It ascribes the multiple failures (Crime, education, employment, you name it) in inner cities to the lack of nuclear family and father figures. This attacks the strong independent womyn narrative and instead argues how harmful it actually is when it manifests.
This ruffles people's wishful thinking perceptions. People don't like it when their sense of things is shocked.
even if it turns out to be wrong, it's still important that people voice all possibilities. Just because a possibility seems to most as unfair should not automatically silence it in favor of any "fair" possibilities. Choosing only possibilities that are nice and fair in someone's eyes is basically religion in a nut shell. We're simply not allowed to explore the implications that race brings to the development of a person, even though any logical mind would consider someone's race just as important as whether they are short or tall. It can and does make a difference to how you react to the world. But, of course, we can't talk about that because it's much nicer to think race does nothing to a person's development.
As long as we're not allowed to say that race changes a person, then we can't see how and to what extent. And as long as we can't explore that, we can't develop any arguments against either extreme. The super racist will always feel vindicated because we can't give him reasons he's wrong other than, no, race has nothing to do with it.
This instant suspension of people who make anything close to a "racist" comment is like the salem witch trials.
If you're white and throw these people under the bus every time because you think you're too careful for it to happen to you, you've got another thing coming.
You might not be a semi high-profile reporter or radio personality, but all it takes is one idiot telling HR you said something naughty to get you the boot.
Ad hominem attacks generally don't dissolve into equitable conversation. Something I wouldn't expect such a purveyor of moderation in /r/NiggerDrama or /r/WhiteRights to get. Glad to see I found your very low limit button. heh.
Do you have any facts/data/stats/anything other than hatred to support your position?
What's the argument at hand? I missed it. Did you even read the thread?
The argument is that you're a racist. Evidence below. And above. /r/NiggerDrama ? Really?
I worked in the 'hood for years & dealt with the scummiest people of all races. It never occurred to me to blame everything on "niggers". Sure, black people caused most of the problems in the area, but there were plenty of awful white and hispanic people causing problems in the same area.
If you're white and throw these people under the bus every time because you think you're too careful for it to happen to you, you've got another thing coming.
You might not be a semi high-profile reporter or radio personality, but all it takes is one idiot telling HR you said something naughty to get you the boot.
Google the word "prudent" and get over your enragingly stupid racist attitude.
I'm not a saint. Scummy people of all races do scummy things. Scummy black people tend to concentrate in the 'hood, like scummy white people concentrate in trailer parks.
I noticed you avoided the "prudent" part of the discussion.
Somebody is going to go on great apes expecting gorillas and chimps and be horrified. I had no idea that there were so many racist subreddits, definitely didn't think all twenty or so of them were organized into a network via their sidebars. If there are that many for people to shit on black people I wonder how many exist for all other races and how specific it gets.
The news is all about being biased these days. My local news station was basically a big informercial for obamacare for a while. He's getting the business for what he was editorializing about. Even if this guy was editorializing, it's standard practice now.
So someone who decided to turn a news story into a personal vlog on air was suspended? Shocking.
His sentiment seems reasonable but flawed, its not as if there aren't just as many black guys with asshole dads who turn into shithead gangbangers, so a dad won't make things better. But that wasn't why he was fired and the parallels between this and what happened to anthony are slim to none.
After all, he didn't say how much he hopes the widow gets raped and murdered, and then call everyone in the neighborhood savages and "not people".
Anthony's just trying to ride someone elses coattails to make himself look better. Aught to focus on his own podcast now and not this dreck.
Honestly, if the station had run tape of a cop's wife blaming her husband's death on the lack of fathers in the black community, and a reporter went off on an unauthorized editorial about how awful that type of thinking is, he also would have been suspended. You're not Walter Cronkite, local field reporter.
There has been NO critical commentary in our pussy, cowardly press that the wife of the slime that executed the cop said that he should have killed more cops. Bringing it up would get you fired in a heartbeat.
Black women get a pass for everything now. We're not allowed to have a problem with anything they say, or do.
We're a nation of pussies, because we let the media get away with it.
