Less Sam is making the show feel like a comedian podcast hang done professionally. I'm diggin the O&J show.

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O&J are going to hit it out the ballpark if they keep this format going.

Opie

Jimmy

3rd chair = pre-booked guest to hang from start to finish, rotating chair of comedians or cool guests.

Those who know the Joe Rogan podcast get a good idea of what im talking about. It's usually Rogan, Redban, and a random guest to hang for the whole show. O&J adopting that idea would be a great show, even if it means cutting it back to 3 shows a week due to lack of guest bookings.

For example, look at the Rogan format:

http://www.youtube.com/user/PowerfulJRE/videos?flow=grid&view=0&sort=p

Replace Rogan with O&J, and you are looking at a damn solid way to keep this show going even without Ant.

It doesn't even need to be all comedians. People like Dr. Steve, Shane Smith, Neil Degrasse, and other non-comedians would all be solid hangs.

Just find quality guests fat boy.

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Absolutely, this can work. We all love and miss Ant, but the good part about this new show (for me) is that there will be no hours lost to gun control/race topics. I dont tune in to this show for politics..I tune in for the funny. I prefer the "hang" vibe like R&F.

Fez doesn't do the same thing with the rants without being a true 2nd mic?

Yeah, lost me a little bit, also Fez is a lot more emotional than Ant with none of the intelligence, research, or even "research".

Fez is a stand alone fruit.

Having Niggermania, Stormfront, Daily Stormer, VNN, Council of Conservative Citizens, Chimpout and American Renaissance on your bookmarks, while always a good thing, probably doesn't constitute "research."

You sure know alot of them...

Half of them were mentioned on air. There are video clips of Ant on Niggermania on his Youtube channel.

He's a fan of Der Fuhrer Cumia

Or that disgusting, racist backwater corner of the internet where he goes to get his "statistics" on black crime, bjs.gov.

It's as though, for a not-yet-engaged third party, the one negates and neuters your credibility vis-a-vis the other.

Did you miss the quotations?

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I dont even really consider Fez part of the show. Since R&F moved to Raw Dog...they basically just have a hang... with a guest or two pretty much every day. This is what I imagine OnJ will be as well.

Pepper Hicks is really 2nd mic on R&F.

I like Ronnie, Pepper and Shelby riffing, they're great. The guests I did hear(when I was listening) mostly weren't good(to me) so I ended up skipping 1-2 hours day. So for me, the 1st hour up to guests were great unless Fez chimed in and made it all about himself. I was listening up to a couple of weeks ago(on demand so I could skip whole segments).

Agreed. Sometimes they get some 3rd tier comics who are neither funny nor entertaining. But when you pair up Soder, Michael Che or Big Jay with Ronnie.... its gold.

Absolutely but that's why it's so important to pick the right guests. I'd rather hear O&A or R&F riff about current events, have some guests come in for the hang.

Yeah, but at least those comics get a chance at bat, and some radio experience.

Chris Stanley Pepper Hicks?

The show has been good so far, but it will run out of steam (and if you deny that you're crazy). Ant has always been the backup generator for this show. When nobody else had anything Ant could always produce content.

Ant has always been the backup generator for this show.

That line was almost too clever.

glalalallaallalalallalalalalalala--boooofffff

I actually stopped listening for this very reason. As annoying as Opie can be at times, Anthony's constant tirades annoyed me to the point that I just gradually stopped listening. When Ant was fired, I probably hadn't listened in 3-4 weeks.

I've listened the past three days, starting with curiosity to see how the situation played out. Overall, I like the show a lot better now. Whether it can remain at this level remains to be seen though.

Yeah, I'd tune in and see this and go, "welp, guess I'll check back in an hour".

I agree. Although I miss his jokes, it is goddamn refreshing to hear a conversation just go for an hour without being derailed by Ant's insecurities every fucking time.

Ant's insecurities

Woah, you must be a psychologist or something.

Tsk...tsk....he's like a brain fixer upper or sumthin.

I just made this comment somewhere else but it applies here better:

I am scared to admit it, but I'm sort of liking the change in atmosphere in the studio. Not because Anthony is gone, but because O&J aren't coasting anymore. I feel like they're giving it more than they used to, and while it isn't the same anymore it isn't nearly as painful to listen to as I thought it would be. Yet.

