I like how Joe has abandoned the "but what about my black friends" angle as his main premise, and has instead opted for the "through a series of slight interactions I did have with him, I started to just kinda feel like that maybe our friendship wasn't as valuable to him as I thought it was" argument. Joe is, as Rogan correctly identified, acting like a scorned woman, and should no longer be viewed as possessing male genitalia.
I'm pretty sure that's called "moving the goalposts" when you are losing an argument. On top of that, he's not even losing an argument anymore, he's so needy and whiny that he kept talking about it when everyone else moved on.
Because there's nothing worse you can be in the world than a woman. Womanhood might as well be retardation, right? It's no wonder you fat fucks don't get laid. The fact that you think it's insulting to be called a woman shows how shitty you all are at being men.
I'm not even a woman, retard. Not all men are sexist idiots (AKA Anthony fans). That doesn't mean I don't ever make sexist jokes, either. It means I don't believe womanhood is somehow a worse state than manhood. People can be non-sexist without being a humorless bore, despite what you morons believe.
I never implied that womanhood is worse than manhood, it is however insulting to a man to imply he has feminine features or engaging in feminine behavior, e.g. being overly sensitive, being a pussy, etc. In the same way it would be insulting to a woman insinuate that she had overt masculine features, a deep voice, hair on her upper lip, etc. My intention was to ridicule Joe, not to slam women. Saying another man doesn't have any balls does not in any way suggest that it is bad to be a woman, your whole argument is a straw man.
Except attempting to ridicule a man by comparing him to a woman IS demeaning to women. I don't think it's insulting to be said to have feminine features. The best people tend to mix masculine and feminine qualities. You really don't see how thinking that it's insulting to be called a woman is sexist? Because it isn't insulting. At all. Gender as a binary concept is fucking retarded, anyway, fatass. That's one thing that it IS insulting to be called. To be fat is to be so lazy you can't even do the bare minimum to keep yourself healthy. You pigs should all be sent to an island, so it can sink into the ocean and we won't have to look at your disgusting bodies and faces any more.
You're the one who is generalizing a group of people, i.e. the members of this humble sub-reddit. If you honestly believe that calling a man a pussy, or are offended by the term "scorned woman" there really isn't anything to discuss. Any rational person can clearly see my goal was to criticize Joe for his feminine behavior, not femininity in general. It's insulting to a man to imply that he is overly sensitive, period. If you cannot raise a legitimate point as to why my initial post was insensitive or offense towards women this is a waste of time.
Why is it insulting for a man to be a woman if womanhood isn't a bad thing? You have yet to explain that. If it's okay to a woman, then it's okay to be a woman. If it's insulting to be called a women, then it's insulting to be called a woman. Whether the person you're saying is a woman is a man or not makes no difference. If you're English, and you find it insulting to be called Irish, it's because you think it's worse to be Irish than English. This is not a hard concept. You sound like an MRA. What's your opinion on transgendered/transsexual individuals?
No, I already said womanhood is not a bad thing, and I have explained it is insulting to a man to be called a pussy, as it implies he's less of a man. It doesn't necessarily suggest, as you are arguing, that women are less than men. I'm attacking his gender identity as a man and his masculinity, not women as a whole. Wouldn't a women be "insulted" if you said she was behaving like a college frat boy for her excessive drinking and bad eating habits? It's the same notion. It can be insulting to a man to insulate he is behaving like a woman, or engaging in behavior that is more closely associated to women than it is to men, as it can be insulting to a woman to insinuate that she is behaving like a man, neither of which demeans the other.
I'm saying that it is not insulting for a man to be called a woman, or vice versa. There is nothing wrong with acting outside of gender stereotypes that are socially defined to begin with. Thinking that people need to act within a specific set of behaviors that you define as appropriate shows exactly what kind of person/people you/this sub are/is.
I agree with that, Gender identity is not necessarily the same as gender. Some women associate themselves more with masculinity as some men do with femininity. However, most men will be insulted if you call them a pussy or suggest that they are overly sensitive, whether that is a product of a social construct or not has no barring on the insult itself, which was my intention, to insult Joe. I agree with your sentiment to a degree, but still maintain that suggesting Joe is less masculine does not demean women by proxy. If you tell a women, who views herself as a women, and associates herself with the idea of femininity, that she is behaving like a man she may in some way feel insulted as you are interfering with her notion of her own gender identity. The same way men call each other pussies to insult one another, it's cognitive dissonance.
