Do you think Anthony will be able to sustain living the high life with his new income?

0  2014-07-25 by [deleted]

I was thinking about this last night, trying to estimate how much Ant will pull in per month with the new show. If you try and figure out how many people check Opie's videos. Or how many people used to watch LFTC. How many fans check in here on Reddit. How about wackbag. lol. How many cancelled their subscriptions. Think that was a few thousand? How many showed up at that Sirius protest the next business day.

I'm sure Ant 'll get more subscribers than otherwise before if he was just trying to do it without getting fired. Not sure how his LFTC was going but I suspect it'll be quite similar with maybe some production bits thrown in. How would LFTC ranked compared to top podcasts?

But I don't know, I was thinking maybe several thousand would pay per month. Less than 10k. Then you try and figure, ok how much is he getting per month. Then you've got to pay bandwidth, isn't that a lot? And then possibly pay staff for show production. I guess they'll have advertisers.

So lets say, how much do they pay a month, 7 bucks? ok times 10k subscribers, thats $70k a month. He'll have to pay some kind of staff, maybe. The website people, bandwidth. I think bandwith is a real bugger. Then take off HALF for taxes? lol.

Lets say that 70k, throw in some ad revenue. oh we'll go with 100k.. half that for taxes, 50k. Minus expenses, lets say 30k in his pocket per month. Times 12, that's 360,000 a year. More than Sam, I guess.

But he'd better cool down with the going hog wild gambling like he used to, don't ya think? Sounds like he may have taken a dramatic pay cut compared to Sirius. But I bet he keeps living the high life he's used to.

Maybe the show takes off and gets more subscribers. But what do you think about him going with the subscriber based revenue, as opposed to, I think the top podcasts are all free and get their money from advertisers. Do you think he should have went that route instead of subscription? Maybe he'll try that and change it to free later if things don't pan out. Just was wondering how he's gonna do and what you guys think will happen. No i'm not on meth. lol

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You just wasted your life by writing all that. Who cares.

He can always fall back on tin knocking if things don't work out.

I hear those tools are still laying along the side of I-91 in Hamden, CT.

I don't think he was a good tin knocker.

I fell asleep halfway through reading this.

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You're not funny.

Who cares? Let the man worry about his own finances. You just have to decide whether the show is worth watching.

Who cares?

I realize that you're an ignorant fuckhole, but you shouldn't presume that everyone is as much of a taffy-brained lack-wit as you are. People who are interested in the business end of running a big and very unusual podcast might care.

Let the man worry about his own finances.

You make it sound like OP is hassling Ant about this. OP is just trying to strike up conversation with other people who aren't involved, which is what this subreddit is for.

You just have to decide whether the show is worth watching.

Well thanks for explaining our roles to us and defining what we can talk about here. I don't know what we'd do without you, dick cheese.

Anyway OP, I think you're selling Ant's popularity short. Just going by the twitter followers for his show (14K) without even considering his personal twitter followers (171K), I'd say your subscriber numbers are low.

10% of those followers at $7 per month would be roughly $1.5M per year. The streaming company he's using is LiveStream and he's either using the $1000 per month plan or the cheaper $400 per month plan.

He already owns most of the studio equipment and pays no additional rent for studio space, so most of those expenses are NIL.

I have no idea how many staff he employs, Keith is the only person I know of that he pays, and it's anyone's guess how much that is. Let's say $150K for the sake of argument.

So the base expenses of the operation are $12K per year for streaming and cloud storage, and let's say $300K per year for staff salaries.

If he gets 10% of his twitter followers to subscribe at $1.5M per year, then that's roughly $1.2M before taxes annually. So that's less than half of what he was rumored to make at SXM, but certainly not chump change.

Wait, dude, could you type that again? Your keyboard crapped out...

Do you know what a coconut husking spike is? Why don't you do something useful and pound one into the ground with your forehead.

Do you know what a coconut husking spike is?

no

Why don't you do something useful and pound one into the ground with your forehead.

I don't think that would be effective, sir

Great comeback, Norton parrot.

Wait a sec, what about my last comment strikes you as a "Norton parrot"? Was it my use of the word "no"? Or was it "sir"?

Who said I was referring to your last comment?

Oh will you two FAGGOTS just knock this shit off already

Holy shit why do you care about someone else cash so much? You must be a long winded asshole outside of the net with the wall of text you keep posting.

And you have a brain that was designed for twitter.

You must be having a very, very bad day. Sorry man.

All these posts about Anthony's income leave out one huge point: he has been making around $2-3 million per year since 2000.

Let's assume it's $2 million. Across 14 years, that's $28 million in gross income. He probably netted ~$16-17 million of that.

Why does everyone assume he blew that money? Because of the $500k in cars he has bought or the hot/cold gambling streaks? No way those even put a dent into his stockpile of cash.

