i think Opie hates his guts.

But he worships weeze. Hate to break it to opie. But ant has done more for his career. And spent way more time with opie than weeze.

He doesn't appreciate Ant. In Opie's mind the dynamic is Opie the Pro saved Ant the Goof from a fate of Knocking Tin. Opie doesn't realize that without Ant, he's fetching breakfast for Brother Wease. Opie always says he can go somewhere without Ant and succeed. He's been as delusional as to say he could replace Larry King or host the Tonight Show. He thinks he was the talent. He probably thinks he was carrying Anthony!

Along with the lack of appreciation, there is a lot of resentment because Ant is funnier and people think Ant carries Opie so as soon as Ant was gone, The Opster thought it was going to be his time to show everybody wrong. We're not even 4 weeks into the experiment and it is petering out, imo.

When Ant's show turns out to be an unfunny trainwreck of drunken rants about race and guns, can we then admit that Ant needs Opie as much as Opie needs Ant?

Fucking NO.

If that happens, we can then admit that Ant needs someone else. If he actually needs someone to "steer the ship", he should get someone who doesn't do a terrible job of it.

People defending Opie are constantly confusing Anthony's inability to direct a show with Opie being good at it. He's not. Deep down, he fits in better with the morning zoo radio crowd, and the only reason his hack radio personality succeeds is because Ant and Jim have been there to pull him out of it.

It worked for a long time. It might not have worked very well towards the end, but there's plenty of blame to go around for that.

Yeah but I'd argue that it worked for a long time despite Opie. The problems with Opie didn't just start springing up recently. In fact, he's gotten better over the years. Still awful though.

Why the hate for Opie? What does he do(or not do) that's so bad?

Let me be clear that I don't hate Opie like some people seem to. I'm sure he's a decent guy, but hearing him bring down a show I love as many times as I have makes it impossible for me to not actually hate his radio personality. I think that Jim and Anthony provided the most interesting radio show (radio OR podcast) ever, so I've listened a lot (because people love to ask "why do you listen then?").

As far as what he doesn't do: everything. Out of the hundreds of 4-hour shows I've heard from the gang, Opie has contributed so little meaningful dialogue that it's crazy. Sometimes he works by carrying the other half of the dialogue with Anthony, but his half is never interesting, insightful, or funny. It's talk radio and the so-called show-runner never says anything interesting. He's just someone for a more entertaining person to bounce dialogue off.

As for what he does do that's bad, he constantly interrupts people who he should let talk (almost never for a good reason), he steers the show but usually into a less interesting topic at a bad time (the topics that he has planned out are usually put together by other people working on the show BTW), there are certain things that contribute a lot to the show that he won't let happen. He's the host of a radio show that constantly trashes people, which provides some of the most entertaining bits of the show, and yet people can't even mildly joke about him or he gets pissy (most guests know to not even try). Any time this last part gets brought up around here, people love to post the "paralyzed Opie" bit. One fucking bit is all anyone can ever reference in his years of radio. It's on probably the most brutal show of trashing they've ever had, and it's just a hypothetical situation they're joking about, and Opie still has to say throughout "alright alright!", and play the victim like "I can't believe you trashed me after I told you about the scariest moment of my life".

I'm not one of the goons on here who has some vendetta against Opie. I've tried to like him - I wish I did. I just think he's awful at his job and he doesn't fit in at all with the 2 people he's working with and the most entertaining guests they have on the show.

*EDIT: I didn't downvote you BTW. Nothing wrong with your question.

Great post spot on. Also if i may add- that in the slight offchace that he does say something that gets a responce from ant or jim he repeats it so many times you want to change the channel. He is infuriatingly stupid. He couldn't be more annoying if he tried

Not only that, but he's the Strawberry Blonde God of going to the phones at the exact wrong time. If I didn't know it was just incompetence, I'd call him a a maestro at bringing the show to a screeching halt with a bomb caller that he's just going to interrupt or some retard that was burnt out years ago like Bobo or Lady Di.

I'd love to hear 20 hours of No Phone Radio.

I've listened for long enough that I'm just barely scratching the surface of what he does poorly on the show, but no one wants to read an essay on it so I kept it (relatively) brief.

But you're absolutely right. I just commented about this in another thread, but the earliest show I heard from them is from their first XM days in 2004. They've bitched about how awful the callers are for all 10 years since then, but Opie still takes the callers right in the middle of good dialogue all the time. He's done it for 10 years straight, and then he bitches (sometimes at them) when they're bad.