It barely seems like an insult at this point. You've explained your way out of being offensive. I was actually going to lead this into a nice dick sucking joke, but I lost my way.
Well thanks for your approval fellow smokepant82. I hope our digression has not detracted from the main intention of this post, i.e. slamming Joe Derosa. Have a nice day.
If that's what you took away from my post I think you missed the point. I never insinuated that it was bad or insulting to be a woman, only that Joe is behaving like an oversensitive douche. If the idiom were "scorned man" I wouldn't have tagged it and the end by alluding to his lack of balls, but it's not so I did.
Not every woman is a scorned woman, but every scorned woman is in fact a woman, hence, Joe is a woman and no longer has cock and balls in my eyes.
You're clearly saying "he has no cock and balls" as a negative. Everyone can see the disdain you have in your post for people with no cock and balls. You're disgusted with the idea of womanhood. Also, men can be scorned, too. The idea that only women get jealous and vindictive is sexist in and of itself. You fatties are all the same.
Yes, because I'm insulting a man for his lack of manhood, which is a negative in his case. My disdain is directed towards Joe, not women, and insulting Joe for his lack of balls is not insulting to women in any way. Obviously men can be scorned, but the expression is "scorned woman", and that is what Rogan stated earlier which is why I referred to it. You are grasping for straws and cannot properly argue the point as it is invalid in this case.
I agree, there's nothing wrong with being female. The implication, though, is that Joe is acting like a female scorned by her lover, represented by Anthony.
around 7.40 Joe once again goes into what people on twitter have said to him like it's relevant, how about you don't look at the comments then stupid, you're not in high school and twitter isn't your fucking locker, grow the fuck up.
What I don't get is why any of these people still use twitter. Soder and Sam were talking about all the hatred they get last week. DeRosa now ranting endlessly about all the hate. I never hear about people selling out shows because of twitter or talking how the praise from Twitter got them out of a dark time. It's only complaints about trolls.
I never got into Twitter and hearing these stories I don't understand how people enjoy using it. Just sounds like an evil place.
I think people that use it and are constantly upset by it, are also the type that are constantly validated by other comments. So it's a toss up for them. In the end, they get the validation, PLUS being able to bitch about peoples comments.
I never found Derosa funny on OnA and I didn't really like Troy Quan until he destroyed Derosa without even trying. Derosa, a professional stand up comic, who does media on a regular basis has a dig at Troy about his style and Troy off the cuff fucking wrecks him and Troy couldn't give a fuck what he thinks but Derosa couldn't handle it at all.
well it wasnt hard to get pissed at "why dont you go fuck some more 18yos troy!" but for troy to say to a comic that he wasnt funny was brutal but come on people troy was playing it up for the radio.
Hell, I'm a frequent SRS poster and I think Joe is a fucking tool. I understand his political stance, but you don't fuck up your friends over it. Friends are more important than politics, and DeRosa is a spineless fuck for making it the opposite. If he thinks he's going to get new fans out of this, he's sorely mistaken.
His behavior has been so embarrassing during this whole thing. Anthony was more than willing to give him the benefit of the doubt when he called in and he wanted to address it like men and move on. DeRosa was the pussy scared of public opinion from his "black friends" about him being friends with someone who got fired for something 99.99999% of the internet already forgot about.
Looks like he did a 180 on the Ant not apologizing on Red Eye thing to me.
What he said in the clip completely contradicts what he said on both Rogan's show and on the phone with Ant.
Hey Joe ask yourself this, did Ant's tweets "compromise the income of the company" (Sirus Radio) or did Sirus Radio themselves compromise the income (subscriptions) of the company when they fired Ant?
I think the only way to settle this is for Ant to tit fuck Joe's meaty man tits into submission. That way Joe gets his much needed affection off Ant and Ant gets a free go on the biggest hooters in comedy.
I give him credit for having the balls to state his feelings and opinion and stick with it. He didn't avoid the shows like others have or say nothing at all again like others. I never thought he was great on o&a but that's beside the point. He probably should just shut up about it now but he is being asked about it. Just don't expound about it as much and move on joe .