His house is a massive tax shelter. He has no known drug problems. If he can't make >$10 million last a lifetime (while making his 'paltry' 400k/yr podcasting) then he's a complete idiot.

A few points to correct you. They both made $5m a year from 2001-2004. Their agent, Bob Eatman, gets 15% of everything. Anthony paid around $1million to his ex-wife in settlement. They made an extra $1.5million each from 2006-2009 when they simulcasted on Free-FM. Yes, I know my shit.

That's a welcome correction.

I figured I would low-ball my estimate to prove my point. Your figures let me know I way underestimated what Anthony has earned thus far.

If he has trouble "maintaining" his lifestyle like OP mentioned, he would need to live like Mike Tyson and start buying tigers and Rolls Royces for his posse.

He paid millions to his wife. That divorce was right at their earning peak. Bad timing.

This. And Lawyer fees. And Taxes. And Guns. And Cars. And Houses/NYC Apartments. And Hairplugs/teeth.

Hes not raking it in like people think he is

The website people, bandwidth. I think bandwith is a real bugger.

He's said that he and Keith aren't web guys. So I think whomever they're working with isn't very expensive, given all the pain they're going through. They'll either figure it out slowly themselves or hire someone with the experience to get it up quick. But once it's stable, the costs there go away except for maintenance (and if he's smart he's using a content management system/commerce platform that will make the maintenance easy even for drunken guineas).

And, bandwidth and server costs aren't nearly what they used to be. Someone in another thread figured out he's using livestream as his video provider. The enterprise plan there is $999/month. And for that fee, he's getting many of the trickier things relating to bandwidth (ie transcoding for mobile, video on-demand, etc.) taken care of for him. So on the video distribution side of things, he's pretty solid. The only bandwidth bottleneck he really has to deal with is his upload video feed from the compound to livestream's servers. That might get pricey, since he'll have to get a dedicated T1 style line installed (like Rogan had to do in his studio). But even then, for a business, that's not that expensive.

As for the website, his "web team" just needs to pull their heads out of their asses and get the site/store up onto a real cloud provider, like AWS or Azure. That way when it's showtime, he can crank up the resources allocated to his website's instance to handle the website traffic then throttle it back down when he's done broadcasting. The site just has to handle the logins and serving up the HTML with livestream's player in it. Once that happens, livestream is responsible for the video streaming part.

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I thought he was doing it independantly on his own website, with no Livestream.

Go to anthonycumia.com/livefeed, start the archived video, and then right click on the player. You'll see that it's livestream's player.

If he's still going thru them behind the scenes, can protesters complain and Livestream would cave-in like Sirius and Ant could get shut down?

Theoretically. See Section 4, Prohibited Uses of the TOS of Livestream's Platform. But realistically, Ant isn't going to build a global video podcasting system from scratch by himself. He can't afford it. Even if he cut out Livestream, he'd still need a CDN, which probably has the same sort of stuff in their TOS.

The question that remains, is how big of cunts are Livestream when someone protests them?

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you cant host your own streaming platform without a huge development cost. my company tried it and spent several million developing the platform with a whole team. its not feasible for an individual. Their are numerous excellent platforms available that can more than meet his needs.

I feel like he's in a position where any money he earns from now on is just gravy.

You should start your own podcast called "terrible estimations based on nothing" where you try and figure out how much money famous people make

It really doesn't concern me.

Everyone thinks Im nuts, but this is why I garun-got-damn-tee you that Ant will be back on the show before 2015. The guy's house & overhead are staggering, no way is he going to cut it on the LFTC subs. Now he'll make the salary from the show in the morning, go home and shoot his own show in the afternoon & make even more money on top of it.

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Nope.

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We'll see.

If he cuts back on the gambling, he'll be fine.

Taxes are taken after expenses, so based on you numbers it would be 420k per year

Ant enjoys life and is not one to save. He also has in excess of $10m in assets. He just bought a 20g generator so he can run his show at any time. I hope he eventually moves the podcast to his city apartment where Op and Jimmy can join him. Subscribers would be in excess of 50k which could net about $6mil in revenue with advertising and merchandising assuming they bump the price to $100 per year.

If it were that easy to reel in 6m per year completely off on your own with no corporate backing, every famous person would be doing it. Hint: It's not.

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You don't make money doing a podcast/v-cast from your house for two hours per day. The idea here would be for Ant to parlay this into something bigger. Ant just wants to keep his name out there and stay relevant.

tl;dr

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Why do you care? He doesn't care about your income. I am fan but sheesh why all the speculation?

Kind of ironic that someone living in the 1% like Anthony now has to deal with potentially becoming a member of the 99%. This is karma at work folks.

I agree, it's good when old money like Ant gets their gorshed darned comeuppance.

He's certainly at the bottom of that 1%

This. And Lawyer fees. And Taxes. And Guns. And Cars. And Houses/NYC Apartments. And Hairplugs/teeth.

Hes not raking it in like people think he is