Also, do you want the media to have critical commentary every time a completely unknown person says something stupid? "Buford down by the Stop n' Shop says that we need to send all the Japanese people back to China. Refute him, Brian Williams! Or are you a cowardly coward?"
Exactly what commentary do you want, you world-revolves-around-New-Jersey (it's a local story) ninny? "I for one think that LESS cops should be murdered". This doesn't call for an hourlong primetime special "Cop Murder: Yes or No?". The media did what they always do in this sort of "hoisted by your own petard" story--made the idiot look like an idiot. The viewer looks at the idiot, thinks "what an idiot!", and goes on with their day. Legitimate newspaper articles won't report emotionally on these types of comments, because that's not what they do. They'll just write what was said, write what someone else said in response to that, and leave it at that. Tabloids will (NY Post calls them "vile comments") report emotionally, because that's what they do. And to my original point, the reporter didn't get suspended for daring to besmirch the good name of a black woman, or for even trying to delve into the mildest of racial issues-- he got suspended for doing a lengthy, completely unauthorized editorial. Unless you ARE the managing editor of your newscast, you can't do that without permission.
To be fair, "Jersey Mayor slams sidewalk memorial to cop killer" was a national-ish story for a few minutes. The wife's comments are a local story about a clearly delusional person whose thoughts don't matter.
Hey retards defending this guy, you do understand that he is a reporter, right? In other words, his entire job is to report the news objectively, without editorializing.
Your right. That's why they fired his partner for saying "That place has good sandwiches". The content of the opinion had nothing to do with it right??
Exactly. Even if a reporter had gone on the air on September 12, 2001 and said "I don't care WHAT Osama Bin Laden says--I think USA is #1, and anyone who doesn't think so is a dunderhead", they also should have been at least suspended.
I am listening to the Opie and Jim show ( or whatever the fuck it's called) and there is no race talk so far and I am fucking loving it on my day off after a nightshift. Fuck this shit, most people have enough shit to deal with in their own life to feel pity for millionaires.
If every cop you have ever met is a dickhead the problem is obviously you. Usually when dealing with assholes (you) it's hard to be nice. I'm not a cop lover BTW. Just see too many assholes in customer service who thinks its the other person who is the problem.
Yeah that or they purposfully instruct officers to have a certain demeanor during a traffic stop to keep things flowing and to let the driver know they mean business. I dont like it but thats the way it is.
Sometimes you have to forgive them. Any amount of power can be like a drug. It will change a person. That and their jobs are actually really awful. Imagine having to deal with Jerry Springer guests everyday. After a while everyone seems like a dumb asshole or a suspect to them. Having said that yes i also dont like or trust them.
Sometimes you have to forgive them. Any amount of power can be like a drug. It will change a person. That and their jobs are actually really awful. Imagine having to deal with Jerry Springer guests everyday. After a while everyone seems like a dumb asshole or a suspect to them. Having said that yes i also dont like or trust them.
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8 EskimoEscrow 2014-07-16
Anthony's Tweet:
https://twitter.com/AnthonyCumia/status/489276898095005696
6 Rugger5353 2014-07-16
And this is shocking how
6 knitro 2014-07-16
here's why:
It ascribes the multiple failures (Crime, education, employment, you name it) in inner cities to the lack of nuclear family and father figures. This attacks the strong independent womyn narrative and instead argues how harmful it actually is when it manifests.
This ruffles people's wishful thinking perceptions. People don't like it when their sense of things is shocked.
1 Higher_Primate 2014-07-16
Or maybe it's stupid to blame multiple complex chronic issues on a single thing?
1 knitro 2014-07-16
it is - I was explaining why this one in particular rustles so many jimmies.
0 howboutushutup 2014-07-16
even if it turns out to be wrong, it's still important that people voice all possibilities. Just because a possibility seems to most as unfair should not automatically silence it in favor of any "fair" possibilities. Choosing only possibilities that are nice and fair in someone's eyes is basically religion in a nut shell. We're simply not allowed to explore the implications that race brings to the development of a person, even though any logical mind would consider someone's race just as important as whether they are short or tall. It can and does make a difference to how you react to the world. But, of course, we can't talk about that because it's much nicer to think race does nothing to a person's development. As long as we're not allowed to say that race changes a person, then we can't see how and to what extent. And as long as we can't explore that, we can't develop any arguments against either extreme. The super racist will always feel vindicated because we can't give him reasons he's wrong other than, no, race has nothing to do with it.