Yeah, we know they're bad. You know they're bad. YOU are the one taking the calls.

And I'm not saying they should never take calls - sometimes they're looking for someone who has a unique viewpoint on a certain subject so they ask people to call in. Okay, fine. But Opie will take a random call to get a random listener's completely uninteresting opinion on a subject that funny people in studio are already having a good dialogue about and it completely kills the flow.

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Shaq Balloon.

Don't think he was being serious, and it was funny

"Wait wait, no no no no, HOLD ON HOLD ON!"

These are all the laugh killers that Opie said in the clip I was listening to, as I was reading your comment. About 20 seconds of reading your pro Opie crap and he KILLED Ant and Patrice bringing the funny. Opie is absolutely a kill joy... Ant may need someone else, but not Opie...

I vote for the Anthony and Bill Burr show... Jesus, Ant social views and Bill Burrs black wife AND a visual element to watch the inevitable meltdown?!? That would be great shit...

He would always fuck it up when Ant and Patrice were bringing it. I was like "SHUT UP OPIE, THIS IS GOLD"

This 100% its not opie who saved ant, its the other way around. Mr "ive been in radio since I was 18" only hit it big in his 30's when he meet ant. I also think he is very unintelligent and is frustrated since he is failing without ant since he is suppose to be the professional

He really is incredibly stupid on so many levels

"18 years in radio" really contradicts " I don't know what we're supposed to do now. "

Also rob Liefeld has been drawing comics 30 years. There is visual evidence He still sucks. This 18 years in radio delusion is enraging because it doesn't mean shit.

Thanks for introducing me to Rob Liefeld. What a cunt.

No, he says he was in the industry since he was 18. So over 30 years experience and he can't fly by himself.

how is he failing without ant? the show may not be as funny but its probably still getting half a million listeners easy(most likely a lot more), there where tons of dud shows this year even with ant, in fact id say there has been less duds overall since he left although its a much smaller sample size and the ones that where duds where much worse than if ant was there.

I don't know how the viewers or money situation is, I just know I am not enjoying it as much, a few thousand people cancelled and Opie is gonna get lowballed on the contract.

Intern Adam was right all along

He's given Anthony tons of credit over the years. What show do you listen to?

This! Spot on.

You know, if you have to make a drama out of it, can you make it a less hackneyed one for us? This is so simplistic it could make afternoon soap writers wince.

I think the first show back summed up his true feelings on Anthony. They get on each others' nerves sometimes, but at the end of the day he has an amazing life because of him meeting Anthony. They formed an amazing TEAM. That's what some here don't get, as talented as Anthony is, it was the two of them together that was the true magic.

They have had their share of problems, but he said himself, Anthony is like a brother to him. The two of them have spent more time with each other than anyone else in their adult lives.

And he's probably also angry too. As much as I don't think Anthony should've been fired and it was a mistake made hastily by Sirius, it still is Ant's fault. He could've sat on it and saved it for the air and said the exact same things he tweeted and it would've been great radio. Instead he blew up the show. I don't think Opie blames Anthony as much as he blames Sirius, but I'm sure he's angry at the whole situation. On top of that, dumbass fans act like they have to pick a side and relentlessly hassling him (and Jim) on twitter acting like they should give up their sweet gig because Anthony got fired for some bullshit that ultimately he brought on himself.

I think Opie is telling the truth when he claims they lead different lives. Opie is a very old dad to two toddlers and Ant acts like he is in college but with millions of bucks.

Dannnnayyyy

He's jealous of Ant's superior wit

Anthony Cumia is an isolated weirdo. His only friends are his employees (Keith the cop), retards (bobo, Big A), and teenage girls who fuck him to get back at their father (Apology Girl.)

Ant is just a creep. He doesn't apologize for this.

So asking what Opie thinks of Anthony is like asking what someone thinks of their crazy uncle. They probably don't think of them at all; most people don't associate with people who are nuts.

To say he doesn't think about him at all, is retarded. Opie is constantly on Twitter and fans throw the Ant stuff in his face all the time.

Opie has been having to listen to "Anthony is the talent" for over 20 years by management, friends of the show, and fans. You don't think he will be watching the outcome of Ant's solo career closely?

I do agree with you mostly, but he's an entertainer, and to a certain extent, a character on the air. We don't really know how many friends he has because we have nothing to do with it.

Don't forget the valet parkers at the Borgata.

You're a queeb.

At least he fleshed out an idea, regardless of if you agreed with it or not. You added nothing. You did annoy me by saying queeb, though.

