He's worked with Anthony for 20 years they're like an old married couple now. Everything they've ever done is tied in with on another. They even make sure they're paid the same. They've become wildly successful together making tons of money and have paved great careers for themselves. Give the guy a chance he's going through some tough shit. He even said he wasn't ready to go back without Anthony for at least a month but sxm forced there hands into coming back this week. I'll support him and the show even through the tough times. Funny the ones talking about how Opie and Jim should have loyalty and leave are the first ones to ditch them when they need support most. What was 20 years of laughs not good enough for some people?
Opie has my full attention - I'll continue to listen and see where the chips (whats that) fall.
That being said - I really didn't like the tone of the show today. Opie saying he hasn't talked to Ant about the future and the constant references to "Ant wants to work alone" made me feel awful.
I listened expecting a fiery rebuttal to the situation. I got a eulogy.
Holy fuck dude, they've been a radio team for 20 years. Jesus you can't let the guy get one fucking show to mourn the loss of Anthony?
What was wrong with the tone of the show today? Opie was being honest. Opie didn't just make up the fact that Ant is excited about doing his own thing. That is what Ant is excited about. Check the twitter posts.
Opie and Jim still have to do the show under contract until October. They can talk a little bit of shit but they couldn't have gone on the air and yelled about how much Sirius sucks. Ant even agrees that they have a job to do and he wouldn't want them to sabotage their own lives to stand up for his shitty predicament.
Just chill out with expectations. This was day 1 after 5,000 radio shows together. Of course it's not going to be perfect.
More than anything I wanted to see Opie come out swinging. He's talked soooo much shit about corporate idiots and people issuing stupid apologies. But when it happens to him he's a company man. And it seems like he doesn't even really care about Anthony. He kept mentioning he barely talked to him. If my radio partner of 20 years got fired, I'd be talking to him a lot, and I sure as hell would make the drive down to see him, even if he's a bit wild and I'm a family man now. It just seems like there is an unspoken rift between them, like Opie doesn't really like him. I suppose after 20 years thats fine. But damn.
For lack of a better way to say it, the guy is mourning. I did hear what you heard Opie say, but I also heard him talk about Ant in ways I've never heard him talk before, saying he loves him like a brother. To me, it sounded really sincere, and yeah, sad.
We'll see how this is by Wednesday or Thursday. There's no sense mourning forever - at some point he's gotta decide, "okay we're going to pick up and try something new, one way or another". I'm interested to see where it goes.
Lets face it, starting the opie and anthony show without anthony will always be too early. Jim can't really riff with Opie the way he riffed with Ant. :(
Opie's just putting a positive spin on it. I mean, he can't work with Ant right now, even if he wanted to. So, he's playing it like Damone from Fast Times would say: "wherever you are, that's the place to be."
He also alluded to how if they were to do a show together, they'd have to get some studio space in or near the city, etc. so it's not like he said he didn't want to do a show with him. He is just trying to give the "we're all ok" spin. And he did say Ant wants to try his own thing for a while which is not the same as forever. Does anyone doubt that this is not true? They've been doing the same show for a long time. It's probably a creative relief to have the ability to play around with a different format, different people. So there is probably a lot of truth in Opie's spin. Ant will probably have a good time with his new show, but I wouldn't count it out that they get back together in a few months once the SXM contract is over, and Ant's starting to get burned out on carrying the load himself on LFTC every day and they decide to get the band back together. It won't be 35 years.
"the constant references to "Ant wants to work alone" made me feel awful."
I feel you there. It's tough to figure out what's going on with him. Does he have to put it that way for the lawyers so they don't get sued for working on the new show while still at SXM or is Ant really happy to be free of Opie? It always seemed like even when Opie would try to pull rank as "the professional" on Ant in their few argumets Ant just wanted to calm him down and still be friends. Maybe that shit stuck in his craw? Some of Opie's political jabs seemed to really piss Ant off in more recent years though.Also: Opie's married with kids and Ant wants to do a show where he's making teenagers do dirty shit by his pool. Opie (or his wife) might not want to be involved with that kind of shit anymore.
