Ant is right, Gene Simmons is a Douche
27 2014-07-22 by majestik6
Gene Simmons says that "I have been part of the 1 percent for the past 30 years… It’s fantastic!” he said. “The 1 percent pays 80 percent of all taxes. Fifty percent of the population of the U.S. pays no taxes. The 1 percent provides all the jobs for everybody else. If the 1 percent didn’t exist, there would be chaos and the American economy would drop dead. Try being nice to rich people."
More douchebaggery here: http://radio.com/2014/07/21/gene-simmons-kiss-1-percent-50-pay-no-taxes-rich/
82 comments
61 ckb614 2014-07-22
And if the dumbest members of the working class didn't have money, no one would come to your concerts and you'd be a homeless man with a giant head wearing face paint.
20 PacinoWig 2014-07-22
Impovershing Gene Simmons is the first good argument for massive income inequality I've ever heard.
5 WiretapStudios 2014-07-22
I went over to my friends cousins house the other week and can confirm. He had a huge collection of Kiss stuff in the entry room, living room, and hallway, and I'm just like... uhhhhhh. You could have gone on vacation several times and still bought a huge nice glass framed poster of Kiss that would be somewhat tasteful in your house. But nope, just a bunch of shitty little plastic items encased in cardboard with plastic windows. I really can't take someone seriously in this situation. Jimmy I can give a pass since he actually gets expensive stuff, but that's still pushing it.
16 [deleted] 2014-07-22
I don't give Jimmy a pass at all, I think his obsessions with Kiss and Sabbath are childish and incredibly creepy.
If you're out of college and still hanging band posters and buying the cheap merch at shows...you've got a problem.
If you're over 30 and going to Kiss concerts and "rocking out", you are a douche.
I've never owned a Kiss album or piece of merch. I've never cared for them as a band, or people. I've never understood their fame, reputation or success.
10 rottenseed 2014-07-22
I get why he likes Sabbath. I'm not a huge fan but they have some good music. KISS...they're a fucking novelty band
2 rollmeonekenobi420 2014-07-22
listen to my nigga rottenseed and smoke the sweet leaf. fuck kiss
7 Bogey_Redbud 2014-07-22
Yes but if I were an unmarried stand-up who does morning radio and had a shit load of disposable income, my house would be covered in things from my obsessions.
2 LizardKingRumsfeld 2014-07-22
Yes, we all know Jimmy is pathetic, what"s your point here?
1 Bogey_Redbud 2014-07-22
Pathetic? I don't think that's pathetic at all. That's the dream. Not having to deal with a relationship. Having money to do what I want.
6 packitchofsositch 2014-07-22
College? For Kiss, the cutoff is middle school.
2 LizardKingRumsfeld 2014-07-22
Suuuuuure, middle school is a good time fa kissin'.
-1 WiretapStudios 2014-07-22
I also think it's creepy, but I'm saying at least he's getting really nice merch and framing it, getting it signed, etc. I think the autograph thing in general is really creepy as well. However, at least he's not buying like bobbleheads and dolls and whatever else - although he might do that too, I'm not sure. I'm saying it's even more fucked up when people can't really afford the merch and it's part of their family budget, to buy shitty little cartoon dolls to display around your house, when you're a grown man. It's like being a 40 year old Juggallo.
2 RockCoatMon 2014-07-22
We can more or less blame the existence of Juggalos on KISS as well, if we wanted to make this "fuck gene simmons" list a little longer.
2 WiretapStudios 2014-07-22
Good call, I think I am now all in, any adult, including Jimmy, that owns any Kiss or Juggalo paraphernalia should, have their home flamethrowered by the Hoarders television show.
3 kentrel 2014-07-22
<Insert Bill Hicks routine about artists who whore themselves out>
-10 liharts 2014-07-22
They come to his concert because he provides them with something they want. It's the free market, capitalism. Nobody forces people to pay his tickets!
And then the good old government comes in and steals by force 80% of his money! And that's freedom! Come on..
20 TheActor_GreggHughes 2014-07-22
Isn't that exactly the same speech Anthony has given on the air? Which is why he doesn't need my $6.
0 LizardKingRumsfeld 2014-07-22
Agreed. I can't support a greasy savage wop like him anyway.
19 BeerCanThick 2014-07-22
Alice Cooper beat him to the punch and then GWAR bested him. I don't know why anybody would listen to kiss in 2014.
5 rahtin 2014-07-22
They got a lot of loyal fans in the 70's. That's their entire fan base.
