A plea to Little Jimmy Norton.

63  2014-09-15 by monkdick

Please for the love of fuck don't renew a contract with Sirius. Please drive to Long Island and team back up with Ant. The suffering is too much. This sinking ship that is Opie and... is too terrible to watch. After that abortion of a show this morning (How much longer is Opie gonna ride Bruer for stories about his dead and dying parents?) I can't listen anymore. The old show would have played laugh tracks over everyone of those sentimental death stories from callers. Unfunny, fucking disaster that keeps getting worse.

Please abandon ship, and let the captain Opie go down with it.

After 10 years dedicated I can honestly say, I'm done with O and ...

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Anthony, Jim, and Ron Bennington

Opie can do a show with Fez - Fez will never have to talk again, and Opie won't even notice.

With Pepper and ESD as producers. Dream show

I see ESD got a job at a morning show. It was on his twitter today, I'd give more details but I'm driving

who cares if pepper is involved... esd def should be brought on though, IF that ever happened

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You cant just throw two alpha's in there together like Ant and Ron. They are both so big, they need their own shows.

not every day

To me, Jimmy never does well when Ron is in the studio. Ron doesn't know or purposely ignores Jim's characters.

There seems to be some hostility between them, I have no idea when it started.

I don't eat soupppp

Hostility? I've never heard either one say anything bad about each other. He just has a vastly different style of comedy than Ron does. I think Jimmy does the same thing with Ron that he does with any comic that comes in - he lets them roll and jumps in once in a while, unless it's someone really close to him, like Vos or Bobby.

I.. that is PERFECT!

bringing ron on would bring a lot more subscribers to the table (jimmy included ofcourse) and its not like ron is getting paid the crazy bucks like o&a, he couldnt be too expensive.

HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON........wait..... you didn't even say anything did you?

Get dan soder in there too please

Soder has his own show now.

Please, no one is abandoning any ships. Jimmy will GLADLY sign another contract with SiriusXM if they offer it. Gigs with big, steady paychecks and good healthcare aren't too common in showbiz. They are all praying that the company makes them a halfway decent offer.

Also he has greater access to big stars for his adorable boy pictures with celebrities.

they buy their won healthcare - listen to the show, they've discussed it more than once

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Jimmy can probably get insurance through one of the Hollywood guilds. The money is probably good, but it's going to be drastically less this time around. He might be happier having more flexibility with his schedule now that he's bigger than O&A.

Absolutely. The Facial Tic Guild and No Chin Guild have first rate health insurance.

He's a sweet sweet boy

That's true, I think also with his AHB Disorder he is covered under obamacare anyway so at least there is that.

I think he said the first day back that losing the radio income would be half his income.

That's a big hit, but it's also going to take a hit when they re-negotiate, and his options for other work have been severely limited with the commitment to the show.

And access to celebrities for photos. Jimmy won't get a shot with Rhianna at Ant's house.

with the money ants making right now... and the possibilty for a lot more subscribers if jims brought on, jim could be turning down a lot of cash if he stayed with SXM. every 13000 subscribers the AC show= a million dollars (they already have hundreds of thousands that pay to listen). jim on the ac would bring subscribers soaring. ant claims hes already making more than he was.

Do you actually believe that bullshit? He might be GROSSING more than he was at SXM (I doubt it) but he has lots of expenses now. SXM paid for those expenses when he was an employee.

melissa stetten mistakingly said on a verrry old LFTC approx how much ant was making a month (ant then shut off the mics and had a talk with her) it accounted for a little over a million a year.

to make a million dollars a year off his current show, he only needs approx 13000 listeners paying 7$ a month. They already had hundreds of thousands of listeners that had to pay to listen in the first place (yes other content blabla i know). at 23k subscribers he would be making double.

He himself claims that hes making more money now and that he should thank sxm for the firing. are the figures REALLY that farfetched that you think hes lying?

btw 90% of the equipment hes using he had already bought years prior, i think his biggest expense has been bandwidth and paying for staff. bring on jimmy and those subscribers would soar.

i think his biggest expense has been bandwidth and paying for staff.

I think you totally underestimate how much employees cost, and you confuse or conflate gross vs. net earnings.

im confusing fuck all

Alrighty then. Keep drinking the kool-aid and have a nice life.