It sounded like Opie was kinda offended that Ant never asked him to go podcast after the show. "Seems like he wants to go off on his own, do his own thing" When Brother Joe kept saying, "No! He would love you to be apart of this!" and Opie just kinda shrugging it off.
They just didn't talk to each other, so Ant is pumped up to do some new wild shit, but Opie feels he didn't get invited to the big dance so he is butt-hurt. I do believe Ant would love to continue something with O&A with Jim, they just have to actually talk to one another
It's strange that while Ant is the one who went through the controversy, his future prospects seem brighter than Opie's. I can totally see Ant becoming a funny right leaning political commentary guy, which I think is a great move for him to transition to as he gets older. Opie seems to lack that type of ambition to go out and make it on his own. He seems content to call it a career if he doesn't have Ant to lean on.
Good point on the contradiction between Opie's statements and Brother Joe's call. I think he must just be putting on a show for the lawyers with that then. SXM wouldn't want to pay them to effectively promote cutting out SXM.
Jimmy said to management's credit, they didn't give them any restrictions on what they could or could not talk about today.
I thought Opie made it pretty clear today he doesn't want to do an O&A show out of Ant's basement, so that's not a dance he even wants to go to. He said he'll do a podcast but it's gotta be done from the city to make it viable which I agree with. I don't see this as him putting a show on for the lawyers, he wouldn't have to lie about stuff for that.
I was bothered by the fact that he kept saying Ant wants to work alone. Ant has made it clear he wants them to be part of what he's doing. Opie is either saying this so he can protect himself from a breach of contract issue or he's laying the groundwork for an defense when he signs with SXM again in October. I hope it's the former and there are plans in place to continue as a team after the contract is up.
As dumb as everyone thinks Opie is, he's not retarded. "Laying the groundwork for an (sic) defense when he signs with SXM again" doesn't really do much when Anthony can just say "No, I never said that. I've wanted Jim and Opie to join me."
I kinda got sick of Opie's moping as well, if this is how it's going to be til October there's no way I'll be able to stand the show. With Ant gone, Opie has to take the reigns with confidence, be an alpha, but he's coming off as a beta.
What's apparent to me is Ant is someone with a vision and goals for himself, even before this mess happened that was clear, Opie just wants to ride along in the passenger seat it seems.
As much as Ant brought to the show, Opie has a very good point. Do you think Rich, Bobby or Ricky Gervais would drive to LI to do his show? I think Ant's sadly mistaken.
YES, YES, WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT GERVAIS , the people that are funny would, I don't need celeb interviews that opster has a hard on for, for that I got TMZ and other horseshit
being funny does not necessarily mean that comics would want to travel to nearly the middle of Long Island. In midday traffic that is a TWO HOUR round trip.
I feel the worst for Op out of the three. Ant's excited and going out on his own. Jim's always got comedy to do and hopefully this Vice thing works. Op's trying to figure out where to go after 20 years of working with someone. The dynamic is gone, a large amount of talent and hilarity is gone.
Let's be completely honest. Even if they could get out of their contracts, they wouldn't. Could you imagine making that salary one day and then having it just be gone the next? Only a drunk dumb fuck like Anthony could view that as a positive thing.
Maybe Jimmy will leave in October if he can figure out a way to make it work but Opie will be at Sirius until security drags him kicking and screaming from the building. It's way too much easy money.
I also feel bad for Opie. He did not put the company, listeners, etc. in this position. I like how everyone #standswithant, but he (IMO) purposely stirred the bee-hive to be freed of his contract.
Because of Opie, Jim, and Ronnie B. I am not cancelling Sirius/XM ... unlike many of the knuckle draggers out there who knee jerk cancelled, I listen to much more than just O&A. It still provides enough entertainment for me. I'm sure most feel that way, but are unwilling to admit.