I laughed at more Jim lines today than I have in a long time. Opie seems to be in a groove as well. Will it last? I doubt it, but I'll take it while it's here.

it's oly been 3 days without ant. Of course they're trying extra hard. Wait 2 weeks when it's back to normal with no comedian guests and then we can judge

Totes.

i used to be obsessed with Rogan's podcast. i still love Joe, but i just got burned out on it and now i find it really difficult to listen to. every show feels exactly the same as every other.

but with O&A i have listened for 12 years and rarely ever got tired of it.

the new OJ shows have been solid so far though.

Agreed on Joe, he's gotten really preachy and talks over most anyone making a point, especially when they all drink. I've listened to hundreds of episodes, I had to tap out on the more recent ones.

His guests are boring as shit now too. He has guys like archery experts come on. I don't care to listen to Joe and another guy foam at the mouth over hobbies they have. His show is still really good whenever he has comedians on. That's the only time I give his show a chance anymore with certain exceptions. His podcast 1-about 300 are awesome, but when he changed studios and took a slightly more serious format the show dropped off significantly. Still got plenty of love for Joe and the Rogan board though.

Right agreed. Sometimes a guest like that is cool on a show if they are on for 30 minutes, but not the full show. Same with MMA for me, I've never seen a single match and know more about MMA via Joe and a few other shows talking about it than I really care to. I don't mind the art of it and the actual thing, but my brain doesn't have room for stats and matches and shit like that. I must have listened to hundreds of hours of it after giving up on skipping through it. Now I do the opposite, like you said, I download the show if I like the guest (normally a comedian). Most of these guests can barely hold a normal conversation (like the Aliens guy) without losing track / focus for 30 minutes, much less 2-3 hours. I still support the show, but I just am not enjoying it as much anymore personally and have moved on to other shows.

Yep. He used to have great guests, who he'd let riff, and just bounce ideas off them to keep the conversational flow going. Now he just lets them get to a point, then it's all Joe rambling about some monkey brain LSD trip future of evolution and how we all need to go to the desert and take peyote, maaaaaaaan. Too many times a guest will get into a good topic, and Joe would derail the entire thing pontificating.

It's just exhausting.

Agreed, it's like he's trying to strong arm everyone into this philosophy of stoner / drug culture, when that really isn't FOR everyone, and there are quite a few people who especially shouldn't be doing it at all.

Someone should really tell Rogan to stop saying the phrase "stoned ape theory" on his show.

Rogan is cool sometimes on OnA but there have been too many times where he has said some far out shit(like jesus taking mushrooms or some shit?) That if anyone else had said OnA would laugh at them. But when he says it they are like oh wow, thats crazy, i never knew that.

After 500 plus shows with Rogan you really start to see the meat head come out of him. It's a wonder all the people he has as so called friends are smaller,weaker then him is an understatement. Joe is a total bully and I fucking hate to use that term. He is someone you wouldn't want to have a drink with in fear of him starting a fight. Plus I think the pot as lost its affect on mellowing him out.

Now that you mention it, I think I've listened to more than 100 shows. He does bully, and I also completely hate that term. He went from being like a guy that I thought would be cool to hang out with, to a guy that I'd just avoid being near unless I was his friend.

What's an example of him bullying? Is it usually directed at Redban? I think i noticed him being douchey as well.

He really talks down to Brian, at first I was all in b/c Brian would say stupid shit near the beginning of when they started, but as he became more vital, it seemed like Joe got more and more aggressive. The last few times Redban was even on (that I listened to), Joe talked to him literally like a dog, not even joking or being like "hey knock it off" but more like "yo, what are you, fucking stupid?" Aside from that, on the last few podcasts I caught, he talked over people forcefully, right over their opinions or points. It was pretty bad on the Tom Rhodes and Doug Stanhope one, which I actually caught the live stream of. They were drinking, but he trampled all over Tom a few times and totally shot him down when he was making a point. Doug made fun of his live read type shilling of his products, and Joe tried to alpha him out a few times, and Doug just kept rolling. I'd say it's just my perception if it was one time, but actually I didn't even notice until my brother and a lot of people on the web and Reddit pointed it out. I went back and listened to a few clips and was pretty let down.

