I think its safe to say the subscriber number is pretty high , I never bothered to even try to sign up for XM since im an international listener and I obviously do not own a satellite radio.
It's really easy through anthonys site though.
You'd be surprised how many non americans listen because of youtube clips and the other nonmentionable ways.
This is pretty much the first time we get to pay for our entertainment, yes there's online streaming in xm but I live in scandinavia. The timezones do not match my work schedule.
Well, it's not like he picked up everyone from SiriusXM and added everyone who was a fan but not a SXM subscriber.
I listen to SXM for music as much as I do for O&A(J) and my wife only listens to the music channels. I did not cancel SXM when Anthony got fired. I also am not a subscriber of his show because I can't watch it in the car, and that's my only time for a show like that.
That's how most magazines / newspapers operate. Subscriber numbers are only used as guide to advertising costs. Subscription revenue is inconsequential.
Inconsequential? You think SXM or Anthony are making more from advertisements than they are from subscriptions. To call it inconsequential is straight up retarded.
well we're both just speculating but I would put it way under 10k, and the 100,000 views is just how many times people have refreshed the stream and it's obvious Ants hangers-ons were refreshing the page to get the views up. I'm not saying this because I want Ant to fail because I do want him to succeed, I just think some of the numbers being thrown around are generous.
U idiots saying it is low are fools. The first episode had a live stream counter close to 7000. For most of the globe this was not in their time zone and they watched a replay. His Facebook page has over 30000 likes and his twitter close to 20000 followers. One could assume he has over 15000 subscribers. To those who are pessimistic and want him to fail, too bad. He is doing very well.
The first week he had 126 paid. Perhaps it went up after that but the number is in the very low thousands at best. Any other number you heard is for the benefit of Sirius. Consider the numbers he is boasting would make him the top paying podcast of all time putting him at 10x Rickey Gervais numbers when RG figured out the paying podcast model would never pay the rent. So, Ricky Gervais failed with the paid podcast model and KKKlanthony was the most successful paid podcast in the history of mankind in a week. Yeahhhhhhhh, maybe not so much
first week after announcement he had 126 buyers. maybe more by the time he went live. If you believe the numbers he was showing on the screen you are the supreme sucker. Do you think the view numbers were up there by mistake? Low 4 figures at best.
Low 4 figures is a lot different than 126. I don't understand where you are pulling the very specific number of 126. I admittedly don't know shit, but if he only had a thousand subs why would he be continuing to put money into the show like he has ? Just by pulling some numbers out of my ass I would think he had to have at least close to ten thousand subs.
His first video had well over a thousand times more live viewers than your figure of 126 paid subscribers. Even if you account for people reloading the stream, your number is still comically far off from reality.
Didn't Ricky Gervais take what was at the time, the most downloaded podcast (which was free) in the world (got a record in the Guiness book of records that Adam Carolla later nabbed) and start charging for the content through iTunes with news-worthy levels of success? This was in like 2006 or 2007 so what exactly are you comparing to when you question numbers one way or another?
Without a doubt second month subs will be lower than month one.There would have been scores of people who were keen to watch the first week who had no intention of subscribing long term.
Because he is not a publicly traded company so its none of your business?
What single content platform would give subscription numbers? Not even the free ones do, what would be the upside for that action? I can't think of one unless you have critical mass and you want everyone to know. Anthony does not have critical mass, there is no upside so I think he, like any other rational minded person with a privately owed business would tell you to go fuck yourself.
Are you a child?
Edit: You deleted your comment like a baby boy, so I'll just respond to what you wrote here:
Are you asking for an example?
Andrew Sullivan's political blog and podcast gives monthly updates on revenue and subscriber statistics. His logic is, since it's an independent subscriber-supported venture, his supporters should know the health of the project.
That sounds like weak logic, the listeners are customers, not partners. They aren't investing, they are buying a license to content.
Sharing crucial information for the "health" or the project, even if that information itself could be detrimental to the health of the project is just circular bad logic. So if this chap I've never heard of would do that, its probably just political posturing and posing because it lines up with his views that he shares with his listeners. In other words, its a selling point and so I would take those numbers (and reasons) with a grain of salt regardless.