The contract has 3 months left to it and you think Ant tried to get out of it without having his full time LFTC show up and ready to go? No way. And because people chose to at least show how pissed off at the company that broke up a show they loved they are knuckle draggers? Fuck you dude.
good for you, you go ahead and continue to support a shit company that made a shitty decision, I vote with my money so I cancelled. And yes, I actually miss some music channels, but fuck it, that company isn't worth my cash.
I wish the best for OwithJ but I have no faith in SXM on giving them a chance. We're not knuckle draggers for not wanting to pay the company that split up the show. You can continue to pay if you want but I don't think that helps the current show.
He's in an impossible situation. I just have no idea how they could have structured their contracts in a way that didn't give either of them an out if the other was fired.
Seems like contracts 1-0-1 for a radio partnership.
With that said - Opie needs to re-invent himself late in his career, and that's a difficult thing to do for anyone regardless of your profession. Ant has been testing the waters of his own show for a few years. Opie doesn't need to work anymore, but it seems like he's stuck where he has to continue working at his day job, while trying to figure out what's next. Go back to traditional radio? Not a chance. Speak to Ant about re-launching a new type of show? Maybe - but doubtful. Start his own podcast? Won't happen - too much work, and he's not motivated to launch his own brand. Stay at Sirius after October? That seems like the most-likely option in my opinion. Or maybe just sell more Instagrams and t-shirts.
all opie has to say is we have to be here until October, then we'll try to get the show together somehow/somewhere, end of story... that's if he wants to which I doubt at this point.
And Opie is saying that Ant may not want to do that either. If Ant can get a measly 10,000 people to subscribe for 6.99 a month he will gross $838,800.00 a year. Maybe it's not $2mil, but that is the low end of subscriptions. Plus, live reads and revenue from merchandise. He also benefits from not commuting to NYC 5 days a week. He will be working 4 days a week, 2 hours a day. If after all is said and done he nets $400,000 a year. He is still making 5x most fans.
Opie probably has the better of around 20 mil in the bank. When he says he doesn't have to work he's telling the truth. Opie did do radio before Ant. Hardly anyone cared but he knows what he's doing. I doubt he's plotting this major plan to get another contract.
I don't think he's trying to please the lawyers or SXM. I think you're right about Ant and the fans though. He might know he's walking on egg shells with the lawyers and the company, but I don't think they'll be going past October, so fuck it, do some honest radio with what you've got left.
Yeah I was pissed at Ope yesterday. I think I'm just pissed and in shock. The boys know better than me how to play things out. I'm just afraid the show is over and it sucks.
Ant will do his show for a while. Op will be on Sirius until October or until he gets arrested for attacking Stern then he'll retire to family life and corny videos. Then one day in the future they'll probably do one last get together show at Ant's house, then it will be over. This is the way the world ends: Not with a bang but a whimper.
I'll give him a week to make it entertaining. It's a radio show, albeit a show that has given me lots of laughs. When it stops doing that, which was its purpose in my listening, it isn't an interest of mine anymore.
I think he should get his balls busted for this rather than be cut some slack, especially since he "doesn't need to work". Why's he trying to please anybody, then?
because he's full of shit
He should come clean, take a stand, and move on. He knows what he's trying to do; get re-signed by Sirius. That's the only thing on his mind right now. But he's going through this pussy-cunt song and dance of vagueness and confusion, lest he appear like less than a bro to Anthony, and the show loses even more fans.
Let's face it: his career is already blown to fuck. He's going nowhere without a funny person to carry him.
And I'm not advocating that, anyway. All I'm saying is he should embrace the fact that he's looking for another Sirius contract, rather than kind of half-pretend he isn't, and trying to be everything to everybody.
Especially since he's all about honesty, "real radio", blah, blah, blah...
I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, but i do think that expecting a guy to have his future planned out a week after his 20-year gig was blown up is asking a little too much. It's all speculation at this point.
