As much as Opie sucks, you do need to feel bad about one thing...
20 2014-09-15 by [deleted]
Anthony is basically getting first dibs on the O&A fanbase from a monetary standpoint. Strictly from a business partnership that has to suck for Opie.
Think about it, to the best of our knowledge O&A were a 50/50 partnership from an earnings standpoint for just about their entire careers. Together they built the brand and O&A's name into the powerhouse it is today (and was in the early 2000's).
A lot of people and companies made a lot of money off O&A via advertising and ratings. O&A also made an amazing salary from their contracts, but their full earning potential could never be capitalized due to their connection to these companies and stations.
Fast forward to now. Due to Anthony's firing he's essentially capitalizing off the O&A brand from a monetary standpoint by himself. Yes, there was a lot of risk involved in Anthony starting TACS. However, the O&A brand is just about as diehard as it gets.
If the show had ended and the two went off in separate ways the O&A fanbase probably would have split a bit more. However, due to Opie's current contractual obligation with Sirius, Anthony has a monopoly on the O&A fanbase from an earnings standpoint.
Poor Opie, the man that "invented the show and partnership with Anthony" is now losing out on a lot of future earnings. Regardless of how shitty Opie is, this situation really has to hurt him the most. If he doesn't have much resentment towards Anthony now, he certainly will in the near future.
TL/DR This isn't an Opie vs Anthony observation. This is simply a business observation, and Anthony is definitely on the better end of it from an earnings standpoint for the foreseeable future.
61 comments
29 [deleted] 2014-09-15
You're acting as if Opie & Ant are equal in popularity.
But you're still a good man Jerry.
11 [deleted] 2014-09-15
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33 [deleted] 2014-09-15
But there's just no way to make me feel sorry for Opie. The way he bragged about being rich during your phone call was fucking pathetic.
21 [deleted] 2014-09-15
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3 unclevernamehere 2014-09-15
The consumer is paid by Sirius XM. He has to stay with the guy they didn't shitcan.
3 Motorboat_Jones 2014-09-15
Nicely done. #TheConsumer
-9 [deleted] 2014-09-15
You're stupid if you think this sub represents a majority of Opie and Anthony listeners. This shit hole doesn't even have 10k subscribers. It doesn't represent Opie and Anthony just like reddit doesn't represent society at large. Private Opie and Anthony boards? There is virtually no Opie hate. Also most people still listen to sxm over a subscription podcast. Opie is far more popular he's on the larger platform. And in other places people are still questioning if they should subscribe to ant or not. You really are the most misinformed person of all time.
9 [deleted] 2014-09-15
Go on.
-11 [deleted] 2014-09-15
This line speaks for itself. You never have anything else.
13 [deleted] 2014-09-15
Go on.
-8 [deleted] 2014-09-15
Go away.
12 [deleted] 2014-09-15
Go on.
-7 [deleted] 2014-09-15
Go away.
7 w1ckedchowda 2014-09-15
Take your own advice.
-8 [deleted] 2014-09-15
Woah, language please.
1 breadmoccasin 2014-09-15
I can never tell if you're trolling or just pounding your keyboard angrily.
27 phaseMonkey 2014-09-15
Well, it appears that the drunk guy who goes through new girlfriends every few months, and buys dinosaurs for his backyard, and gambles, and buys sports cars... saved up his money. While the other seems to put all his money into a Manhattan apartment, a wife (who doesn't work?), and 2 kids, and constant rentals of vacation homes during summers, might be in a bit of a pickledick.
15 WhiskeynPeanutbutter 2014-09-15
upvote for the use of the word pickledick
8 CowsAreCurious 2014-09-15
To be fair, his wife not working is kind of a moot point. Looking at her, what could she make, maybe $30K? That would pay for what, 2 or 3 months of rent?
11 Slippery_Slope_Guy 2014-09-15
Looking at her she could make more than a doctor as a high end escort.
7 TheRadicalMan 2014-09-15
"Pickedick"? OHHHHH! freaks out like black people after a magic trick
2 WiretapStudios 2014-09-15
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SHIT SON
1 CookieHaid 2014-09-15
HA!!!
1 Motorboat_Jones 2014-09-15
Don't forget to grab your crotch and run in place.
4 Flexibleexplosion 2014-09-15
What makes you think Opie is hard on cash? He's an apparently frugal guy who's done much less frivolous spending than Ant, and he didn't lose massive amounts of his salary early in his career due to divorce (and I know, "yet").