How about saying why you think he is wrong?

I'm actually surprised I got upvotes!

A lot of successful people are eccentric, selfish, and isolated. Howard Hughes basically had no friends, only employees. It kinda goes with the territory; in order to get good at something you really have to dedicate yourself to it 100%, and that frequently means isolating yourself.

Probably one of the reasons that Opie is so mediocre is that he appears to have a fairly normal life off-mic.

"In the end, Fowler concludes, Hughes was not psychotic. There was never a time when he couldnt rouse himself to deal rationally with a situation. But, he writes, he was a disturbed man."

http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal_mind/forensics/psych_autopsy/4.html

I didn't realize we needed a cleverly thought out explanation before calling someone a faggot in this sub. eh hem... you gigantic faggot.

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Jimmy called in to Ant's show the first day and it sounded like they both enjoyed it a lot.

It's alright that Opie didn't, but you knew he wasn't going to. I honestly can't even imagine what the conversation would've been like. I think it's pretty obvious how they feel about each other. I really don't like Opie but I actually sympathize with him in this situation. I think they liked each other at one point but they grew apart and yet their careers forced them to still see each other every day and act like they were the best of friends. That shit's difficult to do.

I think there's very few friendships that aren't harmed by talking to each other, 4 hours a day, every day, for 20 years.

He's jealous because he's unfunny, but he also thinks he's better because he has a family.

If they don't renew on october, I don't think opie can do anything as good as Ant's show, or Jimmy's vice show. He needs to reup with Jimmy or he's gonna suck dick.

Also, the race and political issues give him a good excuse to hate him without it being a talent and envy issue.

Professionally, I think he sees Ant as an amazing radio talent. That's why he got with him in the first place.

Personally, I think he sees Anthony as a very closed off guy with a lot of emotional baggage from his past that he's stuffed down over the years. I think he sort of sees him as a sad person: a guy who got raped by his ex-wife for years, a guy who had an abysmal life for years in Long Island, and a true racist who can't come to terms with his hatred.

But overall I'd say that Opie doesn't really understand Anthony, and none of us do. Anthony is the master of keeping people at a distance. Looking at him like some stupid Long Island guido millionaire with a penchant for young girls is completely missing the complexity under it all.

I think his attitude changed completely once he got married, and has a wife and The Philly Crew to answer to.

I wouldn't be surprised if his refusal to do a podcast at Ant's house has more to do with the wife than Opie's feelings on the matter.

Opie used to enjoy fun like what they do at Ant's house. Now it's a big fucking deal that he took a hit off a joint at Rogan's place.

I'm kind of with you. But Opie married a fan, so I can't imagine he's in a situation where he's really whipped. I think he doesn't want to do a show in anthony's house because 1. The drive to and from long island really is exactly as bad as they make it sound, 2. It's way easier to get guests in Manhattan than LI, 3. Opie has always felt like it's his show featuring Anthony as a co-host. I think going to Ant's house to do Ant's set up from Ant's basement would make him feel like he's relinquishing too much power.

Why would he drive to Roselyn heights to do a podcast. Even Ant has to know it's not the optimal place to do if.

After spending several hours with eachother for basically 200 days for 20 years you just get sick of people. These 2 were BFFs for like a decade, spending every day with eachother both in and outta work. Then Opie got married with children and Ant went through a midlife crisis. They still like eachother but are just at different places in their lives. Also Ant has gotten ridiculously political and racist over the past like 5 years and Opie doesn't seem to really give a fuck about any of that stuff (and the little he does tell us, he definitely leans left). Plus Ant has all his gladhanding, degenerates, and creeps he hangs out with and Opie probably looks at them like losers he wants nothing to do with

I think they were close friends who drifted apart and kind of hold a grudge against each other for how they've changed.

Ever have a roommate who is really shitty and sloppy with communal space? Like they never do their dishes or something similarly small and annoying. Then you decide, "Fuck this, I'm not doing ANY dishes, mine or his, and he'll have to finally take care of his own shit." Then you just have a sink full of twice as many gross dishes. So instead of being slightly annoyed, now you're furious and have no dishes. Meanwhile, the roommate has no idea any fucks are being given about the god damn dishes in the first place.

I feel like Opie has that same kind of feeling towards Ant. Like he felt like Anthony didn't spend enough time doing show prep or otherwise investing in the show so Opie finally decided, "Fine, fuck this, I'll only work as hard as he does." But since Ant's a little better at winging it than Opie is, they were able to keep limping along with little to no structure.