As for funny people, there are tons of those types out there, and I'm sure Opie has made friends with at least a few of them. Would it be the same? Probably not. Just saying that he's got options, and not all of them are horrible.
Figuring out how to reunite and keep his brand alive. Given that his best option is his least likely, maybe resigning with Sirius, keeping Jim, and adding another comedian on third mic. Someone like Soder. Then beg them to allow it to be like the comic hangout it used to be. Money talks, so he'll go where he can still rake it in
By "move on" I don't mean "walk away from Sirius"; I mean walk away from trying to sustain the illusion that he's doing anything but angling for a new contract from Sirius.
He has a point. How many celebrity guests are going to go that far out of their way to do a niche Internet show? They'd be lucky to get their regular guests to go out there.
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39 [deleted] 2014-07-15
He's worked with Anthony for 20 years they're like an old married couple now. Everything they've ever done is tied in with on another. They even make sure they're paid the same. They've become wildly successful together making tons of money and have paved great careers for themselves. Give the guy a chance he's going through some tough shit. He even said he wasn't ready to go back without Anthony for at least a month but sxm forced there hands into coming back this week. I'll support him and the show even through the tough times. Funny the ones talking about how Opie and Jim should have loyalty and leave are the first ones to ditch them when they need support most. What was 20 years of laughs not good enough for some people?
23 _TheConsumer_ 2014-07-15
Opie has my full attention - I'll continue to listen and see where the chips (whats that) fall.
That being said - I really didn't like the tone of the show today. Opie saying he hasn't talked to Ant about the future and the constant references to "Ant wants to work alone" made me feel awful.
I listened expecting a fiery rebuttal to the situation. I got a eulogy.
47 [deleted] 2014-07-15
Holy fuck dude, they've been a radio team for 20 years. Jesus you can't let the guy get one fucking show to mourn the loss of Anthony?
What was wrong with the tone of the show today? Opie was being honest. Opie didn't just make up the fact that Ant is excited about doing his own thing. That is what Ant is excited about. Check the twitter posts.
Opie and Jim still have to do the show under contract until October. They can talk a little bit of shit but they couldn't have gone on the air and yelled about how much Sirius sucks. Ant even agrees that they have a job to do and he wouldn't want them to sabotage their own lives to stand up for his shitty predicament.
Just chill out with expectations. This was day 1 after 5,000 radio shows together. Of course it's not going to be perfect.
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-12 kimchifart 2014-07-15
See I'm not sure he was being that honest...he seems to be making out that ant doesn't want them to work together...
-16 oa123 2014-07-15
More than anything I wanted to see Opie come out swinging. He's talked soooo much shit about corporate idiots and people issuing stupid apologies. But when it happens to him he's a company man. And it seems like he doesn't even really care about Anthony. He kept mentioning he barely talked to him. If my radio partner of 20 years got fired, I'd be talking to him a lot, and I sure as hell would make the drive down to see him, even if he's a bit wild and I'm a family man now. It just seems like there is an unspoken rift between them, like Opie doesn't really like him. I suppose after 20 years thats fine. But damn.
2 [deleted] 2014-07-15
What are you, president and CEO of missedyourpoint.com?
27 GleepGlorpFloopdedoo 2014-07-15
For lack of a better way to say it, the guy is mourning. I did hear what you heard Opie say, but I also heard him talk about Ant in ways I've never heard him talk before, saying he loves him like a brother. To me, it sounded really sincere, and yeah, sad.
We'll see how this is by Wednesday or Thursday. There's no sense mourning forever - at some point he's gotta decide, "okay we're going to pick up and try something new, one way or another". I'm interested to see where it goes.
10 rawkgawd 2014-07-15
Yeah...he was a wreck. He did about as good a job as you could expect given the circumstances.
7 txpandorasbox 2014-07-15
He even mentioned at some point that he thought starting this week was too early.