Well based on the viewer count during the FIRST show and he mentioning off camera while the mic was still on, "Holy shit that's incredible! We'll be over 20,000 in no time!"
Why do people think the numbers are going to go up? It's not like there's been an increase in publicity for/about the show. In fact, I haven't seen a single clip or highlight from the show that would make me want to subscribe or watch and I'm a longtime fan.
People stay more loyal if they think they are part of a niche group. If suddenly people found out that he has over 100k subscribers (not likely at all), then people will start to feel less bad about pirating the show.
Sirius keeps track of the number of phone calls live shows get, app streams and On-Demand app numbers.
Stern has mentioned it in the past, Opie once bragged the O&A channel sometimes got more listeners than Howard 101, and Ronnie B. Has talked about their online numbers being off the charts compared to the rest of the garbage on Raw Dog.
Opie has said many times, that Howard is lying about the number of listeners. He knows this because Sirius does not have a way to track the amount of listeners to each show. Opie probably did brag and lie, he does that sometimes
Yes, they look at phone calls, apps, Audible downloads, surveys, online listening, and whatever else to get a vague idea of number of listeners. They are not actual numbers.
That sounds true. They put all those stations in a single signal that is sent, so it is a stateless protocol. They do use other techniques and polling but its not accurate.
The first episode had 300.000 views in 24 hours. For the first few episodes the live viewership was displayed and it never dipped below 15k. I don't know why they took the counter down but most people here have commented favorably on the quality of the show.
Because, unless you're a massive company who decides to do that, it's business 101 to keep those private... Cmon, are people trying to spin this like it's embarrassingly low?
Before, you could see how many views the episodes were getting, his first show in the archive was at 100,000 views after a couple days and after a few days was at around 170,000. Every new show the first week would pretty quickly jump to 60-70k and then move steadily up after that.
I've been assuming from what I've seen that he has somewhere around 50,000 subscribers, which is just fine. That's more than fine.
Why should he? Is it any of YOUR fucking business? Why the fuck do you think you're entitled to know? Just fucking die, and take your whole family with you.
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26 Biohzd79 2014-08-17
They are probably lower than he lets on
He doesn't want people calling in and saying they pay his salary.
There is no benefit of making it public, only give it to advertisers.
7 Frappo 2014-08-17
I think its safe to say the subscriber number is pretty high , I never bothered to even try to sign up for XM since im an international listener and I obviously do not own a satellite radio.
It's really easy through anthonys site though.
You'd be surprised how many non americans listen because of youtube clips and the other nonmentionable ways. This is pretty much the first time we get to pay for our entertainment, yes there's online streaming in xm but I live in scandinavia. The timezones do not match my work schedule.
5 HLef 2014-08-17
Well, it's not like he picked up everyone from SiriusXM and added everyone who was a fan but not a SXM subscriber.
I listen to SXM for music as much as I do for O&A(J) and my wife only listens to the music channels. I did not cancel SXM when Anthony got fired. I also am not a subscriber of his show because I can't watch it in the car, and that's my only time for a show like that.
I'm sure I'm not the only one.
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-6 thehighground 2014-08-17
I would bet its barely 2k at best and most likely under 1k
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And you're basing this on what information?
Oh that's right, fuck all.
1 Slippery_Slope_Guy 2014-08-17
I think you're off by an order of magnitude at least.
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1 greenlightning 2014-08-17
PERHAPS MORE DAN DAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hey I got the joke :P
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2 small_penis_syndrome 2014-08-17
He been twitting about that man grill shit
0 Yummy_Blue_Waffles 2014-08-17
That's how most magazines / newspapers operate. Subscriber numbers are only used as guide to advertising costs. Subscription revenue is inconsequential.
5 Clown_Shoe 2014-08-17
Inconsequential? You think SXM or Anthony are making more from advertisements than they are from subscriptions. To call it inconsequential is straight up retarded.
22 RupertRooksby 2014-08-17
Because you're a fuckin' mook, that's why.
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Why you wanna call 'em or sumpthin'?
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5 BumbiBestie 2014-08-17
There's no advantage to him revealing the numbers to anyone other than advertisers.