"Keep drinking the kool-aid" wow what a douchebag.

Cocksucker, i took the time to explain how its not so unlikely and you chose to be a stubborn little cunt. thanks for wasting my time.

hurr durr gross vs net earnings hurr durr, what a moron you are.

Wow, why a smug little cocksucker you are.

Tell ya what, buddy. Go make a million dollars. Then tell us how much you have left after you pay Federal income tax, SS withholdings and all the other withholdings that are HIGHER as self employed than as an employee, and then pay New York State income taxes.

Ant's doing very well. But you don't have a fucking clue how the world works. Gross vs. net is a basic business concept, and the fact that you're mocking it shows you're a complete and utter fucktard.

You are 100% correct about everything you said.

but ofcourse hes not seeing every penny that his subscribers are spending. telling me i was confused about gross vs net annoyed me, its like NO SHIT pal everyone understands that.

We dont know what hes paying his employees and we dont know how much hes paying for bandwidth (its surely a lot). i was just elaborating to the man that its not so unlikely thats hes making good money (taxes and all other expenses included) when he needs so few subscribers to reel in millions. this coupled with the fact that i know he had hundreds of thousands paying to listen before, i dont thinks its so farfetched that hes doing well right now LIKE he says himself.

To have gone into such detail of how its not so unlikely that hes making good money then to have this dumb cunt message back to me hurr durr gross vs net hurr durr, just annoyed the fuck out of me. he was just being a stubborn fuck unwilling to concede even a little in any respect. im not mocking gross vs net you stupid little shit. now fuck off.

It wasn't about conceding anything. It's about Ant not banking (net) as much as he did at SXM. You seem to think he is. I disagree, esp. when you factor in benefits such as healthcare, taxes, liability insurance, etc.

TLDR-It's not how much you earn...It's how much you keep!

We're both guessing here, as Ant's subscription rates are not public info. I'm guessing that he's not doing as well has he did at SXM.

well when i go into such detail about how its not so farfetched a prospect and then to get no concession in the reply of even a ya maybe? just a plowing through of your original position coupled with a "i think youre CONFUSED about gross vs net" its going to bug me. and then the kool aid shit.. but w/e, fair enough.

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Yeah, as if Ant wants to be Jim Norton's boss. Keith the Cuck was already working for him, so that was probably an easy transition, but to have Jimmy working for him? Ever have a friend as your boss? Are they still your friend (or are you still working for them?)

they wouldnt look at it that way they would be cohosts and jimmy would bring tons of subscribers of his own to the table. they would be partners.

"as if ant wants to be jim nortons boss" you people are so dumb its annoying. anywaaay the guy has said hes going to try to get jimmy on board already.

pleeease dont reply to this

I replied, so what are you going to do about it?

good healthcare?

Anthony could offer him a giant paycheck; much more than Sirius is offering him. And the paychecks from Anthony will be every bit as "steady" as the ones from Sirius; TACS ain't goin' nowhere. And if Jimmy joins the show, subs will go through the roof.

And there wouldn't be any of these down-to-the-wire contract wranglings every 2-3 years with Anthony.

And with Ant, he'd have much better hours (but a much shittier commute), and the world of difference between working with Ant and working with the comedy-destroyer.

How in God's name could Anthony offer Jimmy a GIANT paycheck? trying to figure out why people think TACS is some million dollar money maker to the point that Anthony could afford to pay a full time co-host who already has a higher profile radio gig.

With his millions of subscribers and billions of dollars, of course.

The answer to your question is a combination of hopefulness and an a few off-hand remarks on the show or Twitter. Most of the people in this sub want Ant to succeed (me included), and do so to the point of raw belief that he's got the numbers.

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"to the point of raw belief" in what Anthony said.

Do you believe he's lying/exaggerating?

I don't; he ain't Opie.

I think if it was close to what he was making at Sirius, he'd have said that instead, with a kind of a stupid "not bad" expression on his face, because, all things considered, even that would have been a major win.

Lying? No. Exaggerating? Yes. He wants to have come away from this whole situation the winner (as anyone would), so why wouldn't he make the story a little sweeter here and there to help that cause. I'm not saying it makes him a bad person - I think it's human nature to do that. The thing about the Sirius money is that was it sustained, and he hasn't been flying solo long enough to know whether or not he'll keep the "more than Sirius" money, let alone if it was more than just a projection based on a few weeks of signups. Any business as young as his would have similar problems, so I'm not wishing for his failure or anything - I just think it's too early to tell still.