5 WoopEmGangbangStyle 2014-07-15
Lets face it, starting the opie and anthony show without anthony will always be too early. Jim can't really riff with Opie the way he riffed with Ant. :(
-10 devilsadvocate33 2014-07-15
Yesterday, Jimmy looked like a dog whos owner left him in front of the store a little too long.
It was really, really sad.
And it can't help matters that he's got to look across at Opie, a dude Jimmy would give up 20 of to have Anthony back in the studio.
It must be like when the other Beatles heard about John, and the fact that Yoko was ok.
-10 kimchifart 2014-07-15
Loves him like a brother but hasn't had a face to face with him yet...
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15 Ojisan1 2014-07-15
Opie's just putting a positive spin on it. I mean, he can't work with Ant right now, even if he wanted to. So, he's playing it like Damone from Fast Times would say: "wherever you are, that's the place to be."
He also alluded to how if they were to do a show together, they'd have to get some studio space in or near the city, etc. so it's not like he said he didn't want to do a show with him. He is just trying to give the "we're all ok" spin. And he did say Ant wants to try his own thing for a while which is not the same as forever. Does anyone doubt that this is not true? They've been doing the same show for a long time. It's probably a creative relief to have the ability to play around with a different format, different people. So there is probably a lot of truth in Opie's spin. Ant will probably have a good time with his new show, but I wouldn't count it out that they get back together in a few months once the SXM contract is over, and Ant's starting to get burned out on carrying the load himself on LFTC every day and they decide to get the band back together. It won't be 35 years.
4 rawkgawd 2014-07-15
"the constant references to "Ant wants to work alone" made me feel awful."
I feel you there. It's tough to figure out what's going on with him. Does he have to put it that way for the lawyers so they don't get sued for working on the new show while still at SXM or is Ant really happy to be free of Opie? It always seemed like even when Opie would try to pull rank as "the professional" on Ant in their few argumets Ant just wanted to calm him down and still be friends. Maybe that shit stuck in his craw? Some of Opie's political jabs seemed to really piss Ant off in more recent years though.Also: Opie's married with kids and Ant wants to do a show where he's making teenagers do dirty shit by his pool. Opie (or his wife) might not want to be involved with that kind of shit anymore.
-5 Lasagna_Hat 2014-07-15
It sounded like Opie was kinda offended that Ant never asked him to go podcast after the show. "Seems like he wants to go off on his own, do his own thing" When Brother Joe kept saying, "No! He would love you to be apart of this!" and Opie just kinda shrugging it off.
They just didn't talk to each other, so Ant is pumped up to do some new wild shit, but Opie feels he didn't get invited to the big dance so he is butt-hurt. I do believe Ant would love to continue something with O&A with Jim, they just have to actually talk to one another
3 serget 2014-07-15
It's strange that while Ant is the one who went through the controversy, his future prospects seem brighter than Opie's. I can totally see Ant becoming a funny right leaning political commentary guy, which I think is a great move for him to transition to as he gets older. Opie seems to lack that type of ambition to go out and make it on his own. He seems content to call it a career if he doesn't have Ant to lean on.
1 rawkgawd 2014-07-15
He kind of gave the impression he might be thinking about just retiring. He did post that cartoon of a wolf in sheeps clothing though...
1 rawkgawd 2014-07-15
Good point on the contradiction between Opie's statements and Brother Joe's call. I think he must just be putting on a show for the lawyers with that then. SXM wouldn't want to pay them to effectively promote cutting out SXM.
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1 serget 2014-07-15
Jimmy said to management's credit, they didn't give them any restrictions on what they could or could not talk about today.
I thought Opie made it pretty clear today he doesn't want to do an O&A show out of Ant's basement, so that's not a dance he even wants to go to. He said he'll do a podcast but it's gotta be done from the city to make it viable which I agree with. I don't see this as him putting a show on for the lawyers, he wouldn't have to lie about stuff for that.
3 Ptone79 2014-07-15
I was bothered by the fact that he kept saying Ant wants to work alone. Ant has made it clear he wants them to be part of what he's doing. Opie is either saying this so he can protect himself from a breach of contract issue or he's laying the groundwork for an defense when he signs with SXM again in October. I hope it's the former and there are plans in place to continue as a team after the contract is up.