I think Opie kind of sees Ant as the kid who breaks all the rules but never gets in trouble.

I think you kinda nailed it.

I've been listening 3 years and there was always this weird underlying tension between the two. You can just tell that they are both tip-toeing around each other. Their lives have changed and they slowly lost their ability to communicate with each other like they used to. And as a result, they are not really able to resolve their conflicts - so they just kinda avoid each other.

But they don't hate each other. It's just what it is.

I can even see them working together again. I remember hearing they didn't talk to each other for over a year after they got fired in 2002.

He is probably somewhat jealous that people see Anthony as the "talent" and he is just a button pusher...but hey....it made him millions of dollars. Cant be too mad. If it weren't for Ant doing those hilarious impressions and bits early on when they were in Boston and then NYC when they reaaaaally blew up, the show would have not had the same level of buzz.

Who Cares!

Opie is a democrat family man and Ant is some kind of right leaning libertarian racist crazy uncle guy. I think they're both tired of each other's shit by now, who wouldn't be. I think its a kind of justice that Opie after years of threatening to quit at anytime is now forced to stay on the show and help the people involved have their jobs for at least a little while longer. Opie probably sees Ant as a sort of pathetic figure, and he's right, but at the same time Ant and Jim are what really carry the show, without them its just Opie being the boring straight man most of the time. I don't think they hate each other really but its kind of like when you're 20, your friends mean way more to you then they do when you're in your 40s. After OJ is cancelled I don't see Opie being involved in any big program unless he hooks up with Ron. Ant's show could potentially be great but I think he's gonna sink it by trying too much to do it "my way" and turn it into a drunken rant podcast that won't have the same appeal.

You're right that Anthony is pathetic, but that's part of his appeal.

I think there's a part in all of us that wants to embrace our inner "Cumia"

I'd love to live alone in a Mansion on Long Island, with a Jaguar, Escalade, giant pool, amazing gun collection, and movie theatre etc. I'd love to bang teenagers without any emotional attachment. Just pay them to leave like Mel Gibson. I'd love to win 250K in blackjack. I'd love to drink like I'm in college.

Anthony's life may not be perfect, and may be incomplete or pathetic to some, but who wouldn't want to live like that for a week?

You guys are wasting more time on whether these guys like each other or are "friends"? Stop being such petty queers and just listen to the show, or both shows, who gives a fuck. "I want to know their feelings, it's important", ugh.

Ant didn't visit Opie's babies when they were born. Huge insult. Especially since these guys were closer than brothers at one time.

Only opie knows the answer to that ya silly goose.

I think he blames Ant for wrecking the show.

He probably thinks Anthony is a narcissist, racist (one time on air Anthony said something like, "I'm not a racist, and Opie immediately said something like "you should hear what Anthony says when the mics are off" This was years ago. It was really awkward in the room after that.)

Opie probably also thinks he is paranoid and emotionally disturbed because of his unstable household (spaghetti on the wall), alcoholic and abusive father, and by being especially unattractive during his teen years.

I've thought for years that the reason Anthony loves teen girls is because he's making up for lost time. Whether it be subconsciously or consciously.

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You're all overthinking this shit.

As much as you may be annoyed with each other over all sorts of things, bros who's been through so many things for 20 years won't betray one another that easily.

If it were that easy, Ant would have been somewhere else years ago, since a lot of people wanted to hire Ant.

Well you know, they've been working together for years.... and it's only natural.... I mean look at Penn and Tel - oh you mean really? Fucking hates him.

I don't know and I don't care

Opie knows deep down if he never found Ant he would've ended up being just all the other radio DJ hacks he makes fun of and ridicules on the show, while at same time knowing Ant would've found a way into entertainment or showbusiness and be successful at whatever he would've done. Opie's success was more dependent on Ant than the other way around, and the fact almost every O&A knows and realizes this totally eats at him.

Too be honest I think Opie really wants to have sex with Ant but Ant thinks Opie is too old.