2 mikelp1973 2014-07-22
Never been a fan of Kiss so when a cover band came to my town not.long ago I tried to blow them off. But my sis was there with her little girls and I love them more than life so I stayed. And they were awesome. It was a great show and it was free. So they probably didnt make shit but dammit did I enjoy Kiss music that day. Pretty sure they were called dressed to kill.
8 LizardKingRumsfeld 2014-07-22
Suuuuuuure, can't jus' leave a show early when ya spendin' time witcha loved ones and lit'le ones. Lit'le Jessica is gettin' too big though, I told her mom to stop feeding her so much or she's gonna go troo a groate spurt.
2 mikelp1973 2014-07-22
I knew it was a bad idea mentioning them here.
10 JCP_1975 2014-07-22
Gene Simmon's little assertion has been fact checked and proven to be wrong. Very wrong.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/wapo-fact-checker-gives-gene-simmons-1-comment-4-pinnochios/
-6 erockarmy 2014-07-22
Has it?
10 ryanasimov 2014-07-22
Gene Simmons is endlessly impressed with his own brilliance, but all he does is parrot already disproven right-wing talking points.
2 LizardKingRumsfeld 2014-07-22
Like everyone on the right-wing.
3 c0up0n 2014-07-22
I don't agree with Geno at all, I'm also not a right winger, but how is the left free and clear of acting like this?
9 anonimescu 2014-07-22
Between Gene Simmons,Sting and Roger Waters I just about had enough of these uppity bassists.
Just sit in the back where you belong and we will all pretend that 90% of your efforts can't be duplicated by a 50 dollar octave pedal. That's why all the good players,like John Paul Jones,Bill Wyman or John Entwistle are all quiet geniuses.
3 dirtfarmingcanuck 2014-07-22
Those last three were also awesome at plenty of different instruments too. I wouldnt consider gene as proficient at even the bass.
9 devilsadvocate33 2014-07-22
In terms of dollar amount, he's right, but for a guy earning $10-an-hour or less, losing 25-30% of his paycheck to taxes is a major blow.
To paraphrase Chris Rock, that's like kicking Monday and half of Tuesday in the ass.
Simmons' comments are the socioeconomic version of "Do you know who I am?" (unsurprisingly, Bill Maher's made the same exact comment). It's tasteless and tacky.
Not that I expect any better from a guy who sells a KISS coffin.
4 c0up0n 2014-07-22
The man knows his audience... Old douche bags.
8 Cup_BeaRuh 2014-07-22
Gene Simmons is also a zionist
11 TossyMcSalad 2014-07-22
and he denies the Armenian Genocide
2 LizardKingRumsfeld 2014-07-22
And he's well-known the world over as just generally being a cunt.
7 sheetrock 2014-07-22
Fifty percent of the population of the U.S. pays no taxes.
I couldn't even begin to guess how someone could live a normal life without ever paying sales tax, let alone literally half the country doing so.
3 islesrule224 2014-07-22
Is that factoring in the people who aren't old enough to pay taxes or 50 of taxpayers don't pay?
2 sheetrock 2014-07-22
Unless you're in a jurisdiction without sales tax, which I guess five states might still fit into, you're likely starting to pay it as soon as you can buy your first piece of candy and not stopping until the nursing home.
That's about 7.8% tax on many goods, and 10.7% on prepared foods around where I'm at. If you happen to be a smoker, use a phone or cable, drink or drive (but hopefully not both at the same time lololol) you're also paying a pretty significant tax on your activities.
Definitely under half of what I'm paying out in income tax, yet definitely greater than "no taxes", especially to some poor bastard trying to get by on disability or social security. Gene's line is probably specifically regarding federal income tax, but the "no taxes" sentiment has been called-out bullshit for long enough that there's really no excuse for anyone public to make this mistake anymore.
1 Ignatius_Oh_Reilly 2014-07-22
No taxes just means no federal income. Also if they are on SNAP no sales tax on food goods either.
6 joshqueens2 2014-07-22
that's just, like, his opinion man
5 erockarmy1 2014-07-22
Um, Ant would totally agree with him. Congrats on bringing Gene and Ant together.