2 telemecanique 2014-07-15
exactly this, it's my impression too that opie doesn't want to go on elsewhere, he's too comfy as-is , ant would love to get back together.
2 xBrianSmithx 2014-07-15
Ant saying that he would like to have Opie and Jim on his podcast does not exactly mean that he wants them to be on his show everyday
1 alrighthamilton 2014-07-15
As dumb as everyone thinks Opie is, he's not retarded. "Laying the groundwork for an (sic) defense when he signs with SXM again" doesn't really do much when Anthony can just say "No, I never said that. I've wanted Jim and Opie to join me."
2 wigglin_harry 2014-07-15
I feel like the whole "ant wants to work alone" biz is just for legal reasons. Perhaps a no compete clause or something.
I don't know, Opie repeated it so much that it just felt like them covering their asses.
-14 serget 2014-07-15
I kinda got sick of Opie's moping as well, if this is how it's going to be til October there's no way I'll be able to stand the show. With Ant gone, Opie has to take the reigns with confidence, be an alpha, but he's coming off as a beta.
What's apparent to me is Ant is someone with a vision and goals for himself, even before this mess happened that was clear, Opie just wants to ride along in the passenger seat it seems.
5 GleepGlorpFloopdedoo 2014-07-15
Jesus christ, give the guy a fucking break. SiriusXM just summarily killed a show he's spent 20 years building with Ant.
Of course Ant has a vision, he has to. He has no job and an expensive lifestyle to pay for.
10 shameofyou 2014-07-15
Ned Stark tried something similar, all noble n shit, cadaverous Ichabod Crane mafucker.
20 Mrcoxie 2014-07-15
You know what dude? You got your dwarfs you got your dragons. They're all smarmy dude
http://i.imgur.com/L8qoZKJ.jpg
16 ToothGnasher 2014-07-15
Duuuuude you got your secret passageways everywhere and you can keep your eye on the whole castle duuuude.
10 Unshavenhelga 2014-07-15
As much as Ant brought to the show, Opie has a very good point. Do you think Rich, Bobby or Ricky Gervais would drive to LI to do his show? I think Ant's sadly mistaken.
2 cyberslick188 2014-07-15
Bobby and Vos absolutely would.
0 humanmeat 2014-07-15
Ant didn't say LI or imply so, he's not mistaken, you are.
Ant gets how contracts work.
-6 telemecanique 2014-07-15
YES, YES, WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT GERVAIS , the people that are funny would, I don't need celeb interviews that opster has a hard on for, for that I got TMZ and other horseshit
3 xBrianSmithx 2014-07-15
being funny does not necessarily mean that comics would want to travel to nearly the middle of Long Island. In midday traffic that is a TWO HOUR round trip.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/The+Comedy+Cellar,+117+Macdougal+St,+New+York,+NY+10012/Roslyn+Heights,+NY/@40.7547521,-74.2388922,9z/data=!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x89c2599180d8339b:0xd2c25939c1d48c83!2m2!1d-74.000574!2d40.730219!1m5!1m1!1s0x89c287cc5bb78c35:0x56ff96f30159447b!2m2!1d-73.6473511!2d40.7887117
0 rahtin 2014-07-15
And a trip from the airport to SXM during rush hour takes how long?
2 WiretapStudios 2014-07-15
They can do other press in the building and in buildings down the street. Not really the case in LI.
1 xBrianSmithx 2014-07-15
Less time than it takes to get to Roslyn Heights
8 vbfronkis 2014-07-15
I feel the worst for Op out of the three. Ant's excited and going out on his own. Jim's always got comedy to do and hopefully this Vice thing works. Op's trying to figure out where to go after 20 years of working with someone. The dynamic is gone, a large amount of talent and hilarity is gone.
Feels, Opster.