1st-don't be fooled, this all stems from him being butt-hurt from Ant not giving Joe the personal attention he thought he deserved during Ant's crisis. I know he will play the "racial moral high ground" but we all heard the Rogan interview and we aren't autistic. We can read people. The way he got so much more passionate when talking about the personal bullshit says it all
2nd-why is being silent a bad thing? Obviously you are talking about Burr but I think he acted perfectly. He clearly disagreed with Ant but kept his mouth shut like a gentleman. If you look at O&A and all the comics, they all have been involved with shitty projects. All the comics should be brave and voice their opinions every single time the people who support them do something kinda shitty? It's not like Joe's opinion about Ant was original. It's the same exact shit that Ant can read in any blog or "think piece". There is nothing admirable about the way Joe acted. He should talk privately, give his friend the benefit of the doubt and let all the other SJW do what they do.
Joe Derosa said on Joe Rogan podcast that Anthony and him weren't friends outside of the show. Now every time he talks about it he said they were friends.
did he really say they weren't friends? I remember many times Ant talking about Joe and him going out in NYC together, coming to compound parties often and even staying at Ant's house. What a cock sucker.
Well thanks for your approval fellow smokepant82. I hope our digression has not detracted from the main intention of this post, i.e. slamming Joe Derosa. Have a nice day.
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47 E-rockComment 2014-10-01
I like how Joe has abandoned the "but what about my black friends" angle as his main premise, and has instead opted for the "through a series of slight interactions I did have with him, I started to just kinda feel like that maybe our friendship wasn't as valuable to him as I thought it was" argument. Joe is, as Rogan correctly identified, acting like a scorned woman, and should no longer be viewed as possessing male genitalia.
22 Opprobriousness 2014-10-01
Take cover, for there are SJW's afoot. They will strike at you for your honesty...
5 WiretapStudios 2014-10-01
I'm pretty sure that's called "moving the goalposts" when you are losing an argument. On top of that, he's not even losing an argument anymore, he's so needy and whiny that he kept talking about it when everyone else moved on.
-13 smokepants82 2014-10-01
Because there's nothing worse you can be in the world than a woman. Womanhood might as well be retardation, right? It's no wonder you fat fucks don't get laid. The fact that you think it's insulting to be called a woman shows how shitty you all are at being men.
12 turdthief 2014-10-01
cunt.
-13 smokepants82 2014-10-01
I'm not even a woman, retard. Not all men are sexist idiots (AKA Anthony fans). That doesn't mean I don't ever make sexist jokes, either. It means I don't believe womanhood is somehow a worse state than manhood. People can be non-sexist without being a humorless bore, despite what you morons believe.
6 E-rockComment 2014-10-01
I never implied that womanhood is worse than manhood, it is however insulting to a man to imply he has feminine features or engaging in feminine behavior, e.g. being overly sensitive, being a pussy, etc. In the same way it would be insulting to a woman insinuate that she had overt masculine features, a deep voice, hair on her upper lip, etc. My intention was to ridicule Joe, not to slam women. Saying another man doesn't have any balls does not in any way suggest that it is bad to be a woman, your whole argument is a straw man.
-8 smokepants82 2014-10-01
Except attempting to ridicule a man by comparing him to a woman IS demeaning to women. I don't think it's insulting to be said to have feminine features. The best people tend to mix masculine and feminine qualities. You really don't see how thinking that it's insulting to be called a woman is sexist? Because it isn't insulting. At all. Gender as a binary concept is fucking retarded, anyway, fatass. That's one thing that it IS insulting to be called. To be fat is to be so lazy you can't even do the bare minimum to keep yourself healthy. You pigs should all be sent to an island, so it can sink into the ocean and we won't have to look at your disgusting bodies and faces any more.
5 E-rockComment 2014-10-01
You're the one who is generalizing a group of people, i.e. the members of this humble sub-reddit. If you honestly believe that calling a man a pussy, or are offended by the term "scorned woman" there really isn't anything to discuss. Any rational person can clearly see my goal was to criticize Joe for his feminine behavior, not femininity in general. It's insulting to a man to imply that he is overly sensitive, period. If you cannot raise a legitimate point as to why my initial post was insensitive or offense towards women this is a waste of time.