Yeah i haven't listened much last 2 years. Just pop on and find Joey Coco Diaz shows and dl. I noticed Joe annoying derails natural conversation to do a live possibly ego massaging fact check all too often. That's a hard quality not to get douche chilly about

Joe "It Seems To Me" Rogan

The Chris Hadfield one wasn't bad. He didn't pull out any conspiracy BS with him, it was just an interesting, fun conversation.

Chris Hadfield

I'll check that one out, thanks.

Joe has too many fake scientists, too much UFC talk, and "guests" that are actually owners/employees of his advertisers. I will always check out an episode with someone like Stanhope or Ari Shaffir, because they are fun, but listening to Joe drone on and on about health, fitness, medicine balls, and supplements is tedious.

Agreed. If you've heard a week of Rogan, you've heard all Rogan has to offer. Even the guest he lines up are all in the same vein of content...psychedelics, Ju Jitsu, and the idea that we 'don't know' the secrets of the universe.

I don't mind the UFC talk since that is what Joe is mostly known for now.

The thing is, if you don't watch UFC at all, all this talk is basically like hearing a dull whine in the night air. It's just there. I don't expect him to cater to me personally, but other podcasts touch on other sports and move on. They don't run through match history, stats, data, fitness routines, methods, sport history, match predictions, etc. It's even when non UFC people are on as well, so it's hard to skip / pick when the talk could either be 5 minutes or there is a 1 hour Rogan monologue about something UFC related.

I enjoyed Rogans podcast at first, but generally I realized it was mostly rambling pot talk.

Correct

yeah, joe is so naive sometimes, and he has those bullshit conspiracy theories which he repeats to every guest.. and i cant stand the other dude.. he is good at pulling internet images, but he should just shut the fuck up and dont interupt the guests

How do you still like joe rogan? Once that honeymoon was over I immediately realized how much of a piece of shit he is.

But-cha hadda nice honeymoon doe right? Didja lose ya vaginity asumpthin tss

After #100 with bass I was done.

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  • First day - looks like the O&J show is going to be a drag, they're just going to coast it until October..

  • Second day - look like the O&J show is going to be a blast, they're going to have solid guests until October!

That's how we are as fans right now - it's only as good as the last show, exactly like they said.

It also goes to show how good Opie really is at creating a good radio show. Anthony is great, but keep in mind that we still have two other greats in Opie and Jimmy.

First day - looks like the O&J show is going to be a drag, they're just going to coast it until October..

Second day - look like the O&J show is going to be a blast, they're going to have solid guests until October!

Lets be honest, that's how we've always been.

tons of places have solid guests, that's not what made O&A great.

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I agree, he's the best producer in the business.

Sam has been refreshingly silent since Anthony was fired. Let's hope it stays that way.

Sam should never come back on air. Those days are over. I feel good listening to jokes without that goddamn cunty dolphin laugh.

That was the only downside to today's show was hearing that stupid laugh more. :(

Maybe Ant was secretly backing Sam THE WHOLE TIME

HOLY SHIT

Submit to fan theories subreddit

It's the only reason I've been listening.

These past two days have been phenomenal radio. I'll miss Anthony, but I won't miss him come election time.

You apparently weren't a listener in 2005/6 when Jim was in California filming Lucky Louie because with Anthony gone they're doing exactly what they did when Jim was gone: have a strong guest join the show for almost the entire show and essentially be a guest co-host.

It was during the time that Jim was filming Lucky Louie that people like Bill Burr and Patrice emerged as superstars in the eyes of the fans.

When you look at it like that, people like Dan Soder would be smart to get as much air time right now as they can.

I dont think Bill Burr is famous because of O&A. Maybe it was quicker thanks to them, but he writes such killer material, he would make it without them easily.

yeah because if it was true bobby and vos would be in big shows and movies, bill hasnt had a bad special yet.

I'd like to see bobby and vos star in a jihadi beheading video.

Bill Burr's most famous stand-up moment (and at least where I first found out about him), "The Philly Takedown," was during an OandA comedy tour.

I knew Bill stuff before the philly takedown and before listening to O&A. the point is, his material is so good he would make it either way

But guiiiiiiissseeee, Sam is so entertaining!! He's so sarcastic and stuff!!! He just needs to get his big break!! He gets better everytime he's on mic!!!