0 [deleted] 2014-07-16
Why does it have to be shocking? It was supposed to be informative.
-1 Rugger5353 2014-07-16
Sarcasm. Heard of it
1 [deleted] 2014-07-16
Yeah, I get that. Whatever.
6 Fidena 2014-07-16
This instant suspension of people who make anything close to a "racist" comment is like the salem witch trials.
If you're white and throw these people under the bus every time because you think you're too careful for it to happen to you, you've got another thing coming.
You might not be a semi high-profile reporter or radio personality, but all it takes is one idiot telling HR you said something naughty to get you the boot.
3 YourOldPalHoward 2014-07-16
Thank you for your insightful comments on race relations, /r/WhiteRights and /r/GreatApes poster.
9 qazme 2014-07-16
He's the moderator of such great subreddits as:
/r/WhiteRight , /r/NiggerDrama/ , /r/polacks/ , /r/TheProjects/ and..... /r/Earlyjazz/ ???
7 [deleted] 2014-07-16
yeah the early jazz thing is weird
4 Fidena 2014-07-16
Were you the kid that told the teacher on everybody?
0 just_plain_yogurt 2014-07-16
Were you the idiot who didn't know the difference between "who" and "that"?
-11 qazme 2014-07-16
Whose telling on you?
5 Fidena 2014-07-16
Your comment just strikes me as the same little ratfink personality type. You and Howie in the same SRS IRC?
-6 qazme 2014-07-16
You're not part of the show.
0 Fidena 2014-07-16
Great non-sequitur.
-6 qazme 2014-07-16
Ad hominem attacks generally don't dissolve into equitable conversation. Something I wouldn't expect such a purveyor of moderation in /r/NiggerDrama or /r/WhiteRights to get. Glad to see I found your very low limit button. heh.
3 Fidena 2014-07-16
Ah, nice to know a fellow gentleman posts on /r/opieandanthony. I tip my fedora to you, le good sir.
Just say "a moderator of /r/NiggerDrama or /r/WhiteRights" next time, faggot.
-1 just_plain_yogurt 2014-07-16
Oooh! You called him/her a faggot! You're a real tough guy!
Maybe next time you can't prove your point you'll tell him "go fuck your mother" just like Ant does when he's losing an argument.
You either have facts to support your position or you don't.
Bring the facts or STFU.
Anthony at least brings statistics to support his racist ideas. Where are yours?
1 Fidena 2014-07-16
You're braindead. My ad hominem was only in response to him using ad hominems and stating that he wasn't interested in going further than that.
What's the argument at hand? I missed it. Did you even read the thread?
There's no facts to bring, it's mud-slinging.
0 just_plain_yogurt 2014-07-16
Alllllllrighty then!
Do you have any facts/data/stats/anything other than hatred to support your position?
The argument is that you're a racist. Evidence below. And above. /r/NiggerDrama ? Really?
I worked in the 'hood for years & dealt with the scummiest people of all races. It never occurred to me to blame everything on "niggers". Sure, black people caused most of the problems in the area, but there were plenty of awful white and hispanic people causing problems in the same area.
Google the word "prudent" and get over your enragingly stupid racist attitude.
3 Fidena 2014-07-16
Support what position?
Wasn't denying it, so there's no argument there.
You're a saint.
0 just_plain_yogurt 2014-07-16
I'm not a saint. Scummy people of all races do scummy things. Scummy black people tend to concentrate in the 'hood, like scummy white people concentrate in trailer parks.
I noticed you avoided the "prudent" part of the discussion.
-4 qazme 2014-07-16
You're going to get that caught in a trip wire.
2 [deleted] 2014-07-16
Douche chills.
-8 iaknet 2014-07-16
White rights, easiest civil rights movement in history. Its like kids on tumblr who claim they are an oppressed minority because they are short.