-5 smokepants82 2014-10-01
Why is it insulting for a man to be a woman if womanhood isn't a bad thing? You have yet to explain that. If it's okay to a woman, then it's okay to be a woman. If it's insulting to be called a women, then it's insulting to be called a woman. Whether the person you're saying is a woman is a man or not makes no difference. If you're English, and you find it insulting to be called Irish, it's because you think it's worse to be Irish than English. This is not a hard concept. You sound like an MRA. What's your opinion on transgendered/transsexual individuals?
5 E-rockComment 2014-10-01
No, I already said womanhood is not a bad thing, and I have explained it is insulting to a man to be called a pussy, as it implies he's less of a man. It doesn't necessarily suggest, as you are arguing, that women are less than men. I'm attacking his gender identity as a man and his masculinity, not women as a whole. Wouldn't a women be "insulted" if you said she was behaving like a college frat boy for her excessive drinking and bad eating habits? It's the same notion. It can be insulting to a man to insulate he is behaving like a woman, or engaging in behavior that is more closely associated to women than it is to men, as it can be insulting to a woman to insinuate that she is behaving like a man, neither of which demeans the other.
-2 smokepants82 2014-10-01
I'm saying that it is not insulting for a man to be called a woman, or vice versa. There is nothing wrong with acting outside of gender stereotypes that are socially defined to begin with. Thinking that people need to act within a specific set of behaviors that you define as appropriate shows exactly what kind of person/people you/this sub are/is.
2 E-rockComment 2014-10-01
I agree with that, Gender identity is not necessarily the same as gender. Some women associate themselves more with masculinity as some men do with femininity. However, most men will be insulted if you call them a pussy or suggest that they are overly sensitive, whether that is a product of a social construct or not has no barring on the insult itself, which was my intention, to insult Joe. I agree with your sentiment to a degree, but still maintain that suggesting Joe is less masculine does not demean women by proxy. If you tell a women, who views herself as a women, and associates herself with the idea of femininity, that she is behaving like a man she may in some way feel insulted as you are interfering with her notion of her own gender identity. The same way men call each other pussies to insult one another, it's cognitive dissonance.
0 smokepants82 2014-10-01
It barely seems like an insult at this point. You've explained your way out of being offensive. I was actually going to lead this into a nice dick sucking joke, but I lost my way.
2 E-rockComment 2014-10-01
Well thanks for your approval fellow smokepant82. I hope our digression has not detracted from the main intention of this post, i.e. slamming Joe Derosa. Have a nice day.
2 turdthief 2014-10-01
cunt.
6 E-rockComment 2014-10-01
If that's what you took away from my post I think you missed the point. I never insinuated that it was bad or insulting to be a woman, only that Joe is behaving like an oversensitive douche. If the idiom were "scorned man" I wouldn't have tagged it and the end by alluding to his lack of balls, but it's not so I did.
Not every woman is a scorned woman, but every scorned woman is in fact a woman, hence, Joe is a woman and no longer has cock and balls in my eyes.
-10 smokepants82 2014-10-01
You're clearly saying "he has no cock and balls" as a negative. Everyone can see the disdain you have in your post for people with no cock and balls. You're disgusted with the idea of womanhood. Also, men can be scorned, too. The idea that only women get jealous and vindictive is sexist in and of itself. You fatties are all the same.
5 E-rockComment 2014-10-01
Yes, because I'm insulting a man for his lack of manhood, which is a negative in his case. My disdain is directed towards Joe, not women, and insulting Joe for his lack of balls is not insulting to women in any way. Obviously men can be scorned, but the expression is "scorned woman", and that is what Rogan stated earlier which is why I referred to it. You are grasping for straws and cannot properly argue the point as it is invalid in this case.
5 Spaceman4Life 2014-10-01
You seem very upset.
3 NefariousBanana 2014-10-01
Stop it, you're embarrassing yourself.
6 breadmoccasin 2014-10-01
I agree, there's nothing wrong with being female. The implication, though, is that Joe is acting like a female scorned by her lover, represented by Anthony.