You are right. He should get his own show. 2AM to 6 AM shift on Hits 1. Right up his alley.

When you say 'right up his alley' you mean his ass, right?

fuck her right in the pussy

I'm with you man, copying Rogan would be a good template for Opie and Jim to follow moving forward.

This is what I've been waiting for. I do want Ant back, but OAJ together seem to have lost their spark. Rogan's format (visual podcast) with OAJ + guest will prolong the life of the show

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it would be a reawakening of Opie & Anthony after shedding SXM, which we can all agree is needed

I used to love JRE, then I found O & A. Honestly, I cant be satisfied by any podcasts lately. Just hours and hours of old O&A for the better part of 3 years. All the Patrices, Burrs, Louie's, Colins....all of it.

I'm in the same boat but I also dig Bill Burr's MMP tremendously.

He's smart just doing one a week. Leave them wanting more type thing, like some people saying about Joe Rogan, same shit over and over. Personally I just listen to Joe once every week or 2 if it's a guest I might like.

I'll listen to joe if duncan trussell is on

I listen to a few podcasts, but yeah working and driving pretty much always involve listening to decade old o&a shows. I'm halfway through 06, so I got awhile before I have to worry about this whole firing nonsense.

i did that a year or two ago and started at 98 and got to 2008, i dont know how i got through alot of those early ones, some shows were great and i couldnt belive this kinda stuff was on radio, other shows you could tell they just wanted to get out.

Where can I find these archives? I would get such a kick out of listening to shows from 2001-2002, when I first discovered O and A.

I just got into the first days of free fm.... Ugh

I'll be completely honest and say I'm absolutely loving O&J. The first 3 episodes, at least.

The first one sucked

Revisionist history. Everybody hated the first show back and said it was like a funeral show. Now there's been 2 funny shows since, the first one is good now somehow.

I didnt hate the first show. I actually thought opie in particular did a really good job. He wasnt throwing out terribles lines and seemed genuine.

I'm torn. I want to stop giving SXM my money. I was thinking of dropping down to a music-only package just for my car, and getting rid of the online and all the other content. I can get my O&J highlights on YouTube and also subscribe to the AC show. But the music-only package drops some good stations (esp. the Grateful Dead Channel - yeah, fuck you haters).

But maybe it's worth hanging onto my subscription, I keep the music channels I like, and can listen to O&J or not.

I just really don't want to keep giving the assholes who run SXM any more of my money.

I don't blame Sam for Sam, I blame Opie. Opie's the one who should be in the straight man role, but his ego won't allow it, so he brings Sam in to be the mouthpiece for his awful pop culture ideas. That way the Opester gets to be one of the laid back cool kids, crackin' jokesssssss!

Opie should NEVER be the straight guy. He should be that cake-smashing, Mayor-killing, poker-chip throwing, Destroyer that everybody loves.

No doubt. But I'm talking about the other 99% of air time they have to fill when they're not doing stunts like that.

The only upside this week has been negligible Sam on the air. I've barely even heard him referenced. I like the direction they are going on that front.

yea i agree, but there will be days when there wont be anyone funny enough to be around, and sam will help then, but i do prefer this setting right now

Yeah I think so far the formula is pretty good. I think the days they can't get a guest or number of revolving guests in to keep the show occupied is the day they bring in interns, Erock, Sam etc. to get something going. Then would be the time to do like they used to and bring in production and make fun of it or rant and bitch about things.

I think they will be OK, interested to see if they can keep the momentum going though. Obviously there will be days it's just not as interesting - but I think if they keep it fresh it will be good.

No Sam equals no stupid assed pop culture talk. No constant Jay-z, wrestling, fringe network stars.

His awful cackling into the mic when he is not involved in the coversation, just to put his Flipper cackle on the air.

And you must be new OP, because guests is not what made this fucking show. It was the Opie and Anthony dynamic, it worked long before Norton, Fatboy Bawby, lame Voss, etc,

He'll be back. He's biding his time.

When they are forced to adapt to adverse situations they step up and shine. This isn't new for the show, it just feels like it is going to have to be permanent now that Anthony is gone.

I like Sam, go lay down.