7 devilsadvocate33 2014-09-15
because trophy wife (I'm sure she ain't "frugal")
because living in NYC
because raising two kids
because he wasn't making as much as was reported
But I don't think he's "hard on cash"........whatever that means.
But he sure as fuck doesn't have "FU/never-have-to-work-again $$$"......unless Lynsi agrees to a major downsizing of lifestyle and doesn't divorce him.
1 SirGimpy 2014-09-15
Hasn't he admitted the reason he still lives in an expensive Manhattan high-rise apartment vs. a decently priced suburban home is because of his wife?
If that's the truth, then that's reason enough to believe she is not a frugal person.
2 devilsadvocate33 2014-09-15
I didn't catch that comment, but yes, it would be.
Also, tipsily blurting out "we're gonna gut the fuckin' joint!" while showing her Hamptons summer digs to Bonnie would be another indicator that Mrs. Hughes doesn't do things on the cheap.
And he can't say no to her spending. Given the fascinating glimpses into his "personality", I'm sure it's only the money keeping her there.
He starts saying no, she leaves, and gets half......which, as any divorced man will tell you, winds up being a lot more than half.
Either way, frugal-cunt Opie is in hell.
3 tags33 2014-09-15
He spent a lot of money on a Manhattan property? Well no way to get that money back...
6 phaseMonkey 2014-09-15
True... But those monthly fees to just be in an apartment that you "own" are quite excessive... when you don't have a nice income rolling in anymore.
24 aftershave 2014-09-15
Fair enough, but keep in mind that Anthony has had a plan B for years. Before we start feeling bad for Opie, think about the fact that he has done nothing to deserve the O&A fanbase cash. Anthony has poured lots of money into building a studio over the years, while Opie kept uploading these no-effort, piece of shit videos to youtube.
And the fact that Opie has been saying over the years that he doesn't want to re-up, which turned out to be bullshit.
The market does not generally reward lazy people, unless you're in finance or government.
16 Wsallgood 2014-09-15
Opie bought podcasting equipment. Literally (by his own admission), never took it out of the box. Then, a few years later, gave it away.
That tells you everything you need to know.
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11 halareous 2014-09-15
HE WAS RECRUITED
3 CookieHaid 2014-09-15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_0W1B_Ns0Q
6 [deleted] 2014-09-15
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6 cali_gunner 2014-09-15
OP missed this point that Anthony worked on his own to put this together. "O&A fans" are not under some kind of contract where they have to pay money to either of them. If they happen to like one person a lot more than other by this point in time that's that. Lead singers have split from their groups before.
4 breadmoccasin 2014-09-15
It's like the ant and the grasshopper. Hey, the ANT and the grasshopper! Boo.
1 WiretapStudios 2014-09-15
He probably has Plan B on tap in a candy machine at the bar IMO
20 _TheConsumer_ 2014-09-15
I'd tend to agree with you. Anthony definitely "got there first" and is the only option at the moment.
However, I do not agree that the fanbase would split evenly if the two both started podcasts on the same day.
Opie is not built for talk radio. Yes, he was intelligent enough to surround himself with talk radio talent - and launched a really great career. But, he alone is not worth listening to. He isn't entertaining.
On the other side of the equation, we have Anthony. He is knowledgeable on a ton of topics, has a vice-like mind when it comes to old TV/Movies/Commercials/Historical Events, does impersonations and can also talk at length about current events.
So, if I only had $7 to spend on an Anthony podcast or an Opie podcast, I'm going with the guy who has the potential to make me laugh.
I'm not going with the guy who thinks humor is getting me to click on a basketball trick shot video or thinks that entertainment is listening to someone try ketchup for the first time.
9 phaseMonkey 2014-09-15
Opie needs to become a radio producer. I think XM might have a few openings for the 60s on 6 channel.
9 TossyMcSalad 2014-09-15
he can even intern with radio legend Dennis Falcone to learn the ins-and-outs of programming a music channel.
9 phaseMonkey 2014-09-15
I honestly think a Dennis and Opie show is where they belong.
5 deegan258 2014-09-15
Don't do that to Denny.
2 Lasagna_Hat 2014-09-15
Also, Opie and Anthony live completely different lifestyles
Ant drinks, fucks young girls, gambles, and throws parties. Opie has a wife and kids
Even if they were equally talented, Anthony would have a leg up
14 timmythegreat 2014-09-15
Let's face it, if it wasn't for Anthony there wouldn't be a show and Opie would be herding Buffalo Bettys. Yes Opie "the destroyer" brought some bits in and back in the "good old days" would do anything to get O&A media attention. Anthony (IMHO) was the only person who was funny (until they brought Norton on). Opie isn't funny, he lacks basic intelligence on current events and couldn't hold an argument to save his life. Any guest or caller that was on the show, Anthony could take on, have amazing factual arguments and be hilarious to boot. Whenever a caller or a guest has ever argued with Opie he either would yell at them or totally blow up their spot.