5 BruceMittman 2014-07-22
I love how they always say 50% don't pay taxes. Everyone who works pays payroll taxes. And you can piss on the guy making 40 grand that he doesn't pay as much, but they don't make as much. And it isn't the 1% providing all the jobs it's the average small business operators. The system is designed in a way to trick people. It makes some yokel in Bugtussle Alabama think he's the 1%. It makes Ant think that, even Gene Simmons. The truly upper echelon rich just make money off of money. It's inherited and passed down. Old money families. Rothschilds, Rockefellers, etc. The United States economy rests in the average worker and the ones bold enough to start small businesses.
6 majestik6 2014-07-22
You nailed it. The economy basically works like this:
The net effect of those three things is that every year a dollar buys less
So as you've observed, the 1% make money off of money
The hilarious part, the joke on the 99%, is that making money off of money is guaranteed to win!
IE, if you're a millionaire, you can put your money into stocks, commodities, ANYTHING, and it just keeps going up and up, year after year.
The crash of 2008 was about the only exception to this rule in the last 40 years, which is probably why the government was freaking the fuck out.
That's how the rich get rich. They're not out buying KISS collectibles or iPads or Macbooks. They're buying stocks and their buying corporations and they just keep winning and winning, year after fucking year
If the government truly gave a fuck about unemployment, they could take some of that money that they blow on the NSA and use it to hire up every unemployed person, and put them to work fixing our crumbling infrastructure. But they DON'T give a shit about the 99%; everything is rigged to preserve the status quo for the 1%. It's the reason that the Dow Jones Industrial Average has been going up, and up, and up, despite the crummy economy.
1 BruceMittman 2014-07-22
Couldn't say it better or agree more. You're awesome.
1 SuperShake66652 2014-07-22
Public works projects?! Helping the unemployed? Get that socialism bullshit outta here! Dis is 'Murica!
1 RockCoatMon 2014-07-22
I didn't wake up today thinking that the economic problems in america were going to be put in perspective for me.
1 majestik6 2014-07-22
haha, I think that's the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me in this sub!
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Greenspan+put
^ if anyone's curious, this sums up the phenomenon pretty well. Basically in 1974 the United States MADE things. We made aluminum, steel, electronics and cars.
Monetary policy changed under Nixon, and since that time, people with money just BUY things, they don't MAKE things.
IE, in 1974 if you had ten million dollars in the bank, you might start a business, employ a hundred people, and build some type of widget.
In 2014, due to the Greenspan Put, it's a much safer bet to just dump your cash into the stock market, or better yet, commodities. In the last three years the price of beef has risen almost 100%.
Basically you're better off dumping your money into assets, not businesses.
Obviously, this is bad for Americans, because Americans need jobs.
Someone might point out that houses are things, so why did housing go tits up? But the answer to that is simple, the people who were buying houses ten years ago didn't own them. They were getting loans with very little money down. So they may have felt rich "on paper", but the truth was that they never owned an asset, just a fraction of one.
0 LizardKingRumsfeld 2014-07-22
I don't want a goddamn thing from the government except for them to leave me the fuck alone.
1 45flight2 2014-07-22
Well aren't you special
1 NotInsane 2014-07-22
http://money.howstuffworks.com/only-53-percent-pay-income-tax.htm
2 MBartholomae1 2014-07-22
I also hated his stupid assumption that he'd just be able to trademark a dollar sign bag and then Monopoly/Parker Bros. would have to pay to use it in their game. Such a stupid misunderstanding of Trademark Law and if a lawyer told him he could do that he should be immediately disbarred.
He has a trademark that looks similar to a dollar sign bag but only in connection with his stupid Gene Simmons merchandise. He's got this http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=doc&state=4809:nmjxwh.3.66
and a similar one for Simmons Books and they are Trademarks only in conjunction with the goods/services listed in the registration. That doesn't fucking mean you can just sue everyone that uses a dollar sign bag anywhere. And guess what, Monopoly already has their board trademarked which contains a dollar sign bag on it and they are the senior user/senior filer so fuck you Gene
Fucking entitled self-righteous idiot.
1 LizardKingRumsfeld 2014-07-22
Don't worry, he'll be dead soon.
2 Anarox 2014-07-22
1 % has to be Jews to be okay in that racist fuck book.
This is the same guy who said Cleaning cars is for goyims ( non Jews). Fuck you Geeeeneee
2 Doom_Art 2014-07-22
I personally loved Anthony describing him in his sex tape as "a mangy old puma."
1 LizardKingRumsfeld 2014-07-22
He will be missed.
1 TheMonkfish 2014-07-22
He's outrageous.
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1 Sks44 2014-07-22
Norton is such a quick guy. I don't get his love for that shite band.