3 TossyMcSalad 2014-08-17
because of thermite paint and fears of a full-blown quanspiracy.
1 thrillated 2014-08-17
Mind control!
3 sdpcommander 2014-08-17
His first episode had over 100,000 views if I remember. That might give some idea.
2 vincentgallosdick 2014-08-17
You cannot be implying that he has even 10% of that number in subscribers?
-2 Slippery_Slope_Guy 2014-08-17
Why wouldn't he? I would estimate he has around 20-30 thousand paying subscribers.
-1 vincentgallosdick 2014-08-17
well we're both just speculating but I would put it way under 10k, and the 100,000 views is just how many times people have refreshed the stream and it's obvious Ants hangers-ons were refreshing the page to get the views up. I'm not saying this because I want Ant to fail because I do want him to succeed, I just think some of the numbers being thrown around are generous.
3 ChippyKasem 2014-08-17
U idiots saying it is low are fools. The first episode had a live stream counter close to 7000. For most of the globe this was not in their time zone and they watched a replay. His Facebook page has over 30000 likes and his twitter close to 20000 followers. One could assume he has over 15000 subscribers. To those who are pessimistic and want him to fail, too bad. He is doing very well.
2 LeoNaptha 2014-08-17
The first week he had 126 paid. Perhaps it went up after that but the number is in the very low thousands at best. Any other number you heard is for the benefit of Sirius. Consider the numbers he is boasting would make him the top paying podcast of all time putting him at 10x Rickey Gervais numbers when RG figured out the paying podcast model would never pay the rent. So, Ricky Gervais failed with the paid podcast model and KKKlanthony was the most successful paid podcast in the history of mankind in a week. Yeahhhhhhhh, maybe not so much
4 lurchdr 2014-08-17
126 ? I have no clue of an actual number but that seems ridiculously low. Am i missing something....
1 LeoNaptha 2014-08-17
first week after announcement he had 126 buyers. maybe more by the time he went live. If you believe the numbers he was showing on the screen you are the supreme sucker. Do you think the view numbers were up there by mistake? Low 4 figures at best.
1 lurchdr 2014-08-17
Low 4 figures is a lot different than 126. I don't understand where you are pulling the very specific number of 126. I admittedly don't know shit, but if he only had a thousand subs why would he be continuing to put money into the show like he has ? Just by pulling some numbers out of my ass I would think he had to have at least close to ten thousand subs.
4 Slippery_Slope_Guy 2014-08-17
His first video had well over a thousand times more live viewers than your figure of 126 paid subscribers. Even if you account for people reloading the stream, your number is still comically far off from reality.
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3 Spokker 2014-08-17
It's not going to be news anywhere unless he fails because he's now connected to white supremacism.
1 fuckjeah 2014-08-17
Didn't Ricky Gervais take what was at the time, the most downloaded podcast (which was free) in the world (got a record in the Guiness book of records that Adam Carolla later nabbed) and start charging for the content through iTunes with news-worthy levels of success? This was in like 2006 or 2007 so what exactly are you comparing to when you question numbers one way or another?
2 snoopkhat 2014-08-17
Without a doubt second month subs will be lower than month one.There would have been scores of people who were keen to watch the first week who had no intention of subscribing long term.
-1 alexreleases 2014-08-17
If they actually watched the first week, then I can promise that number wasn't very high, and will be easily covered by late subscribers.
1 fuckjeah 2014-08-17
Because he is not a publicly traded company so its none of your business?
What single content platform would give subscription numbers? Not even the free ones do, what would be the upside for that action? I can't think of one unless you have critical mass and you want everyone to know. Anthony does not have critical mass, there is no upside so I think he, like any other rational minded person with a privately owed business would tell you to go fuck yourself.
Are you a child?
Edit: You deleted your comment like a baby boy, so I'll just respond to what you wrote here:
That sounds like weak logic, the listeners are customers, not partners. They aren't investing, they are buying a license to content.
Sharing crucial information for the "health" or the project, even if that information itself could be detrimental to the health of the project is just circular bad logic. So if this chap I've never heard of would do that, its probably just political posturing and posing because it lines up with his views that he shares with his listeners. In other words, its a selling point and so I would take those numbers (and reasons) with a grain of salt regardless.
