Well some would say that Chris Kyle didn't really thank Jesse for his service either by lying and saying that Jesse said he's glad some soldiers had to die while at a funeral service for a soldier....
Why are you so convinced he lied? Because Ventura's attorney argued that the stories of the 11 witnesses for Kyle weren't corroborative enough to pass whatever legal muster is necessary to be established in that particular court? If you're basing your belief he deserved to win the case on that, I won't argue and don't really care. I just want to know why you're so personally 100% convicted in your certainty about what actually happened and what didn't.
If a jury looks at all the evidence and awards a loon like Ventura a win that tells me that there was NOTHING convincing about Kyle's story. Also the fact that his publisher's made him not use a name because they didn't want to get sued tells me that the story couldn't be corroborated.
From the story, the jurors were instructed NOT to try and determine what happened and what didn't, ONLY whether Ventura was defamed or not. To a 10 year old they may be little different, but given all the nuances of the law in our litigious society, the difference is enormous.
It's argued and won thousands of times a year in this country that someone - even though they told the truth - is guilty of defamation.
In order to determine defamation you have to first know if the story was true. If it can't be determined true you are only halfway there. Now, you also have to prove that the story wasn't just untrue, but was also intentionally made up. These standards are even higher than just proving someone a liar. You need to prove he is a liar and he knew he was lying. This just strengthens my case.
And it's also worth noting that instead of trying to prove the story in the book true, the defense tried to prove that Ventura didn't have a character that could be defamed. That is pretty much a tell that the story was horse shit.
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-1 kgt5003 2014-07-29
Well some would say that Chris Kyle didn't really thank Jesse for his service either by lying and saying that Jesse said he's glad some soldiers had to die while at a funeral service for a soldier....
1 packitchofsositch 2014-07-29
Why are you so convinced he lied? Because Ventura's attorney argued that the stories of the 11 witnesses for Kyle weren't corroborative enough to pass whatever legal muster is necessary to be established in that particular court? If you're basing your belief he deserved to win the case on that, I won't argue and don't really care. I just want to know why you're so personally 100% convicted in your certainty about what actually happened and what didn't.
1 kgt5003 2014-07-29
If a jury looks at all the evidence and awards a loon like Ventura a win that tells me that there was NOTHING convincing about Kyle's story. Also the fact that his publisher's made him not use a name because they didn't want to get sued tells me that the story couldn't be corroborated.
1 packitchofsositch 2014-07-29
From the story, the jurors were instructed NOT to try and determine what happened and what didn't, ONLY whether Ventura was defamed or not. To a 10 year old they may be little different, but given all the nuances of the law in our litigious society, the difference is enormous.
It's argued and won thousands of times a year in this country that someone - even though they told the truth - is guilty of defamation.
1 kgt5003 2014-07-29
In order to determine defamation you have to first know if the story was true. If it can't be determined true you are only halfway there. Now, you also have to prove that the story wasn't just untrue, but was also intentionally made up. These standards are even higher than just proving someone a liar. You need to prove he is a liar and he knew he was lying. This just strengthens my case.
And it's also worth noting that instead of trying to prove the story in the book true, the defense tried to prove that Ventura didn't have a character that could be defamed. That is pretty much a tell that the story was horse shit.