No you go lay down on Sam's cawk asumpthin tsss ya fagit

Bahahaha, i fawkin walked inta dat one

Degrasse Tyson and Shane Smith lol

Why don't you liberal faggots just fuck off with your gay shit

Wasn't it enough to have Anthony fired, now you have to replace him with anti white pinkos

Lighten up, Francis

We've had one show that wasn't a eulogy.

It was so packed with comedians yesterday, we haven't had a show even similar to it since the Vos, Keith, Kevin Hart phoner. What we saw yesterday is not necessarily indicative of any show in the future. It was just a full room of comics, which we've had before but there are loooong droughts in between. Ant's absence does not imply that these droughts will somehow no longer exist.

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I think the droughts have more to do with the comics losing interest in being in the studio, because they're only allowed to plug once, and it's a major hassle to get into the building, from their comments.

I'm sure management has limited how many times they can have drop in guests, too. Gotta keep those hallways clear, you know, can't have comic scum wandering around.

What's happening is the circle of comic friends they have are showing support for the show, because Opie and Jimmy are clueless what to do next. They're helping out, it's what friends do. Ant will probably get the same for a while when he starts up.

I honestly think the higher ups have been limiting the amount of time their friends spend on air - even Louis has a hard out when he stops by. The last lewis Black appearance was so disappointing, he was there an hour, maybe? He used to hang the whole show. Remember Kevin Smith hanging so long they had to kick him out? No, I think the suits said "One segment per guest" so they could shoehorn as many Situation and Family and whatever network drek they could cram in there. Sirius has been slowly boiling the show into a typical network talkshow for a while now, and they were putting up with it.

it's shit radio without Ant

WE HEARD YOU

good

No it isn't. Even you don't believe that.

There's no way you're an O&A fan and not realize how great the last few shows have been.

Yesterday was good but honestly how many lines do you recall from Opie?

None. That's not what he's there for.

At some point, does Sirius ask themselves: why should we continue to pay a table-setter $3,000,000 per year? The O&A "brand" is dead.

Jimmy could set the fuckin' table, and with what's left over, they could hire two other funny dudes, like Quinn and Attell.

Sirius could get a lot more for their money in October.

It really isn't that simple.

It doesn't matter if it's vector calculus; it's the much better way to go.

You don't need a fuckin' abacus to see that Opie's not really worth anything on his own. Nobody's listening for Opie, and nobody would cancel if Opie wasn't there, as long as Jimmy was still there and the comedians kept coming in.

There's no downside to letting Opie go, and there's a tremendous upside.

I'm sure the suits at Sirius realize this, and will act accordingly.

I listened Monday for half an hour, that's it, haven't heard a second after that when it became clear that Opster has his excuse card ready. It's just not for me anymore, but I will sub to Ants podcast to vote with my $$$.

I miss Ant. I hear these shows and imagine how Ant could have pushed some of the exchanges to the next level, but they haven't been bad shows so far.

"You look like a dried up soccer player" "Yeah like obama right guys made me throw up?" cricket noise

There, simulated the experience. Happy now?

it would be a reawakening of Opie & Anthony after shedding SXM, which we can all agree is needed

tons of places have solid guests, that's not what made O&A great.

First day - looks like the O&J show is going to be a drag, they're just going to coast it until October..

Second day - look like the O&J show is going to be a blast, they're going to have solid guests until October!

Lets be honest, that's how we've always been.

The thing is, if you don't watch UFC at all, all this talk is basically like hearing a dull whine in the night air. It's just there. I don't expect him to cater to me personally, but other podcasts touch on other sports and move on. They don't run through match history, stats, data, fitness routines, methods, sport history, match predictions, etc. It's even when non UFC people are on as well, so it's hard to skip / pick when the talk could either be 5 minutes or there is a 1 hour Rogan monologue about something UFC related.

i did that a year or two ago and started at 98 and got to 2008, i dont know how i got through alot of those early ones, some shows were great and i couldnt belive this kinda stuff was on radio, other shows you could tell they just wanted to get out.

Yeah, I'd tune in and see this and go, "welp, guess I'll check back in an hour".

I agree, he's the best producer in the business.

I didnt hate the first show. I actually thought opie in particular did a really good job. He wasnt throwing out terribles lines and seemed genuine.