As long as the O&J show sustains its level of......"quality"......I think Anthony will sustain those numbers, and probably even add to them; people go where the funny and interesting talk is, and leave where it isn't.

There's a definite "will the O&J show pull out of this nosedive towards a steaming pile of shit?" wait-and-see vibe among a lot of listeners. As people realize that no, it's not going to improve, more people will sign up for Ant's show.

And if Jimmy joins Anthony's show, or even if he doesn't but the O&J show doesn't get renewed, it won't be a question of TACS sustaining subscribers, but how many it will add.

Since Anthony's proven just about every naysaying idiot's prediction wrong, I think it's fair to give him the benefit of the doubt. Not even "benefit of the doubt", but just believe what he says is true.

Why not? What face would you be losing by doing so?

Who gives a fuck if it's "too early to tell"? We're not fuckin' stockholders over here.

It's really, really fucking simple...

Anthony is already making more now than he was on his last Sirius contract, i.e. he already has "extra" to share with Jimmy. I'm sure he wasn't even expecting to get up to his Sirius-$$$, so there's probably even a little more "extra" to begin with.

Jimmy joins the show, subs go through the roof: mo' money!

subs go through the roof, more sponsors: even mo' money!

That's where the GARGANTUAN paycheck would come from.

I don't believe for a second Anthony is already making more than he made a Sirius.

There's no way he does that commute full time. It would be too difficult for him to do spots in Manhattan or tour on the fly.

I have gone to see little Yimmy twice the past year...and both times were in half sold (maybe) comedy clubs. I think you might be over-estimating his drawing power. DeRosa was playing to about the same number of people at these same clubs.

Little Yimmy already has a built in fanbase with Ant's subs. If he goes there, he locks himself out from the rest of the world. He needs to be somewhere else with a wider reach.

You're looking at this asshole-first.

Jimmy's got tremendous drawing power in the O&A universe. Do you honestly doubt that subs would go through the roof with Jimmy on board?

If he was going to reach "the rest of the world", wouldn't he have done it by now?

And what are the odds of doing it on the O&J Titanic?!?

Also, Jimmy is friends with almost every comedian out there; there's no shortage of podcasts he can go on to plug his gigs.

And I think you're kind of making my point when you say he's playing to half-sold comedy clubs, because that's while being on the almighty Sirius. So that kind of proves it's not that great of a gig, doesn't it?

I doubt those gigs drop to 1/3rd-sold if he goes to Anthony's show.

He should be fine. Jimmy has mastered the art of jumping ship at the perfect time.

Sometimes, however he's still on the KISS KruiseĀ© ship with his lil' sailor hat on.

I'd love to hear Ant/Jim/Ronnie B as much as the next guy, but I think Ron likes the dad role way too much. 70% of his bits are mired in condescending sarcasm that requires having punching bags around.

Yeah, as much as Ronnie seemed to have fun when he sat in on O&A, I think his dream scenario is having old Fez, East Side Dave, Earl and Pepper surrounding him.

Althought i agree with you i think Yimmy will stay (if Sirius reups them that is) with the Opster. A shorter commute plus i dont know how the pay scale would change if Jim was to jump to TACS compared to what he makes on Sirius. I do however think Jim will show up at least twice a week in the near future and act as a part time cohost to Ant. The only thing that makes me think it has a realistic shot of happening would be if Opie keeps pushing for more of a serious talk format over comedy, then i could see Jimmy leaving and Sam stepping in on the mic more often (i dont like the idea either) as Opie and Sam have the chemistry Ant and Jim have together. And by chemistry i dont mean Op and Sam are entertaining but they bounce off each other naturally and seem to have more topics in common to discuss.

At least if Sam takes over it doesn't matter because we won't be listening

This would be amazing.

If he can get a new contract with similar money to his last he will definitely re-sign with Sirius, Anthony or no.