26 thatsnotwhatimsaying 2014-10-01
around 7.40 Joe once again goes into what people on twitter have said to him like it's relevant, how about you don't look at the comments then stupid, you're not in high school and twitter isn't your fucking locker, grow the fuck up.
3 insanemetal187 2014-10-01
What I don't get is why any of these people still use twitter. Soder and Sam were talking about all the hatred they get last week. DeRosa now ranting endlessly about all the hate. I never hear about people selling out shows because of twitter or talking how the praise from Twitter got them out of a dark time. It's only complaints about trolls.
I never got into Twitter and hearing these stories I don't understand how people enjoy using it. Just sounds like an evil place.
8 [deleted] 2014-10-01
Joe really needs to get off Twitter. It's basically set his career back 10 years. He's too sensitive for it.
5 WiretapStudios 2014-10-01
I think people that use it and are constantly upset by it, are also the type that are constantly validated by other comments. So it's a toss up for them. In the end, they get the validation, PLUS being able to bitch about peoples comments.
3 thatsnotwhatimsaying 2014-10-01
I honestly believe it ruined the show, even just them talking about who they blocked, when and why they blocked them, who gives a fuck
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1 breadmoccasin 2014-10-01
It killed the Opie and Anthony show. And not just the "and Anthony" part.
21 BattleChoads 2014-10-01
Ah Jesus Joe
Let it go
18 ry0019 2014-10-01
Joey Roses just digging the douche hole deeper.
18 banannnarama47 2014-10-01
Derosa is a punk faggot (rev. Al voice)
17 balderoonus 2014-10-01
Its always somebody else's fault isn't it, Joe?
3 cali_gunner 2014-10-01
Nanny, ninnying, lilting liberals can't blame themselves for anything, or ever put the blame on people who are responsible for their actions.
14 snoopkhat 2014-10-01
Sounds a lot more aggressive towards Ant than he did on Rogans show.
I think we can say that Joe won't be having a beer with Ant anytime soon.
11 Moxson4 2014-10-01
Where was that aggressiveness towards Ant, when he was on the phone with Ant? Joe was a groveling pussy.
10 Eternalforms 2014-10-01
Because he didnt burn the bridge yet. Ant went off on derosa during the vos show and more or less said he can fuck off and hes done with em.
3 xxmikekxx 2014-10-01
Damn I'd love to hear that. What did Vos say?
3 phaseMonkey 2014-10-01
He mumbled a bunch of words.
2 TriangleDimes 2014-10-01
"Fersht of all..."
2 guitarmy21b 2014-10-01
Nothing much, just trying to stay neutral since he's still friends with Joe I guess
1 Eternalforms 2014-10-01
He more or less stayed neutral since hes still friends with derosa.
1 Eternalforms 2014-10-01
Wow didnt see the other reply which said the exact same thing as me lol
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13 LoganGV 2014-10-01
I hope Ant plays some clips of this.
13 UnclePaulHarghis 2014-10-01
I never found Derosa funny on OnA and I didn't really like Troy Quan until he destroyed Derosa without even trying. Derosa, a professional stand up comic, who does media on a regular basis has a dig at Troy about his style and Troy off the cuff fucking wrecks him and Troy couldn't give a fuck what he thinks but Derosa couldn't handle it at all.
2 CUNTYMOM 2014-10-01
well it wasnt hard to get pissed at "why dont you go fuck some more 18yos troy!" but for troy to say to a comic that he wasnt funny was brutal but come on people troy was playing it up for the radio.
12 Dryder646 2014-10-01
Fuck joe. And this radio host pretending he hasnt ever listen to O&A is hailriious too
12 thebestoftheweek 2014-10-01
I think Joe imagines Gawker as real life, and thinks he's going to have a whole new fan base of SJWs.
1 NefariousBanana 2014-10-01
Hell, I'm a frequent SRS poster and I think Joe is a fucking tool. I understand his political stance, but you don't fuck up your friends over it. Friends are more important than politics, and DeRosa is a spineless fuck for making it the opposite. If he thinks he's going to get new fans out of this, he's sorely mistaken.
9 PigsArePunished 2014-10-01
Huh, look at that. 1st of october.