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0 frostyswirl 2014-08-17
Watch out! This guy knows his shit and is not afraid to take everyone down a peg!
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2 Chip--Chipperson 2014-08-17
oh boy
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1 Danielson799 2014-08-17
Wait long enough and someone will leak his advertisement costs.
1 midnitefox 2014-08-17
Well based on the viewer count during the FIRST show and he mentioning off camera while the mic was still on, "Holy shit that's incredible! We'll be over 20,000 in no time!"
Pretty sure it's well over 20,000 now.
1 METHYLCYCLOPROPENE 2014-08-17
Why do people think the numbers are going to go up? It's not like there's been an increase in publicity for/about the show. In fact, I haven't seen a single clip or highlight from the show that would make me want to subscribe or watch and I'm a longtime fan.
1 frostyswirl 2014-08-17
People stay more loyal if they think they are part of a niche group. If suddenly people found out that he has over 100k subscribers (not likely at all), then people will start to feel less bad about pirating the show.
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0 CowsAreCurious 2014-08-17
Why did O&A never give their subscriber numbers when they were on SXM? For the same reasons.
3 Lasagna_Hat 2014-08-17
SiriusXM doesn't keep track of how many listeners tune-in to each station. Ant knows how many people subscribe to his show.
Not the same reasons
1 BumbiBestie 2014-08-17
Sirius keeps track of the number of phone calls live shows get, app streams and On-Demand app numbers.
Stern has mentioned it in the past, Opie once bragged the O&A channel sometimes got more listeners than Howard 101, and Ronnie B. Has talked about their online numbers being off the charts compared to the rest of the garbage on Raw Dog.
1 Lasagna_Hat 2014-08-17
Opie has said many times, that Howard is lying about the number of listeners. He knows this because Sirius does not have a way to track the amount of listeners to each show. Opie probably did brag and lie, he does that sometimes
Yes, they look at phone calls, apps, Audible downloads, surveys, online listening, and whatever else to get a vague idea of number of listeners. They are not actual numbers.
2 phlammo 2014-08-17
They were waiting for Spiral Viral to get back to them.
2 Avirium 2014-08-17
I was told when I called in to sxm to cancel that they have no way to quantify who listens to what. I wish that was a joke.
2 fuckjeah 2014-08-17
That sounds true. They put all those stations in a single signal that is sent, so it is a stateless protocol. They do use other techniques and polling but its not accurate.
2 jakdak 2014-08-17
Yup, there's no way in the satellite distribution protocol to actually tell what folks are listening to.
XM used to do surveys- haven't seen one of those since the merger.
And of course its easy to tell what the online listeners are selecting.
1 omninode 2014-08-17
The funny thing is they'll finally know how many people listen to O&A by how many subscriptions get cancelled when they go dark in October.
0 SocialJusticeSucks 2014-08-17
He's holding back the numbers just to spite you, you dumb cunt.
-1 anonimescu 2014-08-17
The first episode had 300.000 views in 24 hours. For the first few episodes the live viewership was displayed and it never dipped below 15k. I don't know why they took the counter down but most people here have commented favorably on the quality of the show.
-1 phyrexianlovepump 2014-08-17
because everyone will be jelly
-2 alexreleases 2014-08-17
they'll be green wit envy or sumthin
-2 alexreleases 2014-08-17
Because, unless you're a massive company who decides to do that, it's business 101 to keep those private... Cmon, are people trying to spin this like it's embarrassingly low?
Before, you could see how many views the episodes were getting, his first show in the archive was at 100,000 views after a couple days and after a few days was at around 170,000. Every new show the first week would pretty quickly jump to 60-70k and then move steadily up after that.
I've been assuming from what I've seen that he has somewhere around 50,000 subscribers, which is just fine. That's more than fine.
-6 FresnoJefferson 2014-08-17
Why should he? Is it any of YOUR fucking business? Why the fuck do you think you're entitled to know? Just fucking die, and take your whole family with you.
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0 frostyswirl 2014-08-17
Watch out! This guy knows his shit and is not afraid to take everyone down a peg!