3 xBrianSmithx 2014-07-15
great show today though.
5 HeyBuddays 2014-07-15
Let's be completely honest. Even if they could get out of their contracts, they wouldn't. Could you imagine making that salary one day and then having it just be gone the next? Only a drunk dumb fuck like Anthony could view that as a positive thing.
Maybe Jimmy will leave in October if he can figure out a way to make it work but Opie will be at Sirius until security drags him kicking and screaming from the building. It's way too much easy money.
4 Hard_Fiskur 2014-07-15
I also feel bad for Opie. He did not put the company, listeners, etc. in this position. I like how everyone #standswithant, but he (IMO) purposely stirred the bee-hive to be freed of his contract.
Because of Opie, Jim, and Ronnie B. I am not cancelling Sirius/XM ... unlike many of the knuckle draggers out there who knee jerk cancelled, I listen to much more than just O&A. It still provides enough entertainment for me. I'm sure most feel that way, but are unwilling to admit.
1 fattypigfatty 2014-07-15
The contract has 3 months left to it and you think Ant tried to get out of it without having his full time LFTC show up and ready to go? No way. And because people chose to at least show how pissed off at the company that broke up a show they loved they are knuckle draggers? Fuck you dude.
-1 telemecanique 2014-07-15
good for you, you go ahead and continue to support a shit company that made a shitty decision, I vote with my money so I cancelled. And yes, I actually miss some music channels, but fuck it, that company isn't worth my cash.
-1 Ptone79 2014-07-15
I wish the best for OwithJ but I have no faith in SXM on giving them a chance. We're not knuckle draggers for not wanting to pay the company that split up the show. You can continue to pay if you want but I don't think that helps the current show.
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3 Humble_is_great 2014-07-15
At least he made it abundantly clear yesterday that he hasn't talked podcasting to ant since the firing
2 phlammo 2014-07-15
He's in an impossible situation. I just have no idea how they could have structured their contracts in a way that didn't give either of them an out if the other was fired.
Seems like contracts 1-0-1 for a radio partnership.
With that said - Opie needs to re-invent himself late in his career, and that's a difficult thing to do for anyone regardless of your profession. Ant has been testing the waters of his own show for a few years. Opie doesn't need to work anymore, but it seems like he's stuck where he has to continue working at his day job, while trying to figure out what's next. Go back to traditional radio? Not a chance. Speak to Ant about re-launching a new type of show? Maybe - but doubtful. Start his own podcast? Won't happen - too much work, and he's not motivated to launch his own brand. Stay at Sirius after October? That seems like the most-likely option in my opinion. Or maybe just sell more Instagrams and t-shirts.
1 telemecanique 2014-07-15
all opie has to say is we have to be here until October, then we'll try to get the show together somehow/somewhere, end of story... that's if he wants to which I doubt at this point.
1 xBrianSmithx 2014-07-15
And Opie is saying that Ant may not want to do that either. If Ant can get a measly 10,000 people to subscribe for 6.99 a month he will gross $838,800.00 a year. Maybe it's not $2mil, but that is the low end of subscriptions. Plus, live reads and revenue from merchandise. He also benefits from not commuting to NYC 5 days a week. He will be working 4 days a week, 2 hours a day. If after all is said and done he nets $400,000 a year. He is still making 5x most fans.
2 BruceMittman 2014-07-15
Opie probably has the better of around 20 mil in the bank. When he says he doesn't have to work he's telling the truth. Opie did do radio before Ant. Hardly anyone cared but he knows what he's doing. I doubt he's plotting this major plan to get another contract.
2 ucfgavin 2014-07-15
I don't think he's trying to please the lawyers or SXM. I think you're right about Ant and the fans though. He might know he's walking on egg shells with the lawyers and the company, but I don't think they'll be going past October, so fuck it, do some honest radio with what you've got left.
2 marsgamingchannel 2014-07-15
Yeah I was pissed at Ope yesterday. I think I'm just pissed and in shock. The boys know better than me how to play things out. I'm just afraid the show is over and it sucks.