9 im_not 2014-10-01
Look, I mean this with all respect to DeRosa, but I really think the time is nigh for him to consider lighting himself on fire.
8 drexler57346 2014-10-01
This host asked if Opie or Anthony had ever done standup. He doesn't know much about the Opester.
12 Moxson4 2014-10-01
That would have been the perfect time for Joe to tell the guy about Opie's Original, Hilarious Elevator Show!!
He had Sal play drums in the elevator. Brilliant!!
8 Good2Go5280 2014-10-01
He needs to stick to Subway commercials.
8 CowsAreCurious 2014-10-01
His behavior has been so embarrassing during this whole thing. Anthony was more than willing to give him the benefit of the doubt when he called in and he wanted to address it like men and move on. DeRosa was the pussy scared of public opinion from his "black friends" about him being friends with someone who got fired for something 99.99999% of the internet already forgot about.
7 Ab0v3 2014-10-01
Looks like he did a 180 on the Ant not apologizing on Red Eye thing to me. What he said in the clip completely contradicts what he said on both Rogan's show and on the phone with Ant.
FF to 1:16:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZhos-kYy6Y
Hey Joe ask yourself this, did Ant's tweets "compromise the income of the company" (Sirus Radio) or did Sirus Radio themselves compromise the income (subscriptions) of the company when they fired Ant?
6 dankfranklin 2014-10-01
What the fuck is with this guy talking shit on other people's shows?
3 UnclePaulHarghis 2014-10-01
Getting more media attention. Urgh . . . Joe.
5 decmcg 2014-10-01
I think the only way to settle this is for Ant to tit fuck Joe's meaty man tits into submission. That way Joe gets his much needed affection off Ant and Ant gets a free go on the biggest hooters in comedy.
3 doritosalsa 2014-10-01
I give him credit for having the balls to state his feelings and opinion and stick with it. He didn't avoid the shows like others have or say nothing at all again like others. I never thought he was great on o&a but that's beside the point. He probably should just shut up about it now but he is being asked about it. Just don't expound about it as much and move on joe .
5 xxmikekxx 2014-10-01
I disagree.
1st-don't be fooled, this all stems from him being butt-hurt from Ant not giving Joe the personal attention he thought he deserved during Ant's crisis. I know he will play the "racial moral high ground" but we all heard the Rogan interview and we aren't autistic. We can read people. The way he got so much more passionate when talking about the personal bullshit says it all
2nd-why is being silent a bad thing? Obviously you are talking about Burr but I think he acted perfectly. He clearly disagreed with Ant but kept his mouth shut like a gentleman. If you look at O&A and all the comics, they all have been involved with shitty projects. All the comics should be brave and voice their opinions every single time the people who support them do something kinda shitty? It's not like Joe's opinion about Ant was original. It's the same exact shit that Ant can read in any blog or "think piece". There is nothing admirable about the way Joe acted. He should talk privately, give his friend the benefit of the doubt and let all the other SJW do what they do.
1 jimcozad 2014-10-01
This.
3 Aborted_Fetus_Eero 2014-10-01
It's really embarrassing how grown men are acting like jealous boyfriends on behalf of Ant. He can handle himself.
9 LouisCGhey 2014-10-01
I'm not acting.
3 rahtin 2014-10-01
I desperately hope he misses a few payments on his hat so a gentleman of colour removes it for him.
2 LookyLookyMissCookie 2014-10-01
Joe Derosa said on Joe Rogan podcast that Anthony and him weren't friends outside of the show. Now every time he talks about it he said they were friends.
1 opieanthonyjim 2014-10-01
did he really say they weren't friends? I remember many times Ant talking about Joe and him going out in NYC together, coming to compound parties often and even staying at Ant's house. What a cock sucker.
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1 akaTeCe 2014-10-01
way to keep making it about YOURSELF Joe.
1 Dagidugidai 2014-10-01
My favorite part was when he claimed he had fans
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0 Spew42 2014-10-01
WHAT IS WITH THAT FAGGY FUCKING HAT
2 E-rockComment 2014-10-01
Well thanks for your approval fellow smokepant82. I hope our digression has not detracted from the main intention of this post, i.e. slamming Joe Derosa. Have a nice day.
2 turdthief 2014-10-01
cunt.