Anthony, Jimmy and Ron Bennington on the same show would be beyond amazing. Only been listening to Ron and Fez a few days and I'm already hooked (I like Pepper right now, does that change?). But I think Jimmy as co-host on TACS is the best realistic hope right now. Opie doing a music show on another channel makes absolute perfect sense ("I've always been a big music guy....big music guy....Zepplin....And I'm like Jimmy I love Sabbath...big music guy growing up....it's really always been my passion...") but as loyal as Jimmy is I don't think he can ignore the fact that most of the former fans thinks O+J stinks, and it's 90% because of Opie.

Pepper is funny and he knows how to play along with whatever Ronny is doing. Centaur 4 life.

Pepper is the best alcoholic, druggie, gambling degenerate on the radio and I love him for it.

Ron is great at bullying the idiots who work with him and instigating fights within the staff. I like him where he is. Also, I don't think Jimmy doing TACS is realistic as you said, unless he moves for the show.

Chris Stanley Pepper Hicks is a good egg. And he has been co-hosting for many years without getting paid as a co-host.

And he is a half horse half druggie alcoholic gambling man.

I've actually gone back to listening to Hoo Hoo in the morning....that tells you all you need to know.

I've been thinking about doing that too

I hate to sound like the other assholes in here, but...just stop listening. I did, and my life is for the better for it. I love Jim but I can't handle him in this mutated freak format of the show. Let's all hope he's on Ant's show once a week from here on in, and let that be your weekly fix.

I couldn't agree more.

This. Seriously. There are so many great podcasts out there now - Joe Rogan, Smodcast, Mohr Stories, Dan Carlin's shows....why the fuck are you still listening to a show you clearly don't even like anymore?

It beats Bob and Tom in the morning...

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I agree with the OP. Jim needs to bail on the talentless egomaniac Opie.

I'm only listening to Opie and Jimmy for Jimmy. Jimmy gets in a good one now and then off the guest, but Opie gives him nothing.

The death stories almost caused me to drive off a fucking cliff.

I haven't listened to a single Opie show since Anthony's show started.

I don't think Jimmy would do more than a day a week if he left O&J.

He already said that he'd have to do more comedy gigs to make up for losing his Sirius gig and I doubt he would want to make that drive multiple times a week for the pittance Ant could pay him.

I think Ant could make him a pretty good offer in reality. Jimmy said on OJ last week that ant is doing VERY well financially with the new show, much better than with Sirius. If Ant thought he'd get even more subs with Jim on board I think he'd be willing to make it worth his while. So I don't think it's what he could pay but what he would pay.

I guess the real question is what would Jimmy accept and how much is Anthony willing to give up.

Dang is the show that bad now? I actually want to listen to it lol.

Is anyone still streaming the O&J show? Even if it sucks I want to hear the decline after all these years.

This guy puts up shows:

https://www.hulkshare.com/kylegates30

Thank you!

Yes, pleaseeee! I'll gladly pay more for TAC&JMS

The suffering is too much? How about you just stop listening to the fuck show so you stop suffering? Idiot.

Amen!

oh shut up

Boo.

Your giving too much credit to jimmy norton. If he was that good he could carry the show himself. You can only use your child fucking and tranny jokes so many times before they get old. Make a plea to opie to join anthony...

Anthony is the one who fucks children. Jimmy fucks/gets shit on by trannys.

Please Jim, abandon the guy that effectively made your entire career what it is. I don't think he's gonna listen.

Aw, baby boy...are you gonna cry baby boy?

AHH! Baby Boy, Are You Going To Keep Using Jimmy's Line Baby Boy? Are You Going To Ever Speak Like Your Self Baby Boy?, Or Are You Unoriginal, And Try To Talk Like Jimmy Because The Real You Is So Boring And Dull, Nobody would Listen To You Baby Boy?

The Next Time You Try To Make Someone Feel Stupid Baby Boy, Think For Yourself And Don't Purposely Try To Talk Like Jimmy, Baby Boy, Because We Will Catch It Every Fucking Time Baby Boy! Stop Trying To Bust On People. You're Not Smart Enough To Be Effective Baby Boy!

Why did you waste the time to capitalize every word you posted?

Agreed. /u/Moxson4 comes off as a jackass. A retarded jackass who capitalizes EVERY word.

My phone sometimes does that for no reason :/

Why did you waste the time to capitalize every word you posted?

not every day

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