Opie wouldn't have gotten where he is today without Anthony, simple as that. The argument could be made that Anthony wouldn't be here without Opie, obviously we all know Opie did bring him on.
4 BeerCanThick 2014-09-15
Opie was trying to get money off of fans. What do you think OpieRadio is?
He's doing quite well for himself. Viral Spiral did recruit him, after all.
4 DeryDerpette 2014-09-15
Should we forget how many times Opie sociopathically threatened to walk away from the show because his precious needs weren't being met by Sirius? If he'd intentionally end (or at least baselessly threaten to end) a show that his co-hosts still enjoy doing and the fans still enjoy listening to, then I think Anthony deserves the lion's share of the residual fan-base.
Or how about the way he bulldozes constructive criticism and crucifies those who submit it as haters? He doesn't appreciate the fans and doesn't deserve the fan-base or to reap any rewards from the disastrous abortion or a product that he's responsible for now. Anthony deserves to be on the better end of it.
4 NashuaDan 2014-09-15
Opie has been mailing it in for a few years now. He is basically stealing money from Sirius at this point. I feel ZERO sympathy for him.
4 CUNTYMOM 2014-09-15
why are you worrying about how millionaires are doing financially you 9 to 5 fuck.
3 bcb77 2014-09-15
Not true. Anthony's talent is what made the show so popular. Opie was a DJ on a shitty LI radio station before Anthony joined and made the show funny.
2 Threkin 2014-09-15
How dare you drag Spuds Buckley through the mud! That's too far!
3 marsgamingchannel 2014-09-15
Don't cry for Opie. He took the easy money contact. He wasn't forced at gunpoint to stay.
3 Moxson4 2014-09-15
Not that I give a shit; but it might be close to impossible for them to continue a friendship in the long run. The only reason I say that is because the one thing that will break up a friendship quicker than a woman is if the 2 friends got into something where money is at stake. And think of the millions between them, and the millions that Opie could have gotten, but won't if the contract isn't re upped. Opie had to know deep down that Anthony was the main reason most people listened.
That is a metric fuck ton of money involved in their partnership. And one of them is a thin skinned, insecure, cry baby, with self delusions about his place on the show. There is almost to much money involved to just shake hands and walk away.
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2 dukefett 2014-09-15
Well in the end Ant deserves more money now, he was losing half his pay to his ex for a long time, during their high earning years.
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2 FaroutIGE 2014-09-15
I thought I've heard on a few occasions that Opie made more money as the guy that initially made the show and brought everyone else in? Love Ope but I don't think he's in any sort of financial bind right now, and it's fairly obvious that if he didn't bring Anthony in, the show would very likely have never made any sort of headway anyways.
Ant was fired and Opie chose to go after the paycheck instead of hitting the drawing board once again after decades spent together. Talent won out. That's the way she goes.
2 AntsCamera 2014-09-15
I feel bad for Bams kids.
1 Gefl 2014-09-15
Eh I wouldn't worry about Opie. I'm sure he'd be fine if it all ended now and he didn't branch off to a new show.
The one I worry about more on the show is Jimmy. I'm sure he makes a good amount from the show but for the amount of material he brings to the table I'm guessing it isn't anywhere close to what he should get.
1 red_eleven 2014-09-15
Luckily, he's starting making the rounds on tv before this fell in the shitter and he had to rely on his standup.
1 FrunkisOA 2014-09-15
If Opie would have told Anthony to wait two months, he'd leave Sirius and they would go online there is no question that Anthony would have waited.
So I don't really feel bad for the new company man
1 wifflebb 2014-09-15
Highly doubt any of this.
1 mckboy 2014-09-15
STOP SAYING STANDPOINT
1 doppeljr 2014-09-15
Anthony is also benefiting from the fans who canceled their subscriptions from Sirius/XM and had a few bucks laying around to keep listening to Anthony. I canceled 3 XM subs which made it easy for me to justify subscribing to Anthony's show. I am glad that I did. I enjoy it and hope that he keeps doing what he is doing. It is refreshing, interesting and funny. He has access to a lot of talent and knows how to use that for our benefit.
Thanks Ant.
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0 wizardnug 2014-09-15
You can hear both shows daily? How does that give Ant a monopoly?
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-1 alexreleases 2014-09-15
I feel great about this.
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