-6 YourOldPalHoward 2014-07-16
You're thinking of /r/short
edit: lol, there's a lot of short O&A fans apparently. I'm sorry your life is so humiliating. :(
5 Slippery_Slope_Guy 2014-07-16
Lol, those sad fucks.
4 Fidena 2014-07-16
No problem, I just have to step up when normally respectable and honest /r/ShitRedditSays posters don't speak up.
4 VeritablyClean 2014-07-16
You're both cunts and should go elsewhere
1 GGINQUISITOR 2014-07-16
Somebody is going to go on great apes expecting gorillas and chimps and be horrified. I had no idea that there were so many racist subreddits, definitely didn't think all twenty or so of them were organized into a network via their sidebars. If there are that many for people to shit on black people I wonder how many exist for all other races and how specific it gets.
4 Spokker 2014-07-16
The news is all about being biased these days. My local news station was basically a big informercial for obamacare for a while. He's getting the business for what he was editorializing about. Even if this guy was editorializing, it's standard practice now.
3 AntsCamera 2014-07-16
Maybe Ant has become the Anti-Sharpton. Fighting for white right!
What does Ant have to lose?
You think he will get the same racial leeway Rev Al/Jackson (Greek homos/Hymietown) does? lol
Erock Comment?
2 [deleted] 2014-07-16
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2 [deleted] 2014-07-16
I'd like to know if this guy has a history of editorializing the news without being punished for it in the past.
2 deliriumtriggered 2014-07-16
Anthony backing him probably won't help the cause.
2 RzK 2014-07-16
Just imagine.. thanks to Ant the world could finally address real racial issues that people avoid to not be racist
1 [deleted] 2014-07-16
"Sus-pended-a SEN-tence!"
1 [deleted] 2014-07-16
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0 JensaaraiBronitarian 2014-07-16
So someone who decided to turn a news story into a personal vlog on air was suspended? Shocking.
His sentiment seems reasonable but flawed, its not as if there aren't just as many black guys with asshole dads who turn into shithead gangbangers, so a dad won't make things better. But that wasn't why he was fired and the parallels between this and what happened to anthony are slim to none.
After all, he didn't say how much he hopes the widow gets raped and murdered, and then call everyone in the neighborhood savages and "not people".
Anthony's just trying to ride someone elses coattails to make himself look better. Aught to focus on his own podcast now and not this dreck.
-1 [deleted] 2014-07-16
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-5 DiscoInferiorityComp 2014-07-16
Honestly, if the station had run tape of a cop's wife blaming her husband's death on the lack of fathers in the black community, and a reporter went off on an unauthorized editorial about how awful that type of thinking is, he also would have been suspended. You're not Walter Cronkite, local field reporter.
10 [deleted] 2014-07-16
Oh, bullshit.
There has been NO critical commentary in our pussy, cowardly press that the wife of the slime that executed the cop said that he should have killed more cops. Bringing it up would get you fired in a heartbeat.
Black women get a pass for everything now. We're not allowed to have a problem with anything they say, or do.
We're a nation of pussies, because we let the media get away with it.
4 DiscoInferiorityComp 2014-07-16
Also, do you want the media to have critical commentary every time a completely unknown person says something stupid? "Buford down by the Stop n' Shop says that we need to send all the Japanese people back to China. Refute him, Brian Williams! Or are you a cowardly coward?"
2 DiscoInferiorityComp 2014-07-16
Exactly what commentary do you want, you world-revolves-around-New-Jersey (it's a local story) ninny? "I for one think that LESS cops should be murdered". This doesn't call for an hourlong primetime special "Cop Murder: Yes or No?". The media did what they always do in this sort of "hoisted by your own petard" story--made the idiot look like an idiot. The viewer looks at the idiot, thinks "what an idiot!", and goes on with their day. Legitimate newspaper articles won't report emotionally on these types of comments, because that's not what they do. They'll just write what was said, write what someone else said in response to that, and leave it at that. Tabloids will (NY Post calls them "vile comments") report emotionally, because that's what they do. And to my original point, the reporter didn't get suspended for daring to besmirch the good name of a black woman, or for even trying to delve into the mildest of racial issues-- he got suspended for doing a lengthy, completely unauthorized editorial. Unless you ARE the managing editor of your newscast, you can't do that without permission.