1 BruceMittman 2014-07-15
Ant will do his show for a while. Op will be on Sirius until October or until he gets arrested for attacking Stern then he'll retire to family life and corny videos. Then one day in the future they'll probably do one last get together show at Ant's house, then it will be over. This is the way the world ends: Not with a bang but a whimper.
0 JMueller2012 2014-07-15
"Every dragon has it's secrets, I'll show them all to you!!!"
0 rahtin 2014-07-15
Bullshit. He's never cared about the fans. That's why his only bit for the last 5 years has been to annoy people.
-4 j_j_jaded 2014-07-15
I'll give him a week to make it entertaining. It's a radio show, albeit a show that has given me lots of laughs. When it stops doing that, which was its purpose in my listening, it isn't an interest of mine anymore.
Hope Ope and Jim can make it happen.
-4 telemecanique 2014-07-15
todays show sucked, I'm pretty annoyed at the way opie is treating this
2 xBrianSmithx 2014-07-15
did you listen to the same show I did today?
-6 kimchifart 2014-07-15
Im afraid he might want to find some balls and make a decision.
-9 devilsadvocate33 2014-07-15
I think he should get his balls busted for this rather than be cut some slack, especially since he "doesn't need to work". Why's he trying to please anybody, then?
because he's full of shit
He should come clean, take a stand, and move on. He knows what he's trying to do; get re-signed by Sirius. That's the only thing on his mind right now. But he's going through this pussy-cunt song and dance of vagueness and confusion, lest he appear like less than a bro to Anthony, and the show loses even more fans.
2 catclops13 2014-07-15
right. he should totally blow up his career and decades of work because DEVILSADVOCATE33 thinks he's full of shit.
-3 devilsadvocate33 2014-07-15
Let's face it: his career is already blown to fuck. He's going nowhere without a funny person to carry him.
And I'm not advocating that, anyway. All I'm saying is he should embrace the fact that he's looking for another Sirius contract, rather than kind of half-pretend he isn't, and trying to be everything to everybody.
Especially since he's all about honesty, "real radio", blah, blah, blah...
2 catclops13 2014-07-15
I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, but i do think that expecting a guy to have his future planned out a week after his 20-year gig was blown up is asking a little too much. It's all speculation at this point. As for funny people, there are tons of those types out there, and I'm sure Opie has made friends with at least a few of them. Would it be the same? Probably not. Just saying that he's got options, and not all of them are horrible.
1 devilsadvocate33 2014-07-15
What do you think Opie's best-case scenario is?
1 catclops13 2014-07-15
Figuring out how to reunite and keep his brand alive. Given that his best option is his least likely, maybe resigning with Sirius, keeping Jim, and adding another comedian on third mic. Someone like Soder. Then beg them to allow it to be like the comic hangout it used to be. Money talks, so he'll go where he can still rake it in
2 HeyBuddays 2014-07-15
He loves doing radio and it's a lot of guaranteed money to walk away from.
0 devilsadvocate33 2014-07-15
By "move on" I don't mean "walk away from Sirius"; I mean walk away from trying to sustain the illusion that he's doing anything but angling for a new contract from Sirius.
-25 niggerfaggotrapejoke 2014-07-15
can't.
he won't make the drive to long island to podcast with his partner of 20 years. fuck him.
6 gsbird1065 2014-07-15
Why should he?
4 carbonxe 2014-07-15
He has a point. How many celebrity guests are going to go that far out of their way to do a niche Internet show? They'd be lucky to get their regular guests to go out there.
5 GleepGlorpFloopdedoo 2014-07-15
Jesus christ, give the guy a fucking break. SiriusXM just summarily killed a show he's spent 20 years building with Ant.
Of course Ant has a vision, he has to. He has no job and an expensive lifestyle to pay for.
0 rahtin 2014-07-15
And a trip from the airport to SXM during rush hour takes how long?