansion, one for Ant's house? I'd pick Anthony's. I flew from LA to NY (Im a working class, broke faget) just to go to the Compound™. Not only do I love the guy anyway, Im trying to get a comedy career going. Ant is a good guy to know. Ant's house is a fun place to be. If I fuck up or am not on my game and/or he doesn't think Im funny? Why would he want to hang around with me. Im not a hot chick. The only thing I can offer him is the gift of laughter. (Does anybody remember laughterrr?) That's some high stakes shit; I better be careful to not do anything loud & obnoxious or unfunny, so I don't annoy the fuck out of everyone, and get asked to hang out again. (Like probably this weekend, when he's in LA. He asked me on the air the other day to get beers with him, I was the Robert Duvall guy)

Doing O&A is a huge break for Soder, big exposure. A lot of people like Soder in here, a lot of people fucking hate his guts. I think he'd be much less polarizing if he shut the fuck up a bit and settled down, didn't jump in every two seconds and get a piece of every goddamn joke that floats across the room. IM saying, his instincts should tell him to fucking relax and let their show be their show, with him hanging out That's his job. That's his place in that room. It drives me insane how much he breaks that decorum.

This... this... can't be? Opie is trying not to fuck things up? He's learning? universe implodes

I agree on the interviews yesterday, I was surprised to hear Opie coming in with some decent questions. You nailed it too, just put in a little effort and it helps a lot. I get he likes to pitch this idea that they go in without a plan but it isn't gonna work for the OJ Show

I always thought the unplanned aspect of the show worked because Ant and Jimmy can riff on anything for as long as they want, and Opie was mainly relegated to timing the segments and cutting them off to move along. In that respect, I always understood the "ship steerer" analogy a bit. Now they HAVE to plan, they don't have two aces in the hole.

tsss asshole

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Fucking XM app kept only playing yesterdays episode, fuckin pissed me off

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i used to think opie was the cool guy when i first heard of opie and anthony which was probably like 5 months ago, then i started listening a lot specifically all of patrices appearance playlist and Ant started becoming my favorite. Im currently subbed to the AntCumia Show and I hardly pay for anything like that sometimes i dont even watch the show i just like knowing i support anthony

I don't know if this has been pointed out, but Opie admitted that he was trying to "reinvent" himself. Now, whether that's just an excuse for his douchebaggery (aka "that's the bit") or he really was trying to fill a different role, I don't know but he's at least aware.

THE BIT

:D

LEAVE OPIE ALONE

http://i.imgur.com/fvbbHjw.gif

I want good radio but irs funny that opie is "good" when he shuts up and lets others talk

It's what most of us want, for the show to improve.

Some of the vehement Opie haters are in too deep to care though.

I thought todays show was pretty good but during the opie frat story i started smelling shit. Wish he wouldnt try to make himself sound so cool, says hes an honest broadcaster but lies all the fucking time. FUCK ROLAND!!!

Hopefully the Opster can buckle down and adjust to making great radio again, sans Ant.

I like Opie

Do you like turtles?

A good ship steerer sometimes lets the oceans currents do the work, rather than going full ahead against the current.

yuck

ME: THAAANK you!

God, you faggots go back and forth between hating this man and loving this man. So fucking weird.

It's weird because you're misunderstanding it (and who knows what else). Let me explain, most people's responses here have nothing to with a predetermined need to hate or love Opie. The goal is to have entertaining radio. If Opie is getting in the way of that more and more, when people know he's capable of letting it happen or even facilitating it, he'll get shit on. If he helps produce good content, he'll be praised.

It's really not that complex, hope this helps you to not spend so much time scratching your head.

I agree with you. Except I think Soder is mostly an annoying twat, but that's just me.

Haven't listened to the last two days. Been loving listening to the old Patrice shows and since the contract signing, I won't lie feel a little betrayed so haven't been going out of my way to listen everyday.

But I love Soder, always disappointed when he's not on YKWD so I'll catch up today.

While it's cool you were at a party how do you compare the two situations? You could sit there silent all night and just watch, not like it will affect your career.

You're still thinking two different people. Otto talked about it. He hated disturbing the flow of things, felt like he was a burden and in the way so he never opened his mouth unless he had something really funny to say. Even joked about how most of the time he's thinking of a line then tells himself it will be shit so he doesn't say it.

But someone like Patrice, he's just going to keep talking until something funny happens. The show did what he wanted it to do, what he allowed to happen. People bitched about him just like you're bitching about Soder but suddenly he's a god on this reddit.

Unless there was something way off on today's show that you came away with this impression as I didn't listen yet, but I just never got the impression Soder was butting in when he was on previously. I never felt he stopped the show but only tried to keep the bit going.

I also don't think Todd Barry (btw, was this recent? I don't remember him every being on the show and I've been listening since late 08) is a good comparison. Barry has nothing to lose and little to gain (a quiet appearance doesn't mean he'll never be back, again see Otto) but Soder has a lot to lose and a lot to gain, so he's putting on a show.

He talked about it on Sam's show recently. He's trying to perform, he knows it's a big deal and wants to do well so he's just not going to hope it goes well, he's going to push and leave an impression.

I don't give a fuck if you like him or not, I'm just saying from someone who has been in much smaller but comparable situations, I understand him trying to put himself out there rather than hoping O&J set him up well. Soder wants to be famous while guys like Otto didn't seem to give a shit.