2 DiscoInferiorityComp 2014-07-16
To be fair, "Jersey Mayor slams sidewalk memorial to cop killer" was a national-ish story for a few minutes. The wife's comments are a local story about a clearly delusional person whose thoughts don't matter.
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-5 wifflebb 2014-07-16
Hey retards defending this guy, you do understand that he is a reporter, right? In other words, his entire job is to report the news objectively, without editorializing.
3 [deleted] 2014-07-16
Your right. That's why they fired his partner for saying "That place has good sandwiches". The content of the opinion had nothing to do with it right??
You are retarded.
3 deliriumtriggered 2014-07-16
That place had shitty sandwiches. He deserved what he got.
-5 wifflebb 2014-07-16
You're right, context doesn't matter.
5 [deleted] 2014-07-16
I said content.
-2 DiscoInferiorityComp 2014-07-16
Exactly. Even if a reporter had gone on the air on September 12, 2001 and said "I don't care WHAT Osama Bin Laden says--I think USA is #1, and anyone who doesn't think so is a dunderhead", they also should have been at least suspended.
-7 JesusCoaster 2014-07-16
I guess racists pull together in times of need.
-2 JewsAreGreat 2014-07-16
Fuck you!! Fuck your racist label you love to throw around!! Black people are turning out to be a fucking plague.
2 JesusCoaster 2014-07-16
Kinda proving my point. But please try and weasel your way out of the fact that Anthony cslled all blacks "violent savages".
0 CowsAreCurious 2014-07-16
Cenk? Is that you?
-9 Anarox 2014-07-16
I really don't give a fuck.
I am listening to the Opie and Jim show ( or whatever the fuck it's called) and there is no race talk so far and I am fucking loving it on my day off after a nightshift. Fuck this shit, most people have enough shit to deal with in their own life to feel pity for millionaires.
6 [deleted] 2014-07-16
Yours sincerely, Regular Joes angry brother.
-22 IggysGlove 2014-07-16
I've never met a cop who wasn't at least a dickhead. Most have been straight up pieces of shit.
Fatherless blaeks don't got nothing to do with it.
10 mufdvr3669 2014-07-16
If every cop you have ever met is a dickhead the problem is obviously you. Usually when dealing with assholes (you) it's hard to be nice. I'm not a cop lover BTW. Just see too many assholes in customer service who thinks its the other person who is the problem.
2 CowsAreCurious 2014-07-16
That's why I love this saying:
-2 Eab123 2014-07-16
Yeah that or they purposfully instruct officers to have a certain demeanor during a traffic stop to keep things flowing and to let the driver know they mean business. I dont like it but thats the way it is.
-7 IggysGlove 2014-07-16
I was speaking about off duty cops. Their personalities. Not how they do their job. Which is a whole different bag of worms.
-1 Eab123 2014-07-16
Sometimes you have to forgive them. Any amount of power can be like a drug. It will change a person. That and their jobs are actually really awful. Imagine having to deal with Jerry Springer guests everyday. After a while everyone seems like a dumb asshole or a suspect to them. Having said that yes i also dont like or trust them.
0 IggysGlove 2014-07-16
You give them way too much credit. They don't do that every day. Mostly they don't do shit.
They have the us vs them mentality. So fuck em.
2 Eab123 2014-07-16
Hmmmm.............agreed.
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1 bambonk 2014-07-16
Stop stealin hubcaps shitbird
1 phartnocker 2014-07-16
I like the way you roll.
-1 Eab123 2014-07-16
Sometimes you have to forgive them. Any amount of power can be like a drug. It will change a person. That and their jobs are actually really awful. Imagine having to deal with Jerry Springer guests everyday. After a while everyone seems like a dumb asshole or a suspect to them. Having said that yes i also dont like or trust them.
-6 qazme 2014-07-16
You're not part of the show.