1 [deleted] 2014-07-22
Cumia has said the same thing and he brags about his wealth more than Gene does
1 Dannyprecise 2014-07-22
Why did anyone like men in clown makeup to begin with? Especially one with that giant tongue thing he did. Can anyone explain how they could look past that gimmicky shit?
1 Dannyprecise 2014-07-22
Don't like the fee for being a rich person in the United States, then try becoming a rich person in another country. Report back on how that worked out for you.
1 ImZephyr 2014-07-22
Well duh... I've known he's a douche for ages.
-1 [deleted] 2014-07-22
As much as I hate Gene Simmons, can't quite disagree with him. Gene's real name is Chaim Witz; That name STINKS.
8 HeyBuddays 2014-07-22
of course he's a jew
4 [deleted] 2014-07-22
He's a retired Jew, living on a pension....
2 devilsadvocate33 2014-07-22
How fucking sexy was that wife/care-giver of his who turned down the tv?
You never saw her upper body, and you didn't need to, to know she was a honey of a dish.
That was a great piece of cinematic cinema, right there.
2 [deleted] 2014-07-22
"Turn this down, you're gonna break your EAR drums..."
2 drunk8gods 2014-07-22
I heard he was a retired investor that had to come home to vote in the Presidential Election because they wouldn't give him an absentee ballot...
2 [deleted] 2014-07-22
(Laughs)
5 majestik6 2014-07-22
Simmons doesn't seem to understand that most corporations are publicly owned. For instance, the company that I work for employs 280,000 people. The shareholders aren't one percenters; they're regular people with 401Ks and IRAs.
1 Buzz_Killington_III 2014-07-22
Yeah he's not wrong on any particular thing that says, he's just a dick. But so are half of us so who gives a shit.
-2 Ignatius_Oh_Reilly 2014-07-22
He trolled NPR like a master though
1 aftershave 2014-07-22
By trolled you mean made an ass out of himself.
1 Ignatius_Oh_Reilly 2014-07-22
Terry Gross is so uptight, I'd consider it successful trolling. Gene is usually just an ass though.
1 LizardKingRumsfeld 2014-07-22
Trolling requires some form of joke. Gene Simmons was not joking.
1 Ignatius_Oh_Reilly 2014-07-22
Yeah but he was exaggerating himself. Choosing to do it in a way that specifically get at Terry
-5 otteaux 2014-07-22
I don't like him either, but he's closer to being right than he is to being wrong. He did leave out the fact that the US Government (whose motto should be "to employ the unemployable") provides a fuckton of jobs as well.
1 [deleted] 2014-07-22
All western governments provide a fuckton of jobs. I guess there's just a lot of unemployable people in the world.
6 otteaux 2014-07-22
Well, unfortunately we can't all be shitty bass players for cock rock bands that cater to 13 year olds and Jim Norton.
-7 Spork2000 2014-07-22
Uh...he's got a point.
5 telemecanique 2014-07-22
in a very cunty way
8 HeyBuddays 2014-07-22
of course he's a jew
5 majestik6 2014-07-22
Simmons doesn't seem to understand that most corporations are publicly owned. For instance, the company that I work for employs 280,000 people. The shareholders aren't one percenters; they're regular people with 401Ks and IRAs.
7 Bogey_Redbud 2014-07-22
Yes but if I were an unmarried stand-up who does morning radio and had a shit load of disposable income, my house would be covered in things from my obsessions.
10 rottenseed 2014-07-22
I get why he likes Sabbath. I'm not a huge fan but they have some good music. KISS...they're a fucking novelty band
6 packitchofsositch 2014-07-22
College? For Kiss, the cutoff is middle school.
-1 WiretapStudios 2014-07-22
I also think it's creepy, but I'm saying at least he's getting really nice merch and framing it, getting it signed, etc. I think the autograph thing in general is really creepy as well. However, at least he's not buying like bobbleheads and dolls and whatever else - although he might do that too, I'm not sure. I'm saying it's even more fucked up when people can't really afford the merch and it's part of their family budget, to buy shitty little cartoon dolls to display around your house, when you're a grown man. It's like being a 40 year old Juggallo.
3 dirtfarmingcanuck 2014-07-22
Those last three were also awesome at plenty of different instruments too. I wouldnt consider gene as proficient at even the bass.
1 Buzz_Killington_III 2014-07-22
Yeah he's not wrong on any particular thing that says, he's just a dick. But so are half of us so who gives a shit.