I love how much you guys think Opie doesn't matter. Jim and Ant clearly stuck up for Opie any time his relevance came into question. You all feel like you know more than Ant and Jim when it comes to Opie's position? On top of that, how bout you use your neckbeard brains for 2 seconds. First off, Opie is an easy target, he makes it easy for you to bash a shitty show. Without Opie, are you comfortable attacking Ant or Jim? No, obviously, you're not. You let them slide when they do a shit show. Secondly, listen to this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VjF4uxXz4Q#t=485 Opie's line isn't funny at all, it's stupid, who cares, but it leads into some hilarious moments from both Jim and Ant. Like it or not, Opie knows how to steer these guys into fucking hilarity. So, discount him all you want, but once he's gone, Ant and Jim will no longer be as funny as they were on O&A

Really think he "steered" them with that line or the other two are just such quick witted comedians that they can riff off it?

yes he did, he asked who invented it and then jim and ant joked about who invented it.

that's an excellent question and you could really argue either way. However, I default off of the comments of both Jim and Ant where they have stated to callers how important Opie is in the flow of the show. So, these Opie haters, what they need to admit then, if Opie really is as shitty and useless as they'd like to believe, if that's the case then their heroes super Ant and little Yimmy are liars.

Say neckbeard again.

neckbeard

If it wasn't for anthony opie would be a jocktober show at best. He'd probably be a p.d. for a jocktober show.

Opie is already a jocktober show. He has so many embarassing crutches etc.

They're colleagues, sometimes more friendly than at other times. They aren't particularly close, but there's no reason to think either one dislikes the other. Why would they?

I'm sure this isn't dramatic enough for the little girls here (the ones you see in this thread who insist on making a soap opera out of Opie and Anthony's career because it's easier for them to understand that way), but I think it's closer to reality than anything else on offer.

I think this is true to a point. There is plenty of shit that goes on behind the scenes...

like Ant made jokes on Twitter about waiting too long at FH Rileys last year. Monday comes around and (only seen on Paltalk) you see Opie throwing a big fit and leaving. The only reference to the incident is when Jim says "Will everything be OK?" and Ant goes "ugh yeah, I'll smooth it over." Opie comes back a few days later

To say Opie (who is very sensitive) only sees Ant (who abruptly left Opie to fend for himself after 20 years) as a colleague and nothing more, is equally as silly as the fan-fiction-soaps that get thrown around.

True. When I say they're colleagues, I was emphasizing the neutrality that word implies. Sure, they've had blow-outs (probably more than we know), but my point is that they're neither the best of friends, nor are they bitter enemies. I think they have great respect for one another, and if their relationship is conditioned by anything, it is that.

The nimrods here are just overdramatizing things because that's all they understand.

I think this topic has been discussed too many times.

It's quite relevant at the moment.

How is it relevant? It's gossip that no longer matters for either show.

It could provide some insight into what might happen in the future. Besides, we're here talking about the show all the time, so isn't there some interest in what is goes on behind the scenes?

My question to you is why do you not want it talked about? Should we leave Britney alone? These guys aren't your friends, they are public figures.

They arn't your friends either. It's not that I don't want it talked about, but I don't see a reason to talk about it. You are full of shit when you say it might concern the future. There isn't much of a future, and they have their own ventures. Gossip and speculate about the individual shows or the relationships that exist on the show that you know about it. It's fucking creepy wondering about how they feel about each other. Might as well wonder how two actors who did a few movies together feel about each other because they might do a movie together again one day.

I tend to agree with you that they won't be getting the show back together after October, but there still could be a chance. We aren't close enough to the situation to know for sure.

I just tend to want to know the truth about any situation and any subject. I love to pull away the bullshit and find the truth. I'm not usually interested in any sort of celebrity gossip, but since we talk about the show so much, in this case, yeah I want to know the real deal.

I give credit to Opie for not crying on the air when he found out he would lose his radio partner!

Opie has a huge crush on Ant because this forum is full of gossiping faggots.

Couldn't agree more.

Let's assume you're not a complete hen and you're joking about giving a shit about two men and their personal relationship in the midst of a work place environment.

Just do it. Blow your fucking brains out.

And I think Opie is a lot more of a socialist than he publicly reveals, probably due to guilt or in fear of being ostracized, and I think he was annoyed or offended whenever Ant would rant being the fiscal conservative Ant is which never really helped with their existing problems with each other. And something tells me Opie is probably a huge gun control advocate too.

But he worships weeze. Hate to break it to opie. But ant has done more for his career. And spent way more time with opie than weeze.

yes he did, he asked who invented it and then jim and ant joked about who invented it.

that's an excellent question and you could really argue either way. However, I default off of the comments of both Jim and Ant where they have stated to callers how important Opie is in the flow of the show. So, these Opie haters, what they need to admit then, if Opie really is as shitty and useless as they'd like to believe, if that's the case then their heroes super Ant and little Yimmy are liars.